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Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale - Epic Brewing Company

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Ratings: 348
Reviews: 87
rAvg: 4.03
pDev: 9.43%
Wants: 28
Gots: 55 | FT: 6
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 01-28-2012

Epic Brewing Company’s latest barrel-aged beer brings something new—wild yeast. This brew is a collaboration ale with Crooked Stave Artisan Brewing of Fort Collins, Colorado. Chad Yakobson, brewmaster/owner of Crooked Stave, is well known for his skill and knowledge in the brewing of sour and Brettanomyces driven beers. The beer was brewed at Epic by the two brewers. Kevin Crompton, Epic’s brewmaster, and Chad spent several weeks working on the recipe and selecting the proper Brett strains and barrels for the beer to morph from a golden Sasion into a Saison-Brett Golden Ale.
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Ratings: 348 | Reviews: 87
Photo of brureview
3.84/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured a light golden color with one finger in a tulip glass.

Aroma: very Brett forward. Almost like a vinegar aroma.

The taste is a good balance between the strong Brett character and the wine- barrel. The Brett is a bit overwhelming, with undertones of wine in the flavor.

Overall: a very good beer. I prefer Boulevard Saison Brett and Seizoen Bretta -from Logsdon Farms. They were not aged in Wine barrels ( to my knowledge) so the Brett character works well in those beers.

I am questioning whether a Brett Saison does well aged in wine barrels. Perhaps the taste is almost towards a vinegar type of taste.

Overall, though, a very good beer which will appeal to a certain tastes. If you are an over the top Brett fan, you will greatly enjoy this beer.

Photo of pat61
4.59/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours hazy straw gold with a 1” white foam collar that descends to ¼” and leaves light lace.
S: Barnyard nose with over ripe fruit, some wine notes, citrus, and a faint banana.
T: A funky, sour fruity palate with spicy herbal notes, lemon, some orange hints, a dash of pepper and traces of oak with a dry, tart finish.
M: the beer has the distinctive Brett texture – refreshing, very fine soft carbonation, medium light body.
O: This is a refreshing saison with a big Brett and wine character.

Photo of spacecake9
3.94/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a clear golden color, very limited head.
S - Aroma is yeasty with lemon.
T - Flavor is yeast, just a little sour, others suggest alcohol in the finish but I do not. almost champagne like.
M - As expected, crisp, dry and thin with a lot of carbonation.
O - I'm not an expert on Saisons but this one seems a little different. Perhaps it's the Brett, or the wine barrel aging. I agree it's good cold and it was so good I never really let it warm up. This is not a sour beer, it's a farmhouse ale and if you enjoy that style you should give this a try. Glad I did.

Photo of Floydster
3.71/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

22 ounce bottle

Appearance is a clear golden yellow, small white head, minimal retention, and no lacing

Smell is tangelo, grapefruit, and oranges, a bit of vinegar, straw, Belgian yeast, and strawberries

Taste is very similar to the aroma, brettanomyces and other wild yeast up front with sharp sourness for a saison, sweetens up as it warms, too boozy in the finish towards the end, was much better at its coldest with the first few sips

Mouthfeel is prickly with lots of carbonation, very thin but I think that helps lighten it up because it is borderline boozy once it warms, not much body

Overall was a nice and complex saison with nice citrus notes, a hint of berries, and some straw, it would have been a lot more enjoyable had it been a few percent lower in alcohol

Photo of samshaw
3.92/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: Very clear, light goldenrod with moderate white head and suds. Particularly thin.

S: Moderate sour with light fruit akin to orange.

T: Medium wild yeast dominates the palate with sourness, leaving just a hint of sweet. Moderate alcohol flavor uncovered on the aftertaste.

M: Very thin and crisp.

O: Refreshing and light beer that goes down easily.

Photo of ThisWangsChung
3.38/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Brief write-up. The nose doesn't do a good job of expressing detailed Brett notes (instead, it's faintly offensive), but the flavor profile works better. It's vaguely tart at first, with a nicely complex finish. It's a bit sweet, but it's 9.1%. A classic example of a beer that smells better than it tastes.

3.38/5: Lame nose, impressive taste

Photo of AshburnWineShop
2.77/5  rDev -31.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

Pour out of 22 oz bottle. I though the color for a saison was very nice, honey in color.

Smelled of soap box, floral..Acacia and resin.

Taste was hard to wrap my head around. Not tart but honey and flowers come to mind.

Over all - it didn't taste appealing to me.

Photo of cubs943
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I thought this beer was pretty good.

Photo of cjgiant
4.08/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Bottle release #6:
I've had this previously and really enjoyed it. Finally a chance to review it formally...

Pours a crystal clear golden - as the description indicates. Head is fluffy, white, and sticks around. Decent thin coverage, medium thick edge, and good lacing.

Nose is more fruity than I expected, but the Brett funkiness shares the nose. Poached pear, something I want to say is nectarine or not fully ripe plum, then the aforementioned Brett funk, and a distinct but subtle light wood note.

The taste starts nicely as the nose did, fruity and a lot more like apple than the fruits I got in the nose. There is a light burn that reminds me this isn't a light ABV beer. The Brett seems to blend more with the wood notes in the taste, yielding in the end to a mute tartness that is enjoyable. The carbonation plays well early but seems to fade faster than is like.

This is one of those beers that, for me is greater than the sum of its parts. Definitely a must purchase when available to me.

Photo of BrownAleMale
2.93/5  rDev -27.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Might as well be white wine. Barrel aging was over done and not my thing!

Photo of GarthDanielson
4.24/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Release #7. Poured from a bomber into a snifter, the beer is a hazy, golden coloring with a wispy, sparse surface coating of head. Aromas of tart and sour white grape must forward, toasted grains, granny smith apple, woody and earthy tones, and some subtle tart berry notes. Smells pretty balanced. Flavors are toasted grains forward, followed by a tart white grape, pear, granny smith, chardonnay wine, and woody notes. Smooth bodied, with a dry, lingering finish, allowing the tart and slightly sour fruit blend in the aftertaste plenty of time to flex their muscles. Good beer!

Photo of GabeBoise
4.5/5  rDev +11.7%

One of the nicest brett beers I've tried. Vinous tart nose with a strong but not harsh brett flavor. More on the fruity and lemony side with a juicy slightly sweet finish.

Photo of Benish
4.08/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2014 batch.

Appearance: hay in color. Not much head retention after pouring.

Smell: wine barrels almost instantly. It had that vinous and vinegary aroma. Also some characteristic horsy aroma of Brett.

Taste: just from the beginning the wine comes in, very obnoxiously. Its like both the wine and beer counterpart is screaming for attention. There really is no winner, a lot of wine character shining in the beer. The beer is sweet and tart though out. It's hard to pick up the style of this beer as it seems to be masked by the wine barrels.

Mouthfeel: light to medium bodied. Very tart throughout.

Overall: it's a very good beer. I think a little less barrel-aged treatment would have done this beer better.

Photo of desertcom1
3.75/5  rDev -6.9%

I purchased this right from the Epic brewery in Salt Lake City on 11-23-14. This was labeled as release #5, 8.9% ABV.
It poured a very light straw color with low carbonation and a medium to low foam head. The taste reminded me of a tart fruity, cidery, yeasty, musty wine. The carbonation seemed to be a little flat. I noticed some of the previous raters mentioned high carbonation, perhaps I got a flat batch or Epic revised its carbonation methods.

Photo of Chico1985
4.18/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Cam for sharing this bomber last night. This was labeled as Release #4 / 9.1% ABV.

Appearance - This pours a light straw yellow with a white head. Retention is great, some lace left too.

Smell - Good brett and wine presence brings to mind flavors of lemon lime, floral, tart grapes, oak, light funk and some mead-like sweetness. Pretty aromatic, perfumey.

Taste - A little more tartness here, the wine barrel also takes over a bit. Mix of tart+sweet wine grapes, earthy farm yeast, bretty funky fruit, oak barrel.

Mouthfeel - Zesty carbonation, decent body, seems a little on the boozy side but it may be just wine. Very dry finish.

Overall - The wine barrel brings some great flavors, also overtakes the rest of the beer a bit but a pretty nice and unique mix of wine/brett/saison flavors.

Photo of cbutova
3.8/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A- Bomber split for a tasting pours with a slightly hazy golden body. A white head builds to over one finger with a frothy consistency and pretty good retention. Medium ring leaves a huge sheet at first with spots and drizzle.

S- Quite Brett ridden here with a funky fruity mix bringing notes of barnyard, must, big vinous fruits from the barrels, white grapes, yeast spice and straw.

T- Wine really breaks out to the forefront here with semi sweet white grapes and apple coming to mind. Musty barnyard, straw and cherry pits round it out with a Belgian yeast spice and slight oak. A lot of wine, very distinct.

MF- Medium bodied with a texture between creamy and foamy, smooth. Carbonation is pretty high with a vinous tart finish. Bitterness grips the palate somehow seems dry and sweet at the same time.

Wine really shows up massive with time and grapes dominate with a nice Brett Saison character underneath. I like parts of this but I think having more than half of the bomber would be fatiguing due to the wine domination. This was a fairly tough beer to rate for me, at times I loved it and at times I thought there was flavor clashing. Would I have it again, most likely.

Photo of zander4dawin
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%

A juicy lemon grass, tropic fruit flavored sasion, with little dryness. A light frunky bret note on the finish.

Photo of TreyIsWilson
3.97/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A - Pours a golden yellow with a two-finger foamy white head. The head dissapates quickly leaving lots of spotty lacing.

S - Aromas of lemon, hay, and Brett funkiness.

T - The flavors follow the aroma: green apples, lemon, brett funkiness, and white wine. The finish has a light alcohol burn.

M - Light bodied with high carbonation. Mouthfeel is very crisp with a dry finish.

O - This is a dangerously drinkable beer at 9.3%. Very crisp and refreshing.

Photo of Axnjxn
4/5  rDev -0.7%

the brett is huge

Photo of crankdatank
4.27/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.25

22 oz poured into a tulip glass. Release #4 9.1% abv. Thin white head which fades quickly. Nice light golden color. Aroma of brett funk, lactic tart and citrus. Taste is tart with nicely balanced brett funk and subtle spice. Finish is dry with lingering tartness and spice with a slight alcohol burn. Very effervescent. Good beer not terribly complex. Drinkable. Happy to get ahold of a crooked stave beer in the Seattle market.

Photo of StoutHunter
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I picked up a bottle of Epic Brewing Company's Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale a couple months ago for $11.99 at Cork N Ale. I've never had this beer, but I've always wanted to try a beer from Crooked Stave and since they don't make it to Michigan I figure this will be the closest I can get to it at the moment and I thought I would give it a shot, so lets see how it goes. Bottled November 19th 2013 Batch #3 9.3%abv. Poured from a brown 22oz bottle into a snifter.

A- The label looks nice, it's similar to the other beers in this series, but it's got drawing of what looks like a businessman wearing bike helmet, I think it's a little eye catching. It poured a fairly hazy bright yellow color that took more of a golden color when held to the light and it had just about two fingers worth of bubbly and slightly creamy white head that died down to a thin ring that stayed till the end and it left some nice rings of patchy lacing behind. This was a very nice looking beer, I have no complaints at all.

S- The aroma starts off with a higher amount of medium sweetness and it's followed by a lighter amount of medium tartness that's followed by the brett being the first to show up and imparts a nice funky aroma that's just slightly vinegar like with some lighter wet straw and horse blanket aromas coming through along with a slight musty aroma. Up next comes the fruits which are like a combination of lemon and apple cider like aromas that mix together pretty well. Towards the end comes the barrel which imparts some light woody aromas with some white wine aromas sticking out the most. This beer had a very nice aroma, all the different aspects worked really nice with each other.

T- The taste seems to be pretty similar to the aroma and it starts off with a higher amount of medium sweetness and it's followed by a lighter amount of medium tartness that seems to be at just the right level and it lead right in the brett which imparts the same aspects that it did in the aroma and it's not overpowering at all. Up next comes the fruits which impart the same aspects that they did in the aroma and they seem to show up just as much, but this time there's also a little pear showing up and it seems a little juicer than it was in the aroma. Towards the end comes the wine barrels which impart the same aspects that they did in the aroma with the white wine still sticking out the most and it had just a little bitterness at the end that lead to a tart, fruity and slightly funky aftertaste. This was a very nice tasting beer, all the different aspects worked very well with each other and the balance was really good.

M- Smooth, fairly crisp, a little refreshing, a little dry on the finish, not too acidic, on the lighter side of being medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. This beer had a really nice mouthfeel that worked really well with this beer.

Overall I thought this was a really nice beer and I thought it was a great example of a brett beer and it had all the aspects that i look for in the style and the wine barrel worked really well with this beer and they kind of helped tie everything together and it made for one tasty yet easy drinking beer. This beer had good drinkability, it was smooth, fairly crisp, a little refreshing, a little dry on the finish, not too acidic, not filling at all and the taste did a great job at holding my attention and I think the full bomber would be the perfect amount for me, I would have no problem drinking a full bottle and I think that may be my limit and I think it would make for a great beer to enjoy during the warmer months of the year. What I like the most about this beer was the balance, each aspect worked really well with each other and no aspect was too overpowering, they were all at the right level. What I liked the least about this beer was nothing, there isn't a single thing that I disliked or would change, it's great just the way it is. I would buy this beer again and I wouldn't mind keeping some in the cellar to see how it develops with more time. I would recommend this beer to anyone who likes brett beers, I would say it's a must try. All in i was impressed with this beer, I've had a couple disappointing beers from Epic, so I was a little leery about spending over $10 on a bottle, but this one turned out to be a great beer and I'm glad I took a chance on it. It's now my favorite beer from Epic and it's one of the better brett beers I've had. This makes me really want to try some beers from Crooked Stave and I think this made for a good collaboration beer and I hope they get together for another collaboration in the future. . Great job guys, this is one hell of a beer, keep up the great work.

Photo of GreesyFizeek
4.26/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottle shared at Nathaniel Square Corner store today.

Pours a murky peachy yellow, with a small quarter inch fizzy head, and a little bit of lacing.

Smells slightly tart and funky, with some hay and lemon, and dry apple cider.

The taste is similar. This one's great because there are a lot of great wild Brett flavors, but it's subtle and doesn't bang you over the head. The tart fruit flavors are really nice, evoking green apple, lemon, white wine, and lime.

Light bodied, crisp, dry mouthfeel, very dry, and very tasty. Medium carbonation. Very drinkable.

This one wasn't on my radar, and I'm very glad to have tried it.

Photo of RblWthACoz
4.06/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Release #003. Brewed 11/12 and bottled 11/13.

What good fortune. This was the beer I was most interested in trying while visiting Utah in 2012 but had just missed everywhere. And lo and behold, I found the last bottle on the shelves at Vintage Estate.

Thin white head on a fogged golden hue. Nose is leather, wet straw, and barnyard and wild yeast funkery. Flavor is lemon citrus, rather sharp, that wild yeast funk, grass. I like it. Kind of firm though and not really bringing much grace or finesse. Either way, it's a shame I didn't get to try the release back in '12, but I am definitely glad I had the chance to try it now.

Photo of JoEBoBpr
4.24/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4

Beer poured into a long stemmed tulip glass.
Release # 9
Collaboration with Crooked Stave

Beer pours a nice bright golden color with a nice half inch white head of medium density that recedes quickly down to nothing. A very bright yet slightly hazy brew.

Aroma is of yummny saison spice with great barrel note. Slightly vinous notes with some chalky yeast phenols and some funk. Also some mild citric tartness in the nose.

Flavor starts off with some nice vinous character. White wine notes. Dry grape and earthy wood. Notes of slight tartness with mild citrus notes combines with nice grape juice and wine sweetness. Buttery Chardonnay notes with some nice mineral and dry notes of a Pinot Grigio. Overall a very complex flavor profile. Nice slight alcoholic burn with some nice notes of tartness and dry woody funk to finish things off. Nice dry body and overall a well carbonated profile that cleans the palette leaving you wanting more.

Awesome brett based beer. Wine barrels give it a nice touch.

Photo of draheim
3.57/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

22oz into a tulip. Pours a crystal-clear pure golden color w/ a 1-finger pure white head.

Aroma is grassy and tart, earthy. Green apples, pale biscuity malt, lemon and spice.

Taste is clean and dry, crisp. A gentle bretty tartness brings a mild citrusy quality. But this beer lacks the distinctive saison funk I expect from the style; it seems like it's trying to be some kind of gateway beer, but ends up feeling kind of like a cross between a saison and a pilsner. There's also a distracting grainy crushed-aspirin taste that I get in some brett saisons.

Mouthfeel is a little light, lacks body. Carbonation is a bit prickly. Lacks the soft mouthfeel I expect from the style.

Overall a decent beer but it lacks the body and complexity that separates the great from the good.

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Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale from Epic Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 348 ratings.