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Heritage Traditional Dark - Kichesippi Beer Co.

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Heritage Traditional DarkHeritage Traditional Dark

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BA SCORE
75
okay

25 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 25
Reviews: 21
rAvg: 3.1
pDev: 21.29%
Wants: 0
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Kichesippi Beer Co. visit their website
Ontario, Canada

Style | ABV
American Amber / Red Lager |  4.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-18-2003)
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Ratings: 25 | Reviews: 21 | Display Reviews Only:
Reviews by JustinBathurst:
Photo of JustinBathurst
2.83/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a dark, translucent cola ruby-brown. The head is substantial, and it remains with good lacing throughout.

The aroma is celery and lemon, with musty notes and a touch of sulphur.

The mouthfeel is a bit watery with medium carbonation.

The taste is where I'm slightly confused: I'm hit with an overwhelming sour, acidic lemon tang, like a cider almost, followed by roasted malt and copper penny bitterness. As a whole, it's like finally (finally?) experiencing a beer brewed with sour tart candies. Quite unusual.

While the beer is not necessarily bad, this is not a beer for me. Far too cidery and not malty enough.

JustinBathurst, Sep 09, 2007
More User Reviews:
Photo of Popsinc
3.23/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I picked up a 6pack while in Ottawa this past wknd. It pours a clear amber with a small white head and very little liveliness.

The nose is mild but slightly malty and hinted with carmel. The taste is pleasant but subtle. light roasted malts ar epresent along a dull and dry caramel finish. The mouthfeel was very smooth with light-weight body.

a far as "dark" beers go, it wasn't what i would describe as typical. an average beer at best.

Popsinc, Feb 26, 2004
Photo of beerhunter13
2/5  rDev -35.5%

beerhunter13, May 07, 2012
Photo of ByTor2112
3.48/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I just brought this back from my trip to Toronto this week. A nice thick head when tasted by itself was all hop bitterness. Aroma was sweet and nutty. Dark Amber color. Hop bitterness is immediate on the palate but fades in and out nicely with the sweet malt flavors all the way to the finish. I also detected a few hints of caramel, toffee maybe? Just another sweet taste from the malt that came through. Greta thick lacing from this beer as well. A simple offering but very drinkable.

ByTor2112, Aug 18, 2006
Photo of Sammy
2.8/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Light coffee darkish, lace in glass. Crowning head. Bit of chocolate malt aroma. Bit of taste though a lagerish one. Lower than average carbonation for an Ontario beer. On the sweet side, very little bitterness, drop of roast. Summerhill LCBO Festival.

Sammy, Jul 30, 2006
Photo of jsnoek
1/5  rDev -67.7%

jsnoek, Nov 22, 2011
Photo of Phyl21ca
3.03/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Tap: Poured a clear black beer with an almost non-visible head. Carbonation is quite low which doesn’t augur too well. Aroma is quite weak with a small touch of malt and hops coming out of my glass. Taste is better then expected when starting with subtle sweet taste and ending with a good bitter final. Overall, this is a good refreshing drink lacking some carbonation and probably the chocolate/nutty taste of regular dunkel.

Phyl21ca, Jul 08, 2004
Photo of irishkyle21
3.2/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a retro stubby bottle. The head is rather small and lacking in the retention department. Some lacing. Has a reddish bronze colour.

The smell is rather fruity (raisin) with some sweet notes in there.

Tastes of fruits, malt and light hop bitterness. A decent brew but there are better. This is my favorite offering from this brewery.

irishkyle21, Aug 16, 2007
Photo of 3Vandoo
3.35/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Very dark amber colour, a limpid and clear body, no head retention at all, a body that oily that left itself on the glass.

Smell of caramel, malt, tiny bit of chocolate.

Taste , the malt is alot present, a caramel finish that is quite smooth, some roasted flavours too, just a tiny bit, nothing much.

3Vandoo, Jan 22, 2005
Photo of the42ndtourist
4.3/5  rDev +38.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

deep amber-gold. Not exceptionally dark (in maibock area, I guess). Little head, but still lacing. Aggressively hopped for a dark lager. Lingering hop bitterness in the finish, also heads up flavour. Notes of grapefruit.... but not all that strong. Sweet malts hold their own to back up the hops.

Distinctive - the hop presence is quite rare in beers of this type. I remember it being heavier and darker when I first tried it on tap, though.
STUBBIE! (the bottle, that is)

the42ndtourist, Jun 11, 2003
Photo of mrmanning
2.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Stubbie bottle sample- Pours deep chestnut/dark brown witha two finger frothy cap. Aromas are basically all about the malts, some vanilla, toasty and mild cookie. Very subdued malt character, with dry, toasty malts, and some dark bready flavours. Pretty thin and boring as a result of the lack of flavour.

mrmanning, Aug 01, 2009
Photo of Seumas
2.25/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

The crying shame about this beer is that for a brief shining moment, it was one of my favorite lagers.

It had decent body, a pleasant light aroma of grapefruit, a nice (if quirky) flavour somewhat like candied grapefruit, and a pleasant finish.

Now, though I take a sip at each beer festival, a return to its glory days eludes me. The beer is now characterless, generally seeming oxidized.

C'mon Dominic, bring back the old Traditional Dark.

Seumas, Sep 13, 2003
Photo of funkengruven
4.08/5  rDev +31.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Stubby bottle, Very nice!

This poured a pleasant dark red with a fairly minimal head that did not last very long. Smell is very nice, caramel and sweet malt. This is reflected in the flavor as well, the caramel and malt aroma is prominent with a bitter finish. Carbonation is very mild, making this surprisingly smooth and easy to drink.

Not bad at all.

funkengruven, Sep 29, 2006
Photo of Derek
3.08/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The harvest edition with fresh, wet, Hallertau hops. Great to see the community getting together and brewers connecting with local farmers.

A: Chestnut brown, thin ring of head, no retention or lacing.

S: Nice floral & spicy aroma with underly bread & caramel.

T: Some grainy astringency that makes me wonder if it's already going downhill. Nice floral & spicing hopping, caramel, nut, balanced bitterness.

M: Light to moderate body just isn't malty enough for the style.

D: Below average for the style.

Thanks Ralphus!

Derek, Nov 13, 2009
Photo of pootz
3.23/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Retro stubbie bottle pours a light cola colored beer in the tumbler. Much lighter brown that the Dunkels I'm used to drinking.

Light nose....some sweetness, succulent fruits and a bit of toasted grain..not as malty-aromatic as a dunkel lager.

Moderate malt spine, slightly thin body, soapy mouth feel, sharp ale-like character.

You get some of the toasted malts and sweetness up front...but just for a second...then all this pale ale fruitiness from ale yeast and sharp citrus-cedar tastes from ale hopping kicks you in the palate..the finish is wet with an-ale like "bite" an more light fruit esters... then a bittering after taste. This is a dark pale ale?

This is no dunkel in any "traditional" sense... this is a dark-malted pale ale in taste and character and as such not a bad one...the brewer tells me that this beer uses the same California Common steam beer yeast as Anchor, and is fermented at warmer ale temperatures which produce the fruity esters.

So it appears what we have here is a unique hybrid beer...it's either a dunkel steam beer or a dark cream ale...so in theat respect the only "traditional" part of this beer is the stubbie bottle :-)

pootz, Jul 26, 2006
Photo of CAMRAhardliner
3.08/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours from the stubby bottle a nice mahogany color which light turns ruby. The frothy head has good retention and leaves sheets of lace behind. The aroma is sweet with sticky malts and a tiny bit of hops. Sweetness tends to dominate the taste. Some specialty malt grainy flavors and noticeable. Theres a tartness in the finish and not nearly enough hop flavor. The mouthfeel is coating and somewhat heavy.

This beer is malt first. Theres more sweetness than nuance though, its pretty uncomplicated and a little too sweet.

CAMRAhardliner, Jun 19, 2006
Photo of shamus
3.23/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I generally like the products of Heritage Brewery. I also like that they are a local Brewery located in the town my dad grew up in. My wife who really loves their porter met the owner of the Brewery when the owner brought her dog in to the vet clinic where she works. No free beer yet but we were invited to drop by the brewery. We tried that but it's only open during the work week!

The beer is deep brown and leans towards warm red tones. it has a thin head that is a tawny colour. Smells malty and sweet. it tastes great until the after taste which is very sour. Going down it briefly tasted like a coffee cake or some such desert. Still its not bad. very smooth. I'd like it better if it were not see sweet.

shamus, Nov 21, 2007
Photo of barleywort
3.48/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Serving: 341mL bottle into a tulip glass.

Pours a muted brown into a deep copper welling. A hazelnut-tinged, one-finger head that disapates rather quickly.

Drawing it up to my mouth, I detect tones of different roasted tree nuts, deeply roasted malts, baked pumpernickel bread and faintest scents of alcohol.

Very similar in composition to the nose, there is the slightest fleeting taste of hazelnut, fresh yeasty bread, and a bitter but not overpowering dark roast coffee-toned finish. The alcohol seems separate but not uncomplimentary.

The mouthfeel is dry, but the bitter notes attack the back of your mouth and leave it watering.

This is quite the session-able beer, but best at its freshest. The joy in this beer comes from it knowing well enough to not try to be more than it is; it's traditional and it's a decent (not exemplary) representation of its style.

I'd have to say that I much prefer it on tap versus bottles, but still a decent brew nonetheless.

barleywort, May 08, 2010
Photo of tbeckett
3.5/5  rDev +12.9%

tbeckett, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of slitherySOB
3.73/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

More a deep, deep red than black, but still a dark colour. Little to no head, but lace still stuck to the glass. Good smell. Alot of malt presence. Roasted, chocolate, caramel, barley, it's one malty beer. But the hops are their to balance it. Good thing too, otherwise this would be sweeet. The malts fight the hops for control, but those hops don't give up. Thick, full body. Nice and drinkable.

slitherySOB, Jun 26, 2004
Photo of MeisterBurger
2.73/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Pretty unimpressive looking, really, a dark ruddy copper with a thin ring of head and only slight traces of lacing.

The nose is mildly roasty with hints of caramel, doughy bread and earthy hops.

It's very dry and roasty with a floral bitter finish, nutty, kind of lacking a really strong malt presence.

Light bodied, thin, not too impressive.

Overall the best I can say about this beer is that it's not bad. But then I doubt any beer truly worth drinking has ever been described using litotes.

MeisterBurger, Dec 17, 2009
Photo of kelvarnsen
3.5/5  rDev +12.9%

kelvarnsen, Nov 30, 2011
Photo of TerryW
3.88/5  rDev +25.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Amber to chestnut coloured with a moderate head and some original lace. Good colour, decent enough looking beer. Nose is hops and pine, a touch horsey.

Nice balance of malt and hops. Slightly sweet up front, grapefruit citrus. Has a great lingering hop finish. I think that's what I liked best about this beer. Nice drinking beer, I quite enjoyed it. Wish I could get it locally . . . maybe I'll see if my MP can get me some.

TerryW, Feb 18, 2004
Photo of allergictomacros
3.03/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Medium copper with a weak head.

S - A little bit o malt in the nose, with some apple/pear. Some roastiness and stale tobacco is faintly present as well.

T - Mild, in all respects.Kind of a dry, crispness with a slightly tart touch. Again some roastiness, and a grainy husk.

M - Light, not overly fizzy.

D - I supposed it's all right. Nothing special, and kinda bland.

allergictomacros, Jul 20, 2007
Photo of fisherman34
2.63/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A copper coloured beer, with a sour-dough bread nose. There’s some nice herbal hop flavor in there, but some unfortunate root vegetable flavors began to creep in as well. Not nearly as malty as it should be! Not as dark or as full bodied as its name or description implies either. This one got harder and harder to drink as time went on. I prefer Heritage’s regular lager.

fisherman34, Nov 25, 2005
Heritage Traditional Dark from Kichesippi Beer Co.
75 out of 100 based on 25 ratings.