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Ichtegem's Grand Cru - Brouwerij Strubbe

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Ichtegem's Grand CruIchtegem's Grand Cru

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BA SCORE
85
very good

445 Ratings
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Ratings: 445
Reviews: 232
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 12.47%
Wants: 16
Gots: 24 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Strubbe visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: audiojon on 05-07-2006)
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Photo of WesWes
4.1/5  rDev +8.8%

The beer pours a dark brown color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is great. It has a subtle sourness that yields to the oak barrel aroma. It's well rounded with crystal and roasted malts; very nice. The taste is good. It has a subdued sour flavor that really works well with the oak aging. It's mellowed out and thus increases the drinkability. The malt content consists of some pale and roasted malts. It's doesn't appear to be too sweet. On the contrary, it's dry and quite light in the mouthfeel. It's a medium bodied beer with adequate/good carbonation. This is a very enjoyable beer. I love the oak contribution. It tames the sourness to a level that most would enjoy.

WesWes, Feb 14, 2008
Photo of ZimZamZoom
4.1/5  rDev +8.8%

Poured an 11.2 oz. bottle into a tulip. A deep ruby brown color with a nice fluffy tan head. About a finger's worth of head, tight bubbled and clinging nicely to the glass.

Aroma is a sour oakiness with sweet toasted malt in the background. A very pleasant blend of sweet and sour, with the sour owning my olfactory glands at first and the sweetness just slithering through quietly. The oak aging is very evident here, and adds another aspect to the mix. Yes I've been smelling this for about ten minutes so far and have not taken a sip.

The taste is all about the sour funk. Sour fruitiness, with some sweetness as well and no bitterness in the end just a long dry sour finish. Did I mention this is sour? Some of the toasted oak is coming through at times and it adds a nice complexity, but I do not get the same balance and complexity that the aroma promises.

This is my first formal review of this style and only my second tasting of it. I am learning a great deal and enjoying every bit of it.

This Flanders Red is not heavy at all, and it does leave the mouth dry. A nice sipper though with some wine like qualities that one would not expect in a relatively low ABV beer.

ZimZamZoom, Feb 10, 2008
Photo of Georgiabeer
3.3/5  rDev -12.5%

Poured a murky reddish brown with a thin head. Sweet fruity aromas followed by a dose of lightly acetic sourness. More sweeet than sour, but only slightly. There is also a slight vegetal aroma and some dusty smelling fruit. The taste is a little light, and once again more on the sweet than the sour side. Still, none of the unpleasant vegetal odors manifest in th taste at all. Mouthfeel is very fizzy, a little too much so. Overall, this beer is a little too sweet for the style for my taste and a bit out of balance. Not bad, but there are a number of better options.

Georgiabeer, Jan 29, 2008
Photo of khiasmus
3.43/5  rDev -9%

A- Clear, dark brown with a minimal amount of soapy head.

S- A bit sour, some yeast, bread, fermented cherries, a hint of alcohol, and oak.

T- Fermented oak, vinegar, metal. The metal tends to override the finish: The whole thing is much less complex, or even flavorful, than I expected.

M- A bit thin, watery, medium carbonation, with a long, sour, dry finish.

D- Easy to drink, but sadly nothing special. disappointing.

khiasmus, Jan 18, 2008
Photo of shadow1961
3.7/5  rDev -1.9%

I dunno why it says this thing is retired- it's brand new
to me and just showed up in the past couple of weeks
at Westside Liquor. Oh well.

Ichtegem's Grand Cru, a Flemish Red Ale, pours a couple
fingers of dense foam over what is, held up to the light, a
clear deep ruby brew. Carbonation is steady, and the nose
is fruity, vinous, and a bit funky. The flavor is malty and fruity-
a little like apple, with a bit of herbal hop in the finish. Mouthfeel
is tart and crisp, with a dry vanilla finish. Not as nearly as sour as I've
been given the style can be, this one is still quite drinkable and
complex. Worth a try.

shadow1961, Jan 04, 2008
Photo of tempest
4.13/5  rDev +9.5%

To the uninitiated, this can be a pretty funky beer. Having tried many Flanders Reds, however, I can say this is a nice, mellower than usual version of the style. In that sense it allows you to enjoy the flavors of crisp tang, mild oak, and light caramel barley instead of being overwhelmed by the sour funk.

Maybe it's just a sour ale for beginners, but I liked it.

tempest, Dec 31, 2007
Photo of ntillemans
4.2/5  rDev +11.4%

750ml Bottle poured out into Duvel glasses.

A - A finger of head. And a dark brown tone...until held up to the light where it appears cherry red.

S - The smell set up my expectations for a classic Flemish sour ale or lambic...fruity and sour.

T - I wasn't sure about this one at first. It took a few sips for me to appreciate it. The aftertaste with the strong oak flavor made me think more of wine than beer at first. But the oak flavor shined and balanced out the sourness as I finished the glass.

M - A creamy mouthfeel with a some bite to thin it at the end.

D - I could have gone for another. The boldness of this one won me over after I got over the initial shock of it's peculiarity.

ntillemans, Dec 29, 2007
Photo of mikesgroove
4.03/5  rDev +6.9%

375ml bottle poured into a Snifter

A – Poured a very nice and hazy ruby tinted medium brown with a decent enough two inch head of off white frothy foam at the top. This settled down gently to a nice thin layer across with adequate side glass lacing throughout.

S – The aroma was rich and full of sour tones. There was a nice earthy grain quality to the background which melded with lots of sour fruit like smells and a nice tight bouquet of light alcohol. Very classic aroma for the style.

T – A wonderful and very full flavor this one was definitely a crowd pleaser. The first wave to hit me was a nice rich bitter sour puckered grape flavor. This was very full with a good amount of bite to it and a really nice freshness. Once it started to warm, some very nice sugary notes began to meld into it and form a very nice dark fruit like flavor that continued on into a very nice long lasting bitter dry finish. There was almost a wine like flavor capping it off, very good.

M – Very smooth and delicate, this light to medium bodied ale displayed more then adequate carbonation and a rich velvet like texture that really helped to showcase and bring forward the delicate flavors that were inside.

D – Very nice sipper. The flavors were very big and intense at first, but as it warmed it really started to mellow some and became a fine sipping sour ale. There was very low ABV so you had no trouble in polishing it off.

Overall this was a fine example of the style and really nice sour ale; I had not had one in a good while so this was a nice treat. Very nice presentation and aroma, and the flavor more then backed it up. I would gladly have another one of these any day.

mikesgroove, Dec 22, 2007
Photo of weeare138
2.1/5  rDev -44.3%

Thanks to Phatz for deciding to share this one. I've never seen this one before, so I was anxious to give it a shot...
Appears a reddish brown with a small tan head that slowly fades into a mild cap. Scattered bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of turkey gravy, vinegar, oxidized and well past it's prime, notes of butter, rotten weeds, brown sugar, and raw meat.
Taste...I would elaborate but I don't have much to add. It was strange, and past it's prime.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, grossly of rotten cherries and oxidized sugar water.
It was worth a shot. Perhaps a younger bottle would've faired differently.

weeare138, Nov 23, 2007
Photo of guinnessdoc
3.68/5  rDev -2.4%

Appearance: What originally seems to be a brown color is actually a burgundy with reddish-amber highlights. Not much in the way of a head but lacing does cling to the sides of my chalice.

Smell: A tart berry/cherry aroma with lots of buttery notes.

Taste: Some sourness but not as much as anticipated. The same buttery note is in the flavor as well as notes of oak, vinegar, and tart raspberries.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Carbonation is somewhat lacking.

Drinkability: Definitely has some interesting components and is very drinkable. However, it doesn't have as much in the way of sourness as others in the style.

guinnessdoc, Oct 31, 2007
Photo of Risser09
4.43/5  rDev +17.5%

Shared by Phatz at his terrific sour tasting.

Appearance: Transparent dark brown color with a nice tan head and plenty of bubbles. The lace is coating and sticky. Very nice to look at.

Smell: Buttery, funky, malty, barnyards, yeast, and balsamic vinegar. Very interesting and complex. Is this really a flanders red?

Taste: Amusing and arousingly complex. I get notes of coffee, toasted malt, sourness, balsamic vinegar, butter, woodiness and a strong coffee ice cream. Whether these flavors were intentional or not, they are strangely delicious to me. The other tasters were in disagreement, but I feel like the odd flavors are endearing.

Mouthfeel: Medium body that is smoothe and mildly alcoholic. Very fine bubbles make a fun carbonation.

Drinkability: Again, a strange mix of flavors and probably something you won't expect will come ou of the bottle. I'd love to get some more just to see how another bottle would compare. I found it to be delicious and quite drinkable. The buttery texture and flavor is fun in a sour beer.

Risser09, Oct 20, 2007
Photo of Phatz
3.43/5  rDev -9%

What a strange beer. A Flemish Red that is more creamy than sour. Odd.

Appearance: The look it terrific. It pours a dark garnet brown with absolutely loads of lacing plastering the walls of my glass like a curtain.

Smell: Sweet sugars, Belgian candy sugar, molasses toffee, and *browned butter*.

Taste: The most distracting flavor in the beer is this significant butteryness with a vinegar attribute as well and of course the wood flavors come though as expect in a barrel aged sour red. There is a dull cherry/sherry element and tasty touch of old fruit. Still the butterscotch is odd.

Mouthfeel: It is a rather smooth medium body with fine carbonation that slides across the palate. Average-ish.

Drinkability: I seemed to enjoy the opportunity to try this beer more than my friends did. It is not bad but certainly not something I am going to look for again either.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

Phatz, Oct 15, 2007
Photo of AndoBrew
3.25/5  rDev -13.8%

*did not mind would not buy*

app: looks more brown than red.. not great lookin.

smell: mild pepper some nice tart zing w/ a little bit of brown gravy.

taste: odd. some sort of chemical after taste. some sour, lots of thick almost blonde malts

mf: little to thick, needs more bubles.

drinkable?: needs more zing, its nice but it needs more sour power.

AndoBrew, Oct 04, 2007
Photo of brdc
4.03/5  rDev +6.9%

Small capped bottle, thanks to stousnipas.
This is an Oud Bruin, according to both taste and the bottle.
Beautiful burgundy, with shiny amber overtones, and a fluffy tan head that dissipates leaving an ever-lasting lace that coats the sides of the glass and the top of the beer all the way down.
Aroma is vinegary, sour, mildly malted and slightly smoked.
Light bodied, easy to drink, it has the expected taste, vinegary, malted, acidic and mildly bitter, with some minimal "roasted" notes.
Not spectacular, but quite interesting.

brdc, Oct 01, 2007
Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.58/5  rDev -5%

Appearance: Pours a dark, garnet-hued body with a thin, short-lived beige head.

Smell: Sharply acetic aroma with a vague, berry-like fruitiness. Hints of antique oak.

Taste: Flavor of sour cherries and red wine vinegar with subtle hints of wood and a pinch of salt. Very light yeastiness. Tart, fruity finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-thin body. Mild carbonation.

Drinkability: Yes sir, Itchy Gems makes a pretty fine Flanders Sour Ale.

ChainGangGuy, Sep 09, 2007
Photo of MaltyGoodness
3.63/5  rDev -3.7%

11.2oz bottle

Pours a rich chestnut brown with a vivid ruby hue. Small tan head recedes to the side of the glass, mild lacing.

Aroma is very tart with a distinct cherry fruity smell and some slight nutty and woody malt tones.

Puckering tartness immediately upfront that lasts the duration. Among the waves of tartness come fruity cherry, nutty, and woody flavors. Has a slightly sharp taste (metallic) at the finish as the tartness lingers.

Medium-full body, solid carbonation.

I really enjoy tart beers, and this one is no exception. It is quite complex and easy to drink, but falls slightly shy of greatness. Nonetheless, those who enjoy this style should certainly give this one a try.

MaltyGoodness, Aug 14, 2007
Photo of mep3222
3.48/5  rDev -7.7%

Had this on tap. The sourness was very unique. I was not a huge fan of the sourness of this beer. Most times I find the sourness to be appealing, but this one I thought actually tasted metalic, but after drinking more I do not think it was a metalic taste but a weird aftertase from the sourness. I didn't think it was all that great as a flanders red, balance was not there and the complexity that I usually find in Flanders Reds was severly lacking.

mep3222, Jul 08, 2007
Photo of Stimack
3.9/5  rDev +3.4%

Was able to give this brew a try last evening. It is a style I really like but very infrequently have so this was a treat. The brew was poured to a dark reddish color with a creamy head that was medium in size and left nice sheets of lacing down the side of the glass. Nice berry aroma, mostly cherry I believe along with a slight vinegar sourness that is subtle but noticeable. The taste is very smooth with a tart berry flavor, to me the berries come out more clearly here with raspberries, cherries, and maybe plum? Has a sourness to it but does not seem to be a pronounced as in some other Flanders red offerings. Over all I think that this is a nice offering, very tame beer based on the style which has its good points. I would get this brew again in the future.

Stimack, Mar 10, 2007
Photo of DarkerTheBetter
3.95/5  rDev +4.8%

I found this at Monk’s café.

This beer looks black in the dark back bar at Monk’s, but when held to the light, it glows a lovely burgundy. The head consists of a creamy collar that left a slight bit of lace.

Smells of a tart dry raspberry and cherry with a faint dry banana. I’m also getting a hint of rye. Sadly, it’s also slightly metallic.

Tastes of tart raspberries and cherries that fades to dry with a little sour milk, oak and an almost Bret-like sourness.

The mouth feel is light to medium bodied with a thickening micro bubble.

This sourness of this one is unique. Try it if you like the style for sure.

DarkerTheBetter, Aug 21, 2006
Photo of audiojon
3.8/5  rDev +0.8%

I'm a big fan of Flemish Reds, so when I saw that O'Brien's had a new one on tap this week, I had to try it. This was labeled as "Grand Cru," oddly enough. The bartender cleared that up for me and described as being similar to the Duchesse de Bourgogne but not as in your face. Unfortunately, I wish this were a bit more in your face; as it is it's a bit boring, but very enjoyable. In other words, I've had better Flemish Reds, but this is still a good beer. Def worth a try, and would make a very good introductory beer for those wanting to cross over to the dark (sour) side.

As for an actual review:

Smell is pretty non existant, not as much funk as I like. Taste is very good, only a light sourness unfortunately (I like to pucker), but it tastes great regardless of the sourness (or lack thereof). I could probably drink this all afternoon, and in fact may do just that. :)

audiojon, May 07, 2006
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Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
85 out of 100 based on 445 ratings.