Thomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock - Thomas Creek Brewery
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3.25/5 rDev -6.6%
"Fire, water and government know nothing of mercy."
Dark pecan shell brown with generous tangerine accents and an expansive crown of pale caramel colored foam. Even though lace isn't as extensive as it could be, this is still a solid looking doppelbock.
Given the malt bill, the aroma could be both bolder and richer. Black patent and chocolate malt are good choices for those (like me) who prefer beer of this style to be darker rather than paler. A hint of metal fades over time.
Deep Water Dopplebock Lager is anything but deep. Part of the blame has to lie with one of the lowest ABVs of the several hundred versions on this site. Doppelbocks need to be maltier and meatier than this to have any hope of being good.
The shortage of malt sugars allows a little too much hop bitterness as well. Tettnanger and Hallertau seem like reasonable choices, but Cascade? Flavors include brown bread, baked nuts, tea leaves and hints of cocoa. It all comes together a bit better in the end, which almost allows the next highest taste score to be chosen.
The mouthfeel is way too light (not quite watery) and the bubbles do absolutely nothing to distinguish themselves. A short blip of fizziness and no creaminess whatsoever is not what the doppel doctor ordered.
Thomas Creek uses the right malts in Deep Water Dopplebock, they just don't use enough of them. There's some potential in this offering, but it needs to be fleshed out in a major way. Oh well, a buck and change for the single isn't going to break the bank.
11-30-2010 13:41:03 | More by BuckeyeNation
3.74/5 rDev +7.5%
Appearance: Pours a clear dark brown color with garnet highlights; the modest head leaves a few shards behind
Smell: Caramel and dark fruit with chocolate undertones
Taste: Starts out with a chocolate, caramel and dark fruit mix (almost like a porter meets a doppelbock), but flattens out in the middle; the finish is slightly bitter which was a surprise, but not unpleasant
Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with light carbonation; a bit thin for a doppelbock
Drinkability: Although it is not on point for the style - not quite a porter, not quite a doppelbock - but somewhat tasty
06-13-2005 21:24:18 | More by brentk56
3.58/5 rDev +2.9%
Always a sucker for a Dopplebock...even the bad ones. This beer falls somewhere in the average catagory. More boldness and maltiness than usually found in American renditions. They really piled on the chocolate malts to bring out a robust flavor along with mild over-ripened fruits. After the initial sip subsides, faint flavors of baking soda (soapy) and vegetables (corn) begins to come through. The beer falls apart a bit in the finish giving off a cola-like sweetness and flavor. I still liked it pretty well though.
10-18-2006 15:35:44 | More by BEERchitect
3.8/5 rDev +9.2%
A - Poured a nice dark brown with some ruby tint to it. A nice tan head formed at the top and left behind a decent amount of lace.
S - Very pleasing smell with a noticeable smoked or burn smell to it. Punctuated by a nice caramel sweetness and a roasted malt aroma. Very nicely done.
M & T - Had a great smooth feel to it, due in oart to great carbonation which gave it a light feel and an awesome texture. Great smoked and burnt flavors were the dominant players here, with hints at a caramel or sugary sweetness and a nice dry hopped finish.
D - Overall this was very good and my favorite from Thomas Creek thus far. Great consistency and highly recommended, nice try from the boys in Greenville.
04-02-2007 22:46:23 | More by mikesgroove
3.5/5 rDev +0.6%
12 ounce bottle - $1.69 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.
Appearance: Pours a clear, dark brown body with some slight reddish hues and a lean, off-white head.
Smell: Roasty, cocoa-minded nose with lesser notes of dark pumpernickel and dried fruits (with a very background, very thin vein of curious tartness).
Taste: Dark maltiness with tastes of toasted dark bread, a dash of cocoa, a touch of dry caramel, and even a hint of moderately roasted grain. Slightly sweet, though considerably less than most doppelbocks. Fruit flavors of raisins and plums. A small twinge of suspect acidity makes me think this could possibly be in the very early stages of infection, but, as it's not obtrusive and barley noticeable, let's just pretend it never happened. Spicy, slightly earthy hops with a mild, restrained bitterness. Splash of cola in the latter half. Finishes malty and dry.
Mouthfeel: A hair above medium-bodied. Medium carbonation.
Drinkability: It's not your typical doppelbock, with its somewhat unconventional use of chocolate and roasted malts, though I'm kind of digging that. I still fear an onset of infection would've been the future for this particular bottle, and, regrettably, I see no "born on" dating, so maybe stick to draft with this one.
05-27-2009 03:13:40 | More by ChainGangGuy
3.25/5 rDev -6.6%
I would say this was one of the lighter beers of the style I have had.Poured a chesnut brown color with a thinner but pretty well sustained off white head,very light aromas,I picked up some caramel and a passing iron note.Flavors seemed to be a bit watered down to me,light caramel and dark fruit mainly with a little toasty malt,but again the flavors dont show through that great due to thin feel.Eh, an average to below average take on the style in my opinion.
11-28-2009 13:34:18 | More by oberon
3.45/5 rDev -0.9%
Got this as an extra from chefmikeanderson, this my favorite style & a state I've yet to review
( I think ), Cheers Mike!
Pours an effervescent mahogany tinged chestnut with 2 fingers of tan head. Impressive head retention & lacing
S: Breadyness, a touch of herbal hops
T: Brown bread, a touch of herbal hops & licorice, plus dryness up front. Toasted & roasted malt surface as this warms along with dryness, more brown bread & just a touch of boozey plum. Finished dry with a touch of coffee, full point deduction for straying off style
MF: Medium bodied, soft carbonation, a bit too dry, warming
Drinks easy enough, the dryness would probably make me move on before the ABV would. A pretty drinkable doople that has a few stylistic flaws, that makesthink this could be a porter, would've scored better...
08-15-2009 01:36:09 | More by russpowell
3.38/5 rDev -2.9%
Thanks to blutt59 for sharing this bottle.
The beer pours a deep red color with a tan head. The aroma is fairly sweet and has a lot of toffee and dark fruit notes. The flavor is similar, with some toffee and lightly roasted malt standing out the most. There is also a little bit of coffee. The beer is very dry overall. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.
05-15-2012 02:40:48 | More by Mora2000
3.48/5 rDev 0%
Big dark mahogany ale.
Very dark in the glass. Sharp flavors dominate. Seems to be a burnt malt in the bill that cuts the slight sweetness. Quite a raspy hop flavor emerges. Not really rich, but more malty than a Schwartzbier so I guess it's on style. I prefer a more rounded taste than this. Seems to be woody, raw, grainy.
Also had this on tap at the Liberty in Greenville. I think I like the bottled version better. I have not been impressed with any of the Thomas Creek brews I've tried.
03-23-2011 03:54:47 | More by mactrail
2.35/5 rDev -32.5%
Pours a deep dark brown color that's almost completely opaque with faint mahogany edges and a one finger off-white head that slowly fades into a lasting ring. Sporadic spots of lace left behind.
Smokey dark malt aroma with hints of burnt toast, dark chocolate, ash and coffee bean. Some peppery spice but kind of one dimensional and not characteristic of the style.
Medium bodied with a balance of sweet and smokey malts along with some zesty spice and bitter hops. Slightly acrid and dry with lots of deep roasted malt. Hints of burnt coffee bean, toast and dark chocolate along with some caramel, toffee and peppery spice. The ABV is well balanced but it's a bit harsh and one dimensional. Could use some balance with more sweetness. Again, doesn't really taste like a typical dopplebock.
11-01-2011 04:47:41 | More by corby112
3.8/5 rDev +9.2%
12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 2/3/2012. Pours fairly clear dark reddish brown color with a 2 finger dense khaki head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass; with moderate streaming carbonation. Aromas of caramel, raisin, prune, toast, toffee, chocolate, molasses, floral, dark bread, light roast, light nuttiness, and yeast earthiness. Nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark malt notes with yeast fruitiness; with good strength. Taste of caramel, toast, dark bread, raisin, prune, toffee, molasses, chocolate, roast, light nuttiness, and yeast earthiness. Lingering notes of caramel, toast, toffee, chocolate, molasses, dark bread, raisin, prune, roast, light nuttiness, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of dark and roasted malt flavors with a light-moderate fruitiness; with nice robustness and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a creamy and fairly slick mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is very well hidden with no warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a very good doppelbock! Nice balance, robustness, and complexity of dark malt flavors; and very smooth to sip on. A very enjoyable offering.
07-03-2013 04:05:06 | More by superspak
4.43/5 rDev +27.3%
Pours a deep brown with a reddish hue in the light. There's thick quarter inch of off-white, brownish head that has great retention. The nose has notes of roasted malts, chocolate, alcohol phenols, and butterscotch. Up front the butterscotch gets your attention which quickly turns to a chocolaty, coffee finish. There are notes of dark fruit and even some toffee and caramel that are hidden in each sip. The mouthfeel is full bodied, rich, smooth, and very well carbonated.
As this beer warms the flavors become something more akin to a traditional doppelbock. At first it was more like a porter meets lager, but after a little while it's a very delicious doppelbock. This is a great beer and another home run for Thomas Creek.
12-21-2011 01:21:58 | More by tdm168
3.48/5 rDev 0%
12 oz bottle served in a pint glass. No intelligible date on bottle, despite coded stamp. No sediment in the bottle.
Pours a dark reddish-brown; clear but nearly opague. Has a short-lived and rather small tan head.
Aroma: rather faint but attractive smell of roasted malts; faintly earthy and spicy
Taste: slightly spicy and hoppy flavor, but dominated by medium and darker roasted malts. Slightly nutty. Excellent hop/malt balance for the style, albeit a bit hoppier than a traditional.
M: very good carbonation level; too acidic?; slightly dry in the finish.
O: pretty good example of an American dopplebock, but disappointing given the outstanding brewery that produced this.
01-26-2012 00:36:11 | More by chinchill
3.63/5 rDev +4.3%
Very dark, cola-colored brown (think Dr. Pepper), with an inch of slowly settling, cream-colored head. Lacing is sticky and abundant. Big time bready maltiness and significant chocolate in the nose. Noticeable sweetness. Brown sugar, toffee, hints of figs and other fruits, bubblegum.
Very tasty! Lots of bready malt, dark chocolate, light roast, faint booziness, and just a touch of syrupy sweetness. Medium-full bodied with slightly sharp carbonation but also very smooth and creamy in the mouth. Lingering stickiness and aftertaste leaves plenty of malty, sweet, complex breadiness and a late emerging floral hop bitterness.
Perhaps a little hoppier and less full bodied than you'd want, but I enjoyed this one nonetheless. Not up there with the top examples of the style but deserving, in my opinion, of a higher rating than the one the BA community has bestowed upon it.
02-28-2012 05:52:49 | More by tobelerone
3.08/5 rDev -11.5%
A: Poured from a bottle to a mug. Had a dark brown color and a somewhat thin consistency. There was a thin head that dissipated quickly and OK lacing.
S: Not a particulary overpowering smell. Some malt and chocolate.
T: Tasted of roasted malt, chocolate and a little coffee. Not terrible, just not that complex.
M: A decent amount of carbonation and a dry finish. Light-bodied.
D: This is an unexceptional beer. It's not horrible, it's not great either.
01-13-2009 02:37:00 | More by avalon07
3.25/5 rDev -6.6%
A - So far so good a deep shade of ruby red brown with a nice 1/4 inch of mocha head.
S - Not much caramel or biscuit malt. In a way stout like with chocolate and brown malts.
T - Really all over the place chocolate, roast, coffee, brown malts, molasses, and a slight sweet caramel finish.
M - Fairly smooth its big ABV is masked well. Easily the best part of the beer.
Overall it kind of tasted like the porter I had from them but it should have been a bock. Lower score since it's no on par with the style.
11-04-2013 18:29:24 | More by DrDemento456
2.5/5 rDev -28.2%
First whiff when I opened the bottle was fruity and cider-like, while the second was smokier and maltier but still with a strong hard cider overtone. Pours an opaque chocolaty brown with a thick, frothy, not too persistent pale tan head. Flavor is rather wan, though - more like cider than beer, just a hint of malt and a touch of hops and smoke, and a little watery. Texture is thin and watery, like flat cola. I have had better, but this is OK.
12-20-2008 04:02:18 | More by Cyberkedi
Thomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock from Thomas Creek Brewery
79 out of 100 based on 191 ratings.