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Ichtegem's Grand Cru - Brouwerij Strubbe

Ichtegem's Grand CruIchtegem's Grand Cru

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BA SCORE
85
very good

407 Ratings
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Ratings: 407
Reviews: 226
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 12.53%


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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: audiojon on 05-07-2006)
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DoubleJ

California

3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Let's sweet and sour it up. 330 ml bottle, on to the beer:

A surprising amount of good lacing is left on the glass of this orange brown colored beer. It's even smelling good too with the sweet carmel candies and tartness, plus a little vinigrette.

I'd call the flavor pretty good. The difference though is that the flavor seems to dissapear at times. Between the usual sweet and sour flavor is the addtion of pickle juice, which gives the beer a more bitter taste. Somewhat acidic. The body is a little smaller for the style, with just a little buzz from the carbonation.

Ichtegem's Grand Cru is a solid representation of the Flemish Red. Worth trying if you're into the style.

Serving type: bottle

08-26-2010 04:39:28 | More by DoubleJ
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weeare138

Pennsylvania

2.1/5  rDev -44%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Thanks to Phatz for deciding to share this one. I've never seen this one before, so I was anxious to give it a shot...
Appears a reddish brown with a small tan head that slowly fades into a mild cap. Scattered bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of turkey gravy, vinegar, oxidized and well past it's prime, notes of butter, rotten weeds, brown sugar, and raw meat.
Taste...I would elaborate but I don't have much to add. It was strange, and past it's prime.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, grossly of rotten cherries and oxidized sugar water.
It was worth a shot. Perhaps a younger bottle would've faired differently.

Serving type: bottle

11-23-2007 21:32:56 | More by weeare138
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johnmichaelsen

Oregon

4.33/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Ah yes, another beer that has been retired that is anything but...

Hmmmm.... just now realized that this yet another red flanders beer.

The beer pours a chocolate brown color with hints of red. There is fair head retention and lacing. Yep, jeeze louizze, this definitely smells like a red flanders. I get the typical sweet and sour nose, with a notable ginger ale component. The beer actually smells pretty good. On the palate I'm surprised. This beer is quite delicious, with complex flavors of red wine, vanilla, chocolate and sour funk. The funk blends well with the moderate sweetness and the oak barrel aging has really toned down the sour component IMO. Hence, I'm liking this beer quite a bit. The beer is medium bodied and not the least bit heavy. The beer is remarkably drinkable for a red flanders with the 6.5% well disguised.

A very nice beer. Didn't recognize it on the beer list here at Max's and thought I'd give it a shot. Glad I did.

Serving type: bottle

04-14-2008 01:00:25 | More by johnmichaelsen
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Beerandraiderfan

Nevada

3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Ruddy brown and red colors comingling in a tulip glass, almost no head. Mild tartness in the aroma, toffee.

Good sour taste, impressed, sometimes flanders come off a little weak in that department, especially when they're relatively cheap and available like this one. Really a good introduction that isn't watered down or so pase its lame. Cherry is the most fruit specific flavor that exists in it. Gritty acidic tannin like qualities to it. Mild woody flavor. Enough sweetness to it to approach balance. Ultimately finishes dry.

Serving type: bottle

09-14-2011 02:51:07 | More by Beerandraiderfan
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beerthulhu

New Jersey

3.83/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Flemish red ale matured in oak barrels.

A: Poured a dark cola color with a thin dirty beige head.

S: On the nose was sour fruit (plums, apples) and a funky sour yeastiness.

T: The initial flavor was sour cherries, plums, grapes, with a big sour vinous palate and acidic bite. There was a noticeable alcohol presence with a sour grape juice notes and a slight underlying presence of maltiness as well. The beer finishes with a sour grape juice bite. The oakiness is hard to detect due to the sourness of this beer. Overall a good beer by style, the aroma is pungent with sour fruit (plums) but drinks much better then it smells

M: thin and light with a juice like texture and very soft carbonation.

D: Drinks much bigger then its advertised 6.5%. A good desert beer that would make for an ample substitution of red wine at any meal.

Serving type: bottle

07-09-2008 23:51:19 | More by beerthulhu
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DrJay

Massachusetts

3.73/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Slightly murky reddish brown with a thin cap of dark beige foam. The collar was a bit rocky with fine bubbles covering the beer. Light tartness in the aroma, berries and unripe fruits, a little earthy, very slightly acetic. Mild sourness with a bit of toffee amid the berry, cherry and red grape fruit flavours and the leafy earthiness. A bit more acidic in the finish as the other flavours faded. Medium to light bodied with lowish carbonation, a bit viscous. Easy drinking and probably a good introduction to the style for those not already into sour beers.

Serving type: bottle

12-29-2008 01:00:46 | More by DrJay
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glid02

Georgia

4.1/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Got this on-tap from BSP in Atlanta.

Pours a clear dark ruby color with a one-finger white head that seems to have an orange tint. The head recedes into a thin layer of bubbles on top and a medium-sized ring around the glass. There's not much lacing.

Smells good. There's a good fruity aroma, lots of berries. There are also slight tart and earthy smells.

Tastes good as well. Lots of sweet fruit flavors up front that are followed by a good amount of sourness and a dry finish. There's a mild oak flavor that pokes through every now and then as well.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a good thickness to go with lively carbonation.

Drinkability is very good. I had no problem finishing this glass and would've gladly had another.

Overall I was impressed. I'm just now getting into sours, but I was a fan of the way none of the flavors were too overpowering in this beer. Certainly worth a shot.

Serving type: on-tap

10-13-2008 02:49:27 | More by glid02
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JohnGalt1

Idaho

4/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330 ml bottle picked up at the Coop today for about $4.50.. poured into my New Belgium snifter... I was very stoked to have Matt show me this one... big thanks.

2 finger lite tan head drops leaving nice sticky lacing.. the brew is a hazy dark brown with nice ruby highlites.

aroma is sweet and mildy vinous .. subtle acetic notes but they are understated when compared to many in this style... wood is there.. smells tannic.. sorta like a wine and vinegar soaked fresh oak sawdust.

Flavor is surprising.. not nearly as sweet as the nose... also no where near as sour as the aroma would lead. Palate is very understated, which actually adds years to the immediate drinkablity.. for the most part it is mainly pale malts with a little bit of toastiness that moves quickly into the sour portion that finishes with an oaky dryness... a tying cherry fruitiness binds everything together from front to back... no oxidation that I can detect.. lite/medium body makes me really want another sip.

This is a perfect Flanders Red for the person who has never tried one and still wants to expand their horizons.

I applaud the COOP and Matt and Ashton for honestly getting in some truly unique beers into the market recently and especially in the last year.. Cheers to expanding Boise's palate.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2008 06:53:12 | More by JohnGalt1
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Georgiabeer

Georgia

3.3/5  rDev -12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured a murky reddish brown with a thin head. Sweet fruity aromas followed by a dose of lightly acetic sourness. More sweeet than sour, but only slightly. There is also a slight vegetal aroma and some dusty smelling fruit. The taste is a little light, and once again more on the sweet than the sour side. Still, none of the unpleasant vegetal odors manifest in th taste at all. Mouthfeel is very fizzy, a little too much so. Overall, this beer is a little too sweet for the style for my taste and a bit out of balance. Not bad, but there are a number of better options.

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2008 19:09:47 | More by Georgiabeer
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dbrauneis

North Carolina

3.9/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best by November 2016

A: Pours a semi-opaque dark reddish brown in color with some very significant garnet red highlights when held up to the light. The beer has a finger tall creamy looking light tan head that reduces to a patch of very thin film with a much thicker ring at the edges of the glass. Significant lacing is observed.

S: There are light vinous notes as well as just a touch of sourness in the aroma.

T: This beer is both complex and well balanced, as well as delicious. There are flavors of sour black cherries, oak barrels, as well as some vinous notes. The flavors start out subtly sweet which then turns to light sourness.

M: Light bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. The tartness makes this feel a little prickly on the tongue.

O: Very enjoyable and extremely easy to drink, this beer is not as tart/sour than some of the others in the style. This beer is very approachable and definitely one that I would like to enjoy again.

Serving type: bottle

05-11-2012 21:20:16 | More by dbrauneis
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ccrida

Oregon

3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in the Strubbe's tall Ichtegem tulip, Ichtegem's Grand Cru is a chill hazed dull brown head that leaves scattered foam. The featured brewery of the month at La Trappe in San Francisco, it's a brewery I've always wanted to try but have never been seen available in Oregon (or PA, where I used to live).

Smell is maltly, coconut, slightly acidic, vinous. Unmistakably Flanders Red. A little subdued, but it was very nice, and the more I savored the bottle, the more I appreciated the aroma.

Taste is pretty smooth for the style, with very little tartness. Oaky and vinous, some coconut and vanilla notes, light solvents, hints of red wine vinegar. Clean overall, a great crossover beer for red wine drinkers that would be turned off by increased sourness.

Mouthfeel is dry and slick, medium light body, there's a bit of a dry chalkiness as well.

Drinkability is pretty good, but frankly I prefer more acidity. Just had Rodenbach's Grand Cru last night so I've got a very fresh impression for comparison, and prefer that for sure. Still it's not bad, exceptionally smooth.

Serving type: bottle

03-26-2009 21:19:22 | More by ccrida
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largadeer

California

4/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Draft at Gourmet Haus Staudt.

Murky, yeasty brown with a ruby tint. Aggressively foamy, pouring this is a challenge, but the head is dense and lasting.

The nose is mineral, acetic, quite fruity. Metallic and vinegar aromas meet cherry-like fruitiness. There's some funk and earth, too, and just a touch toasted malt sweetness.

It's subdued on the tongue, not terribly sour but rounded. Very vinous, white wine vinegar flavors hit the palate first. Mild acetic acid, mineral and oak, bit of a metallic twang mid-palate. The body is thin, carbonation surprisingly not excessive; guess most of it went to the head. Finishes with a mild metallic twang, some balsamic-like acetic acid and light oak tannins. Pretty nice stuff, easy to quaff or sit down and ponder for a while.

Serving type: on-tap

02-03-2011 01:32:47 | More by largadeer
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bluejacket74

Ohio

3.58/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle, cap stamped with 29-09-2014. Served in a snifter, the beer pours a reddish/brown color with about a half inch off-white head that went away pretty quickly. There's a small amount of lacing left on the glass. Aroma is vinegar, tart apples and cherries, and some wood. However, the flavor isn't very tart at all. I can taste tart apples and cherries and vinegar, but there's also a lot of caramel malt and sweet dark fruit noticable. Don't get me wrong, I like the taste of this beer but the tartness isn't even close to what I expected. The taste is sweeter than the aroma would lead you to believe. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a little bit coating with moderate carbonation. Drinkability is decent enough. I think it's a decent brew, but if you're looking for something sour I don't think this is the best choice.

Serving type: bottle

09-02-2010 23:02:53 | More by bluejacket74
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DefenCorps

Oregon

3.3/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle, picked up at State Line in Elkton. Date on cap says "08-2010", so i guess this bottle has another two years to go. Into my Defiant tulip

A: Pours a very deep red (almost reddish-brown) with a solid two-finger head. Holding it against a strong light reveals plenty of carbonation and a beer of considerable clarity.

S: Sour with some acetic notes with a pronounced oaky sweetness with plenty almost raw oaky vanilla character. The sweetness in this beer is very woody in nature and quite appealing. In the grander scheme of things, this one's among the less sour of the Flemish Reds but not everything can be a La Folie or Ommegang Rouge.

T: Starts off with a surprisingly sour character with some vinegar and oak and a palm sugar like sweetness. On swallowing, however, this beer becomes quite, uh, strange with some almost rotting meat-like flavor and a mildly tannic, dry finish.

M: Fairly light in body with pretty good carbonation and a nice dry finish (maybe a tad watery) but the strange flavor on the finish is off-putting.

D: This is fairly easy to drink, at least until you swallow this beer. I'm not sure I'll finish it, probably let it sit for an hour before i continue drinking

Serving type: bottle

11-08-2008 19:48:43 | More by DefenCorps
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flagmantho

Washington

4.15/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 330mL bottle into a pint glass.

Appearance: deep amber-brown hue with a little haze and two fingers of nice tan head. Looks promising.

Smell: sour, woody aroma atop a slightly sweet, caramel malt. A very nice aroma, if not otherwise complex.

Taste: right in line with the aroma; it's tasty and well-crafted. A nice medium sourness fills out a caramel malt flavor that has hints of the wood in which it has been aged. Straightforward and tasty.

Mouthfeel: there's a little astringency due to the acidity, but the creaminess of well-integrated carbonation comes through very well in the medium body. Fantastic.

Drinkability: I love the refreshing characteristics of sour ales. Ichtegem's Grand Cru is a solid, refreshing, tasty Flanders red that I could probably drink all day.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2010 20:33:56 | More by flagmantho
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bark

Sweden

4.25/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The colour is deep wine-red with a tint of brown. The very high foam is pale brown with a paler edge. It sinks slowly into a two finger firm compact uneven head, leaving some lacing.

The smell is tart with lots of red wine-like flavours. Some vinegar, some dried fruits. Hints of raisins, yeast and a fragile touch of oak wood.

The taste is first a bit fruity and sweet, but those notes are quickly replaced with cask matured tart flavours of cherries, sweet fruit candy, hints of red vinegar and minerals. The aftertaste got very mild earthy/yeasty flavours, some quickly passing alcohol and a long lasting dry taste of fresh cherries.

The carbonation is strong, but a the same time light and highly refreshing; lots of large bubbles. The liquid is smooth and light to the tongue.

This beer might not be the most complex in its style, but it is a very refreshing and highly drinkable beer. I enjoyed it.

Serving type: bottle

07-16-2008 16:50:36 | More by bark
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LiquidAmber

Washington

4/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Older refrigerated bottle,2009, poured into a Nostradamus flute glass. Pours a dark mahogany amber with red tints. Half finger light tan head with good retention and lacing, looks nice. Aroma of cherry, light fruit, wood, lightly vinegar and sour. Flavor is sour and acidic, but balanced by a cherry flavored sweetness. Medium bodied with some creaminess. Nice interaction of the sour and sweet. I do not favor sour beers but this one works quite nicely for me. Worth a periodic revisit. Older refrigerated bottle, probably from 2009.

Serving type: bottle

02-10-2012 05:15:18 | More by LiquidAmber
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jrallen34

Illinois

3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

33cl bottle into my Rodenbach Grand Cru tulip...Pours a murky brown with light red highlights, a light tan head rises about a one finger gone quickly to a whispy covering...The aroma is light but brings about some nice flemish red characteristics of some nice balsamic vinegar, light oak, both in a sweet way, a much lighter but similar smell to the Rodenbach Grand Cru...The taste is decent, not as good as the aroma as most of the vinegar fades and you get mostly a lot of oak. Light candy sugar too, the lack of vinegar disappoints...The feel is on the lighter side, decent to drink.

This is an above average flemish fed, worth trying to get different taste than the top two in this style but clearly a notch below.

Serving type: bottle

07-25-2010 02:18:54 | More by jrallen34
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dgilks

Australia

3.73/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Hazy red colour with a small, light tan head. Disappointing but still acceptable.

Moderate tart, funky aroma. Slightly fruity with the cherry pie notes I like in a Flander's Red. Decent.

The flavour disappoints as it is a touch too sweet and lacks the tart, funky kick of, say, Rodenbach. There is some background fruitiness and a hint of tartness.

Medium-light body with moderate carbonation. Good.

A middle of the road Flander's Red. The punchy flavours of Rodenbach Grand Cru are not to be found but the overall flavour is okay.

Serving type: bottle

10-10-2010 09:20:30 | More by dgilks
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drpimento

Wisconsin

3.43/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served with very little head and no lace. Color is a dark, cloudy brown with some reddish highlights. Maybe a little light struck: some burnt rubber/skunk. Flavor's not quite as skunky as aroma and I get some of the nice tart malt with fruit in the background. Had another bottle of this here recently and it was much better - no skunk. Good mouth and carbonation. Skunk's gone at the end. Good finish. No sense of the alcohol at all. I'd try another

Serving type: bottle

07-28-2009 03:50:58 | More by drpimento
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Alieniloquium

Florida

3.33/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle poured into an RR -tion glass. Best by 2015, I think, but it's smudged.

Appearance - Dark ruby brown body with an ample two-finger head of off-white foam. Excellent lacing. Really nice lacing.

Smell - Sweet malts and oak are most predominant. Hardly any tart aromas. Cherry, I suppose, but it's not a sour cherry.

Taste - Much more acidic than the aroma implies. Harsh acidic red wine vinegar. Oak all over, too. Finishes just a touch sweet.

Mouthfeel - Harsh on the palate. The flavors aren't bad, but the mouthfeel is unpleasant. Very acidic and vinegary. Highly carbonated.

Overall - It's harsh and too oaky. The flavors aren't inherently bad, but the feel just cancels out all benefits.

Serving type: bottle

05-12-2012 01:21:08 | More by Alieniloquium
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alexgash

Connecticut

4/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

33 cl bottle with no date. Served at cellar temperature in a tulip glass.

Muddy cherry cola brown body with ruby highlights. Frothy, rocky, lacy, dirty khaki head. Tart cherry leads the nose with balsamic vinegar, currants, licorice, shoe leather, and sugary cherry juice behind.

Earthy, mushy fruit malt up front. Metallic cherry tartness cuts in. Slightly sugary fruit malt in the background. Some oak and vanilla before tartness and balsamic vinegar take over. Lingering cherry tartness and faint sweetness. Fruit skins in the finish. Nice. Different. I need to start drinking more Flanders Red Ales!

Serving type: bottle

03-14-2008 23:45:19 | More by alexgash
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Brenden

Ohio

4.03/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It's true that I need more experience with the style, but I think I know the guidelines, at least.

It's sort of a thick and hazy beer, and the color isn't so much a red-brown as brown-red. A big, fluffy off-qhite head stands for a good, long time, barely diminishing below two fingers for quite a while and remaining even as the beer is being drunk. It sticks around like a creamy pillow before eventually settling to a layer that deposits patchy lacing that continues to spread out in legging as it goes.
Tart and sour on the nose, this is a solid standard-setter as I understand it. Just a touch of vinegar-like funk is unoffensive and deep. Light alcohol notes just sneak out.
Plenty tart and sour, it's short of puckering but plenty flavorful. It's got lots of it, giving the impression of underripe fruits that have somehow full developed their flavor. A creamy sort of vanilla sweetness underlies it and balances very nicely. An easy sipper that's not too sour but doesn't stray, I could have several of these easily.
The body is light a fairly robust red wine with a light fizz to it. It's got a solid depth to it and flows very nicely. It has a pretty easy finish.

Serving type: on-tap

05-09-2013 15:32:58 | More by Brenden
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ArrogantB

Colorado

3.95/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Super-dark, brown with red tints if you hold it up to the light. It smells pretty good, like sour vinegar and then sweet. The taste is slightly sour, very easy to drink. This is not nearly as intense as some of the other flemish red's like La folie or La Roja. Thanks to RBlWthaCoz for this interesting brew.

Serving type: bottle

09-10-2008 02:04:43 | More by ArrogantB
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puboflyons

New Hampshire

3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

From the 330 ml. bottle with a bottle cap stamped 15:20/1703-25APRIL17. Sampled on December 19, 2012 and served at about 50 degrees.

It pours a very heady, dark amber with some ruby red hues when held to the light.

The aroma is sour, no question about it. But in more detail there are esters of wood, pale malts, cherry, and butter.

The body falls into the medium range with some astringency.

As far as the taste goes this is definitely a sour ale with notes of cherry and a low but lingering bitterness. I will admit that sours are not top on my list of styles but this one was not bad.

Serving type: bottle

12-20-2012 00:37:54 | More by puboflyons
Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
85 out of 100 based on 407 ratings.