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Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale - Epic Brewing Company

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257 Ratings
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Ratings: 257
Reviews: 70
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 9.73%
Wants: 25
Gots: 32 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Epic Brewing Company’s latest barrel-aged beer brings something new—wild yeast. This brew is a collaboration ale with Crooked Stave Artisan Brewing of Fort Collins, Colorado. Chad Yakobson, brewmaster/owner of Crooked Stave, is well known for his skill and knowledge in the brewing of sour and Brettanomyces driven beers. The beer was brewed at Epic by the two brewers. Kevin Crompton, Epic’s brewmaster, and Chad spent several weeks working on the recipe and selecting the proper Brett strains and barrels for the beer to morph from a golden Sasion into a Saison-Brett Golden Ale.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 01-28-2012)
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Photo of Sammy
3.8/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Big brett aroma, saison brett. Odd spider lacing. Funk aroma, a sour edge. Yellow bodied. Boozy smell in the finish, bigger than the listed abv. A pleasant drinkable sourness.
Bottle from recent US trip.A recommended try for funk and saison fans. A good and unique Brett.

Sammy, Mar 10, 2013
Photo of t0rin0
4.25/5  rDev +6%

t0rin0, Sep 26, 2012
Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.15/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Release # 1.

Pours a murky light yellow with a 1 inch foamy white head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Foamy rings of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Lots of sediment is seen floating in the beer after the pour. Smell is of grain, tart fruit (sour green apples, etc.), funk, and some Brett. Taste is of grain, sour fruits, funk, light Brett, and some buttery flavors. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that has a nice Brett presence that isn't too in your face. Very tasty and easy to drink too.

UCLABrewN84, Mar 31, 2012
Photo of djrn2
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

djrn2, Dec 21, 2013
Photo of Thorpe429
3.14/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Thanks Jeff. Served in a cervoise. Pale yellow. Bready and Bretty. Lemon and a bit of grain. Flavor a bit phenolic. Moderate carbonation. Dry.

Thorpe429, Jan 09, 2013
Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

acurtis, Feb 27, 2014
Photo of metter98
4/5  rDev -0.2%

metter98, Sep 07, 2014
Photo of BEERchitect
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I love what Brettanomyces does to beers, even when they aren't considered a sour style. The teeth churning dry, funky-fresh earthen character adds complexity and seduction to nealry every beer that attemps this feat. This time- Saison!

Opening with a densly hazed light gold appearance, the beer sheds an tall column of foam that's comprised of both tight knit froth and loosely knit bubbles. Strong in its retention, it randomly laces the glass with clumped pockets here and there- somewhat pelicle-like.

A brisk whiff of sulfury sea air wafts over the nose, en route to aromas of apple cider, dried limes, weathered wood, cellar-like must, and sweat that layers on a grainy-sweet scented bed of light malt.

Earthy in taste, the supple grain sweetness of baking bread and light honey rise first, just ahead of the tart fruit flavors of crab apple, dried limes, white wine and citrus peels. As the beer gains earthen character, other complements of dust, must, brine, and plaster rise to greet a bitter-tart interplay in finish.

Medium-light in body, the already dry Saison textures are further ripped appart by the powdery smooth dryness from the wild yeast. Bone dry to finish, the ale is almost more completely appreciated in aftertaste where the carbonation keeps all those flavors and aromatics captured hovering above the tongue.

Elder Brett is a fantastic and whimsical ale that really goes back to the true farmhouse brewed ales. Similar to Boulevard's Saison-Brett, this one also carries all those intangibles of Brettanomyces in its look, aroma, taste, and all the way through texture.

BEERchitect, Mar 27, 2013
Photo of GRG1313
4/5  rDev -0.2%

GRG1313, May 15, 2013
Photo of oberon
3.65/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a large tulip glass a somewhat hazed lighter golden with a thinner than expected white head atop.Alot of tart green apple in the nose,a tinge spice with funk induced brett somewhat subdued wich didn't bother me.Again tart green apples play a big role on the palate with the funkiness being a little more assertive,a decent breadiness holds well thru the finish,the alcohol lends just a little sweet zip.Not bad,it's not as funky as many of the farmhouse brett in fused styles, but it's not overly complex either.

oberon, Sep 04, 2012
Photo of RblWthACoz
4.05/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Release #003. Brewed 11/12 and bottled 11/13.

What good fortune. This was the beer I was most interested in trying while visiting Utah in 2012 but had just missed everywhere. And lo and behold, I found the last bottle on the shelves at Vintage Estate.

Thin white head on a fogged golden hue. Nose is leather, wet straw, and barnyard and wild yeast funkery. Flavor is lemon citrus, rather sharp, that wild yeast funk, grass. I like it. Kind of firm though and not really bringing much grace or finesse. Either way, it's a shame I didn't get to try the release back in '12, but I am definitely glad I had the chance to try it now.

RblWthACoz, May 30, 2014
Photo of StonedTrippin
3.98/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

this is a really solid brew, but one that likely will improve with a little age. its drinking a bit young from a brett standpoint, but is still loaded with flavor. rather clear for a wild ale type, bright golden in color with a slowly fading inch of white head. green skinned pears and floral saison yeast are the primary smells, but i get some bretty funk in there as well as a sweeter wheat malt with a hint of honey-like sugar. the taste is less fruity than the nose, and i really do taste a saison as a bade before i taste a wild bretty brew. the brett is subtle, and it comes on late simultaneously with the leftover sugar, unconventional to say the least. its herbal and sturdy, not quite as dry and bubbly as i expect brett beers to be, but it may get there with some time. as it is, its a complex and interesting brew with lots of yeast character and body, and its definitely worth the roughly 12 bucks they ask for a bottle, but it may be cool to buy a few for later. some age may make this really pop off.

StonedTrippin, Jan 23, 2014
Photo of drabmuh
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle from a tasting, thanks. Beer is yellow and mostly clear with a white head, moderate carbonation, a nice set of lacing.

Aroma is brett and there is a nice spicy floral notes.

Beer is decent, a nice brett funkiness and very floral in the palate. It doesn't seem like something i would like but it turns out to work together. I do like this beer, a lot. I'd have it again.

drabmuh, Nov 04, 2012
Photo of jlindros
3.95/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to Francois for sharing at his bottle share.

Nice fizzy head, hazy golden peach colored.

Nose nice fruit funk, light tangerine guava like fruit, some Brett funk, light sweet blond malts,

Taste nice Brett barnyard funk to start, grassy hay, grainy, then guava fruit and some stone fruit skin must, little juicy citrus fruit as well and touch of lemon zest, sweet blond malts. Pretty tasty, but not much for saison flavors, more of a blond ale with Brett.

Mouth is med to lighter bodied, nice effervescent carb.

Overall not bad, some nice barnyard funk but a bit too light, I do like the idea of blond ale instead of real saison characters, but I love my saisons more so I would have preferred that, and nice fruit flavors, but a bit too malty sweet.

jlindros, May 06, 2013
Photo of oline73
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle into a goblet.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy orangish yellow color with just a small layer of head that goes away as quickly as any beer I've ever had.

Smell: Some brett funk up front with some Belgian spice and a slightly tart fruity note.

Taste: This beer has that slightly funky and tart brett flavor right off the bat. There is a component that is a bit perfume like. Some sweet malt with a green apple like fruity tartness.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tiny, tingly bubbles and a dry finish.

Overall: This is a good beer. I was surprised how fast the head disappeared. The perfume like qualities that show up in some wild ales aren't my favorite.

oline73, Apr 25, 2012
Photo of Rifugium
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: bottle share; thanks Dan!

Poured a slighly hazy golden-yellow color with a small cap of white bubbly head. Classic Brett profile in the nose, floral with light notes of citrus and spice. Taste was mildly tart, call me crazy but I got a very distinct cinnamon flavor in there, like Big Red gum, overlaid on secondary flavors of pear, lemon, white wine, pale malts; floral elements in there too. Light-medium body, with a moderate carbonation, crisp and easily drinkable.

Rifugium, Mar 10, 2013
Photo of mactrail
4.16/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Attractive pale golden in the Brugs chalice with a modest mustache of foam. Appealing spritzy mouthfeel but light in body. Release #2 is 9.5% ABV.

Flavors of apple and pear skins with a touch of sweetness and honey fragrance. I think this is one of the better varieties of Brett-infused brewing. It includes the flavor and dry funk without submerging the fruity Saison character. Actually this reminds me of a French cider, but seriously amped up. Dry at the end, but fortunately not as intense as many Belgians.

Another good example of Epic's brews that include restraint among their virtues.I think this would stand up to most of the Belgian breweries in a blind taste test. From the 22 oz bottle purchased at Holiday Wine Cellar in Escondido.

mactrail, Mar 19, 2013
Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to bu11zeye for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours a yellow color with a white head. The aroma has a good bit of brett in it, as well as some lacto notes, which are complimented by the wheat and lemon characteristics. The flavor has quite a bit of brett and leathery funk it in, with some wheat and a little bit of green pepper and Belgian yeast. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A very odd beer, but one I found pretty enjoyable.

Mora2000, Jul 04, 2012
Photo of MarkyMOD
4/5  rDev -0.2%

MarkyMOD, Jan 09, 2013
Photo of Halcyondays
4.01/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4

22 oz. bomber, Release #2, listed at 9.5%

A: Pours a lightly hazy dark goldenrod with a creamy large white head, good sticky lace.

S: Notes of white wine, oak, pear and golden apple. Musty leather as well.

T: Bretty, but not over the top. A nice balance to everything. Dominated by white pepper spice, pears and apples. The barrel character just adds more of that on to everything. Light notes of funk, but in the end, a fairly straightforward beer.

M: Medium-bodied with a very soft ethereal carbonation. Light crisp acidity brings everything up a notch.

O: A very good effort. Do I like the price - no. Do I like the beer - yes, quite a bit. Certainly a must try once for the adventurous beer geek.

Halcyondays, Apr 27, 2013
Photo of kojevergas
2.63/5  rDev -34.4%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded silver pressure cap and simple lime green/beige label served into a Uinta pilsner glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high; I loved Big Bad Baptist and I love a good saison, but I'm not big on Crooked Stave. Release #2. 9.5% ABV according to my bottle.

Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a two finger white colour head of fair cream, nice thickness, and pretty decent (~4 minute) retention for the high ABV. Body colour is a clear translucent pale yellow. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Not a great appearance for a saison, but it's not unappealing.

Sm: Pear, white wine, white grapeskin, lightly tart brettanomyces - nowhere near as funky as I expected, pale malts, crystal malts, light lemon citrus esters, cidery character, buried delicate wood barrel, and light pale grains. A subtly executed aroma of mild to moderate strength. No alcohol is detectable. It's not quite what I expected, but it's good. More a golden ale than a saison based on the aromatics. Any hopping is light and floral in character. Intriguing.

T: Hm. There's good and bad here. White grapeskin is the first thing I get. It has an overly sweet pale malt body. Hopping is floral and generic. The white wine aging takes a turn for the worse around the climax, where it quickly devolves into a crappy white wine mixed with cheap pear cidre. Ugh. Overdone crystal malt is prominent. Where's the subtlety of the aroma? I'm not liking this one at all; I didn't expect it to be this bad. Terribly balanced. Poorly built for a saison. I don't get hardly any brettanomyces; no funkiness and only a bit of tartness. What went wrong here? Is Batch #2 considerably different than Batch #1?

Mf: A bit acidic. Coarse and wet. Unrefreshing. Overly thick. Overcarbonated. Poor presence on the palate. Horribly executed for a saison. Doesn't suit the flavour profile or the style hardly at all.

Dr: I used to think Epic was crappy based on the Brainless beers I tried. Then I had Big Bad Baptist and wanted to try more Epic. Now, I'm moving back towards leaving their beers on the shelf. Is this brewery really this hit and miss? Or can I pin this one on Crooked Stave? Terribly done for a saison, lacking any degree of subtlety, balance, or sophistication. Really disappointing. I'll have trouble killing this bottle due to the low quality. Not at all recommended. Unexpectedly bad.

C-

kojevergas, Mar 29, 2013
Photo of beernads
3.25/5  rDev -19%

beernads, May 31, 2013
Photo of corby112
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Release #3, SLC #1189

Pours a clear, pale golden orange color with yellowish-gold hues and a two finger, pillowy white head that very slowly settles into a thick, lasting ring. Excellent retention with streaks of soapy lacing coating the glass on the way down. A bit lighter/paler than expected but otherwise looks very inticing.

Musty aroma with a strong funky brett presence that nicely complimented by earthy farmhouse yeast, peppery spice, ester-y light fruit and boozy sweetness. Smells surprisingly similar to Orval but a little less funky and with a delicate vinous wine barrel character. There's a touch of damp oak along with sweet vinous fruit, especially grape, cider and pear. Some peppery spice along with bread, wild bugs and pale biscuit-like malt. The nose of this beer is very inviting with a great balance of wine barrel, farmhouse funk and wild yeast.

On the fuller end of medium body with soft carbonation and a prominent wine barrel presence that slightly overwhelms the saison flavors. Along with the barrel notes, there's a delicate brett character that compliments the funky farmhouse yeast. The brett/wild yeast isn't as strong as the nose suggests which is kind of a disappointment because it was so pleasant in the aroma. The barrel flavors are pleasant with some dry, charred oak and sweet vinous fruit but the saison/farmhouse notes are somewhat buried and the brett character is minimal. Lots of vinous and light fruit sweetness with light grape, apple, pear and banana. There's a touch of bubblegum and some boozy sweetness in the finish but the high ABV is decently masked. Pretty easy to drink but a bit one dimensional and lacking in complexity. This was a promising collaboration but the barrel notes are too strong for my liking, overpowering the brettanomyces strains and farmhouse funk.

corby112, Dec 17, 2013
Photo of dbrauneis
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Release #2

A: Pours a crystal clear medium golden yellow in color with light amounts of visible carbonation and some apricot/peach highlights. The beer has a finger tall foamy sudsy white head that slowly reduces to a medium to large patch of very thin film and a thin to medium thick ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate amounts of lacing.

S: Wonderful moderate to strong aromas of brett funky/sourness with some lighter aromas of grainy pale malts and light fruit (green apple, pear, and grape). There are some light hints of white wine and oak.

T: Upfront there is a light flavor of grainy pale malts with some light to moderate flavors of light fruits (sour green apple, pear, and grape). There are some light to moderate flavors of white wine and oak from the barrel aging as well as a bit of spiciness (white pepper). Additionally there is a moderate flavor of brett which imparts light amounts of tartness and some barnyard funk.

M: Slightly less than medium bodied with moderate to heavy amounts of carbonation. Moderate amounts of dryness with some prickly acidity.

O: I love the brett flavors in this beer and the tartness/funkiness that it imparts - I have really enjoyed the Crooked Stave beers I have tried and this collaboration is better than the sum of it's parts. I would definitely get this one again.

dbrauneis, Jul 25, 2013
Photo of mothman
4.43/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a white head head. Leaves some decent lace. Color is a slight hazed golden yellow.

Aroma: Very fruity and herbal. Lemon and green apples. Very earthy. A very slight amount of brett. Fairly tart. This beer is smelling awesome.

Aroma: Tart green apples and pears. lemon zest and citrus. Spices. Brett. Yeast. Funkiness is here. Farmhouse flavors. This beer is awesome.

Mouthfeel: Spiced, tart, and clean. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends dry.

Overall, this was a great beer. By far the best Epic beer I have had. A great saison with a nice tart and fruit flavor. The brett was mild, but I liked it. Very enjoyable! Very drinkable!

mothman, Mar 04, 2012
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Elder Brett: Saison-Brett Golden Ale from Epic Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 257 ratings.