Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale - Epic Brewing Company
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2.63/5 rDev -34.4%
1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded silver pressure cap and simple lime green/beige label served into a Uinta pilsner glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high; I loved Big Bad Baptist and I love a good saison, but I'm not big on Crooked Stave. Release #2. 9.5% ABV according to my bottle.
Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.
A: Pours a two finger white colour head of fair cream, nice thickness, and pretty decent (~4 minute) retention for the high ABV. Body colour is a clear translucent pale yellow. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Not a great appearance for a saison, but it's not unappealing.
Sm: Pear, white wine, white grapeskin, lightly tart brettanomyces - nowhere near as funky as I expected, pale malts, crystal malts, light lemon citrus esters, cidery character, buried delicate wood barrel, and light pale grains. A subtly executed aroma of mild to moderate strength. No alcohol is detectable. It's not quite what I expected, but it's good. More a golden ale than a saison based on the aromatics. Any hopping is light and floral in character. Intriguing.
T: Hm. There's good and bad here. White grapeskin is the first thing I get. It has an overly sweet pale malt body. Hopping is floral and generic. The white wine aging takes a turn for the worse around the climax, where it quickly devolves into a crappy white wine mixed with cheap pear cidre. Ugh. Overdone crystal malt is prominent. Where's the subtlety of the aroma? I'm not liking this one at all; I didn't expect it to be this bad. Terribly balanced. Poorly built for a saison. I don't get hardly any brettanomyces; no funkiness and only a bit of tartness. What went wrong here? Is Batch #2 considerably different than Batch #1?
Mf: A bit acidic. Coarse and wet. Unrefreshing. Overly thick. Overcarbonated. Poor presence on the palate. Horribly executed for a saison. Doesn't suit the flavour profile or the style hardly at all.
Dr: I used to think Epic was crappy based on the Brainless beers I tried. Then I had Big Bad Baptist and wanted to try more Epic. Now, I'm moving back towards leaving their beers on the shelf. Is this brewery really this hit and miss? Or can I pin this one on Crooked Stave? Terribly done for a saison, lacking any degree of subtlety, balance, or sophistication. Really disappointing. I'll have trouble killing this bottle due to the low quality. Not at all recommended. Unexpectedly bad.
03-29-2013 04:36:30 | More by kojevergas
3.34/5 rDev -16.7%
Cracked open a 22oz bottle of this. Label indicates 'Release #2, 9.5% ABV'.
Pours a straw color with bright white head. Smell is of pilsner malt, light funky brett, pineapple, and hops. Taste is slightly tart, hops, a bit of funk, and some out of place sweetness. No barrel. Medium to full body. Mouthfeel is a weak spot for me. A little slick. A bit too full for the style and many typical saison characteristics were missing. Overall its an okay beer that hides the alcohol well. There are some nice flavors but it needs some work.
06-19-2013 02:30:46 | More by mroberts1204
3.38/5 rDev -15.7%
22oz bottle, release #1. Pours a hazy yellow with a smallish white head that goes to a thin film that leaves some lacing. It has quite a few floaties.
The aroma is floral brett and some slightly metallic overripe fruits and some funk.
The flavor is some fruity apple champagne with brett notes and some funk with a bit of bitterness in the dry finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation.
Overall, I recall this being a much better brett beer when I had it a couple of months ago. Either this bottle is different or it isn't aging well for my tastes. A lot more sediment this time around too.
06-13-2012 04:55:22 | More by Beaver13
3.49/5 rDev -13%
Poured into a tulip out of a 22oz bomber.
Pours a clear medium gold with barely some thin wispy traces of a head. Plenty of carbonation with small bubbles rising throughout but all quickly dissipate when they reach the surface. No lacing either.
An average amount of funk in the aroma but not quite to the level that I was expecting. A little bit of grape and oak reminiscent of a Chardonnay along with lemon/lime and some white bread.
The brett is even less pronounced in the flavor, unfortunately. There is more grape skin and oak but it is subdued as well. A bit of tart lemon and lime come through nicely complimenting the tartness from the wild yeast. Mouthfeel is a bit thin which is ok for the style but the finish is not at all crisp and dry like it should be.
Overall, I am a bit disappointed with this beer. I really wish all of the flavors were more forward and less muddled. I was really hoping this was going to be a Brett bomb. An ok beer but really not worth putting tons of effort into seeking out.
01-16-2013 01:34:02 | More by rangerred
3.5/5 rDev -12.7%
Poured from the bottle into a goblet.
Appearance: Pours a cloudy orangish yellow color with just a small layer of head that goes away as quickly as any beer I've ever had.
Smell: Some brett funk up front with some Belgian spice and a slightly tart fruity note.
Taste: This beer has that slightly funky and tart brett flavor right off the bat. There is a component that is a bit perfume like. Some sweet malt with a green apple like fruity tartness.
Mouthfeel: Medium body with tiny, tingly bubbles and a dry finish.
Overall: This is a good beer. I was surprised how fast the head disappeared. The perfume like qualities that show up in some wild ales aren't my favorite.
04-24-2012 23:30:13 | More by oline73
Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale from Epic Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 244 ratings.