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Ichtegem's Grand Cru - Brouwerij Strubbe

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Reviews: 245
Hads: 525
rAvg: 3.71
pDev: 11.59%
Wants: 25
Gots: 43 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Photo of Rutager
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance. Pours a deep amber brown with over a finger of off white head that lasts a while and leaves some decent lace.

Smell. Cherries, fruity belgian yeast and spice, and a bit of dank old wood.

Taste. Sweet cherries, a small dash of raspberry vinegar, a little bit woody and a slight bitterness.

Mouthfeel. Medium body with medium, lively and fine carbonation. A little bit sticky.

Overall. A bit too sweet for me. Tasted good but I won't be in a hurry to drink it again. (481 characters)

Photo of MaltyGoodness
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle

Pours a rich chestnut brown with a vivid ruby hue. Small tan head recedes to the side of the glass, mild lacing.

Aroma is very tart with a distinct cherry fruity smell and some slight nutty and woody malt tones.

Puckering tartness immediately upfront that lasts the duration. Among the waves of tartness come fruity cherry, nutty, and woody flavors. Has a slightly sharp taste (metallic) at the finish as the tartness lingers.

Medium-full body, solid carbonation.

I really enjoy tart beers, and this one is no exception. It is quite complex and easy to drink, but falls slightly shy of greatness. Nonetheless, those who enjoy this style should certainly give this one a try. (703 characters)

Photo of sweemzander
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

11.2oz bottle poured into a tulip. Thanks to JAHMUR for this extra! Best by 04-05-2016.

(A)- Pours a dark mahogany color. Produced a large frothy/fluffy tan colored head. Great retention and tons of lace all over.

(S)- A deep bready yeast full with bits of cherry and a thick woody oak. Tiny hints at a barnyard-like funk/vinegar.

(T)- Mildly tart. Some vinegar notes with cherry, sharp oak, and a mildly yeasty but bitter finish. Thin.

(M)- A mellow carbonation level. A surprisingly thin mouthfeel overall despite the thick head and robust/complex aroma. Rather mild as well overall.

(D)- A solid flanders. The taste and feel were a bit of a letdown when the appearance and smell were great, but this is still quite and enjoyable beer nonetheless. (754 characters)

Photo of jayhawk73
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark reddish color with a one finger cocoa head. Excellent lacing on my snifter glass. Very dark and impossible to see through. The nose is nice- sour fruit, some grain, cherry, plum, and slight alcohol in the background. The taste is nice and tart, with some funk, sour fruit, and a definite bite to the aftertaste. Not quite as complex as I'd hoped, and a little on the sweet side for the style. Still, not shabby at all. Overall, this is a good brew for the style, but you can find better. Cheers. (508 characters)

Photo of DoubleJ
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Let's sweet and sour it up. 330 ml bottle, on to the beer:

A surprising amount of good lacing is left on the glass of this orange brown colored beer. It's even smelling good too with the sweet carmel candies and tartness, plus a little vinigrette.

I'd call the flavor pretty good. The difference though is that the flavor seems to dissapear at times. Between the usual sweet and sour flavor is the addtion of pickle juice, which gives the beer a more bitter taste. Somewhat acidic. The body is a little smaller for the style, with just a little buzz from the carbonation.

Ichtegem's Grand Cru is a solid representation of the Flemish Red. Worth trying if you're into the style. (682 characters)

Photo of CoolJosh
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A Very hazy amber with a hint of brown and a slight bit of orange. Pours a 2 finger head that quickly falls to half a finger of highly carbonated topping.

S Tons of dark grapes, almost smells like a red wine. some green apples arise in the nose, and provides a very tart scent, ripe scent.

T Starts off very sweet and slow, and a blast of cherry, green apples, dark grapes, some ripe bananas, and a very small amount of chocolate malts come through. As i've seen with most grand crus, there is a very sudden drop as the sip nears end. The grape stays in the mouth as an after taste. Way over carbonated.

All in all, I'm starting to enjoy Grand cru's, and I found this one to be a little rougher then some of the others I have tried recently. I'm not sure how Grand Cru's age, but I'm thinking that with a year or two some of the tart and bitter flavors would mellow out a bit. (881 characters)

Photo of snaotheus
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle poured into a pair of snifters

Pours dingy reddish brown with a dirty dishwater head that fades quickly. Smell is nice, sour, and fruity.

Taste sweet and fruity and moderately sour, a little nondescript.

Mouthfeel is slightly dry, fairly light. Overall, it's not bad, but it's no Rodenbach Grand Cru. (316 characters)

Photo of spoony
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

From an 11.2 oz bottle into a tulip. Best by date on the cap says 25 April 2017.

A-The brew is a dark cola color with only the slightest hint of ruby colors. There is a healthy, pillowy, tan head (two-fingers, at least) that really sticks around. Visible carbonation keeps a cap of head on the beer and leaves quite a bit of lace on the glass.

S-The smell is typical oud bruin...sour, funky cherries with a pretty big whiff of sweet vinegar and candied lemon. Just a bit of oak to be found.

T-The taste is tart, but not mouth-puckering. You get a little oak, but the predominant flavor is a sweet, slightly malty, light cherry flavor. There is just a bit of funk as the beer warms up.

M-Carbonation is pretty fine, but noticeable on the palate. The brew is medium bodied.

O-This is not the best oud bruin I've had, it lacked complexity and punch on the tongue, and it was a touch over-carbonated for the style; but a little more sour-power and this thing might move up a few notches. That being said, the appearance and aroma were pleasing. (1,045 characters)

Photo of constantine_272
3.63/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

L: Nice brownish color. Slightly transparent. Low head that reseeded quickly.

S: Black cherry and some strawberry. A touch of cedar.

T: Tastes like it smells with blacks cherry. Except here its a bit more extreme. Sweets are sweeter and sour is sharper. A little too fruit juicy with some red grape, red apple and ripe pear notes. Finishes somewhat crisp and sharp but the sweetness does not yield.

M: Light, and goes down really easy. Again too sweet which leaves a candy feeling after a while.

O: It's got some nice flavors but too sweet. It could have used a little bit more sharpness to finish it. Somewhat lacks the complexity of other oud bruins. (657 characters)

Photo of flannelman808
3.63/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a: this one is a deep dark brown red color. Its dark in color but relatively clear. Off white head tops this beer and it has rather large bubbles.

S: Smells of tart cherry and peppery funk. I feel like I smell a little bit of a herbaceous grassy funk.

T: Far more mild then I would have guessed... mild cherry (not so much tart cherry) and spiced syrupy quality. There is a fair amount of sweetness here but not cloying.

M: effervescent and prickly, but a little oil slicky...

D: pretty darn drinkable for the style... the modest flavors allow for a fair amount of consumption. (581 characters)

Photo of craftbeersweden
3.62/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Clear red-brown beer with a thin head.

Nose: Tart, cherry, oak, red apple, vinegar and pear.
Taste: Cerry, tart, oak, sourness, sweet apple, grape, blackberries and bread.
Body: Medium body with a crisp carbonation. Pretty sweet but the sourness balance the beer.

Very good Grand Cru from Ichtegems with complex, balanced taste. A little to sweet for me. I think I put my remaining bottle on hold for a few years and let it mature :) (440 characters)

Photo of chaz01
3.62/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On draught at Chappy's TapHouse, served into a snifter glass. I should point that I'm pretty much a novice to "sours" beer, but will do my best to rate the beer objectively.

A: This beer appeared to be brown and opaque (although there wasn't much light in the bar) with a nice grey head that leaves some lacing.

S: Fresh fruit in the aroma -- apples, pears, definitely some limes along with some brandy notes.

T: A gentle fruity tartness in the taste that instantly reminded me of something although I couldn't figure out what it was -- until it hit me -- this beer tasted a lot like a margarita (and on Cinco de mayo yet!), especially in the finish. The more I drank the more convinced I was that outside the appearance, it could pass for a margarita.

M: Creamy mouthfeel, medium bodied, little carbonation and a tart finish.

D: Easy to drink -- given my analogy above to a margarita, this would be a nice beer to have as a cocktail before or during a spicy mexican dish. Not sure if I'd want to have more than one of two of these - I was ready to move onto something else after my first. (1,094 characters)

Photo of daledeee
3.62/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I poured this one into an oversized wine glass. It has a decent head but lost that pretty quickly. I was able to stir up the head and nose repeatedly, however. The color is dark clear brown and maybe a hint of red but not much.

The nose is yeasty and dark fruit such as plums and raisons.

The taste is rather tart. Some cherry or plum and some grain in the background. A little sour and watery. This is a typical belgian taste. (429 characters)

Photo of philipquarles
3.6/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a clear brown with dark cherry tinges and a medium beige head. The foam subsides after a short period to leave a thin film and some lacing. Smells fairly sour, with some fruit notes coming through. Sweet malt in the background, along with some woody earthiness. The taste echoes this, with a sharp, though not overpowering, sourness at first. As the palate gets accustomed to this, some vinous notes become evident and the crystal malt comes through. Finishes dry and oaky. Smooth feel thanks to the medium body and low carbonation. A pretty decent oud bruin. (565 characters)

Photo of 57md
3.6/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Brownish copper in color. Oak notes in the nose but the wine notes predominate. Tastes like a mild dry red wine that was opened and left out for a week. (152 characters)

Photo of Rassputtin
3.59/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours transparent amber with average head that settles rather quickly. Only a light film remains around the edges.

I smell a woody sourness that makes me expect a tartness on my tongue. It smells.... Simple but not necessarily to a fault.

It seems to start bitter then settles into sour fruitiness. I initially think the flavor is lacking however as it lingers in my mouth I consider the feel on my tongue and initial bitter and think I want another sip.

The preceding sips are the same. It is not my favorite Flemish red, but it is a good beer. Definitely worth trying. (575 characters)

Photo of tone77
3.59/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a brown 11.2 oz. bottle. Has a dark brown/amber color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is of dark fruits, grapes. Taste is a bit wine like, tart, some malts, vinegar. Feels medium bodied in the mouth and overall, a style I know little about, but a decent beer. (267 characters)

Photo of bluejacket74
3.59/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle, cap stamped with 29-09-2014. Served in a snifter, the beer pours a reddish/brown color with about a half inch off-white head that went away pretty quickly. There's a small amount of lacing left on the glass. Aroma is vinegar, tart apples and cherries, and some wood. However, the flavor isn't very tart at all. I can taste tart apples and cherries and vinegar, but there's also a lot of caramel malt and sweet dark fruit noticable. Don't get me wrong, I like the taste of this beer but the tartness isn't even close to what I expected. The taste is sweeter than the aroma would lead you to believe. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a little bit coating with moderate carbonation. Drinkability is decent enough. I think it's a decent brew, but if you're looking for something sour I don't think this is the best choice. (835 characters)

Photo of dasenebler
3.58/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11oz. bottle, best by September 2014.

Pours a rich, dark, reddish brown with a creamy two-finger head. The lacing was good, the retention, average.

The aroma is vaguely tart, with a bit of metallic tang and fresh wood.

Light lactobacillus tartness along with a mellow, slightly buttery and milky flavor. Malts are present and add weight, but not much flavor. Kind of lacks personality, but to its credit, there is nothing off-putting about this beer. Hint of oak in the dry finish. The mouthfeel was the best part, I thought. It was creamy, with a fine, cascading carbonation. Drinkability is good given the lack of intensity and relatively low ABV, but my overall impression is that this beer is missing something. (719 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.58/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a dark, garnet-hued body with a thin, short-lived beige head.

Smell: Sharply acetic aroma with a vague, berry-like fruitiness. Hints of antique oak.

Taste: Flavor of sour cherries and red wine vinegar with subtle hints of wood and a pinch of salt. Very light yeastiness. Tart, fruity finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-thin body. Mild carbonation.

Drinkability: Yes sir, Itchy Gems makes a pretty fine Flanders Sour Ale. (433 characters)

Photo of infinitebruner
3.56/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

September 18, 2014

11.2 oz bottle, snifter

A – Dark, dark amber to brown, with a deep red tint. A couple centimeters of pink foam on top, dissipating quickly to pretty lacing on top. Looks a lot like grape juice.

S – Sweet cherries, tartness is big on the nose. Some sour acidity. Very low note of funk in the background.

T – Some puckering tartness mixed with candy sweetness, but not cloying. Wild cherries, some raspberries or blackberries. Sourness/tartness is very mild through the finish, which has some mild acidity.

M – Somewhat thin, but not to a fault. Low to moderate carbonation does not impact the palate. The sweetness, tart and acidity are balanced toward the sweetness. Moderate bite on the finish.

O – A flavorful beer, a little too heavily balanced toward the sweetness for me to love it. Good, but fairly unremarkable, especially for a style that tends toward complexity. (906 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.56/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

As the families of oude bruins and Flanders red ales share a similar geopgraphic region, the separate styles converge in this moderate strength Grand Cru delineated by the Strubbe Brewery.

The turbulent pour reveals a russet brown with garnet highlights. It's partially hazed appearance releases ample carbonation to fuel a fluffed and sprite foam stance. Somewhat champagne-like, the beer's carbonation has a fast turnover until the carbonation dispels deep into the session. Light random lacing gives the beer a little more structure than sour ales are typically given credit.

Sharp vinegary aromas shock the nose with the intensity of young lambic and cherry-infused Flemish ales. Mouth whetting sourness are draped in complementing scents of light toast and chocolate malts. Mild brine, lemons, sour white grapes, limes, and crab apples accompany the acidic balsamic notes for a complete and rounded scent- albeit abrupt for an Old Brown.

And the taste of the beer also heavily favors the vinegar sourness. Intense and puckering- the beer starts off with thin honey and toast but soon transitions sharply to dry toast, bread crust, and nuts before diving swiftly into the more acidic and palate-stripping sourness. Sour cherries, sour grapes, lemons, limes, and green apples propel the sourness toward a dry oak taste that finishes the flavor profile. As quick as the taste intensifies, it fades just as fast.

Sharpness extends from taste to texture as those acidic compounds pierce the taste buds and other soft tissues with pinpoint precision. The terse malt buffer is soon shed and the beer strips the mouth and refreshes it with a clean finish. Sharp astringency lingers in the sides of the tongue and jaws as an echo of cherry and balsamic last in memory.

Though brown in its color, I would better consider this beer to be a Flander's red ale rather than an Oude Bruin- It's much sharper and cherry-like that the must-friendly brown ales. (1,952 characters)

Photo of falloutsnow
3.55/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From: Friar Tuck's, Savoy, IL
Date: Best by 13-Nov-2016
Glass: New Belgium globe glass

Strubbe's Ichtegem Flemish Red comes across as a more intense version relative to their Flemish Red Ale Grand Cru, and by intensity, I mean the noticeable "funk" and acidity in the aroma and taste. There is a definite bile or acrid urine component to the scent and flavor of this beer, but it's integrated fairly well, and I suspect that others would view it as fruit-like flavors. Somewhat amusing, I found this more palatable than the Two Brothers' Moaten, mostly because this actually had a character, whereas that beer was abnormally bland. An interesting Flemish Red, one I'd try again if it were free for the taking, but when I'm paying, I'll stick with Rodenbach or Jacobins.

Pours a 1cm head of light tan bubbles, very small and dense in size, with average retention. As the head descends to a ring around the glass, it leaves some significant streaks of lacing on the sides. Body is a rather dark brown for the style with few hints of red. Beer is also transparent, with light bringing out reddish hues and making some modest carbonation visible.

Aroma is somewhat harsh, with a definite bile or concentrated uric-acid-like component to it. This gives an emphasis of smelling more sour than it is. The strange acidity takes front billing, but behind it there's some very sweet raspberry and cherry esters, though no real oak presence. Despite the apparent unpalatability, I don't find this particularly unappealing.

The taste follows scent, with minerals and concentrated uric-acid tartness on the front of the palate. Fruit esters appear predominantly in mid-palate, sweet cherries mingled with ripe blackberries, over a base of soured malt base. Back of palate picks up chemical-like tartness, a bit like red wine, but still having that bile or uric acid-like component, along with continued brown malt sweetness. Overall, not particularly unpleasant, if you're into weird sour ales, but not something I'd necessarily seek out again, either.

Beer is medium-bodied with mid-level carbonation that creates a fairly creamy, smooth mouthfeel. Finish is dry, with little residual stickiness on the palate. (2,203 characters)

Photo of AllenJasper
3.53/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle to Snifter
First 'sour' beer so i may just be rating the style, not the beer itself.

A: very dark red with a brownish tint. Sandy tan head, no lacing.

S: kinda smells like sparkling wine. Fruity and a strange vinegar hint.

T: it's got a raspberry/vinegar sourness that accommodates a dark red/brown ale flavor.

M: kinda sticky, with sharp carbonation... Sourness lingers

O: I like it. to my lips it's as simple as a sour brown ale, and I normally don't like brown ales. I can't imagine drinking more than 12 oz of this, it kinda baffles me that so many sours are served in 750mL bottles... I'll finish the bottle happy that I tried it though. (654 characters)

Photo of bskrtz
3.53/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served cold -- 11.2 ounce bottle to Abbey style open beer chalice

A) Belgian Dubbel clone, cloudy milk chocolate color ale. Very dense -- you cannot see through this stuff

S) Candy-sweet, fruity licorice, sour dough

T) Sour sweet malt, root beer, apple cider, tart

M) Bottle conditioned effervescent fizz. Holds carbonation well

D)This is not my favorite style, however Ichtegem is an excellent example of the style. Those who like Flemish Ale will surely enjoy this one. (477 characters)

Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
84 out of 100 based on 245 ratings.