Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale - Epic Brewing Company

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85 Reviews
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Reviews: 85
Hads: 365
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 9.7%
Wants: 27
Gots: 59 | FT: 6
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Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 01-28-2012

Epic Brewing Company’s latest barrel-aged beer brings something new—wild yeast. This brew is a collaboration ale with Crooked Stave Artisan Brewing of Fort Collins, Colorado. Chad Yakobson, brewmaster/owner of Crooked Stave, is well known for his skill and knowledge in the brewing of sour and Brettanomyces driven beers. The beer was brewed at Epic by the two brewers. Kevin Crompton, Epic’s brewmaster, and Chad spent several weeks working on the recipe and selecting the proper Brett strains and barrels for the beer to morph from a golden Sasion into a Saison-Brett Golden Ale.
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Reviews: 85 | Hads: 365
Reviews by kojevergas:
Photo of kojevergas
2.68/5  rDev -33.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded silver pressure cap and simple lime green/beige label served into a Uinta pilsner glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high; I loved Big Bad Baptist and I love a good saison, but I'm not big on Crooked Stave. Release #2. 9.5% ABV according to my bottle.

Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a two finger white colour head of fair cream, nice thickness, and pretty decent (~4 minute) retention for the high ABV. Body colour is a clear translucent pale yellow. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Not a great appearance for a saison, but it's not unappealing.

Sm: Pear, white wine, white grapeskin, lightly tart brettanomyces - nowhere near as funky as I expected, pale malts, crystal malts, light lemon citrus esters, cidery character, buried delicate wood barrel, and light pale grains. A subtly executed aroma of mild to moderate strength. No alcohol is detectable. It's not quite what I expected, but it's good. More a golden ale than a saison based on the aromatics. Any hopping is light and floral in character. Intriguing.

T: Hm. There's good and bad here. White grapeskin is the first thing I get. It has an overly sweet pale malt body. Hopping is floral and generic. The white wine aging takes a turn for the worse around the climax, where it quickly devolves into a crappy white wine mixed with cheap pear cidre. Ugh. Overdone crystal malt is prominent. Where's the subtlety of the aroma? I'm not liking this one at all; I didn't expect it to be this bad. Terribly balanced. Poorly built for a saison. I don't get hardly any brettanomyces; no funkiness and only a bit of tartness. What went wrong here? Is Batch #2 considerably different than Batch #1?

Mf: A bit acidic. Coarse and wet. Unrefreshing. Overly thick. Overcarbonated. Poor presence on the palate. Horribly executed for a saison. Doesn't suit the flavour profile or the style hardly at all.

Dr: I used to think Epic was crappy based on the Brainless beers I tried. Then I had Big Bad Baptist and wanted to try more Epic. Now, I'm moving back towards leaving their beers on the shelf. Is this brewery really this hit and miss? Or can I pin this one on Crooked Stave? Terribly done for a saison, lacking any degree of subtlety, balance, or sophistication. Really disappointing. I'll have trouble killing this bottle due to the low quality. Not at all recommended. Unexpectedly bad.

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More User Reviews:
Photo of oberon
3.67/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a large tulip glass a somewhat hazed lighter golden with a thinner than expected white head atop.Alot of tart green apple in the nose,a tinge spice with funk induced brett somewhat subdued wich didn't bother me.Again tart green apples play a big role on the palate with the funkiness being a little more assertive,a decent breadiness holds well thru the finish,the alcohol lends just a little sweet zip.Not bad,it's not as funky as many of the farmhouse brett in fused styles, but it's not overly complex either. (524 characters)

Photo of t2grogan
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

Photo of Tiernan
3.97/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of tbryan5
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of wrycon
3.78/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A pretty golden pale straw. Smells deeply of fruit - golden apple and pear. A lot of funk and some hints of Chardonnay. Crisp to start with an acidic tang. The mid is a plump socket of sweet pear. The golden ale makes itself known in the back third, rounding the brew into a highly drinkable package. Mouthfeel is a bit thicker than expected, though not overly so. Good collab.

Like It? Yes, Indeed (399 characters)

Photo of DaftPatrick
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of Beaver13
3.36/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle, release #1. Pours a hazy yellow with a smallish white head that goes to a thin film that leaves some lacing. It has quite a few floaties.

The aroma is floral brett and some slightly metallic overripe fruits and some funk.

The flavor is some fruity apple champagne with brett notes and some funk with a bit of bitterness in the dry finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, I recall this being a much better brett beer when I had it a couple of months ago. Either this bottle is different or it isn't aging well for my tastes. A lot more sediment this time around too. (614 characters)

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to bu11zeye for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours a yellow color with a white head. The aroma has a good bit of brett in it, as well as some lacto notes, which are complimented by the wheat and lemon characteristics. The flavor has quite a bit of brett and leathery funk it in, with some wheat and a little bit of green pepper and Belgian yeast. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A very odd beer, but one I found pretty enjoyable. (447 characters)

Photo of alienlifeforcecube
3.5/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of xdefeatsy
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of pat61
4.59/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours hazy straw gold with a 1” white foam collar that descends to ¼” and leaves light lace.
S: Barnyard nose with over ripe fruit, some wine notes, citrus, and a faint banana.
T: A funky, sour fruity palate with spicy herbal notes, lemon, some orange hints, a dash of pepper and traces of oak with a dry, tart finish.
M: the beer has the distinctive Brett texture – refreshing, very fine soft carbonation, medium light body.
O: This is a refreshing saison with a big Brett and wine character. (506 characters)

Photo of doremite
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of wo87810
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of Auraan
4.96/5  rDev +23.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Poured a hazy yellowish orange with a thin white head that dissipated quickly leaving no lacing. Scents of apricot, barnyard like funk, and sour notes. Flavor is pronounced sour notes, some fruity (green grape) notes, a hit of lemon, light hints of pale malt and a dry, white wine-like finish. Mouthfeel is light and crisp with a medium carbonation level. An excellent brett beer, with deep sour notes and a good degree of complexity on the taste and a bit less complex, but still excellent, scent. A very good beer that I'd try again. (535 characters)

Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

Photo of ste5venla
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

Photo of JMS1512
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of mdaschaf
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of Tuckersmth
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

Photo of UWBadgerFan4Life
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of Sammy
3.8/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Big brett aroma, saison brett. Odd spider lacing. Funk aroma, a sour edge. Yellow bodied. Boozy smell in the finish, bigger than the listed abv. A pleasant drinkable sourness.
Bottle from recent US trip.A recommended try for funk and saison fans. A good and unique Brett. (271 characters)

Photo of spacecake9
3.94/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a clear golden color, very limited head.
S - Aroma is yeasty with lemon.
T - Flavor is yeast, just a little sour, others suggest alcohol in the finish but I do not. almost champagne like.
M - As expected, crisp, dry and thin with a lot of carbonation.
O - I'm not an expert on Saisons but this one seems a little different. Perhaps it's the Brett, or the wine barrel aging. I agree it's good cold and it was so good I never really let it warm up. This is not a sour beer, it's a farmhouse ale and if you enjoy that style you should give this a try. Glad I did. (572 characters)

Photo of Justdoit1234
4.08/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

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Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale from Epic Brewing Company
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