Cascade The Vine - Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub

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191 Reviews
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Reviews: 191
Hads: 811
rAvg: 4.1
pDev: 10.49%
Wants: 281
Gots: 226 | FT: 18
Brewed by:
Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  9.73% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 02-07-2009

"This Northwest Style Sour Ale is a blend of soured Triple, Blonde Quad and Golden ales that have been refermented with the fresh pressed juice of white wine grapes. The beer spent more than six months of lactic fermentation and aging in small oak barrels. 9.2% ABV" - Raccoon Lodge website

ABV seems to vary, between 8.33-9.73%
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Reviews: 191 | Hads: 811
Photo of Halcyondays
3.69/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750 mL bottle, 8.33% ABV,

A: Pours avery dark gold to orange-yellow, with a soft white head, good retention, mild spotty lace.

S: Great pure nose of lactic acid, direct and full. I also get a lot of lemon and some orange peel.

T: Heavy amount of lactic acid soaked musty fermented lemon. The underlying Belgian ale fruitiness comes out a lot more as the beer warms up bringing yellow apples and sourdough bread. Very Tempation-like.

M: High acidity, almost gets acrid at the finish, very dry and puckering. Extremely clean/no funk.

D: A sipper, the high acidity gives me no choice. I liked the beer, in the end though I think I wanted a little sugar/fruit to counterbalance the acid. I know there's grapes, but they're hard to find. A solid beer, interesting to try, but at $20 there are plenty of other AWA's and Cascades I'd rather get. (843 characters)

Photo of Onibubba
4.27/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Almost layered looking pour, darker on top, honey gold on the bottom. Quickly dissipating head leaves no lacing. Etching from the Duvel Tulip keeps the bubbles coming though. Despite the seeming stillness, this is a highly carbonated beer, prickly and high on the tongue. This mellows as the beer sits. First wafts had me fearful of an artificial grape sweetness - laffy taffy and sweet tarts. Thankfully, that fades. Nice lactic tartness, grape skins, very faint funk. Some hints of apple juice. A very mellow tart sipper, nothing in your face. Much better as the drink warms allowing more character of the oak, and at long last, the alcohol to shine through. For a nearly 9% beer, you would never know it. Class act all around. (729 characters)

Photo of saintwarrick
4.32/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a cloudy light-watermelon color with a thin lacing of white on the head. Nose is full of peach and passion fruits, like some dry champagnes. Taste is tart but not overly sour, peach, mango and tangerine/lime come through in the taste. Finishes with a nice bite of sourness, and the somewhat stronger alcohol content never really comes through. Excellently crafted brew, definitely worth a shot for any sour lovers. (420 characters)

Photo of djbreezy
4.47/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured out of a 750mL into a snifter.

appearance - pours a hazy orange, yellow, low head with strong retention on the sides, moderate trails of lacing

smell - dominant grape, funk, oak notes, wine-like

taste - complex barrel notes, big grape profile, very tart

mouthfeel - medium/full body, highly carbonated, a bit of a bite

drinkability - a very tasty sour, complex, enlightening, i got distracted while drinking it and forgot to fill out the taste section for about 15 minutes...it's incredibly good (507 characters)

Photo of ShadesOfGray
4.54/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

What a snug little cork this one was! Wow, took about 5 minutes to remove, not using any tools of course. Poured from a cork and caged 750ml bottle. Pours a bright yellow, yet pale and clear color. Fills the glass closer to a goldenrod. A fizzy decent size head rises quickly and dissipates just as quick. Fizzy bubbles continue to rise as the beer sits. Very light fizzy lacing, that slides very quickly down the sides of the glass. Not a real looker this beer.

Aroma is full of tartness, funkiness, lemon zest, oak...reminds me of Captain Lawrence Cuvee de Castleton! This smells great!

Wow! This beer is delicious! So tart! Most Cascade beers I've had so far have been closer to a flanders style, so I guess that's what I expected. On the contrary, it's a great sour...much like a gueuze. Flavor is very, very tart...with tons of oakiness. Mouthfeel is light and crisp, with good carbonation, and very low booze is noticeable, surprising for the ABV listed! Again, WOW! This beer completely surprised me and is delicious! (1,026 characters)

Photo of DavoleBomb
4.24/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a tulip. Big thanks to DaveJanssen for a chance to try this.

3.0 A: Pours a slightly hazed radiant yellow brown. Two fingers of fizzy white head die off quickly like a can of Coke.

4.0 S: Woody vanilla and Chardonnay strike first. There's also a cinnamon-like spiciness along with a touch of pepper. Green apple, lemon, and of course white grape fruitiness. Acids on minimal.

4.5 T: Wood and vanilla again are most easily identifiable again. Sour apple, lemon, hay, sour white grapes come next. Lactic acid makes a moderately strong appearance. Spiciness is a touch of pepper and perhaps a smaller touch of clove. Very nice with a reasonable amount of sourness and low astrigency.

4.0 M: Light body. Good amount of carbonation that tickles the tongue. Smooth, but could be a bit creamier.

4.5 D: Complementarily complex and tasty. Good beer. Not overly sour, but just well made with a good recipe. (916 characters)

Photo of cbros
4.26/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Serving type- 750 mL bottle poured into a flute glass.

A- Pours a beautiful rich deep orange color. The head starts of with a nice 3 finger white lace that only goes a finger and has stuck around throughout the beer. There is a nice cling to the glass and a very evident carbonation activity. Overall a very nice looking beer, one of the best ones I have reviewed.

S- The nose starts off with a tart that becomes a little muted by the presence of the grape notes.

T- This is one sour tasting beer. It backs up into some grape tartness. This taste masks the high ABV found in this beer. There is also a hint of funkness that I am unable to accurately describe.

Picked a bottle of this up at the local bottle shop. This is a good beer and I look forward to trying other offerings from Cascade. (797 characters)

Photo of sisuspeed
4.19/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Happy to see that this is now in MA. The cork was quite difficult to get off, but when it popped, it really popped. This specific beer was a bit of gusher, but luckily we didn't lose too much of it. The Vine pours a light golden yellow-orange body with a big foamy white head that quickly dies off. Light lacing left behind.

A bit of sour funk, white grapes and oak barrels on the nose. Some ethanol and other citrus fruits. Sweet malts. I'm really liking the grapes.

The taste is sweet, sour, white grapes aging on oak. Pretty much like the bottle says. Crisp oranges and citrus. A touch of ethanol. Kind of like citrus Sweet Tarts. The flavor is quite good, but could use a little more complexity.

Mouthfeel is smooth and slick, with light, spritzy carbonation. Reminds me a bit of blending carbonated white wine with a bit of orange. Slight creaminess.

Drinkability is very good especially for the ABV. Nice sourness (lactic) without going overboard. On the sweeter side, which may cut down on drinkability a little bit. Wishing there was a little more complexity to the beer, but its still quite tasty. Worth seeking out, especially if you like white grapes. (1,166 characters)

Photo of flannelman808
3.97/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This bottle says its at an abv of 8.33% not the 9.2% of yore...
don't know if anything else about the brew has changed...

A: pours a somewhat hazy orange/yellow color and is topped with a thin white head. Some lacing there, but pretty thin overall.

S: Sour and spice! Almost too tart to get my nose in there. Sour grapes and red current. There is some funk going on there as well on the back.

T: Light and first and heavy on the finish... weird. Lemon peel and chili flakes? also im getting grannysmith apple in there. However its notable that there is certainly a strange spicy heat quality after the dominating citrus flavor (maybe clove/cinnamon). Definitely some funk going on there as well. All around there is quite a bit going on here.

M: prickly and spicy

D: medium to high (788 characters)

Photo of hopsbreath
4.32/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A rare sour beer on tap at the brewpub for $5 a glass at their Summer Solstice Celebration. 2009 vintage. How could I pass this up!

The slightly murky golden meyer lemon body has a nice wispy white ring of foam that clings to the side of the glass just atop the liquid body. No lacing is apparent but that is typical of the style. The murkiness makes it slightly better looking than average. 3.5/5

Smell is definitely soured grapes and a heavy touch of wood. Some musky blanket that spent a little time in a stable resounds as an echo. 4/5 because of the grapey uniqueness.

Strong tart grapes dominate the palate. Lots of smoked wood and vanilla are in abundance as well. This beer truly blurs the lines between beer and wine. Regrettably I don't have a better palate for wine or I think I would better be able to appreciate this beer. As it stands, I believe this might be the most enjoyable sour I have ever tasted to date. 4.5/5

Mouthfeel and drinkability are super at the 8.3% ABV. 4.5/5. This is a really fine beer that I am so glad is fairly easily accessible for me. Even at the fairly pricey point of $16 a 750 I will be buying a few of these for future consumption and ordering this on tap at future visits to Cascade. (1,233 characters)

Photo of jampics2
4.49/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle from a generous trader. Thanks to you, kind sir! Split with friends at Arp's tasting! Into the glass you go, rare sour beer!! This bottle was 1 and 1/2 years old when tasted. Served at around 45 degrees.

Cloudy golden orange in color. Very little head when poured and no head retention. Not the best appearance, but the beer itself looks good.

Smell is amazing. Great white grapes, honey, ginger, allspice, maybe a hint of mint. Mild lactic in the nose if any, this is really unique, unexpected, and quite good!

OK, now for tonight's feature presentation, the taste. The Vine starts off with an herbal touch and tons of dry grapes. Much like a white wine. Touch of wood, and some more sweetness from the grapes. Like a mixture between a chardonnay's oakiness and a sauvignon's sweetness. Lacto makes a it's presence known.

Mouthfeel was sparkly and just a bit light in the body. Strong beer gets a 4 for drinkability. But I loved this, a really unique and lovely beer. We all agreed it was a standout in a fine tasting, and I'd love to get a shot at this again, perhaps with a nice food pairing (seafood). Wonderful American Wild from Cascade, I'm bringing Sang Royal to the next tasting! (1,208 characters)

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Exiled for sharing this bottle. It was part of a great tasting that included seven bottled Cascade sours.

The beer pours a hazy medium-yellow with a white head. The aroma is white wine and ginger ale. The flavor is heavy on the white wine with some herbs including rosemary and ginger. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. (337 characters)

Photo of muttyd
4.4/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Orange/straw body with a thick fluffy white head.

S - Very complex. Tropical sweet fruits, some vinegar/wine sourness, slight mint/bubblegum alcohol.

T - Sour apples, vanilla/oak sweetness, caramel, and slight funk.

M - Creamy body with a dry astringent finish.

D - Very drinkable, alcohol extremely well hidden. (320 characters)

Photo of olympuszymurgus
4.77/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Fredfest 2010 WWFD.

What more can be said about the Vine? its golden, sour, awesome, and ridiculous. Ron is a master of the barrel, and he will gladly show you the genesis of his genius. this beer is what other sour beers shoudl dream of being, for it will smack you with its citrusy summer sourness, while still whispering sweet nothings in your ear.

I camped by the keg, getting far more refills late in the evening that I should have. I returned for the last one, and the keg was killed. A beautiful lady offered me hers, she was not a fan. I asked her for her hand in marriage, her husband never heard. This beer will drive you to moments of maddened love and confused mornings.

Love the barrels sir, I love the barrels. (739 characters)

Photo of PDXHops
4.75/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

750 ml bottle, poured into a Duvel tulip at cellar temperature.

See-thru light amber with a tornado of fizzy carbonation up the middle of the glass. This feeds a frothy off white head that sticks around impressively and leaves sheets of lacing.

Loads of tart fruit in the nose- underripe white grapes, lemons, Granny Smith apples. Light wet hay funk, a bit earthy. Sweet oak lingers in the background.

Wonderfully flavorful. Starts with those tart white grapes and a bit of vinegar, then develops a small amount of apple sweetness, cloves and lemon juice. The oak meshes superbly with the tartness and fruit. At times it's a little funky, at other times hints of crisp graininess show up for a moment or two. A bit of sweetness somewhat akin to a gingersnap cookie at times. Seems to change from sip to sip, making it hard to pin down all the flavors. Challenging and extremely enjoyable.

Extremely flavorful, yet quite delicate. Smooth midswallow and dry at the finish, leaving nothing but a bit of white grape skin tartness behind.

Overall impression: This is my idea of a great wild ale- no nasty brett, but plenty of sour goodness and fruitiness with a touch of funk. I traded away my only surplus bottle, but I'll have to correct that mistake the first chance I get. (1,278 characters)

Photo of Arbitrator
3.17/5  rDev -22.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Chilled bottle into a glass. Shared by... me. Thanks Arbi. You're a good man.

A: Pours a cloudy orange-amber body in the glass, topped off by a half-finger of off-white head. It retains for maybe 30 seconds, receding in loud snaps and fizzles into a light cap and collar on the brew. Some lacing during sips, but nothing sticky.

S: Hard to miss the grapes and oak on this one. They're backed by lactic sourness and a bit of brett funk. What's unusual about this is that there's a strong spice component, like nutmeg and cinnamon, that reminds me of pumpkin pie minus the pumpkin. Craig pointed out that there's a general aroma of sweet yams. I'm inclined to agree.

T: Begins with some white grape sweetness, green apples, and caramel. It's lightly funky and strongly sour throughout. The biggest flavors are near the finish, which is drying and astringent through tannins and spice. Nothing super-complicated here, and it's a bit lacking in bacterial development / complexity (even attenuation -- lots of sugars here).

M: Light-bodied, with spritzy (is that a word? Mozilla doesn't like it) carbonation. Well-disguised ABV at 9%. Impressive.

D: I enjoyed it, but in the spectrum of sours I've had, it's near the average point. The spices are interesting, but they don't quite work with the grapes. From the description of what went into this beer, it seems like I should pick up more flavors than I do. At $20 a pop I'd go with one of the other Cascade beers or just a Russian River sour.

Note: it really astounds me that I pick up brett in this beer, as Curtis seemed very insistent on not using that in his beers. Is this accidental? (1,645 characters)

Photo of drumrboy22
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Pullen for the bottle. Poured from 750mL bottle into an Urthel chalice. Beer was a clear, orange color, with a one-finger, off-white head. Moderate carbonation and lacing around the glass.

Aroma was grapes, apples, lemons, earth, grass, must, barnyard and wood.

Taste was lemon, light funk and sour fruits. Very dry, yet drinkable.

Well crafted beer. A tough one for me to track down, but well worth the trouble. (427 characters)

Photo of Ek0nomik
4.67/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured In: Snifter Glass
Ordered directly from the brewery.

Appearance: Poured from a 750mL bottle, caged and corked. The pour is a cloudy dark carrot orange and amber color. The beer was starting to gush out of the bottle, so I immediately poured it into my snifter. A finger of head was produced, with moderate head retention. As I drink the beer, the lace comes and goes. When it does show up, it forms in thick sheets.

Smell: The nose picks up a hint of funky horse blanket, but it isn't the primary component. It smells dry and tart. The lactic fermentation should show itself well on the palate. Otherwise, the rest of the nose is fruity; tart green apples and grapes make up the rest. As the beer warmed up a small dose of alcohol came through on the nose, but, again, very minimal. This beer has an extremely pleasant nose. With every sip I can't help but take a big whiff.

Taste: The palate starts right out with a tart, astringent and lactic flavor. The malt flavor doesn't really present itself throughout any of the tasting. It's really just a backbone to the fruit and sour flavors. From the haziness of the beer, I'd suspect that some wheat was used, as well as some German malts.

The next flavor to show up is some tart fruit; it's a mixture of grapes and green apples. Again, a very nice combination of flavors on the palate. The finish of the beer isn't dry, it still has some fruit and malt sweetness to finish it out. The aftertaste of the beer actually does bring out some citrus flavors. Dare I say, a little bit of grapefruit lingers on my teeth and gums. Out. Standing.

Mouthfeel: A very well carbonated beer. The beer is gently carbonated making it easy on the tongue. It has a thin to medium body.

Drinkability: This is a weekend beer for sure. The feel, aroma, and palate are all fantastic. This is winner number two from Cascade. I'm surprised their beers have so few reviews. (1,909 characters)

Photo of JohnGalt1
4.32/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 picked up at John's Marketplace and Belmont Station... reviewed from 2 sets of paper notes.

Nice long lasting khaki head.. the brew is pretty clear lite amber.

Nose has herbal qualities that both times I've had a really hard time placing... sorta minty.. oaky.. green apple

the same herbal element is more involved in the palate... a bit antiseptic tongue numbing lite clove... grassy.. sour is pretty lactic with some tannins that really dry it out on the finish.. an interesting sorta musky overtone begins toward the front of the palate and follows through to the finish.. never really got the "grapes" but friends say I am missing it.. the "minty" aspect ties this one up for me. Pretty drinkable in the respect that I want another sip just to try and place the huge mix of what all is going in to this one.

This is not a sour lover's sour.. instead a nice mash-up that has waves of stuff going on... pleasing and super complex... though probably just not for everyone.

I need to drink another of these, but am down to my last couple of bottles.... I would be interested to see what a couple of years in a cool cellar would do.

4/4.5/4.5/4/4 (1,155 characters)

Photo of RedDiamond
4.35/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Comparing The Vine to other beer styles quickly proves challenging. But it is a treat to drink. It begins with a vigorous de-corking that unleashes an ale of near rabid carbonation. The beer is simple amber with a soft white head. The aroma suggests grapes, ginger, and grains of paradise. The taste is oaken and dry but not overly sour or acidic. It variously resembles a tart apple soda and a white wine, perhaps champagne.

Overall, a mellow yet complex arrangement that demands leisurely appreciation. Just be advised that the bottle will release plenty of suspended yeast as you draw low on it, and thick gobs of it may drop out at the bottom. (650 characters)

Photo of rye726
4.39/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours sandy brown with a silky tan head. Excellent lacing and retention.

Interesting noe has herbal spices, white wine grapes, oak, tart apples and subtle manure/horse blanket presence.

Taste is quite vinous with sour tropical fruits, white wine, wood, caramel malts and again just a bit of barnyard funk.

Crisp body is well carbonayed. Nice dry, acidic finish.

Another great sour from Cascade. Superb balance, drinks well. (428 characters)

Photo of vacax
3.63/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle, corked and caged. $18 from The Wine Country. Took a bit of work to get the cork out before a huge pop at the end.

Pours very bubbly at first, then slowed down. Ended up with about two fingers of white head that died down into a film on top and a ring around the glass with around a centimeter thick ring of residual lacing all around. Liquid is an orange amber almost apple juice color.

It smells spiced, actually quite heavy on a clove note. Lactic tartness is definitely present, some light fruitiness there, grapes, but more like table fruit than wine. The flavor starts sweet and tart, then the sourness grows and grows throughout the midpalate and finish. A bit of funk pops up in there too. In the end, quite sour. That clove note hits in the middle, and the fruit sweetness is there throughout. Feel is light and spritzy, just right.

Some nice stuff here, but could use some more complexity beyond the sweet grapes, clove, and sour factor. (964 characters)

Photo of nickd717
3.9/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from City Beer in SF.

A - Pours hazy golden in color with a fluffy white head.

S - Aroma is very nice, fairly tart and lactic with white white, oak, and fruity esters.

T - Lactic tartness, white grapes, oak, sour green apple, and citrus. Alcohol noticeable but not too much for the ABV.

M - Palate nice and fairly acidic with medium body and somewhat high carbonation.

D - Above average. This beer is pretty good overall, but not the best from Cascade. A bit expensive at $20+. (489 characters)

Photo of Docer
4.33/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had a slightly aged bottle of this last night.... the website dumped its database, and wiped my review of this... so here it goes from memory.

- Looked like a slightly cloudy bright orange and golden IPA... large fluffy white head quickly down to a scatter of white lace maker.. and lacing all about.

- Fruity zingy lemon zest, tart sourness, grain... and a bi of funk. Some hay and earthiness in there.

- Wonderful complex flavor of grain, slight funk, tart and yet smooth... and the grapes... love the currants in the background. Fantastic from start to finish.... and boy how it changes all in just only 1 gulp.

- Slightly dry, but so zesty, the mouth waters....

- Super drinkable, and not a mind blowing sour bomb. Lacked any vinegar flavor at all which I like in a sour.... seriously a must try for any person wanting to try sours.. or even a sour master! (865 characters)

Photo of DiabolikDUB
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from Bottle into Tulip glass.

Pours a murky, muddled medium orange with a big fluffy but broken white head that remains atop the glass as its drank. Aroma is tart with green apple and grapes with some slight funk and vanilla notes. The flavor is sweet upfront and then turns immediately tart with sour fruit and the sourness is fairly moderate and pleasant. Its light bodied and very crisp and effervescent. I really find this beer intriguing. Its very delicate and refined. Definitely one of the more moderate sours I've had from Cascade and is certainly another top notch beverage. (591 characters)

Cascade The Vine from Cascade Brewing / Raccoon Lodge & Brewpub
91 out of 100 based on 191 ratings.