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Ichtegem's Grand Cru - Brouwerij Strubbe

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Ichtegem's Grand CruIchtegem's Grand Cru

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BA SCORE
85
very good

420 Ratings
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Ratings: 420
Reviews: 229
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 12.5%
Wants: 14
Gots: 18 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: audiojon on 05-07-2006)
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eric5bellies

Australia

4.08/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Drank from my Duvel tulip glass

A - Pours a dark brown Belgian Ale appearance with a head that dies pretty fast.

S - Aromas are quite vineous and reminicent of the Duchess de Bourgoyne and a little sweet.

T - Up front there are some sweet malts that are followed briefly by some dark stewed fruit and finishes with a vineous flavour that is balanced out with sugar at the very end.

M - Light to medium body and small carbonation

D - I like this beer a lot, and it will leave a nice suprise for you, its something a little different which I enjoy.

Serving type: bottle

01-21-2011 14:55:44 | More by eric5bellies
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jwc215

Wisconsin

4.08/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Freshness date of 03-2013 on top of cap.

Pours hazed reddish brown with a thin tan bubbly head. Spots of lacing stick.

The smell is tart with some acidity, brown sugar, and vinuous notes - Oak is mild.

The taste is sour notes (grapey) with caramelish brown sugar sweetness. Not as sour as some other examples. The oak is mild, but there. It has a soft sweet and sour finish.

It is light-bodied with some effervescence. Very smooth.

A very drinkable example of the style. A malty complexity balances out the tart, though doesn't overwhelm it. Alcohol is very well hidden. It's not as strong as some others, but it has a nice uniqueness and is very drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

07-29-2009 16:25:37 | More by jwc215
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ILessThan3Brett

California

4.08/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This is a very difficult beer to review because I feel it differs an unusual amount from bottle to bottle. I've had about 8 or 10 of these over the past year, usually in a Rodenbach or Liefmans flute, and I feel that roughly half the time, the stuff that comes out of the bottle is definitely one of the best sour beers available. No observable pattern in bottle age or batch as to which bottles turn out great and which merely okay. I'm reviewing "the great half" and "the okay half" separately.

About half the time, I've gotten a superb beer with nicely balanced sweetness and tartness, predominantly vanilla flavors with a background of stone fruit, and maybe just a touch too much astringency. I think the most similar beer I've tried to this one is Jolly Pumpkin's La Roja, though I'm not sure I remember La Roja well enough to be confident about that comparison. I'd be tempted to give this verson of Ichtegem's Grand Cru a perfect rating.

The other half of the time, I've gotten something by no means awful, but certainly a bit odd, with the usual flaw being excessive sweetness accompanied by a bit more leather and astringency than usual. Leather undertones can be great in the right beer, but they clash with the sweetness here. On one occasion I got something a bit medicinal and acetone-like.

I do have a theory about the reason for the inconsistency and would love to have it confirmed or denied. I think that the beer as it is intended has pretty high diacetyl content, which comes off as contributing a vanilla-ish taste to this beer. However, diacetyls are unstable and can degrade (and then react with other beer components, degrading them in turn) if not treated gently. I think it's possible that this beer is just fragile and needs especially careful treatment to show its best. I know that it can also difficult to control diacetyl remetabolization (aka "diacetyl rest"). This must be especially difficult with a barrel-aged, bottle-conditioned ale like this one, so that could also be what's happening here.

EDIT: The distributors confirmed that this beer and Strubbe's Flemish Red Ale Grand Cru ( http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2299/28420 ) are identical beers despite having different labels.

Serving type: bottle

05-10-2011 11:53:03 | More by ILessThan3Brett
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MrDanno96

Ohio

4.08/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours fairly dark with hints of red - especially when held to light. Not much head or lacing.

S: The typical sour fruit aroma you would expect from this style.

T: Very pleasant - I get mostly sour grapes and raspberries, but not too sour. A good mix of sweet and sour acidity.

M: Light to medium and fairly smooth with a nice sour bite in the finish.

D: Very drinkable for the style, I think. Not TOO high in alcohol and not so sour that you want to stop after one.

Serving type: nitro-tap

09-06-2010 04:23:21 | More by MrDanno96
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crossovert

Illinois

4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle.

Pours into my tulip with a nice big off white head that looks amazing and leaves some nice laing topping a dark red/brown colored brew with yeast floaties gleefully swirling around.

The smell is heavily infused with a big dose of oak along with some vinegary cherry.

It is very smooth and drinkable, not very sour with a hint of cherry and some very nice caramel malts. Not too vinegary, very nice ale.

The mouthfeel is a bit off, it is very carbonated and slightly water if you take a certain sized gulp. I t is certainly very drinkable for the style.

This is a nice not too rabid, not too sweet Flanders Red Ale.

Serving type: bottle

02-23-2010 00:21:37 | More by crossovert
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alkchrios

New Hampshire

4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer was suggested to my by a reliable source due to my new found love for monks cafe flemish red.. I must say although I do enjoy the Ichtegem, the flanders still sticks out as one of the best sours ive ever had...although im not the most knowledgeable when it comes to sours.
A- Dark copper, almost a deep purple hue, mostly transparent with little to no head
S- wine, cherries, sugar
T-I get a nice cider taste, there are no earthy notes to this brew at all..just a lot of sweet tones with citrus and tartness.
M- Very crisp and clean..coats the entire pallet but not over bearing.
D- This is a great beer summer beer...very refreshing..not hard on the wallet at all and just an overall good beer!

Cheers

Serving type: bottle

03-14-2011 04:06:43 | More by alkchrios
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7ways

Georgia

4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

9/21/08 11.5 oz bottle in a tulip.

Looks dirty dark brown until held to the light, when it becomes a gorgeous bright red, with a fleeting off white head. Smells like ripe fruit, oak, and...cheddar? Smoked gouda? Interesting.
Taste: Lovely mild sourness; tart red fruit and muted lactose sweetness. Not much oak, but that's OK. Definitely smoked gouda on the finish, which is my favorite component of this brew. Lively carbonation, but could use a bit more. Not as dry or sour as others I've had of the style.
My local bar keeps this stocked, and I sometimes order 2 or 3 in a session. I ask for the gouda beer. Very good stuff.

Serving type: bottle

09-29-2008 01:34:09 | More by 7ways
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bceagles39

Massachusetts

4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On draft at Gastropub 775 in Reno, NV on July 26 2011.

Beer poured a light chestnut brown. It had a tan head with good lacing.

It smelled of sour cherries.

As one would expect, the first sip was bracingly acidic, sour and quenching.

The carbonation and beer were harsh on the tongue. The beer was very very smooth, likely due to the aging. No fake vanilla notes or anything like that.

Drinks like a Flemish Red with no lack of delicious, funky, Belgian action.

Serving type: on-tap

08-01-2011 00:25:25 | More by bceagles39
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Mitchster

Michigan

4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

$4.29 for an 11.2 oz bottle. 6.5% ABV per the bottle. Thin dark brown layer of yeast at the bottom of the bottle. Pours out to a clear dark brown, requiring a heavy pour to achieve a thin dark yellow head with poor retention and no lacing. Carbonation is moderate. The aroma is deliciously tart , with candied apples, tart cherries, and sour Belgian barnyard funk. The mouthfeel is pleasant, smooth, rounded with a nice oak character, a light body and a crisp piquant acidity. The taste starts out with sour cherries and candied apples, followed by a nice sweet apple cider vinegar note, oak, and followed by toasted malts in the middle. Bitterness is very mild, nearly non-existent. There is a peculiar candi-like aftertaste.

This beer is really nice, but it doesn't stand up to Duchesse, Goudenband, or Rodenbach Grand Cru...other killer examples of the style.

Serving type: bottle

11-24-2010 03:23:00 | More by Mitchster
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Brenden

Ohio

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It's true that I need more experience with the style, but I think I know the guidelines, at least.

It's sort of a thick and hazy beer, and the color isn't so much a red-brown as brown-red. A big, fluffy off-qhite head stands for a good, long time, barely diminishing below two fingers for quite a while and remaining even as the beer is being drunk. It sticks around like a creamy pillow before eventually settling to a layer that deposits patchy lacing that continues to spread out in legging as it goes.
Tart and sour on the nose, this is a solid standard-setter as I understand it. Just a touch of vinegar-like funk is unoffensive and deep. Light alcohol notes just sneak out.
Plenty tart and sour, it's short of puckering but plenty flavorful. It's got lots of it, giving the impression of underripe fruits that have somehow full developed their flavor. A creamy sort of vanilla sweetness underlies it and balances very nicely. An easy sipper that's not too sour but doesn't stray, I could have several of these easily.
The body is light a fairly robust red wine with a light fizz to it. It's got a solid depth to it and flows very nicely. It has a pretty easy finish.

Serving type: on-tap

05-09-2013 15:32:58 | More by Brenden
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mikesgroove

South Carolina

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

375ml bottle poured into a Snifter

A – Poured a very nice and hazy ruby tinted medium brown with a decent enough two inch head of off white frothy foam at the top. This settled down gently to a nice thin layer across with adequate side glass lacing throughout.

S – The aroma was rich and full of sour tones. There was a nice earthy grain quality to the background which melded with lots of sour fruit like smells and a nice tight bouquet of light alcohol. Very classic aroma for the style.

T – A wonderful and very full flavor this one was definitely a crowd pleaser. The first wave to hit me was a nice rich bitter sour puckered grape flavor. This was very full with a good amount of bite to it and a really nice freshness. Once it started to warm, some very nice sugary notes began to meld into it and form a very nice dark fruit like flavor that continued on into a very nice long lasting bitter dry finish. There was almost a wine like flavor capping it off, very good.

M – Very smooth and delicate, this light to medium bodied ale displayed more then adequate carbonation and a rich velvet like texture that really helped to showcase and bring forward the delicate flavors that were inside.

D – Very nice sipper. The flavors were very big and intense at first, but as it warmed it really started to mellow some and became a fine sipping sour ale. There was very low ABV so you had no trouble in polishing it off.

Overall this was a fine example of the style and really nice sour ale; I had not had one in a good while so this was a nice treat. Very nice presentation and aroma, and the flavor more then backed it up. I would gladly have another one of these any day.

Serving type: bottle

12-22-2007 17:26:37 | More by mikesgroove
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chefkevlar

South Carolina

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a beautiful deep garnet color with a 1/4 inch or so of tan colored head.

S: Very complex aroma with a mix of cherry, vinegar, raspberry, and a little bit of a funky backgroud

T: Complex just like the smell. I was told this was a sour beer and there is a hit of sour at first, but it fades quickly. Other than that I can taste cherry and raspberry, along with a bit of vinegar. It finishes with a little bit of a mineral taste.

M: Medium body with a moderate amount of carbonation. The carbonation is made of tiny bubbles which reminds me of champagne

D: This is not a beer that could be pounded down in large amounts, but it is very enjoyable to sip on a bottle or two at a time.

Serving type: bottle

08-25-2010 04:19:51 | More by chefkevlar
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joshstevens87

Pennsylvania

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a chestnut red with a half inch light tan head
S-a bit of sharpness and fruits with a fresh woody tone
T-a nice bite offruit a bit of vinegar and very smooth
M-medium body with a low carbonation a very smooth feel
D-overall a great beer that may not be as strong as other beers but is extremely drinkable

Serving type: bottle

09-01-2010 02:09:05 | More by joshstevens87
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brdc

Wisconsin

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Small capped bottle, thanks to stousnipas.
This is an Oud Bruin, according to both taste and the bottle.
Beautiful burgundy, with shiny amber overtones, and a fluffy tan head that dissipates leaving an ever-lasting lace that coats the sides of the glass and the top of the beer all the way down.
Aroma is vinegary, sour, mildly malted and slightly smoked.
Light bodied, easy to drink, it has the expected taste, vinegary, malted, acidic and mildly bitter, with some minimal "roasted" notes.
Not spectacular, but quite interesting.

Serving type: bottle

10-01-2007 23:25:26 | More by brdc
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reddish with a little white head. Medium plus mouthfeel. Pleasant flemish red aroma. Easy drinking, to the last drop. Nice balance with a little vinegar and well done sweet offset.A moderate cherry. The mildest of oak. Tasty one.Understated carbonation.

Serving type: bottle

11-14-2008 03:57:38 | More by Sammy
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let8it8grow

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +6.4%

07-04-2014 19:06:43 | More by let8it8grow
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jmccraney

Washington

4/5  rDev +6.4%

11-23-2012 01:17:38 | More by jmccraney
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zonker17

Texas

4/5  rDev +6.4%

01-12-2012 22:14:17 | More by zonker17
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JohnQBeer

New York

4/5  rDev +6.4%

06-22-2013 05:24:01 | More by JohnQBeer
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dgeebs07

New York

4/5  rDev +6.4%

07-04-2012 14:59:44 | More by dgeebs07
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Neffbeer

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +6.4%

11-14-2011 23:26:30 | More by Neffbeer
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Beermasterjarrett

California

4/5  rDev +6.4%

03-03-2014 07:14:55 | More by Beermasterjarrett
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CaptainNomihodai

Illinois

4/5  rDev +6.4%

03-01-2013 19:04:46 | More by CaptainNomihodai
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shuckit

British Columbia (Canada)

4/5  rDev +6.4%

08-29-2013 01:43:29 | More by shuckit
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JohnGalt1

Idaho

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330 ml bottle picked up at the Coop today for about $4.50.. poured into my New Belgium snifter... I was very stoked to have Matt show me this one... big thanks.

2 finger lite tan head drops leaving nice sticky lacing.. the brew is a hazy dark brown with nice ruby highlites.

aroma is sweet and mildy vinous .. subtle acetic notes but they are understated when compared to many in this style... wood is there.. smells tannic.. sorta like a wine and vinegar soaked fresh oak sawdust.

Flavor is surprising.. not nearly as sweet as the nose... also no where near as sour as the aroma would lead. Palate is very understated, which actually adds years to the immediate drinkablity.. for the most part it is mainly pale malts with a little bit of toastiness that moves quickly into the sour portion that finishes with an oaky dryness... a tying cherry fruitiness binds everything together from front to back... no oxidation that I can detect.. lite/medium body makes me really want another sip.

This is a perfect Flanders Red for the person who has never tried one and still wants to expand their horizons.

I applaud the COOP and Matt and Ashton for honestly getting in some truly unique beers into the market recently and especially in the last year.. Cheers to expanding Boise's palate.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2008 06:53:12 | More by JohnGalt1
Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
85 out of 100 based on 420 ratings.