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Ichtegem's Grand Cru - Brouwerij Strubbe

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Ichtegem's Grand CruIchtegem's Grand Cru

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BA SCORE
85
very good

420 Ratings
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Ratings: 420
Reviews: 229
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 12.5%
Wants: 14
Gots: 18 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Strubbe visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: audiojon on 05-07-2006)
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chefduff2

New York

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%

04-15-2013 02:59:20 | More by chefduff2
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Farky87

Ohio

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%

06-28-2012 01:41:03 | More by Farky87
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Zbeetleman

California

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%

07-06-2013 04:38:30 | More by Zbeetleman
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anteater

Oregon

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%

09-27-2012 17:26:41 | More by anteater
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Toadhopper

Florida

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%

08-30-2013 21:19:14 | More by Toadhopper
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snogglethorpe

Japan

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bears more than a passing resemblance to Ichtegem's Oud Bruin from the same brewery, if a little less sweet.

It's an attractive darkish brown with a nice off-white head. The smell is kind of musty and attractive, but the taste is a little thin and overly sweet. There's not much in the way of sourness/tartness. There's a bit of mustiness/wood in the taste, though not as much as in the smell.

It's quite drinkable and not at all unpleasant, but a little underwhelming. If you're looking for sour/tart, go elsewhere.

Serving type: bottle

06-08-2010 09:48:43 | More by snogglethorpe
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brewcrew76

Wisconsin

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

11/2012 printed on cap

A - Deep reddish brown with little head.

S - Sour and slightly acidic, wet oak, cherry yogurt?, maybe a touch of spice.

T - Wet oak, vanilla, slightly spicy with tart cherry. The oaky tannins linger on the tongue.

M - Medium body leaving a slick, dry coating in the mouth. After several sips I feel as if I have been sucking on wet oak chips that have gone dry and are leaving a strange oaky film coating my mouth.

D - Slight promise in appearance and smell but all down hill from there.

Serving type: bottle

03-28-2009 02:55:16 | More by brewcrew76
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kawilliams81

Illinois

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%

08-06-2013 02:33:12 | More by kawilliams81
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Boz12

Washington

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%

08-15-2012 06:58:39 | More by Boz12
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AndoBrew

Georgia

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

*did not mind would not buy*

app: looks more brown than red.. not great lookin.

smell: mild pepper some nice tart zing w/ a little bit of brown gravy.

taste: odd. some sort of chemical after taste. some sour, lots of thick almost blonde malts

mf: little to thick, needs more bubles.

drinkable?: needs more zing, its nice but it needs more sour power.

Serving type: bottle

10-04-2007 01:52:25 | More by AndoBrew
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Richardberg

New York

3.25/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - poured into a tulip. Dark copper, very reddish when reflecting any amount of light. Fairly opaque but not hazy (no obvious bubbles or sediment in the way, just...hazy). Small head disappears quickly but leaves a little lacing.

S - balsamic vinegar, dark cherry, prune...yet a little bit of sweet caramel too

T - nicely tart up front but lacks backbone and/or auxiliary flavors

M - light body, not much in the way of carbonated zing either. Needs one or the other to bring it back to life.

D - decent sour. not interesting enough to pay import pricing.

Serving type: bottle

08-19-2010 03:20:29 | More by Richardberg
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WOTO97

California

3.28/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A pretty vigorous pour delivers a thin creamy head atop a deep burned mahogany color. Pretty dense lacing results.

Some very faint tartness in the nose with some light vinegar notes. Some grape and green apple come through with very distant cranberry flavors.

Aside from some lactic acid on the finish, very subtle, almost muted, tartness throughout. Strong wood flavors along with a slight resiny finish along with a touch of charcoal. Don't really pick up on any of the cherries or dark fruit mentioned below, nor any fruit complexity. Also, the finish is surprisingly not dry.

Similar mouth-coating that accompanies most sours without the expected puckering. Density is relatively surprising and builds throughout.

Meh...enjoyable for what it offers; however, I probably won't go back to it.

Serving type: bottle

06-25-2010 17:25:04 | More by WOTO97
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emerge077

Illinois

3.28/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours placidly into a fluted tulip glass, a finger of off-white foam appears when the glass is turned from 45º to 90º. In the candlelight, the bowl of the glass glows a deep ruby. Tiny carbonation is seen rising near the foam. Lacing is delicate and spindly, with a sticky edge where it meets the glass.

Musty hay aroma, very muted and bland at first. At room temperature when swirled vigorously, there was a hint of cherry yogurt.

Buttery taste (diacetyl?) leads into vanilla and light touches of oak. Low level tartness fights with the dry oak tannins, and ends up feeling muddled. Is it actually tart, or more of a bitter feel from the wood? Slight taste of cherry pit and skins as it warms up, but not well defined. With a bigger sip, the oak tannin seems more dominant. Nothing funky or wild about it.

Moderate level of carbonation, but it has a filmy slickness at the end that is distracting. Overall it's a little too dull to pique sustained interest. Worth trying but not a repeat buy. Rodenbach buries this by a landslide, Oud Bruin or not.

Serving type: bottle

10-23-2008 02:11:41 | More by emerge077
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DefenCorps

Oregon

3.3/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle, picked up at State Line in Elkton. Date on cap says "08-2010", so i guess this bottle has another two years to go. Into my Defiant tulip

A: Pours a very deep red (almost reddish-brown) with a solid two-finger head. Holding it against a strong light reveals plenty of carbonation and a beer of considerable clarity.

S: Sour with some acetic notes with a pronounced oaky sweetness with plenty almost raw oaky vanilla character. The sweetness in this beer is very woody in nature and quite appealing. In the grander scheme of things, this one's among the less sour of the Flemish Reds but not everything can be a La Folie or Ommegang Rouge.

T: Starts off with a surprisingly sour character with some vinegar and oak and a palm sugar like sweetness. On swallowing, however, this beer becomes quite, uh, strange with some almost rotting meat-like flavor and a mildly tannic, dry finish.

M: Fairly light in body with pretty good carbonation and a nice dry finish (maybe a tad watery) but the strange flavor on the finish is off-putting.

D: This is fairly easy to drink, at least until you swallow this beer. I'm not sure I'll finish it, probably let it sit for an hour before i continue drinking

Serving type: bottle

11-08-2008 19:48:43 | More by DefenCorps
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Georgiabeer

Georgia

3.3/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured a murky reddish brown with a thin head. Sweet fruity aromas followed by a dose of lightly acetic sourness. More sweeet than sour, but only slightly. There is also a slight vegetal aroma and some dusty smelling fruit. The taste is a little light, and once again more on the sweet than the sour side. Still, none of the unpleasant vegetal odors manifest in th taste at all. Mouthfeel is very fizzy, a little too much so. Overall, this beer is a little too sweet for the style for my taste and a bit out of balance. Not bad, but there are a number of better options.

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2008 19:09:47 | More by Georgiabeer
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Gueuzedude

Arizona

3.3/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sampled February 2010
A solid pour into my large Tripel Karmeliet tulip produces an almost three-finger thick, lightly amber tinged, light tan colored head. The beer is a dark, almost burnt, amber color that shows a fairly clear, deep red hue when held up to the light. The aroma smells lightly tart, faintly of balsamic vinegar, has a touch of fermented plum sauce, a solid but subtle cherry like fruitiness, some rhubarb aromas and maybe even a hint of nail polish.

Quite a bit sweeter than I was expecting, though not as sweet as the Duchesse, and there is only a touch of tartness to the flavor. The sweetness definitely begs for more balancing sourness, at least for this particular sour beer lover. This tastes quite a bit like cherries up front, but finishes with a rich maltiness that is laden with rich oxidized malt notes, toasted-brown-sugar crusted whole-grain bread and light sherry or even port like notes. Actually come to think of it, this really tastes like Concord grape juice, which I must say I am not the biggest fan of. There is perhaps a hint of spiciness towards the finish that suggests oak, but there is a certain roundness to the texture that suggests oak-derived tannins. The mix of tart and sweet, combines with the medium'ish body to make this fairly drinkable.

I shouldn't have expected too much for this beer, but somehow I feel a bit disappointed and cheated. This is certainly not horrible, but to my preferences it is not sour or tart enough and it could use a bit more malt richness too, hell even some rustic funkiness would be welcome.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2010 22:51:36 | More by Gueuzedude
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Alieniloquium

Florida

3.33/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle poured into an RR -tion glass. Best by 2015, I think, but it's smudged.

Appearance - Dark ruby brown body with an ample two-finger head of off-white foam. Excellent lacing. Really nice lacing.

Smell - Sweet malts and oak are most predominant. Hardly any tart aromas. Cherry, I suppose, but it's not a sour cherry.

Taste - Much more acidic than the aroma implies. Harsh acidic red wine vinegar. Oak all over, too. Finishes just a touch sweet.

Mouthfeel - Harsh on the palate. The flavors aren't bad, but the mouthfeel is unpleasant. Very acidic and vinegary. Highly carbonated.

Overall - It's harsh and too oaky. The flavors aren't inherently bad, but the feel just cancels out all benefits.

Serving type: bottle

05-12-2012 01:21:08 | More by Alieniloquium
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ThirdLap

California

3.33/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up at Holiday Wine Cellar in Escondido on the way back from my wedding in San Diego. Bottle shows a best before date of 03-2013. Served at 45°F in engraved champagne flutes we received as a gift at our reception.

Pours a dark ruby brown with a finger-thick creamy light tan head. Lots and lots of chunky thick lacing remain as I sip this one down.

Nose is rather subdued... there's a lot going on, but nothing that really screams out for attention. Most apparent is tangy dark cherries and the expected notes of red wine vinegar. Hints of oak and caramel round things out. Alcohol is apparent, which leads me to believe ABV is on the higher end of the scale for Flanders reds.

First taste is promising, with tart cherries, red wine, and an oaky finish, but it quickly fizzles, proving to be a rather one-dimensional example of the style. Savor this one quickly, as any flavor the tongue picks up disappears quick. Mrs. ThirdLap (who is a fan of the style) could not finish her glass, complaining of an off-flavor that reminded her of beers that have been improperly stored... however I'm fairly certain that's not the case with this bottle.

Body is rather thin and watery, with carbonation on the medium-high end of the scale. Alcohol is more noticeable than expected.

I found myself losing interest after the first few sips, knocking a few points off drinkability. It's an easy-drinking beer, but you simply find yourself bored with it very quickly.

Serving type: bottle

04-21-2009 05:05:19 | More by ThirdLap
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jojox

Illinois

3.33/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

a - brown, slightly red. Very clear. No sediment, this doens't seem to be bottle conditioned.

s - smells of toast and mild wild funk. Caramel malt in there too.

t - sweet malt with a hint of sour and tang. Winey, red wine but no tannins.

m - lots of CO2. Not much else to say.

d - easy, but not what I expected.

This seems like a very simple beer, only very slightly tart/tangy and not much complex sourness or funkyness. Very drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

12-16-2008 15:33:34 | More by jojox
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beckje01

Minnesota

3.33/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A- Very dark red color with a thin white head.

S- Very sour nose and a touch of malt in there as well

T- Some malt some sour some dryness and no aftertaste it's nice but the whole taste is rather fleeting, interesting.

M- Slightly too thin a bit more body would help.

D- Nice easy to drink. Not a good beer to start some one with this style with but a nice version of it. Worth a try if you see it.

Serving type: bottle

11-21-2008 07:03:37 | More by beckje01
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Spiderhouse

California

3.35/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A--Dark, opaque brown with magenta hues. Minimal head. No lacing.

S--Dark overripe cherries, with an odd hint of grapes. Like Bubble Yum grape, not Bordeaux grape. Odd.

T--Like it smells, sadly, with a funky back end. There's a musty, attic-like quality on the finish. Not bad, really, but not great.

M--Merely average.

D--Okay. I mean, I wouldn't turn it down at a party, but this is far from the best I've had in this style. A bit of a disappointment.

Procured from Red Carpet Wine & Liquor, Glendale, CA

Serving type: bottle

09-24-2009 02:06:18 | More by Spiderhouse
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DaveHS

California

3.38/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours deep brown with ruby highlights and a fluffy 1.5 inch head. Leaves moderate soapy lacing.

S-Sauerkraut! Makes me want a hot dog. Some light lactic acidity.

T/M-Soft, nutty. Not very sour. Just a hint of cherry sweetness, low carbonation.

D-I could see this being a good gateway Flanders Red, but certainy not a great representation of the style.

Serving type: bottle

02-05-2011 00:39:27 | More by DaveHS
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juhl31

California

3.38/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

-the color is a cloudy, deep brown with a reddish accent. a light tan head rises nicely during the pour and then settles out to a thin sheet

-there is definitely a vinegary smell to it, like a balsamic. there is a hint sour smell as well. a bit of a malt sniff in the back as well

-on the front of the sip there is sourness on the front of the tongue with the vinegar taste lingering in the back of the tongue. that taste melts into a fruity, sweet tart style candy taste (aka an artificial candy fruit taste). the finish leaves a weird, kind of rooty taste in my mouth. plus points for a nice transformation of flavors, neg. points for the finish

-there is a sharp carb bite which is weird because it also feels a bit flat somehow. it leaves kind of a burny back of the throat as well

-not necessarily a big fan of this beer. with that being said, the front end taste of the beer i didn't mind. glad i tried it, but that's probably it

Serving type: bottle

06-30-2011 03:36:50 | More by juhl31
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GusDom

Illinois

3.38/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Poured with an inch worth of head, the color is of a darker ruby reddish/brown. Fine bubbles floating to the top. Pretty nice looking beer, not much lacing being left though. Head dissapeared after about a minute.

Aroma- Grape skin, slight green apple and vinegar. Smells like kombucha. Fresh tart cranberries, slight caramel, faint bitter-sweet chocolate. Has an oaky finish.

Taste- Caramel, prunes, slight vinegar, oak, smell and taste are actually pretty different. I also get a nutty taste, similar to an almond. The smell tends to be more pungent where as the taste is just slightly pungent with a slight sweetness added.

Verdict- I have mixed feelings about this beer. I definitely appreciate the aroma, the beer didn't seem too complex at first whiff but after about 4 more tries I started picking up the chocolate notes, it definitely surprised me how complex the aroma was. Still, the taste just didn't do it for me. I was expecting a little more sour and not so much sweetness. I'm not saying it was very sweet, but it did have that slight doppelbock caramel note I was not expecting in a flemish sour. I would try again if offered but Im not going to go out of my way to seek it out. I would rather recommend Monk's Cafe Flemish Sour for someone who is new to sours, it may not be as complex but it is definitely more enjoyable IMO.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2012 02:59:07 | More by GusDom
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dbossman

Nebraska

3.4/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Mahogoney with a thin but steady head; lacing is full and steady

S: Sour; woody with a touch of vinegar; subtle tart cherries

T: Sourness falls flat--a bit of tart apple and woodiness but most is lost in watery finish

F: A bit thin

D: While this is drinkable, this is not what I was expecting--thin and not nearly sour enough

Serving type: bottle

07-10-2010 02:02:10 | More by dbossman
Ichtegem's Grand Cru from Brouwerij Strubbe
85 out of 100 based on 420 ratings.