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Cascade The Vine - Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub

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BA SCORE
94
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721 Ratings
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Ratings: 721
Reviews: 186
rAvg: 4.22
pDev: 9.72%
Wants: 274
Gots: 220 | FT: 19
Brewed by:
Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  9.73% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
"This Northwest Style Sour Ale is a blend of soured Triple, Blonde Quad and Golden ales that have been refermented with the fresh pressed juice of white wine grapes. The beer spent more than six months of lactic fermentation and aging in small oak barrels. 9.2% ABV" - Raccoon Lodge website

ABV seems to vary, between 8.33-9.73%

(Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 02-07-2009)
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Photo of Phyl21ca
2/5  rDev -52.6%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Bottle: Poured cloudy muddy light brown color ale with a small bubbly head with no retention. Aroma of funky barnyard notes with some tart notes with some vile unrefined grainy notes. Taste is also quite a mess with loads of harsh grainy notes with some vile barnyard notes. Body is full with no carbonation. Either this bottle was off or I clearly don’t get this beer.

Phyl21ca, Oct 26, 2011
Photo of pawpaw
2/5  rDev -52.6%

pawpaw, Apr 22, 2014
Photo of harrymel
2.5/5  rDev -40.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

04AUG12 at barrel house. This vintage made with Muscat grapes.

Light yellow nearly still in appearance. Smells vinous, green apples, oak, some vinho verde, lime mist and a bit of leaves muddled into vodka soda. Flavor is too much like the grape - like a shitty wine intensly soured. Like a moscato that failed to make sure sanitation was meticulous when stunting a fermentation to retain residual sugars. A disappointment for me. Medium bodied with low carb and wet finish. I did not care for this one.

harrymel, Aug 07, 2012
Photo of DefenCorps
2.6/5  rDev -38.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Thanks for sharing this, Mike.

A brilliantly clear amber copper with a dense, off-white head with spectacular retention and lacing, this is a beautiful beer. The nose, OTOH, leaves me wanting. Very spicy, this is like pumpkin pie spices with some sweet, grape juice added to it. Sourness is present, rather clean, and it leaves me wanting some funk. The palate is similar, almost like an over-spiced Belgian Christmas ale soured with lacto. Despite this, it is pretty vinous. Medium-full in body with moderate carbonation, this is spicy and unpleasant on the finish. I really did not care for this at all.

DefenCorps, Mar 04, 2011
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2.6/5  rDev -38.4%

CBack465, Sep 13, 2014
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2.75/5  rDev -34.8%

atpca, Sep 29, 2014
Photo of Overlord
2.83/5  rDev -32.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Thanks chewy! Now, fly casual!

Pours a hazy, sediment-y burnished amber/orange. Big off-white head.

Smells ... off. Strangely medicinal and herbally. Ugh. There is some muted funk/horse blanket to it, and there is a vinous quality to the smell.

If I focus real hard on the flavor, I get a fantastic, really great vinous, grape-y, acidic undertone. Actually reminds me a bit of consecration. Unfortunately, there is an awful, medicinal herbal taste that is a constant presence. It even lingers as an aftertaste. I'd think I had an off bottle, but other people have noted it as well.

Quite disappointing. There's a base of a really good beer, but something has definitely gone off kilter.

Nice mouthfeel.

Overlord, Jun 14, 2009
Photo of largadeer
3/5  rDev -28.9%

largadeer, Apr 06, 2013
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3/5  rDev -28.9%

ygtbsm94, Jan 16, 2012
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3/5  rDev -28.9%

BIll_Currie, Jul 24, 2014
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3/5  rDev -28.9%

KevMo84, May 23, 2014
Photo of kscaldef
3/5  rDev -28.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

2008 vintage, purchased from the brewery a month ago.

A: Loud cork pop. Foams somewhat aggressively when poured, but recedes so quickly that it never accumulates to more than a half finger. Clear golden color

S: Pronounced apple-grape juice aroma when first poured. Then some spice, a little lactic tang

T: Mildly tart and lactic. Grapey with some peach and apricot notes. Slightly herbal / medicinal in the finish.

M: Low carbonation, pretty smooth in the mouth. Medium linger.

O: Seems that this might not be standing up to age. I generally enjoy this beer much more when fresher, but this bottle seems a bit simple. Nothing particularly wrong with it, no off-notes, but no complexity or interesting notes either. I'll need to make a point to review the new vintage at some point in the near future.

kscaldef, May 10, 2011
Photo of tai4ji2x
3.05/5  rDev -27.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

750ml bottle w cork and cage. no date. tasted in mid-may 2009.

poured into tulip. cork was very tight and hard to pull out.

deep amber honey color. gem clear on first pours. foamy, 1-finger off-white head, slowly fades to thin layer, constantly replenished by the duvel tulip's laser etching. amazing continuous curtain of lace.

aroma: lots of fruity muscat grape aroma, with hint of... mint (!?!) amongst the woody oak, mild funk and grassy hay. that menthol/eucalyptus character really dominates though...

taste: similar to aroma, nicely tart, but a bit overwhelmed again by that weird menthol character, persisting even into the otherwise tart and semi-dry finish with fruit tones.

medium body, with acidic and astringent textures. mild to moderate carbonation gives very slight tingle and fluffy lift, but it only ends up accentuating that annoying menthol/eucalyptus note!

what the hell ?!?

tai4ji2x, Aug 09, 2009
Photo of Arbitrator
3.15/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Chilled bottle into a glass. Shared by... me. Thanks Arbi. You're a good man.

A: Pours a cloudy orange-amber body in the glass, topped off by a half-finger of off-white head. It retains for maybe 30 seconds, receding in loud snaps and fizzles into a light cap and collar on the brew. Some lacing during sips, but nothing sticky.

S: Hard to miss the grapes and oak on this one. They're backed by lactic sourness and a bit of brett funk. What's unusual about this is that there's a strong spice component, like nutmeg and cinnamon, that reminds me of pumpkin pie minus the pumpkin. Craig pointed out that there's a general aroma of sweet yams. I'm inclined to agree.

T: Begins with some white grape sweetness, green apples, and caramel. It's lightly funky and strongly sour throughout. The biggest flavors are near the finish, which is drying and astringent through tannins and spice. Nothing super-complicated here, and it's a bit lacking in bacterial development / complexity (even attenuation -- lots of sugars here).

M: Light-bodied, with spritzy (is that a word? Mozilla doesn't like it) carbonation. Well-disguised ABV at 9%. Impressive.

D: I enjoyed it, but in the spectrum of sours I've had, it's near the average point. The spices are interesting, but they don't quite work with the grapes. From the description of what went into this beer, it seems like I should pick up more flavors than I do. At $20 a pop I'd go with one of the other Cascade beers or just a Russian River sour.

Note: it really astounds me that I pick up brett in this beer, as Curtis seemed very insistent on not using that in his beers. Is this accidental?

Arbitrator, Mar 11, 2010
Photo of 7ways
3.15/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Light pumpkin orange. Never seen a head disappear so fast on a beer that wasn't really old, I believe it was stark white. Swirling doesn't help; but it sure is loud, and throws up fizz like soda.

This smells more like white wine than beer, and reinforces my belief that grapes are one of the fruits that just do not belong in beer. Musty, wheaty, vinous and alcoholic. It smells more like old grapes as the beer warms.

Tastes much better than it smells, the grapes blend well, and there is another familiar fruit I can't place. It's well integrated and just the right amount of sour, but I can't help but think the sourness just covers up undesirable flavors. Once the beer warms and loses carbonation, this becomes very apparent.

Starts out very prickly, again like soda, which is great... but it dissipates quickly and by the end of the glass, after about 15-20 minutes, it was dead flat. This allowed those undesirable, unpleasantly musty flavors to really come through. Basically, drink it quick and it's a refreshingly dry winner.

7ways, Mar 10, 2011
Photo of smitty4657
3.18/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Little disappointed by this one - 2012 vintage - feel like it needs some age. There is a decent grape nose but the taste was overwhelmingly like Dimetapp and fruit juice. Might have been a bad bottle. Nice pour and smell though, as expected from Cascade.

smitty4657, Jan 14, 2014
Photo of jibbyvonjibb
3.23/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

vintage 2011
bottle
9.73%

A:Yellow. Slightly cloudy. Thin head.
S: Strong bretty funk of the claussenii variety (low-intensity British origin). Some pineapple. Citrus.
T: Taste follows suit. Cannot detect any grape flavors really. Or else they are overwhelmed by Brett notes. The sourness is well balanced.
M: Light body. Medium-high carbonation.
O: I was looking forward to this, but was dissapointed. The Brett funk overpowered this beer to the extent that I couldn't taste the fruit. Still pretty drinkable, but needs more subtlety of flavor. I'm still a huge fan of Cascade, but this is worse than I'm used to from them. Seek out the Blueberry instead.

jibbyvonjibb, Apr 08, 2012
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3.25/5  rDev -23%

mctizzz, Jun 14, 2014
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3.25/5  rDev -23%

Enochase04, Oct 18, 2014
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3.25/5  rDev -23%

chippo33, Jan 28, 2013
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3.25/5  rDev -23%

Zbeetleman, Jul 07, 2013
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3.25/5  rDev -23%

TheBeerTruck, Aug 21, 2013
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3.25/5  rDev -23%

kmos27, Sep 27, 2014
Photo of oregone
3.38/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It seems more solid by the score. Skipping the in depth notes on this. It carries the awesome cascade sour character, but smell and taste are driven by distinct sweet smelling and tasting jolly rancher (aka confected) grape. Love the brewery. This one just didnt do it for me.

oregone, Nov 10, 2010
Photo of Gueuzedude
3.38/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A solid pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces a three-finger thick, lightly tan colored head. The head leaves a nice layer of lace on the sides of the glass as it slowly subsides. The beer is a pretty, red-stained, copper color that shows a bright copper-gold color when held up to the light. The aroma smells quite sweet, with honey notes, a floral white-grape fruitiness, plus other aromatic notes of kiwi, ripe honeydew melon and ripe green apple note. Much of the sweetness that I noticed at first actually is contributed by the huge, aromatic ripe fruit character. The ripe fruitiness is almost too much here.

As I expected from the aroma, this beer is quite dry with very little sweetness. The tartness is not overly aggressive here, in fact much of it I would guess comes from the wine grapes, though there is certainly a lactic component here. This has a tropical fruit like note here that is I find in white wines at times. The finish has a bit of astringency and tannins from oak character, there is also a touch of heat from the alcohol, but this actually hides the alcohol pretty well for its strength. I am curious what grapes were used here, with the oak it can remind me of chardonnay, but the ample fruitiness reminds me a bit more of Sauvignon Blanc or Gewurztraminer. Floral tropical fruit notes with quite a bit of ripe melon are noticeable and while not as apparent as in the nose, still manage to be noticeable despite the lack of accentuating sweetness. Spicy, astringent oak adds some structure and bite to the finish that adds balance to the up front tartness and expressive dry fruitiness.

This is a far departure from the Sang Royale I had the other day. It doesn't have nearly the finesse or balance that that one had, but it is still pretty tasty. An interesting beer, I can see this appealing quite a bit to some people, but I don't seem to be one of those people unfortunately.

Gueuzedude, Jul 04, 2009
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Cascade The Vine from Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
94 out of 100 based on 721 ratings.