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Ichtegem's Grand Cru - Brouwerij Strubbe

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245 Reviews
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Reviews: 245
Hads: 531
Avg: 3.73
pDev: 17.96%
Wants: 27
Gots: 44 | FT: 1
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Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: audiojon on 05-07-2006

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Photo of Mosley1212
3.77/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle into my DFH Snifter.

A--Dark red, almost ruby-like with a humongous head. The head died down to about a 1/2" and stayed through the whole drink.

S--Sour cherries, green apple, and Belgian yeast. It's a very complex, delicious smell.

T--Get a lot of yeast up front. The beer is very sour, though not the most sour beer I have ever had. The finish is of sweet cherry flavor with a bit of plum or other dark fruit taste.

M--Tart taste leaves the lips puckering. Heavy carbonation in the beer feels like miniature scrubbers on the tongue. It is a refreshing taste, but there is a slight bitter aftertaste that is unappealing.

O--It's a good representation of the style. It would be a good gateway beer into sours I believe. Not the best, but certainly not the worst.

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Photo of AndoBrew
3.22/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

*did not mind would not buy*

app: looks more brown than red.. not great lookin.

smell: mild pepper some nice tart zing w/ a little bit of brown gravy.

taste: odd. some sort of chemical after taste. some sour, lots of thick almost blonde malts

mf: little to thick, needs more bubles.

drinkable?: needs more zing, its nice but it needs more sour power.

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Photo of airheadmtrcycle
4/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Opaque dark red with a thin white head. Lovely wine-like smell with a strong vinegar essence. Delicious sour flavor that does indeed taste like cherries. Nothing like cough syrup or fake cherry flavor. A little too sweet, but still very good. Medium carbonation that was highly drinkable which really surprised me. This is the first beer of this type that I've had and I am really impressed. My belly warmed with each swig I took.

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Photo of bskrtz
3.53/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served cold -- 11.2 ounce bottle to Abbey style open beer chalice

A) Belgian Dubbel clone, cloudy milk chocolate color ale. Very dense -- you cannot see through this stuff

S) Candy-sweet, fruity licorice, sour dough

T) Sour sweet malt, root beer, apple cider, tart

M) Bottle conditioned effervescent fizz. Holds carbonation well

D)This is not my favorite style, however Ichtegem is an excellent example of the style. Those who like Flemish Ale will surely enjoy this one.

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Photo of GuzzLah
3.68/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - pours a clear, red-brown with a short head, some lace and no bubbles.

S - Sour cherry, green apple, soft vinegar and some bubble gum. No lacto or barnyard.

T - like the aroma with a pleasant finish. Nice flavor, but not extreme.

M - medium body with moderate carbonation. Mildly sour and acetic for the style.

O - not an outstanding Flanders, but I enjoyed drinking it. Conservative without being weak and probably a good gateway to more extreme examples of the style.

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Photo of 7ways
4.07/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

9/21/08 11.5 oz bottle in a tulip.

Looks dirty dark brown until held to the light, when it becomes a gorgeous bright red, with a fleeting off white head. Smells like ripe fruit, oak, and...cheddar? Smoked gouda? Interesting.
Taste: Lovely mild sourness; tart red fruit and muted lactose sweetness. Not much oak, but that's OK. Definitely smoked gouda on the finish, which is my favorite component of this brew. Lively carbonation, but could use a bit more. Not as dry or sour as others I've had of the style.
My local bar keeps this stocked, and I sometimes order 2 or 3 in a session. I ask for the gouda beer. Very good stuff.

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Photo of Jemonster
3.06/5  rDev -18%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Best before date on the cap says 23-03-2015.

A: Murky brownish red, rust colored body. Slightly off white loose/large bubble foam head. Barely leaves lacing on the glass. Not much if any visible carbonation.

S: Immediately it smells like sourdough bread/starter. A little bit of alcohol. Wet books... Not much else.

T: Sour with just a little sweetness. As it warms, the sweetness comes through a little more. Different than any other sour I've had. I get seville orange (bitter orange), grapefruit, oak maybe? Light bitterness at the finish. Pretty good, but one dimensional and straightforward character. It doesn't have that certain..."there's something hidden here" taste that I have come to expect from a Flemish Red.

M: Lightly fizzy carbonation. One of this beers stronger areas to me. I liked it.

D: Pretty good, but this beer was kind of "basic". Not really what I was expecting. It's good, but I wouldn't go out of my way to get another one. Not really worth the $4 for the 11.2oz bottle.

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Photo of organicbrewer
3.28/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2oz poured into an Oerbier glass

a-Brilliantly clear ruby with a two finger eggshell head. Pleasant to look at. Head thins but lingers.

s-Malt vinegar and cherries. Slightly metalic. Some wood.

t-Sweet carmelly malt. Wood chips. Not very sour. I know the oud bruin isn't puckering but the balance is tilted way towards the sweet. Not much sour here. Almost like a brown ale aged in wood.

m- medium dry bodied. Not a ton of carbonation, which might help cut the sweetness a little

d- If this was a little less sweet, and/or was a bit more sour this would be better. The sweetness lingers on the palate a bit too long.

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Photo of tedsox31
4.27/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had this one on-tap at Hopleaf. It was served in a tulip glass.

The appearance is reddish-brown, and somewhere between translucent and opaque. Served to me with a very small head of foam, no lacing was left behind as I drank it.

The aroma that I got immediately was a nice fruity character, some yeast, and also a bit of a vinegar presence. There was also some oak and vanilla, but it was the fruit that dominated.

The taste is very nice. It is not as sour as some other sours that I have had, but there is a nice balance between fruitiness and acidity that appeals to me. Right off I can taste the fruit, cherry or perhaps raspberry. This is followed up by a nice acidity that does not overwhelm me. It finishes with a nice oak taste.

Mouthfeel is a little on the thin side but overall not to distracting. Some carbonation is there also, although it could probably benefit to have a bit more.

The drinkability is high on my scale. The sour taste is such that it cleans my palate and tells me to keep coming back for more, yet there are enough other things going on that it never becomes too much. This beer will not blow you out of your seat in terms of sourness like some Flanders, but I think that it is still a nice representation of the style.

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Photo of snogglethorpe
3.28/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bears more than a passing resemblance to Ichtegem's Oud Bruin from the same brewery, if a little less sweet.

It's an attractive darkish brown with a nice off-white head. The smell is kind of musty and attractive, but the taste is a little thin and overly sweet. There's not much in the way of sourness/tartness. There's a bit of mustiness/wood in the taste, though not as much as in the smell.

It's quite drinkable and not at all unpleasant, but a little underwhelming. If you're looking for sour/tart, go elsewhere.

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Photo of joshstevens87
4.03/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a chestnut red with a half inch light tan head
S-a bit of sharpness and fruits with a fresh woody tone
T-a nice bite offruit a bit of vinegar and very smooth
M-medium body with a low carbonation a very smooth feel
D-overall a great beer that may not be as strong as other beers but is extremely drinkable

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Photo of WOTO97
3.26/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A pretty vigorous pour delivers a thin creamy head atop a deep burned mahogany color. Pretty dense lacing results.

Some very faint tartness in the nose with some light vinegar notes. Some grape and green apple come through with very distant cranberry flavors.

Aside from some lactic acid on the finish, very subtle, almost muted, tartness throughout. Strong wood flavors along with a slight resiny finish along with a touch of charcoal. Don't really pick up on any of the cherries or dark fruit mentioned below, nor any fruit complexity. Also, the finish is surprisingly not dry.

Similar mouth-coating that accompanies most sours without the expected puckering. Density is relatively surprising and builds throughout.

Meh...enjoyable for what it offers; however, I probably won't go back to it.

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Photo of yeastsipper
4/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer pours a light reddish, woody brown. Not much of a head.

The smell is very wine-like with some red wine vinegar smells. I note some cherry scents as well.

This beer is full bodied and well balanced, more so than other oud bruins I have had. It does not have the typical sour finish. While it is sour, it has more of a dry, woody finish to it. The oak barrels really influence the taste of this beer. Flavors of grapes and raisins linger on the palate.

I had not heard a lot about this beer, but it was very enjoyable. It was quite a bit different, earthier and full-bodied, though less complex, than the Duchesse. Pick a bottle of this up if you happen to see it.

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Photo of Fieldzy27
3.76/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a .3l EFEs snifter at kickbacks in JAX
reviewed from notes

A-Pours reddish brown with a white foamy head comprised of sticky sudsy bubbles.

S-Sour like funkiness with hints of sweet dark fruit. Mild cherry notes are present

T-Opens with a lot of sour but balances quickly with cherry and raspberry. Some candi sugar sweetness and caramel notes as well. Finnish is clean and dry.

M-Fairly thin mouth feel with light fizzy carbonation and a lighter body.

D-Overall a light easy drinking sour with lots of flavor.

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Photo of ThirdLap
3.36/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up at Holiday Wine Cellar in Escondido on the way back from my wedding in San Diego. Bottle shows a best before date of 03-2013. Served at 45°F in engraved champagne flutes we received as a gift at our reception.

Pours a dark ruby brown with a finger-thick creamy light tan head. Lots and lots of chunky thick lacing remain as I sip this one down.

Nose is rather subdued... there's a lot going on, but nothing that really screams out for attention. Most apparent is tangy dark cherries and the expected notes of red wine vinegar. Hints of oak and caramel round things out. Alcohol is apparent, which leads me to believe ABV is on the higher end of the scale for Flanders reds.

First taste is promising, with tart cherries, red wine, and an oaky finish, but it quickly fizzles, proving to be a rather one-dimensional example of the style. Savor this one quickly, as any flavor the tongue picks up disappears quick. Mrs. ThirdLap (who is a fan of the style) could not finish her glass, complaining of an off-flavor that reminded her of beers that have been improperly stored... however I'm fairly certain that's not the case with this bottle.

Body is rather thin and watery, with carbonation on the medium-high end of the scale. Alcohol is more noticeable than expected.

I found myself losing interest after the first few sips, knocking a few points off drinkability. It's an easy-drinking beer, but you simply find yourself bored with it very quickly.

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Photo of jojox
3.35/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

a - brown, slightly red. Very clear. No sediment, this doens't seem to be bottle conditioned.

s - smells of toast and mild wild funk. Caramel malt in there too.

t - sweet malt with a hint of sour and tang. Winey, red wine but no tannins.

m - lots of CO2. Not much else to say.

d - easy, but not what I expected.

This seems like a very simple beer, only very slightly tart/tangy and not much complex sourness or funkyness. Very drinkable.

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Photo of SteveS1
4.12/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

Look - Pours cloudy red with amber at the edges. 1-finger bubbly head with average retention, little lacing to speak of.

Smell - strong acidic sourness, tart apples, and a distinct musty aroma.

Taste - Tart cherries and apple on the tongue, general fruitiness on the palate, and a mellow cranberry and oak going down. Mild dry aftertaste.

Feel - Highly carbonated, accentuates the sour notes on the tongue, otherwise rather light

Drink - If sour and fruity is your thing, this one goes down no problem. More on the mild side of what can be accomplished with the style.

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Photo of Beelzebeer
4.3/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330ml bottle, best before April 5/16. This bottle is a year and half old, if not mistaken. Maybe a little less.

A - Dark, dark brown with 1-inch head, some lacing.

S - Dark cherry, sour

T - Medium-high carbonation off the top, gives way to cherries, sour, raisin, a little plum. Alcohol comes in at the end.

M - Carbonation doesn't last too long in the mouth. It dissipates a little too quick. A little astringent too.

O - Pretty nice. Definitely an oud bruin, not a flanders. Would recommend.

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Photo of dqderrick
4.32/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Bottle from Holiday Wine Cellar, Escondido, CA.

A - 4.0
Dark red. No visible particles... very clear but dar.

S - 4.5
Sour, oak barrels, some sour cherries.

T - 4.0
Sour cherries with oaky if slightly vinegar flavor. Woody, oaky after taste.

MF - 4.0
Bubbly on back of tongue. Good mouthfeel.

D - 5.0
Very drinkable. It reminds me of a good Quad Belgian Ale but is only 6.5%. Tastes much bigger than I expected.

This might have been aged a little... but I'm not sure.

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Photo of audiojon
3.74/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I'm a big fan of Flemish Reds, so when I saw that O'Brien's had a new one on tap this week, I had to try it. This was labeled as "Grand Cru," oddly enough. The bartender cleared that up for me and described as being similar to the Duchesse de Bourgogne but not as in your face. Unfortunately, I wish this were a bit more in your face; as it is it's a bit boring, but very enjoyable. In other words, I've had better Flemish Reds, but this is still a good beer. Def worth a try, and would make a very good introductory beer for those wanting to cross over to the dark (sour) side.

As for an actual review:

Smell is pretty non existant, not as much funk as I like. Taste is very good, only a light sourness unfortunately (I like to pucker), but it tastes great regardless of the sourness (or lack thereof). I could probably drink this all afternoon, and in fact may do just that. :)

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Photo of chefkevlar
4.03/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a beautiful deep garnet color with a 1/4 inch or so of tan colored head.

S: Very complex aroma with a mix of cherry, vinegar, raspberry, and a little bit of a funky backgroud

T: Complex just like the smell. I was told this was a sour beer and there is a hit of sour at first, but it fades quickly. Other than that I can taste cherry and raspberry, along with a bit of vinegar. It finishes with a little bit of a mineral taste.

M: Medium body with a moderate amount of carbonation. The carbonation is made of tiny bubbles which reminds me of champagne

D: This is not a beer that could be pounded down in large amounts, but it is very enjoyable to sip on a bottle or two at a time.

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Photo of AllenJasper
3.53/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle to Snifter
First 'sour' beer so i may just be rating the style, not the beer itself.

A: very dark red with a brownish tint. Sandy tan head, no lacing.

S: kinda smells like sparkling wine. Fruity and a strange vinegar hint.

T: it's got a raspberry/vinegar sourness that accommodates a dark red/brown ale flavor.

M: kinda sticky, with sharp carbonation... Sourness lingers

O: I like it. to my lips it's as simple as a sour brown ale, and I normally don't like brown ales. I can't imagine drinking more than 12 oz of this, it kinda baffles me that so many sours are served in 750mL bottles... I'll finish the bottle happy that I tried it though.

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Photo of bceagles39
4.07/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On draft at Gastropub 775 in Reno, NV on July 26 2011.

Beer poured a light chestnut brown. It had a tan head with good lacing.

It smelled of sour cherries.

As one would expect, the first sip was bracingly acidic, sour and quenching.

The carbonation and beer were harsh on the tongue. The beer was very very smooth, likely due to the aging. No fake vanilla notes or anything like that.

Drinks like a Flemish Red with no lack of delicious, funky, Belgian action.

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Photo of lionchow
3.7/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled as Strubbe's Grand Cru.

Pours a dark red brown with a thick rocky off white head.

Aroma is sour, lactic, reminiscent of sauerkraut. There is a slight caramel sweetness.

Flavor is very lactic, very tart. There is a slight flavor of butyric acid which is off-putting. There is a lightly sweet, med roast maltiness that is nice.

The carbonation level fits the flavors well. The mouthfell is light, allowing the tart acidity to shine.

Overall a good, if not great beer.

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Photo of niklas0770
4.55/5  rDev +22%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The one finger head quickly fades and leaves only the dark red/brownish mystical looking liquid.

The smell is sour and lively. There's plenty of yeast, sour apples and raisins. Sourdough and sweet cherrys comes to mind aswell.

As for the taste it's sour and dry with lemon peel, dry grass, yeast and sour grapes up front. There are only hints of sweetness. Cherry and raisins, and maybe some unripe strawberries.

This beer has got a very dry feel to it, but yet I feel a slight creamyness just before it goes down my throat. If this had been a stronger beer I would have said it was due to the alcohol, but in this case it's probably just my imagination...

I have now finished at 750 lm bottle and I still wouldn't say no to another one, even though this one took me some one and a half hours to finish.

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Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
84 out of 100 based on 245 ratings.