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Ichtegem's Grand Cru - Brouwerij Strubbe

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Ratings: 479
Reviews: 237
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 12.2%
Wants: 21
Gots: 32 | FT: 1
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Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: audiojon on 05-07-2006

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.45/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours, yep, a deep red colour with decent clarity. Head is a very fine bubbled number, white with a very slight pinkish or orange tinge to it. The head is lovely and fine, almost creamy. I've had fewer better heads out of a bottle, although it does dissipate to a film reasonably quickly, which is a shame.

Nose is pleasantly oaky, with a good acidic vinous character coming through, but balanced with a light vanilla sweetness, also possibly from the oak. Cherry kirsch and a pronounced woody note. Overall, damn, it's spot on for the style, and I love how tempered the potential acidity is.

Taste is a little thinner than the best examples, and not only does it not have the body, it lacks the potent acidity which goes along with that to cut through it. But overall, that just weakens the entire beer. Some lightly sweet almost candi sugar character throughout, with a very slight cherry note, and a whiff of oak that may well just be remaining from the nose. Vanilla character comes forward on the back, but it's more unpleasant on the palate without the acidity to balance it.

Feel is thin, and it matches with the lack of character on the palate.

It's a shame, because this beer promised a lot. But it eventually revealed itself as a pale imitation of the greats. It's not bad, and it's a tasty Belgian ale, but the style is so much better than this example would have you believe.

Photo of brentk56
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a mahogany color with ruby highlights and a very modest head that lays a film down atop the liquid; just a few dots of lace

Smell: A hint of tart cherry but rather non-descript

Taste: Cherry juice, up front, with slightly more sweetness than tartness; a bit of funk after the swallow but, like the aroma, rather non-descript

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: Easy to drink but far from the top of the class for this style

Photo of johncampbell
3.88/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First of all, I've never had a Flemish Red that I didn't like, just some that I like better than others. This isn't my favorite, but taking into account that it's an Oud Bruin and not as tart or ripe as I prefer, it's still pretty good.

It poured a dark, murky brown with a faint hint of red when held to the light, more brown than anything. It maintained a thin, creamy-white head with a small amount of lacing.

It has a sweet, browned butter smell and not nearly enough funk, but a hint of oak and age and fruitiness.

It has a nice tart fruity flavor, but lacks the bite behind the ears that I like so much from a sour. Perhaps the age knocks out the bite? It has a nice tart cherry flavor with a hint of woody/roastiness, but more pucker would be perfect.

It has a creamy mouthfeel, but thin, medium-bodied at best, with subtle, but adequate carbonation. Not bad.

I will drink another.

and another.

Photo of cb462
1.88/5  rDev -50.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Let me start by saying that I love Flemish ales. But this really lacks everything that I enjoy about a nice flemish ale. If you are new to the flemish style, I strongly urge you stay away from this, and go for a Rodenbach Grand Cru-not necessarily the best flanders, but at around $10 for a 750ml, and being relatively common, it is a far better introduction to the style, given the price.

A- Not a horrible pour. Color is actually a fairly attractive rusty brown color. Poured with very little head, which dissipated quickly and provided almost no lacing.

S- Not a lot going on here. Very light tart canned cherry, with a slight sugary pie crust finish. Overall, dominated by vinegar. I'm not opposed to a strong vinegar note, as long as it is accompanied by other complexities, but this isn't balanced at all. Had to aerate the shit out of it to get any distinguishing notes.

T- Wow-disappointing to say the least. Water down notes in the smell, and you have the taste.

M- Overly watery. Light bodied and disappointing.

D- Really disappointing. I wouldn't buy it again, and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Like I said before, if you would like a baseline for a decent flemish, grab a Rodenbach Grand Cru. For a nice complex oud bruin, grab a Haandbakk.

Photo of dgilks
3.73/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Hazy red colour with a small, light tan head. Disappointing but still acceptable.

Moderate tart, funky aroma. Slightly fruity with the cherry pie notes I like in a Flander's Red. Decent.

The flavour disappoints as it is a touch too sweet and lacks the tart, funky kick of, say, Rodenbach. There is some background fruitiness and a hint of tartness.

Medium-light body with moderate carbonation. Good.

A middle of the road Flander's Red. The punchy flavours of Rodenbach Grand Cru are not to be found but the overall flavour is okay.

Photo of busternuggz
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 11.2 oz bottle into a Belgian glass.
Very dark reddish brown color with a 1/4" frothy light brown head that settles to a thick film. The head easily comes back with a swirl. Leaves a little soapy lacing.
On the nose I smell strawberry preserves, a rich wine-like quality, a little oak, some black cherry. Pretty rich and inviting.
On the palate I get tart strawberry/raspberry, some vanilla and oak, and a very wine-like finish, a little earthy. There's a hint of pomegranate as it warms. Leaves a rich, dry, oaky aftertaste, makes me want to sit by a fire or something. Balances between sweet and tart notes well.
Nice texture, comes on velvety and quickly becomes light and dry, almost effervescent. I would like a tad less carbonation, but it's good.
Strikes a good balance on drinkability, with a fairly rich taste but a light body, pretty clean.
This is pretty tasty, a good example of the style. I would like a little more body and richness, but still quite good.

Photo of cooch69
3.9/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours a very deep mahogany that is semi transparent when held to the light.
It doesnt pour with much of a head.
The nose brings fourth sour vinigar but not to strong.
It's a pretty crisp and vibrant beer that has a subdued vinegar tone along with fruity flavours of apples and pears. It is not that strong compared to some Flemish's I've had, but it is still medium in body. It has a great clean maltiness that grabs hold after the sour fades.
All in all a good beer that I'm glad I picked up.

Photo of MrDanno96
4.08/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours fairly dark with hints of red - especially when held to light. Not much head or lacing.

S: The typical sour fruit aroma you would expect from this style.

T: Very pleasant - I get mostly sour grapes and raspberries, but not too sour. A good mix of sweet and sour acidity.

M: Light to medium and fairly smooth with a nice sour bite in the finish.

D: Very drinkable for the style, I think. Not TOO high in alcohol and not so sour that you want to stop after one.

Photo of airheadmtrcycle
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Opaque dark red with a thin white head. Lovely wine-like smell with a strong vinegar essence. Delicious sour flavor that does indeed taste like cherries. Nothing like cough syrup or fake cherry flavor. A little too sweet, but still very good. Medium carbonation that was highly drinkable which really surprised me. This is the first beer of this type that I've had and I am really impressed. My belly warmed with each swig I took.

Photo of bluejacket74
3.58/5  rDev -5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle, cap stamped with 29-09-2014. Served in a snifter, the beer pours a reddish/brown color with about a half inch off-white head that went away pretty quickly. There's a small amount of lacing left on the glass. Aroma is vinegar, tart apples and cherries, and some wood. However, the flavor isn't very tart at all. I can taste tart apples and cherries and vinegar, but there's also a lot of caramel malt and sweet dark fruit noticable. Don't get me wrong, I like the taste of this beer but the tartness isn't even close to what I expected. The taste is sweeter than the aroma would lead you to believe. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a little bit coating with moderate carbonation. Drinkability is decent enough. I think it's a decent brew, but if you're looking for something sour I don't think this is the best choice.

Photo of joshstevens87
4.03/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a chestnut red with a half inch light tan head
S-a bit of sharpness and fruits with a fresh woody tone
T-a nice bite offruit a bit of vinegar and very smooth
M-medium body with a low carbonation a very smooth feel
D-overall a great beer that may not be as strong as other beers but is extremely drinkable

Photo of dasenebler
3.58/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11oz. bottle, best by September 2014.

Pours a rich, dark, reddish brown with a creamy two-finger head. The lacing was good, the retention, average.

The aroma is vaguely tart, with a bit of metallic tang and fresh wood.

Light lactobacillus tartness along with a mellow, slightly buttery and milky flavor. Malts are present and add weight, but not much flavor. Kind of lacks personality, but to its credit, there is nothing off-putting about this beer. Hint of oak in the dry finish. The mouthfeel was the best part, I thought. It was creamy, with a fine, cascading carbonation. Drinkability is good given the lack of intensity and relatively low ABV, but my overall impression is that this beer is missing something.

Photo of LordAdmNelson
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Not a bad beer here, though not my favorite by far. Pours a nice ruby amber color with moderate sandy head. Smell is pretty normal for a Flanders Red Ale, though a but restrained. Lightly toasted malts with a hint of vinegar, some sweetness to it too. Taste follows, though the sour/vinegar flavors are really attenuated--I'm looking for a bit more out of this style of beer here. Drinks like a decent light brown ale, though I would have trouble picking it out as a Flanders. Dry on the finish, light and snappy. Decent drink, though I was looking for a bit more to this one.

Photo of rootbeerman
4.13/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured into my duvel tulip

A: pours deep reddish brown with an off white finger and a half head which fell to a thin layer, thick lacing.
S: sour slightly vinegary malt, with a woody fruity sweetness.
T: a great balance between sour and sweet. there is a tart cherry like sweetness. a light vinegar taste.
M: dry, yet the tartness lingers after each sip. low carbonation
D: wish a sixer or four pack was cheap, this is very good and a nice change from the normal american craft.

Photo of DoubleJ
3.63/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Let's sweet and sour it up. 330 ml bottle, on to the beer:

A surprising amount of good lacing is left on the glass of this orange brown colored beer. It's even smelling good too with the sweet carmel candies and tartness, plus a little vinigrette.

I'd call the flavor pretty good. The difference though is that the flavor seems to dissapear at times. Between the usual sweet and sour flavor is the addtion of pickle juice, which gives the beer a more bitter taste. Somewhat acidic. The body is a little smaller for the style, with just a little buzz from the carbonation.

Ichtegem's Grand Cru is a solid representation of the Flemish Red. Worth trying if you're into the style.

Photo of chefkevlar
4.03/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a beautiful deep garnet color with a 1/4 inch or so of tan colored head.

S: Very complex aroma with a mix of cherry, vinegar, raspberry, and a little bit of a funky backgroud

T: Complex just like the smell. I was told this was a sour beer and there is a hit of sour at first, but it fades quickly. Other than that I can taste cherry and raspberry, along with a bit of vinegar. It finishes with a little bit of a mineral taste.

M: Medium body with a moderate amount of carbonation. The carbonation is made of tiny bubbles which reminds me of champagne

D: This is not a beer that could be pounded down in large amounts, but it is very enjoyable to sip on a bottle or two at a time.

Photo of birchstick
3.9/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-tap at the 33 Wine Bar in St Louis

A - pours a dark ruby red / reddish brown without much of a head

S - smells very winey with some malts and a touch of sweet vinegar

T / M - the taste is a mix of some faint caramel malts with a lot of vinous fruits - it is very wine-like in its taste. It has some nice carbonation and a good body; it leaves the palate with a tannin-eqsue dryness.

D - For this style, this is a very approachable and drinkable beer. If you have a wino friend that is looking for a beer, this is the one to give them.

Photo of beerwolf77
3.08/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured into my duvel tulip from a bottle.

A: muddy cinnamon brown with two solid fingers of light beige head, Nice web of lace left behind

S: tart cherries mixed with caramel and brown sugar, hint of vanilla and maybe figs, trace of funk

T: inital sour punch is brief, this turns quickly into loads of caramel malt and then nothing, it's like a quarter of a beer, you get sour and malt then water, I suppose you could call that a clean finish. HA!

M: light and bubbly

D: Overall another clunker from the sour beer crew, I had high hopes for this one.

Photo of azorie
4.33/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

a: dark cola reddish brown with a small head as expected its oak aged.

s: red wine, malty, no hops, some sugar sweetness comes out as black cheery like vapors hit he nose. having a bad sinus day, I can taste it fine just not much hitting me nose, but then again nothing new there.

T: ah very nice and complex beer here, sweet malt and back cheery fruit with some red wine tannins like, some vinegar like sharpness, AKA that sour bite. I do not get any lactic favors myself. Very balanced sweet to sour, Its grand cru indeed. Since its oak aged there are no hops I can detect.

M: smooth, low carbonation, semi thick on the back of the mouth.

D: easy as hell to drink this one, its basically a duchesse de bourgogne, with more sweetness, hence the higher ABV.
recommended if you love sours, its really a OLD bruin not sure why they keep added them to the red category, sure it s that on the bottle, but then contradicts itself in the native dutch go figure, who cares right? we drink more its good.

Photo of Richardberg
3.25/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - poured into a tulip. Dark copper, very reddish when reflecting any amount of light. Fairly opaque but not hazy (no obvious bubbles or sediment in the way, just...hazy). Small head disappears quickly but leaves a little lacing.

S - balsamic vinegar, dark cherry, prune...yet a little bit of sweet caramel too

T - nicely tart up front but lacks backbone and/or auxiliary flavors

M - light body, not much in the way of carbonated zing either. Needs one or the other to bring it back to life.

D - decent sour. not interesting enough to pay import pricing.

Photo of jdense
3.83/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Belmont Station during Puckerfest, 7.15.2010, poured into Delirium Tremens taster snifter.

Deep red almost purple body, some carbonation rising from bottom of glass, very little lacing. Nose is dark fruit forward, dark cherries, no hops, a pretty dry nose despite the fruit character. Taste is cherries up front, tart and sweet, some hints of blackberries and concord grapes deep fruit flavor, minimal hops, and a wee bit of funk, some horseblanket funkiness on back end, a pretty complex tasting beer. Mouthfeel is fairly full for the style, a bit sticky, not a lot of effervescence. Pretty drinkable. More fruity than Rodenbach, IMO, wondering how the bottle version compares to this relatively rare keg.

Photo of jampics2
3.88/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap @ the Winking Lizard. This came out in a nice Strubbe tulip. Nice touch!

Cola brown with a small white crown. Looks amazing, nice lace and retention.

Smell is interesting. I expected more vinegar and sour smells, instead I get more of a sweet grape scent. The combination of the malt and Flanders funk have created a plum and grape jelly thing. Nice, different, and something unexpected.

Taste is really quite vineous. There's a sweetness then a flash of alcohol. Caramel malt. Mild sourness and Belgian presence from yeasty esters. Not your Dutchess' Grand Cru by any means. Cherry wine fades out as a touch of vinegar settles in. Finishes clean.

Mouthfeel is actually a touch flat for my tastes. Medium body. Nice but nothing ground breaking based on feel.

So, overall I enjoyed this. You have to be in the mood for something sweet, probably more so than with beers like the Dutchess or Rodenbach as there's less of the tart vinegar to balance things out. This was unique and I like beers that have distinctive qualities. I would buy this again in a heartbeat!

Photo of jrallen34
3.7/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

33cl bottle into my Rodenbach Grand Cru tulip...Pours a murky brown with light red highlights, a light tan head rises about a one finger gone quickly to a whispy covering...The aroma is light but brings about some nice flemish red characteristics of some nice balsamic vinegar, light oak, both in a sweet way, a much lighter but similar smell to the Rodenbach Grand Cru...The taste is decent, not as good as the aroma as most of the vinegar fades and you get mostly a lot of oak. Light candy sugar too, the lack of vinegar disappoints...The feel is on the lighter side, decent to drink.

This is an above average flemish fed, worth trying to get different taste than the top two in this style but clearly a notch below.

Photo of Naugros
3.83/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The color is a deep garnet with a hint of purple...but let's go with red...dark red. Not really much head to this one. I'm used to fighting throw a sea of foam to get at a Belgian beer. This one is a little more obliging.

Ah! I love that sour smell. This is sour and musty, like a kriek without the obvious cherry. Still, there is an impression of dark fruit...perhaps even dark cherries.

The taste does have sour, but it's not as puckeringly sour as a lambic. Yes, I made up a word. Rather than sour I might consider using the word tangy. Plums or prunes dominate the fruit component of the taste and there's some candy sweetness on the tongue. The tang gets you at the back of the palate.

If you want a good entrance into the world of sour beers, this could be a good intermediate step. It doesn't overwhelm you with sour. The fruit sweetness might be a bit much, but it's not really cloying. The body is nice, but there are times when the tang reads as metallic on the tip of the tongue and the lips. Maybe it's something that was on my lips prior to my first sip.

Photo of bskrtz
3.48/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served cold -- 11.2 ounce bottle to Abbey style open beer chalice

A) Belgian Dubbel clone, cloudy milk chocolate color ale. Very dense -- you cannot see through this stuff

S) Candy-sweet, fruity licorice, sour dough

T) Sour sweet malt, root beer, apple cider, tart

M) Bottle conditioned effervescent fizz. Holds carbonation well

D)This is not my favorite style, however Ichtegem is an excellent example of the style. Those who like Flemish Ale will surely enjoy this one.

Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
85 out of 100 based on 479 ratings.