Lichtenhainer - Westbrook Brewing Co.

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very good

90 Ratings
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Ratings: 90
Reviews: 33
rAvg: 3.93
pDev: 12.98%
Wants: 19
Gots: 16 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Westbrook Brewing Co. visit their website
South Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
Berliner Weissbier |  4.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: thagr81us on 02-14-2011

This is our interpretation of the traditional German Lichtenhainer Weisse style – a pale, sour, and smokey wheat ale. Beechwood smoked malt contributes a subtle bacon/ham aroma, followed by substantial lactic tartness backed up by doughy, grainy wheat. Prost!

4 IBU
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Ratings: 90 | Reviews: 33
Reviews by jlindros:
Photo of jlindros
3.82/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to kkipple for this one, shared with lots of great friends.

As I open it the bottle erupts but we catch most of it. There is a light fizzy head, hazy lemony yellow color.

Nose has light smoke, sour malts, light lemon zest and lemongrass, little tart and hint of wild funk, little yeasty and bready, light smoked bacon like that grows the more I smell it, sweet maple and even a little honey.

Taste has wheat to start, some sour tart lemony flavors, lemongrass, etc. Lots of smoke flavor but not overbearing, smoked bacon again, then some yeast, light funk, smooth light fruity and tart, acidity. Finish is dry, some yeast and hint of funk, acidity, tart lemon fruit, long but light and some smokey bacon.

Mouth is med bodied, lower carb since it erupted.

Overall OK, interesting and some nice characters and decent profile but not an amazing beer like it had the potential to.

More User Reviews:
Photo of russpowell
3.96/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Picked this up in Colorado

Pours an effervescent gold with a sliver of cream colored head. Above average lacing, below average head retention

S: Sourness, smokeyness,

T: Tartness, smokeyness, sourness & grapefruit up front. More tartness as this warms, slight lemon citric notes, pears cherries & dryness as this warms. Finishes tart, moreish with faint smokeyness & grapefruit

MF: Medium bodied, delicate carbonation

Very drinkable, the smokeyness is restrained enough to make this something I could stay on a while

Photo of thagr81us
3.61/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had during Brewvival 2012! Served from tap into a Brewvival sampler imperial pint. Poured yellow with a half finger white head that subsided to a minimal amount slowly. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, wheat, smoke, and skunk. The flavor was of sweet malt, skunk, wheat, smoke, and earth. It had a light feel on the palate with medium-high carbonation. Overall this was a decent brew. Out of all the offerings by Westbrook on the day, this one was my least favorite. I know that Berliners are supposed to be earthy by nature, but this one was just a little over the top in my opinion, maybe it was the smoke giving this effect... Not a lot of real balance going on here unfortunately. I still stand by the fact that Westbrook is brewing great things, but this one wasn't as great as I was hoping it would be. Still decent, but defniitely not their best out there. Worthy of seeking out for the true Berliner fan though.

Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
2/5  rDev -49.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Bomber to tulip
Sampled 31JUL12
Bottled FEB132012

Thanks to rbradley (a fantastic trader) for the extra!

[A] Enormous pop upon uncorking. The head is strikingly white, foamy & airy and about 3 fingers high. Quick to deflate, the head is reduced to a thin bubbly surface, being sustained only by the persistent effervescence - which is highly visible. The body is a soft golden yellow, rich and vibrant. Great hue. Hazy with low transparency. No lacing.

[S] The beechwood smoked malt stands out above all else - including lacto and Brett. (Although I'm not even sure if the folks at Westbrook used Brett in this beer.) Salty ham, mesquite smoked bacon and some lacto buried underneath. Somewhat conflicting.

[T] The influence of bacteria takes control of the front end flavor. Beechwood smoke settles in next, then the wheaty base.

[M] Violent carbonation bites hard on the tongue. A few aggressive swirls are needed to bring the effervescence in line. Once you get past that, the light body is enhanced by a lemony vinegar-like acidity, providing a snappy refreshment. The intense bubbles add to a dry, very crisp finish. The acidity, however, keeps the salivary glands working in overdrive.

[O] Lichtenhainer is ABSOLUTELY a food pairing beer. In fact, I wouldn't want it any other way. The label suggests pretzels, wurst, sauerkraut and good mustard. All of the above sounds like the perfect compliment - but on its own merits, the beer isn't very easy to enjoy.
Nonetheless, I'm very happy to have had the opportunity to try this obscurity.

Photo of jsanford
4.77/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

On-tap at Brewvival 2011. As a huge Berliner Weisse fan, this is one I've been looking forward to. Basically a smoked Berliner Weisse.

Pours a cloudy golden straw with a thin white head. Aromas and flavors of toasted grain, lemon peel, wheat, and green apples with a subtle hit of smoke and a lovely lactic tartness that works so well with the smoke. Incredibly crisp and refreshing with a thin body and sharp carbonation. This was my absolute favorite beer of the day, and possibly one of my favorite beers ever. This needs to be brewed full-time, year-round!

Photo of Immortale25
4.1/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Haw River Farmhouse Ales teku glass. No date under where it says "Bottled On."

A- Pours a light amber color with a 1/4 inch off-white head that retains decently before becoming a thin ring around the edge of the glass and a small center patch of bubbly surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves a broken ring behind.

S- Simultaneous waft of cherrywood smoke and moderate tart aroma.

T- Taste folows closely to the aroma with a semi-tart onset that abruptly turns to a firm smokiness. The smoke lingers in the aftertaste and is sweeter than the smoke I'm used to being in rauchbiers. Definitely tastes like bacon and cured ham...and hot dogs! That's really the main taste you get from this, especially after multiple sips.

M- Dry with medium carbonation and a lightish body.

O- Took me a while to pinpoint it, but this beer definitely tastes the most like hot dogs than any other I've had. It's pretty much the main component while the tartness provides some complexity to keep it from being too one-sided. I'm not usually a fan of smoked beers but this one isn't too smoky and the smoke that is there has a different characteristic than the usual "campfire" variety.

Photo of largadeer
4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pale and milky straw colored body capped by a thin but retaining head. Very meaty, sour aroma, like leftover ham that's been in the fridge for a week too long. There's a bit of raw wheat in the background, but it's faint. Palate feels more harmonious than the nose, with a bigger sour lacto character that brings flavors of yogurt and lemon flesh. There's a grainy wheat undercurrent that lends body and an enjoyable tang. Smoke is present, but it isn't as meaty; it takes a backseat to the grain and lacto. Pretty enjoyable stuff overall. Strange at first, but ultimately refreshing and enjoyable.

Photo of DrinkSlurm
3.97/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Closed4business.
Pours a hazy wheaty golden...slight head. Smell is of citrusy smoked wheat. Really different.
Taste is first of a lemony citrus followed by a tart smokeyness and ends with a cashew flavor. Really nice.
Overall, one of the most unique of the style. Really creative and good tasting - a great combination!

Photo of Andy1012
3.92/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this beer at World of Beer in Columbia. This is the first time I have tried a smoked weisse. It poured a hazy, light yellow gold with a thin, light head. Smelled strongly of acid, smoked ham, and wheat. Initially, this beer tasted exactly like sauerkraut to me until it warmed up a bit. Then, I would liken its taste to a green apple covered in ham hock fat with a lemon wedge on top. It was certainly unique, but I can't say I enjoyed this beer tremendously. My girlfriend who is more of a fan of strong dark beers couldn't drink this beer saying it tasted like vomit and I could certainly see where she was coming from so this is definitely not for everyone..

Photo of aasher
4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Courtesy of thagr81us, thanks Calton! Wedding week beer!

This one pours a light bodied and cloudy peachy gold in color. The nose is both lightly tart and has plenty of hammy aromas. It's very hammy. The flavors are truer to the style with light tartness, citrusy acidity, with a more mellow ham presence. It's nice and interesting. I'm glad there is a lemony, citrus presence to combat the smoked beechwood malt. It drinks light but being in a bomber, I don't think I could finish off a bottle by myself. This was another good effort from Westbrook.

Photo of zac16125
3.82/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle into a tulip
no bottled on date (bottled on date space on the label left blank)


A: Pours a hazy, nearly opaque, dark yellow/brownish color; looks like of nasty actually. Less than 1/2 a fingers width of bright tan head builds but quickly dissipates away and leaves zero lacing. 2.75

S: It smells like ham, seriously, exactly like ham with the salty and meaty characteristics. There is some tartness and very subtle wheat on the back end. I don’t know what to think really. Its certainly like no other beer I’ve ever experienced. I like the aroma, its quite pleasant, but I don’t know how I feel about this aroma coming from a beer. I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt because it is pleasant, and very unique. 3.75

T: Wow, much much more tart than I anticipated. Probably the most sour berliner weisse I’ve ever had. Lots of wheat characters as well. The huge ham-like character from the aroma is more muted in taste, although there are some smokey notes on the finish and a meat-esque character that grows throughout the drink. 4

M/D: Medium body, heavy carbonation, filling (presumably from the wheat and carbonation combo), drinkability is on the lower end due to the huge tartness. 3.5

O: My senses are terribly confused. This is like nothing I have ever had. I guess the components pair well together, I am enjoying it, but primarily due to the huge lactic tartness/sour characters. Not sure how much the smokiness/meaty characters do for me. I appreciate the uniqueness though. This is probably something I would drink again. I would definitely recommend it to anyone who is bored with the standard beer offerings and whats to try something new and different. 4

Photo of Thorpe429
3.75/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to beerbyrd for sending me out a few bottles of this. Served in a Mikasa tulip.

Pours a slightly-cloudy bright yellow-golden color with a single-finger white head that fades down to a thin collar fairly quickly without leaving much in the way of lacing.

The nose contains a good dose of smoke and wheat, though the smoke isn't completely over the top. It's certainly the dominant component though. As it warms up the smoke gives way to a light woodiness along with some light acidity.

The flavor is a good combination of smoke and wheat with a nice tartness coming through the finish. A touch of lemon in the background. Body is light and crisp with fairly-high carbonation.

An interesting concept and a fairly enjoyable beer. If only the nose were as nicely balanced as the flavor.

Photo of ChrisTHE
3.38/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance-Poured with a decent white head although it didn't last long. Color was around a four on the color scale with a hint of an orange tint.

Smell- A nice aroma for such as strange beer.

Taste- Smoke flavor was a bit overpowering but the sour wheat was present enough to get a solid taste

Mouth fee- lt was about medium.

Overall- As far as the complexity and uniqueness of this beer goes for what it is, it's top notch. As for my personal taste, I was unable to finish. Don't get me wrong, I like sour beers and I like smoke beers but, not rolled into one

Photo of WckdVbz
3/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Just an okay beer, in my opinion.

Photo of avalon07
3.97/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a pale yellow color and a hazy texture. There was an inch of fizzy head that quickly dissipated. Almost no lacing to speak of.

S: A fruity aroma, with a definite smoky quality as well.

T: Tasted of light fruit (lemon, apples), wheat, malt, and the aforementioned smokiness. Definitely unusual, with the inclusion of the smoke, this is an odd flavor that's hard to pin down.

M: A fair amount of carbonation with a smooth finish. Light- to medium-bodied.

O: This beer is definitely a strange little experiment. Not bad, and worth trying for the novelty, but probably not something I'd drink on a regular basis.

Photo of Zach136
4.46/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Hazy toasted yellow no head

Aroma and flavor are bacon and ham doused with lemon juice. Vinegar based BBQ sauce in smoked meat. Really cool balance of sour and smoke.

Mouthfeel is light and refreshing, no harsh lingering flavors from the smoke. Very approachable and well done! Don't know if it's true to style, because this is the first I've ever had. I love it regardless.

Photo of JISurfer
3.87/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This is my first experience with a Berliner Weissbier, so it's hard to judge it against other ones in with in the style. Got this on draft at the Charleston Beer Exchange. It was a slightly hazy straw color, kind of a light fizzy head. Smell was more malt than hop and VERY citrusy, mostly of the lemon variety. Taste was very similar to the smell, but had a sourness that slaps you in the face with a slight smokiness to the finish. This was a nice style to try out, I think it would go great with the warmer months, hopefully they continue to make this through the summer.

Photo of Duff27
4.29/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A- Cloudy light peach/pink and color body. Cap and collar.

S- Smells to me like Sweet Baby Rays, yum. Wish the aroma would be in my nostrils forever.

T- Smoke turns to sour. Tarty but not too sour. Highly drinkable.

M- Prickly carbonation, medium mouthfeel for the style.

D/O- Really really enjoyed this one. In theory this sounded delicious to me and Westbrook delivers. Would love taking a bomber down myself on a hot summer evening. Thanks Zuidman!

Photo of brentk56
4.29/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a cloudy pale yellow color with a wispy head that leaves a few dots here and there

Smell: Bready, tart and slightly smoky

Taste: As it smells, tart and bready, up front, with a gentle smoky character that develops, mid-palate, and becomes more discernable in the finish

Mouthfeel: Light body with moderate to high carbonation

Overall: Really interesting take on the style (wouldn't expect anything less from Westbrook); very refreshing in the hot weather

Photo of rudzud
4.1/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to JLindros for sharing this bottle.

A - Poured into a stone ipa tulip glass a hazy straw hue super light with a thin head.

S - Aromas of nice light sour aromas and such with gentle smoke notes like a light bacon super light and fresh.

T - Taste is a nice light funky sour with gentle.lemons and subtle meaty funk and smoke. Super tasty.

M - Mouthfeel is very carbonated almost like a champagne which matches nicely with the sour funk.

O - Overall I really enjoyed this beer and I'm glad JLindros shared it. Defijately one of my favourite wiesse beers.

Photo of ATLbeerDog
3.75/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on FEB 13 2012

Pours a cloudy yellow/orange with a small but impressive white head that dissipates quickly. Smells of fairly strong smoke with just a hint of sourness buried in the burnt rubble of a nose. First sip is equally dominated by both sour and smoke and that’s way cool. There is plenty of wheat present supported by bacon and lemon flavors. Mouthfeel is spot on as it is light to medium carbonated which is just fine for this 5% ABV beer. I doubt this puppy would get more sour over time nor do I think it will age well. Not something I would seek out again but I salute Westbrook for pushing the envelope and producing this fairly obscure style.

Photo of mdfb79
3.9/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

From 03/30/12 notes. Bottle shared by Thorpe429 to start off our mini-Westbrook tasting. Poured into a tulip. Bottled on 02/13/12.

a - Pours a murky, pale yellow color with one inch of bright white head and moderate carbonatioin evident.

s - Smells of bananas, smoked malts, fruity malts, and light sour tropical fruits. Interesting mix but pretty cool.

t - Tastes of bananas, smoked malts, sour citrus hops, lemon, sour tropical fruits, fruity malts. Again very nice. A little better then the nose with the citrus.

m - Light, thin body and low carbonation. Docking it a little in the body as it is a bit too thin and watery.

o - Overall one of the most interesting berliner's I've had. Some definite sourness to it, especially in the taste, but not too much as the smoked malts come out a bit as well. Pretty nice, I imagine exactly what they were going for.

Photo of drabmuh
4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A smoked berlinerweiss? OK, I'll try it. I think Mike provided this one at a recent tasting. Beer is yellow and hazy with a thin lazy white head of small bubbles, some lacing, moderate to low carbonation, looks OK.

Aroma is surprising, all smoke, it isn't like sniffing a campfire but it is definitely there.

Beer is light in body and the lactic character cuts through the smoke and makes for an interesting beer, notice I didn't say excellent beer, I said interesting, it is definitely worth a look. I think the flavors actually go well together but I doubt this is a repeat for me.

Photo of RochefortChris
3.97/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.25

Poured with a decent white head although it didn't last long. Color was around a four on the color scale with a hint of an orange tint as well as a nice aroma. Smoke flavor was a bit overpowering but the sour wheat was present enough to get a solid taste with a medium mouth feel. As far as the complexity and uniqueness of this beer goes for what it is, it's top notch. As for my personal taste, I was unable to finish. Don't get me wrong, I like sour beers and I like smoke beers but, not rolled into one

Photo of MasterSki
3.59/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A smoked Berliner Weiss eh? Thanks Mike (Thorpe429) for the share. Served in a tulip.

A - Quick-dissolving white foam settles to nothing. Hazy pale yellow body.

S - Smoked malts and lactic sourness - pretty much what you'd expect from the description. Some wheat, grain, and sour mash flavors.

T - Taste is a little less interesting, as the smoke tends to dominate the palate. There's only some mild lactic sourness present, but it's mostly smoked meats and campfire. Still, pretty enjoyable.

M - Medium body, lower carbonation, and a mildly slimy texture.

D - An interesting, albeit not totally successful, take on the Berliner Weiss genre. I'd drink this again, but I wouldn't take the time to actively track it down.

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