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Grassroots / Tired Hands Wachu Saison - Grassroots Brewing

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103 Ratings
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Ratings: 103
Reviews: 38
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 9.95%
Wants: 24
Gots: 10 | FT: 1
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Grassroots Brewing
Vermont, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: codewarrior on 10-16-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 103 | Reviews: 38
Reviews by jaasen64:
Photo of jaasen64
4.24/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle poured into HF over-sized wine glass stemware. Thanks to uvm2003 for sending this to me in the BIF. Probably bottled at least two years ago at this point. There is a date labeled what appears to be 7/25/12, not sure if that is a best by date as I'm pretty sure this beer was made over two years ago.
Tired Hands collab brewed with long-grain red rice, schezuan pepper-corns, and Yuzu fruit. According to label: "If there exists such a beer as an Asian Farmhouse ale, this is our rendition of it.

A- Gusher as soon as the cap is taken off, tried to pour fast so it didn't get all over my counter. Pours a slightly hazy orange with a big foamy white head that measures at least 4-5 fingers. Nice consistent carbonation.

S- Classic hf saison yeast, a little bit of brett, lemons, slight pepper-corn, other fruits that I can't put my finger on (probably because I have no idea what Yuzu fruit is). Aroma has held up incredibly well.

T- Saison yeast with a bit of fruit reminiscent of a bit of lemons, oranges, passion fruit, etc (I'm assuming this is from the Yuzu fruit), faint funk, slight pepper-corns on the finish and can taste the rice aspect slightly. Very well balanced, clean saison qualities, held up extremely well- never had this fresh but seems like it hasn't deteriorated at all.

M- Medium bodied, clean, crisp, decent carbonation, light fluffy head, all the great qualities of a saison.

O- This beer holds all the great qualities of a perfectly crafted saison and has held up surprisingly well after being brewed well over two years ago. The "Asian-aspect" of this beer comes out nicely and adds a nice unique characteristic balancing with the saison qualities of the beer. This was an absolute treat to try and is definitely still worth seeking out. This makes me want to open up some of the HF saisons that I've been cellaring for over a year.

More User Reviews:
Photo of lnashsig
3.98/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An awesome bottle brought from Vermont, I think from Hill Farmstead brewery, by my friend BHollas.

Saison with Spices and Brett:

From bottle: "If there exists such a beer as an Asian Farmhouse ale, this is our rendition of it. Created lovingly with long grain red rice added to the mash, Schezuan peppercorns added to the boil, and then fermented atop copious of Yuzu fruit, Wachu Saison is about as "East Coast" as Farmhouse ales get.

Poured from bottle (non dated) into my Jester King Farmhouse Ale glass. Pours a terrific glowing yellow/orange cloudy color. Huge, thick as cream head fills the glass, and stays around forever. Leaves sticky lacing all over the glass. Smell- Brett in the nose. Smells like wet hay, followed by a sweet asian fruit smell. I'm not familiar with Yuzu fruit, but I am assuming it is manifesting itself in this sweet smell. Some sort of spicy phenols trail at the end. Smells awesome- right up my alley.

Taste- this took me somewhere I didn't see it going. It was brett up front, but it blasted the back of my throat with a sweet flavor, coated with some interesting spices. Almost tangy? Puckers your mouth a little. some funkiness comes up as an aftertaste- more wet hay, bretty flavors. This is a pretty interesting and unique beer.

Mouthfeel- tight, thick carbonation. A little bit stingy but style appropriate.

Overall, a good beer I would have again.

Photo of Sammy
3.21/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottle from the recent cellar offerings, at Blue Monk. Very barnyard. In fact barnyard gets in the way of all else. If not for the style I would suspect skunking. Lacey, above average mouthfeel. Some earthy and bretty taste with that horse.Not great drinkability, but for what it is was of some interest.

Photo of Alieniloquium
4.23/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

330 mL bottle poured into a snifter. Bottled 7/25/2012? Not sure if that's what the date means. A collaboration between Grassroots and Tired Hands. A must try, even with my dismal outlook on collabs.

Appearance - Golden orange. Huge overflowing white head. Layers cling inside the glass. Impressive. Thick collar after it all finally settles.

Smell - Floral with some tropical fruits. A bit of apple. Lots of brett. Some sweet malts.

Taste - Dynamic. Apples counterpointed by some peppery notes. Sweet malts. Earthy tones from the brett. A build up of bitter flavors and a spicy finish. Tough to pinpoint the spice. Cardamon or something. I'm probably way off, but it's something that plays with that earthy flavor.

Mouthfeel - Way overcarbonated. Probably my fault for sitting on this bottle for so long. Medium bodied and a little sweet.

Overall - Great incorporation of flavors. I wonder how much it has dried out or maybe would have dried out if I sat on it longer. Definitely would have carbonated even more, but I'd be interested to see what flavors pan out as the brett chows down on the sugars.

Photo of SpdKilz
4.03/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A huge thanks to King Kong for this great extra. Cheers!

Appearance – Pours into a tulip with a lovely golden hazy color. A finger and a half of head is achieved that dissipates slowly leaving great lacing,

Smell – Heavy spice and fruits (lemon), slight funk, pepper, coriander, and wheat.

Taste – Begins with a citrus sweetness which melds to the white pepper spice and coriander. The barnyard funk is not very pronounced but there, mixed with wet hay and a bit of lemon zest. Overall, relatively sweet.

Mouthfeel – Medium bodied, higher carbonation.

Overall – A decent saison, though a bit too sweet. Glad I was able to try it.

Photo of emerge077
3.6/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle, review from written notes.
Served in a mini nonic pint.

Pours a hazy yellow gold, bone white foam with a creamy texture to the surface. A minimal collar of lacing is left behind, with a lasting veil stretched across the surface.

Signature Brett yeast aromas, dusty phenolic minerals, hay, leather, horseblanket, dried fruit at the tail end.

Lots of Brett yeast, approaching a medicinal level. Hay and horsehair, saddle leather notes, all from the Brett strain. Not getting much yuzu citrus or peppercorn, though there's a tangy dry aftertaste with some cheesy funk seeping in around the edges. Light astringency with a medium level of carb, body feels bigger due to the active yeast. Overall it's ok, just another iteration of a Brett beer that pales in comparison to Saison-Brett, De Proef, Orval, etc. Not worth shelling out $15 at the bar for...

Photo of bluejacket74
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle stamped with 25.07.2012, I assume that's the best by date. Served in a tulip glass, the beer pours a hazy golden/amber color with about an inch off-white head. Head retention and lacing are both good. Aroma is sweet and spicy, the brew smells like coriander, peppery spice, lemongrass, citrus fruit and peels, and some grain/wheat. The taste is pretty much like the aroma, but there's also the addition of some tart citrus and a bit of a flowery/herbal flavor. After drinking the beer for a while, a herbal/bitter finish gets stronger. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a little bit coating and is well carbonated. I think it's a good enough brew, I liked it.

Photo of Blanco
3.78/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

For a variety of reasons I've wanted to try this beer. I love Hill Farmstead and Grassroots is sister brand. This is a collaboration with Tired Hands, which will be opening down the road from me soon.

The beer pours a very light cloudy golden color with a fluffy white head. The smell is of typical saison yeast with a hint of brett and a huge dose of spices. The flavor is similar and dry, though the spices are more prominent and overshadow the brett. Some lemon and orange citrus linger in the background as well along with a medicinal quality. The mouthfeel is light and nicely carbonated. This is a pretty good saison. Certainly different. Not an everyday drinker, but good nonetheless.

Photo of metter98
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is very hazy golden yellow in color. It poured with a finger high white head that died down but consistently left a thin head covering the surface.
S: There are subtle sour aromas of Yuzu fruit in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste has a light amount of sourness and a moderate amount of acidity from the Yuzu fruit.
M: It feels a bit shy of medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate to high amount of carbonation.
O: This isn’t as refreshing compared to other saisons but is very complex and makes for a good sipping beer. It is definitely unique for the style.

Photo of GONZALOYANNA
4.85/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

330ml bottle. Snifter glass. Enjoyed on dec´11. Golden color, chill haze. White, copious & foamy crown. Flowers, intense vanilla fragancy , clove hues & spices to the nose. Flavors are slightly malty touches, tangerine, peppery. Underlying sparkling sensation & velvet palate. Bitter finish, sweet malt notes. Flavorful body, moderate carbonation. Dry bitterness & fruits on the aftertaste. One of the best beers I´ve ever had !!

Photo of wethorseblanket
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a hazy golden yellow with a fluffy off-white large head which leaves some sticky lace.

N: Peppery spices, bready yeast, some barnyard funk, floral and fruity, grass and hay.

T: Well integrated balance of warm spicy pepper, yeast and funk. Nice floral and earthy notes.

M: Medium body and carbonation. Lingering peppery spice finish.

O: Enjoyable and interesting.

Photo of liamt07
4.45/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by Jason, 12oz bottle into a tulip. A brewery I've been looking forward to!

Hazy dark orange body, with a big, thick offwhite head. Good lacing and fantastic retention. Nose is funky and bretty, lemon, spice, and incredibly floral/perfumy. Some sweet malt too, a real nice nose here. Taste echoes this, quite spicy and again a unique floral/herbal quality. Peppercorn in there too. Reminds me quite a bit of the DDC Noce de Soie. A bit of alcohol warmth in the finish. Good effervescence, mildly drying and supremely drinkable. An excellent saison.

Photo of ghostwalker
4.17/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge, rocky, white head. Almost too much head to pour without a huge mess. Cloudy golden body.

Nose is tart and horsey. Orval-like.

Flavor is crisp, tart, quenching. The Brett is a huge contributor, only really getting the spices on the finish and aftertaste. Still a really great and unique brew.

Mouthfeel is crisp and tart bordering on astringent. Hits the palate hard and says, "Hey, I'm here, pay attention!".

Drinkability is higher than I originally thought. The Brett smooths out on the palate after a few sips and the Saison sweetness comes through a bit. Maybe this is my new summer ale!

Photo of dbrauneis
3.83/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a hazy golden yellow with a half finger tall fizzy white head. The head dissipates quickly leaving a very thin layer of bubbles, mostly around the edges of the glass. Very minimal amounts of lacing.

S: Aroma is pungently sour and funky with hints of citrus.

T: Flavor is sour funk upfront with hints of citrus and pepper. Nice balance with moderate amounts of acidity.

M: Just shy of medium bodied with moderate to high amounts of carbonation. There is a light amount of dryness.

O: Lots of funk with pleasant amounts of complexity. Not super easy to drink but on the other hand, quite enjoyable. Would match well with aromatic cheeses.

Photo of Thorpe429
4.52/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle courtesy of yourefragile. Served in a tulip.

Pours a nice golden color with a white head. The nose has really nice exotic fruit plus some light spice. Stone fruits. Flavor is impressive as well. Similar and quite intense. Good fruits and dry finish. Brett and yuzu there throughout. Good carbonation. Really solid. Glad I ordered some of this.

Photo of jlindros
4.15/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Tap at prohibition pig

Big fizzy fluffy 2 finger head fades semi quickly with plenty of lacing, slight hazy golden orange yellow color.

Nose brings plenty of Brett, funky barnyard wild funk, light bready malts, hint of saison spices, light citrus.

Taste wild funk, tons of Brett again, barnyard funk but not quite horsehair, light bready malts and saison flavors, hint of spices and citrus with a nice peppercorn taste midway, light juicy malts, fluffy and smooth, quite carbonated. Finish is dry and bready, more lingering funk, light floral hops, bitterness lingering.

mouth is lighter bodied, tons of carb.

Overall nice, really shows the potential of Brett but without to much horsehair wet blanket, and nice saison notes in the background, but a bit too much carb.

Photo of Rifugium
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Teresa's, Wayne, PA

Hazy golden-yellow liquid with a nice puff of white head; decent retention and lacing. Aroma of yeast and wet grass, light fruit, sugary pale malts. Taste is a nice mixture of chewy bready malts, peppery yeast, light fruits--peach, pear, citrus--mild grassy funk, and a slightly sour twang; nice hop bitterness in the finish. Crisp, tasty, drying, light body, easily drinkable.

Photo of John_M
4.42/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Teresa's during PBW.

The beer pours a fairly dark honey gold color with good head retention and lacing. The nose is most impressive in this bad boy, as I get considerable clove, sour funk, black pepper, light honey and underlying spice. The flavor profile replicates the nose pretty closely, and I love the hoppy bitterness in this beer, which helps to buoy the honey, clove and considerable spice. Really, this is one of the better "non-Belgium" saisons I can recall having in quite some time. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, but there's a "weightiness" to the mouthfeel that I really like. The beer other finishes well, with a wash of honey, clove and hoppy bitterness. Alcohol is very well integrated into the flavor profile.

Wow! This was a very pleasant surprise. Excellent beer!

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle opened on 6.3.13
Date is rubbed off

A - Pours a hazy light orange with a huge cream-colored active head with good retention, foamy.

S - Spices, pepper, sweet.

T - Peppery, spices, sweet maltiness from the rice.

D - Tons of carbonation with a light body.

O - Black pepper and rice make this spicy and sweet, but very nicely balanced and super easy to drink. Very well done.

Photo of DenverLogan
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Gold straw color...lingering small head. Big aroma of grass, anise, crackers, flower fields. Rich flavors...some bitterness, fruit rind, citrus, grass, peppercorn, mango. Lingering bitter fruit rind finish with minimal alcohol notes. Overall tasty and fun...good for a pint.

Photo of SittingOnAMtnTop
4.37/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a beautiful unfiltered golden color. Already can tell the carbonation is a bit on the heavy side. I let mine sit and ocassionally swirl in the glass before trying. This really helped with the carbonation. The smell is wonderful. Great Brett funk upfront. You get some citrus, I assume from the yuzu. Then you get some spice, typical for a saison. But the overall smell of the Brett and citrus notes gets me very excited.

The taste was perfect too. The brett hits you strong upfront and followed by a bit of sourness but not much tartness. The herbal and grassy taste come through strong and at the end I get the peppercorn. I love the flavor - I take a sip, let it hit every taste bud I can find and it never offends but it is packed with tons of flavor, funkiness, and pure beauty.

The mouthfell is great. Lingers very long on the palate. Nowhere near light bodied but not too thick, just like a saison/farmhouse beer should be. The taste and mouth just linger and linger. This is everything I want in a saison/farmhouse beer. I LOVE the Brett. It reminds me a bit of a Jolly Pumpkin, like the Oro Callabaza, but with more funk and less sour.

I wish the price wasn't so high. $12 for 11.5 oz is steap. I would perfer 750ml of this at $15-$20. I would give it a 4.5 overall if it wasn't for the price.

For those of you that like saisons, you'll love this beer. If you haven't tried many of this style it may be too much. But, life, he said, is all about style!

Photo of gford217
3.83/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2oz bottle.

Pours a hazy golden orange with a big bubbly white head that recedes slowly to a thin collar and leaves some delicate lacing.

Aroma is bright with lemongrass, orange zest and light bretty funk. There is a spiciness from the peppercorns combined with the Belgian yeast.

The taste may be a bit spicier with the peppercorn and brett funk coming out more. There is some fruity sweetness and perfumy floral notes in the background with a dry, earthy finish.

Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied and dry with strong carbonation.

Overall, a nice drinkable saison with some spice and light funk.

Photo of Skrip
4.44/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into a Dogfish snifter

A~ hazy glowing orange with a crazy thick head. it almost looks like an ice cream float.

S~ very floral, peppercorn, bready yeast, and slightly tart.

T~ whoa! lots of hibiscus right up front. peppercorn, passion fruit, pineapple follow closely. finishes off with a nice tartness from the brett.

M~ very carbonated, smooth, and all around refreshing!

O~ i always love an amazing saison and this is right up there with some of the best HF's. if you really enjoy floral beers and teas like i do you will love this! it also reminds me of Fantome Saison but with hibiscus rather than jasmine and replace the smokeyness of the Fantome with brett. mmm...! how could you beat that!

Photo of rudzud
4.55/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Purchased this beer at the Hill Farmstead store in Greensboro, VT. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a crystal clear light amber hue with a one finger thick white blanket that leaves lots of thick, sticky side lacing. Really nice.

S - Smell is incredibly inviting. Theres not funky barnyard belgian saison notes with some funky brett as well. There is some slight malt sweetness, no hops to speak of. There is a very nice, inviting pepper aspect from the schezuan peppercorns.

T - Taste is just delicious. Great barnyard funk with the brett coming through for a subtle sourness that is not overwhelming at all. Infact it interplays wonderfully with the peppercorns. Some nice fruitness with the finish being big time schezuan peppercorns. Nice and peppery.

M - Mouthfeel is the only thing that didnt blow me away here. Knew it would happen when I cracked it and it was a slow attempt to bubble over. The feel is a bit flatter than I'd like but the pepperyness more than makes up for it. Super drinkable.

O - Overall I really, really enjoyed this saison. A great balance of funky and peppery spice with a hint of brett. Well worth the price I paid ($7?) and I really wish I had another bottle of this. Just delicious.

Photo of corby112
4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Draft at The Boilermaker in Philadelphia, PA.

Pours a cloudy dark golden yellow color with visible carbonation bubbling up and a two finger frothy off-white head that slowly fades into a lasting cap.  Streaks and chunks of soapy lacing left behind.

Funky aroma with zesty spice, ground proper flakes, light fruit and booze.  Can pick up the peppercorns but they don't overpower everything else.  Well integrated and nicely complimented by farmhouse yeast, light fruit and bread notes.

Medium bodied with a complex and interesting flavor profile.  Zesty, pepper spice and peppercorns up front provide some zesty heat.  Somewhat chalky mouthfeel and a slight bready yeast flavor that lingers over the other notes without overpowering everything.  Nice amount of heat over funky yeast, light fruit, citrus and bread.  Really well done pepper beer that's easy to drink.  Nice heat but no burn and the ABV is very well masked.

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Grassroots / Tired Hands Wachu Saison from Grassroots Brewing
91 out of 100 based on 103 ratings.