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Ichtegem's Grand Cru - Brouwerij Strubbe

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Reviews: 245
Hads: 525
rAvg: 3.71
pDev: 11.59%
Wants: 25
Gots: 43 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Photo of DaveHS
3.36/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours deep brown with ruby highlights and a fluffy 1.5 inch head. Leaves moderate soapy lacing.

S-Sauerkraut! Makes me want a hot dog. Some light lactic acidity.

T/M-Soft, nutty. Not very sour. Just a hint of cherry sweetness, low carbonation.

D-I could see this being a good gateway Flanders Red, but certainy not a great representation of the style. (357 characters)

Photo of DefenCorps
3.35/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle, picked up at State Line in Elkton. Date on cap says "08-2010", so i guess this bottle has another two years to go. Into my Defiant tulip

A: Pours a very deep red (almost reddish-brown) with a solid two-finger head. Holding it against a strong light reveals plenty of carbonation and a beer of considerable clarity.

S: Sour with some acetic notes with a pronounced oaky sweetness with plenty almost raw oaky vanilla character. The sweetness in this beer is very woody in nature and quite appealing. In the grander scheme of things, this one's among the less sour of the Flemish Reds but not everything can be a La Folie or Ommegang Rouge.

T: Starts off with a surprisingly sour character with some vinegar and oak and a palm sugar like sweetness. On swallowing, however, this beer becomes quite, uh, strange with some almost rotting meat-like flavor and a mildly tannic, dry finish.

M: Fairly light in body with pretty good carbonation and a nice dry finish (maybe a tad watery) but the strange flavor on the finish is off-putting.

D: This is fairly easy to drink, at least until you swallow this beer. I'm not sure I'll finish it, probably let it sit for an hour before i continue drinking (1,210 characters)

Photo of jojox
3.35/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

a - brown, slightly red. Very clear. No sediment, this doens't seem to be bottle conditioned.

s - smells of toast and mild wild funk. Caramel malt in there too.

t - sweet malt with a hint of sour and tang. Winey, red wine but no tannins.

m - lots of CO2. Not much else to say.

d - easy, but not what I expected.

This seems like a very simple beer, only very slightly tart/tangy and not much complex sourness or funkyness. Very drinkable. (444 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.34/5  rDev -10%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle poured into an RR -tion glass. Best by 2015, I think, but it's smudged.

Appearance - Dark ruby brown body with an ample two-finger head of off-white foam. Excellent lacing. Really nice lacing.

Smell - Sweet malts and oak are most predominant. Hardly any tart aromas. Cherry, I suppose, but it's not a sour cherry.

Taste - Much more acidic than the aroma implies. Harsh acidic red wine vinegar. Oak all over, too. Finishes just a touch sweet.

Mouthfeel - Harsh on the palate. The flavors aren't bad, but the mouthfeel is unpleasant. Very acidic and vinegary. Highly carbonated.

Overall - It's harsh and too oaky. The flavors aren't inherently bad, but the feel just cancels out all benefits. (709 characters)

Photo of Spiderhouse
3.33/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A--Dark, opaque brown with magenta hues. Minimal head. No lacing.

S--Dark overripe cherries, with an odd hint of grapes. Like Bubble Yum grape, not Bordeaux grape. Odd.

T--Like it smells, sadly, with a funky back end. There's a musty, attic-like quality on the finish. Not bad, really, but not great.

M--Merely average.

D--Okay. I mean, I wouldn't turn it down at a party, but this is far from the best I've had in this style. A bit of a disappointment.

Procured from Red Carpet Wine & Liquor, Glendale, CA (511 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.33/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sampled February 2010
A solid pour into my large Tripel Karmeliet tulip produces an almost three-finger thick, lightly amber tinged, light tan colored head. The beer is a dark, almost burnt, amber color that shows a fairly clear, deep red hue when held up to the light. The aroma smells lightly tart, faintly of balsamic vinegar, has a touch of fermented plum sauce, a solid but subtle cherry like fruitiness, some rhubarb aromas and maybe even a hint of nail polish.

Quite a bit sweeter than I was expecting, though not as sweet as the Duchesse, and there is only a touch of tartness to the flavor. The sweetness definitely begs for more balancing sourness, at least for this particular sour beer lover. This tastes quite a bit like cherries up front, but finishes with a rich maltiness that is laden with rich oxidized malt notes, toasted-brown-sugar crusted whole-grain bread and light sherry or even port like notes. Actually come to think of it, this really tastes like Concord grape juice, which I must say I am not the biggest fan of. There is perhaps a hint of spiciness towards the finish that suggests oak, but there is a certain roundness to the texture that suggests oak-derived tannins. The mix of tart and sweet, combines with the medium'ish body to make this fairly drinkable.

I shouldn't have expected too much for this beer, but somehow I feel a bit disappointed and cheated. This is certainly not horrible, but to my preferences it is not sour or tart enough and it could use a bit more malt richness too, hell even some rustic funkiness would be welcome. (1,575 characters)

Photo of brewcrew76
3.3/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

11/2012 printed on cap

A - Deep reddish brown with little head.

S - Sour and slightly acidic, wet oak, cherry yogurt?, maybe a touch of spice.

T - Wet oak, vanilla, slightly spicy with tart cherry. The oaky tannins linger on the tongue.

M - Medium body leaving a slick, dry coating in the mouth. After several sips I feel as if I have been sucking on wet oak chips that have gone dry and are leaving a strange oaky film coating my mouth.

D - Slight promise in appearance and smell but all down hill from there. (515 characters)

Photo of beckje01
3.3/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A- Very dark red color with a thin white head.

S- Very sour nose and a touch of malt in there as well

T- Some malt some sour some dryness and no aftertaste it's nice but the whole taste is rather fleeting, interesting.

M- Slightly too thin a bit more body would help.

D- Nice easy to drink. Not a good beer to start some one with this style with but a nice version of it. Worth a try if you see it. (402 characters)

Photo of Richardberg
3.3/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - poured into a tulip. Dark copper, very reddish when reflecting any amount of light. Fairly opaque but not hazy (no obvious bubbles or sediment in the way, just...hazy). Small head disappears quickly but leaves a little lacing.

S - balsamic vinegar, dark cherry, prune...yet a little bit of sweet caramel too

T - nicely tart up front but lacks backbone and/or auxiliary flavors

M - light body, not much in the way of carbonated zing either. Needs one or the other to bring it back to life.

D - decent sour. not interesting enough to pay import pricing. (559 characters)

Photo of organicbrewer
3.28/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2oz poured into an Oerbier glass

a-Brilliantly clear ruby with a two finger eggshell head. Pleasant to look at. Head thins but lingers.

s-Malt vinegar and cherries. Slightly metalic. Some wood.

t-Sweet carmelly malt. Wood chips. Not very sour. I know the oud bruin isn't puckering but the balance is tilted way towards the sweet. Not much sour here. Almost like a brown ale aged in wood.

m- medium dry bodied. Not a ton of carbonation, which might help cut the sweetness a little

d- If this was a little less sweet, and/or was a bit more sour this would be better. The sweetness lingers on the palate a bit too long. (628 characters)

Photo of Georgiabeer
3.28/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured a murky reddish brown with a thin head. Sweet fruity aromas followed by a dose of lightly acetic sourness. More sweeet than sour, but only slightly. There is also a slight vegetal aroma and some dusty smelling fruit. The taste is a little light, and once again more on the sweet than the sour side. Still, none of the unpleasant vegetal odors manifest in th taste at all. Mouthfeel is very fizzy, a little too much so. Overall, this beer is a little too sweet for the style for my taste and a bit out of balance. Not bad, but there are a number of better options. (570 characters)

Photo of snogglethorpe
3.28/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bears more than a passing resemblance to Ichtegem's Oud Bruin from the same brewery, if a little less sweet.

It's an attractive darkish brown with a nice off-white head. The smell is kind of musty and attractive, but the taste is a little thin and overly sweet. There's not much in the way of sourness/tartness. There's a bit of mustiness/wood in the taste, though not as much as in the smell.

It's quite drinkable and not at all unpleasant, but a little underwhelming. If you're looking for sour/tart, go elsewhere. (518 characters)

Photo of WOTO97
3.26/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A pretty vigorous pour delivers a thin creamy head atop a deep burned mahogany color. Pretty dense lacing results.

Some very faint tartness in the nose with some light vinegar notes. Some grape and green apple come through with very distant cranberry flavors.

Aside from some lactic acid on the finish, very subtle, almost muted, tartness throughout. Strong wood flavors along with a slight resiny finish along with a touch of charcoal. Don't really pick up on any of the cherries or dark fruit mentioned below, nor any fruit complexity. Also, the finish is surprisingly not dry.

Similar mouth-coating that accompanies most sours without the expected puckering. Density is relatively surprising and builds throughout.

Meh...enjoyable for what it offers; however, I probably won't go back to it. (798 characters)

Photo of emerge077
3.26/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours placidly into a fluted tulip glass, a finger of off-white foam appears when the glass is turned from 45º to 90º. In the candlelight, the bowl of the glass glows a deep ruby. Tiny carbonation is seen rising near the foam. Lacing is delicate and spindly, with a sticky edge where it meets the glass.

Musty hay aroma, very muted and bland at first. At room temperature when swirled vigorously, there was a hint of cherry yogurt.

Buttery taste (diacetyl?) leads into vanilla and light touches of oak. Low level tartness fights with the dry oak tannins, and ends up feeling muddled. Is it actually tart, or more of a bitter feel from the wood? Slight taste of cherry pit and skins as it warms up, but not well defined. With a bigger sip, the oak tannin seems more dominant. Nothing funky or wild about it.

Moderate level of carbonation, but it has a filmy slickness at the end that is distracting. Overall it's a little too dull to pique sustained interest. Worth trying but not a repeat buy. Rodenbach buries this by a landslide, Oud Bruin or not. (1,056 characters)

Photo of kimcgolf
3.25/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I really like Flemish Sours, but this one tends to miss the mark somewhat. Pours to a dark brown, with some carbonation, but little or no head or lacing. The nose is muted sour fruit, with a hint of alcohol as the beer warms. While the mouthfeel tries, it is a junior version of the strong bittersweet feel of better FS's. The flavor is again sour fruit, but the finish is somewhat sour, somewhat stale, and definitely not up to Flemish Sour standards.

Nothing special about this, and I think I'll stick with the Duchesse. (523 characters)

Photo of bballmj2k
3.24/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served into snifter. Cap says best buy 07-11-2015

Appearance - Dark burgundy/brown. Cloudy and unfiltered, with minimal head that clings to the side of the glass.

Smell - Oh yum sours. Tart apple, cherries, grapes... degree of funkiness and woodiness.

Taste - Sweet and tart at the beginning. Some hints of fruits (see above). Honestly a bit muted and kind of a disappointment. Not really sour - definitely reminds me of New Belgium's Vrienden. Perhaps a bit of that hibiscus flavor creeps in and is similar to the apple tartness.

Mouthfeel - Not substantial, minimal carbonation. Kind of want more body for something like this. Definitely not puckering or full.

Drinkability - Pretty high. Easy drinking with sweet flavors without being cloying. Lacking a little of that sour punch that I was looking for.

Not a fantastic Flanders Red but not awful either.... pretty mediocre. (883 characters)

Photo of Jfriz25
3.22/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance- Pours a murky reddish brown. If you've ever donated plasma it's like a darker version of that.

Smell- Read some reviews after purchasing and wasn't thrilled but my first thought when I poured the glass was "maybe they are wrong.". Smells tart and funky wih some green apple coming out.

Taste- Starts fairly tart but it is overtaken by a artifcial rotten apple note. Not sure if this is an old bottle because it just tastes kind of stale.

Mouthfeel- Medium body with a decent amout of carbonation on the finish. Probably the highlight of this beer. If only I could drink it without tasting it. (ok that's an exaggeration but still)

Overall- I had never seen this on the shelf before and I'll never pass up the chance to try a new Flanders. I think I paid $6 for this bottle and it definetly wasn't worth that. If you literally had no other sour options fine but it is the definition of mediocre. (910 characters)

Photo of AndoBrew
3.22/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

*did not mind would not buy*

app: looks more brown than red.. not great lookin.

smell: mild pepper some nice tart zing w/ a little bit of brown gravy.

taste: odd. some sort of chemical after taste. some sour, lots of thick almost blonde malts

mf: little to thick, needs more bubles.

drinkable?: needs more zing, its nice but it needs more sour power. (355 characters)

Photo of Halcyondays
3.21/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

33 cl bottle,

A: Pours a beautiful dark crimson into a flute glass with a colour that thins out to the bottom into more of mahogany. Long lasting off-white head with good lacing.

S: Definite wood character, cheesy funk, sugar syrup.

T: Quite sugary, it has good oak notes and barrel character. Funk is interesting, but too much at times, definitely has a ton of Brett in it. Very low in acidity for the style, more like a Belgian dark.

M: I miss the sourness of a more traditional Flanders Red, sweet finish, quite sugary. Relatively light-bodied.

D: Certainly a different take on the style than the more lactic character in something like Rodenbach. An interesting experience, I think any sour fan should try it out. (722 characters)

Photo of Darkmagus82
3.2/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served on tap in a 10 oz chalice glass

Appearance – Served a dark brown color some tints of red and almost no head. Upon swirling there was very little lacing..

Smell – Sour notes of cherry and some notes of other dark fruit aromas of red grape and fig. Mixed with these aromas were some lighter notes of a light oaky note.

Taste – The taste starts out sour and gets even more sour as the taste advances. It begins with cherry and some other sweeter fruit flavors of prune and apple. These flavors bitter and sour more as the taste advances with a more vinegary flavor that enters the profile. In the end some oak flavor meets the bitter and sour flavors to leave a somewhat unpleasant burn on the tongue.

Mouthfeel- The body of the beer is on the light to medium side with the carbonation level rather average.

Overall – While it has some nice aromas and fruit flavors upfront, the very vinegary flavors sort of turn me off (this is not really my style of beer; so if you like sours it has some nice characteristics, but if you don’t like sours then….) (1,070 characters)

Photo of BARFLYB
3.18/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A bottle split with oglmcdgl. I've had this a few times.

The liquid comes out looking dark reddish in hue with some brown strokes set within. A nice fuzzy coca cola like head skims up with some tightness and a off tan color to it. No stick on the glass. Smell is pretty much deep vinegar with some faint cherry scent and some grain. Trace amounts of caramel notes, but this one is all about the vinegar. Taste is sweet over sour and it's very apparent. Vinegar, cherry, cola, sweet malt, you get the picture. Very reminiscent of Duchesses. Feel is less than medium, a nice crisp carb and not acidic, not a pucker inducing beer, but pleasant, I just cant stand the vinegar. I could only drink 6oz of this before passing on it. (726 characters)

Photo of Cresant
3.17/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured this 11.2 oz. brown bottle into a Tripel Karmeliet glass. No date, it's oud. Dark brown/chestnut body, not a lot of red.Nearly opaque. The filmy head remained.

Smell was sour and a little syrupy. Not as tart or vinegary as expected. Earthy yet "clean".

Taste was also not as tart as expected/hoped for. Woody. Raisins. Sweetness up front with a tart finish. Light dryness.

Mouthfeel was mild in the beginning with a zesty swallow. (441 characters)

Photo of gdfan47
3.17/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

picked this up because I have never seen it and it was a flanders..

but I wasnt really feeling it.. not very sour
it was good
it pours a froathy brown, I didnt hate it but i felt like I was drinking a newcastle, and for the money I think it would rather just drink newcastle (276 characters)

Photo of donkeyrunner
3.15/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Opaque brown with a thick and solid tan head. Good retention and a few lacey dribbles. I'm open to interpretation but I want my Flanders Red...well, red.

Aroma is sweet and sour grape mixed with cherry Fun Dip. Steely sour taste mixed with grape Blowpop.

Decent but but monotone and fairly watery. I've been exploring the Flanders red style as of late and so far this is the most lackluster of the bunch. (407 characters)

Photo of beerwolf77
3.15/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured into my duvel tulip from a bottle.

A: muddy cinnamon brown with two solid fingers of light beige head, Nice web of lace left behind

S: tart cherries mixed with caramel and brown sugar, hint of vanilla and maybe figs, trace of funk

T: inital sour punch is brief, this turns quickly into loads of caramel malt and then nothing, it's like a quarter of a beer, you get sour and malt then water, I suppose you could call that a clean finish. HA!

M: light and bubbly

D: Overall another clunker from the sour beer crew, I had high hopes for this one. (556 characters)

Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
84 out of 100 based on 245 ratings.