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Thomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock - Thomas Creek Brewery

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211 Ratings
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Ratings: 211
Reviews: 100
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 15.43%
Wants: 4
Gots: 11 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Thomas Creek Brewery visit their website
South Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: aracauna on 10-26-2002

30 IBU
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Photo of masstransplant
3.03/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a very dark copper. Thin head that's gone almost immediately. Smells of toasted malt and light chocolate. A bit too highly carbonated...this gets in the way of getting a good taste right up front. The taste is of heavily roasted malt but the finish is watery. Nothing special.

Photo of whitekiboko
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of dowen44
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of tdm168
4.42/5  rDev +26.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep brown with a reddish hue in the light. There's thick quarter inch of off-white, brownish head that has great retention. The nose has notes of roasted malts, chocolate, alcohol phenols, and butterscotch. Up front the butterscotch gets your attention which quickly turns to a chocolaty, coffee finish. There are notes of dark fruit and even some toffee and caramel that are hidden in each sip. The mouthfeel is full bodied, rich, smooth, and very well carbonated.

As this beer warms the flavors become something more akin to a traditional doppelbock. At first it was more like a porter meets lager, but after a little while it's a very delicious doppelbock. This is a great beer and another home run for Thomas Creek.

Photo of Ryan011235
2.3/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a Samuel Smith pint glass in the wee hours of 12/18/11

Courtesy of PDXHops

Loose cap alert - doesn't seem to be a good seal on this one.

Mid-depth cola brown; nice and not too dark. One finger sandy brown head fades after a few minutes to a soapy layer that congregates in the center and along the inside of the glass. No lace to speak of.

Deep aromas of baked dark bread, grains, caramel, toffee and a hint of dusty yeast. Some strange earthy aromatic going on, too (this mostly occurs after swirling the glass; otherwise the aroma is mostly sweeter malt tones). Come to think of it, the strangeness might be oxidation.

My girlfriend took a sip before me; she said it tastes like hippopotamus piss and hint of coffee, aka hippopotamus piss on steroids. Let's see what's going on here. Hmm... coffee and paper. Dear oxidation: thank you. There are some toasted grain and bread notes, but they aren't at the fore like they should be.

The feel is medium-ish, but I get the impression it's thinner than it should be. Carbonation is moderate; maybe a touch on the low side. Hey, at least the carbonation is fine. Finishes dry and kind of gritty.

I had a sample of this on tap at Brewgrass and this bottle isn't what this beer is supposed to be. Still, if you have dicey capping procedures, I reckon I'll let the review stand for the time being. I liked the sample I had, so I intend to give this one another shake.

Photo of eddiechilton
4/5  rDev +14.3%

Photo of rudolphjacksonm
3.42/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Re-reviewing this beer again tonight (12/07) because I think it deserves another try.

A - Pours a rich, dark brown (near black) with a teensy one-finger head that dissolves really quickly into a residual film. Not much lacing at all. 3.0

S - Smell of figs, roasted malts, caramel, molasses and firewood. The scent gets stronger as the beer warms and you continue drinking it. 3.5

T - This is probably the highlight of this beer. The taste is great. Incredibly smooth and chocolatey, with a hint of a bourbon, chocolate, roasted malt, and figs. Slight bitter hop flavor at the end but it's just the right amount to counter the initial malty sweetness. 3.5

M - Really smooth with little carbonation. Really enjoyable and it goes down very smooth. Each sip leaves you craving another one. 3.0

O - A pretty solid beer from Thomas Creek. I wouldn't pay a whole lot for it but that being said, I would definitely make this a session beer. I think it's tasty, smooth, and incredibly drinkable. 3.5

Photo of mdillon86
3/5  rDev -14.3%

Photo of corby112
2.37/5  rDev -32.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a deep dark brown color that's almost completely opaque with faint mahogany edges and a one finger off-white head that slowly fades into a lasting ring. Sporadic spots of lace left behind.

Smokey dark malt aroma with hints of burnt toast, dark chocolate, ash and coffee bean. Some peppery spice but kind of one dimensional and not characteristic of the style.

Medium bodied with a balance of sweet and smokey malts along with some zesty spice and bitter hops. Slightly acrid and dry with lots of deep roasted malt. Hints of burnt coffee bean, toast and dark chocolate along with some caramel, toffee and peppery spice. The ABV is well balanced but it's a bit harsh and one dimensional. Could use some balance with more sweetness. Again, doesn't really taste like a typical dopplebock.

Photo of Whadawookie
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Hello, this is my first review. I've drank craft beers for a few years now, but now that I've started homebrewing, I figured I should probably start working on refining my beer-senses.

Never saw this doppelbock before today but I have liked other beers from this brewery so I thought I would give it a try.

I poured into a pilsner glass and obtained a nice 1 1/2 in thick and creamy head that crested over the top of the glass. The color is pretty nice looking, a very dark amber. As I drank on the foam settled down to just a light coating over the beer, but it features some decent lacing every drink.

You could pleasantly smell the yeast for a minute or two upon opening but that quickly dissipated (I have a bad sense of smell due to allergies). It's still lingers a bit though.

This is a sweet brew, but it has been balanced well enough that you get other flavors from the malts. It kinda tastes sassy like hard alcohol, but it's not overwhelming, just a little strange since it's not terribly high abv... is it too much hops? I can't really tell, but it's not the most flattering flavor with this style.

Mouthfeel was ok, but it still kinda burned a little more than expected for such low abv. It felt better at the back of my tongue...which led to immediate consumption.

It's not the best doppelbock I've had, but it is still worthy to drink. Maybe a little overpriced where I bought it at $9.99 a sixer.

I was more into this brewery's double ipa "up the creek".

Photo of BeerBeatnik
3.88/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured this into a pint glass from the bottle. Deep brown velvety pour with chocolate and vanilla aromas milling off the head with a slight touch of molasses and caramel sweetness. Smoothed out body enhances a sugary sweetness to the beer which is offset somewhat by a subtle dusty woody touch. Overall this brew has a nice dash of drinkability and deep complexity.

Photo of JamnesCameron
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured into my New Holland Pint glass. Pours a deep brown with ruby highlights and a light tan head of about two fingers. Head drops slowly, leaving a mere wisp of foam and some good lacing.

Aromas of fruity esters, deep rich toffee malt, hints of juicy fruit, no hop aroma.

Flavors of sweet malt, some metallic astringency, no hop flavor.

Mouthfeel is light, almost watery, copper metallic astringency, decent level of carbonation.

A so-so example, light on the alcohol, light on the body, no really true to style in many ways. Good malt forward beer, just not up to doppelbock strength.

Photo of nhindian
2.95/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle poured into a Southern Tier goblet. Bottle generously provided as an extra by mikesgroove, thanks Mike!

A - Pours nearly the darkest shade of brown you can get before it starts creeping up on black. About 2-fingers worth of light tan head with decent retention. Lacing covers the majority of the glass with thin, stringy foam.

S - All malts in the nose. Slight roast gives a nice coffee smell, as well as a bit of chocolate. The interesting notes are more subdued, like a bit of smoke and the dark fruits.

T - The taste is a noticeable downgrade from the nose. While the aroma promises a balanced, somewhat complex beer, the taste reduces that premonition to a shred of its former glory. It starts promisingly enough, with a nice burst of dark fruits in plums and figs, followed with a smoky roast. This is short-lived, however, and it's all downhill from there. The mid-palate and finish is desperately bare of much substance; rather it succumbs to residual sweetness from the malts and some watery carbonation feeling.

M - Mouthfeel is moderately light-bodied with high carbonation. It's curse is it's thin, watery texture it takes on shortly after the flavors fade, which is much too soon. This leads to a very disappointing lasting impression.

D/O - Drinkability is pretty low. I hate to say this, because the first moments of this beer are highly enjoyable, but the sudden drop off really hurts it. If it could sustain the momentum that the initial taste delivers, this would be a nice doppelbock for sure, but the way I view it now is as something that could have been.

Photo of vtfan77
4.1/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Deep reddish brown with a good half inch or so of head.

S- Hugely malty with tons of caramel and yeasty bread aromas. There's even a little cocoa in there too.

T- A little sour malt upfront segues into a nice bready character. Not nearly as sweet as the smell would indicate. There's a nice roasty character on the finish that's almost stout-like. Mild bitterness on the finish.

M- On the full side of medium, slightly syrupy but with ample carbonation.

This is actually a pretty darn good doppelbock. The flavor is not traditional, but it's very nice and fairly complex. Definitely a good beer. Recommended.

Photo of PhillyStyle
2.48/5  rDev -29.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Smoke on the Water, Greenville, SC. May 2011:

The beer appeared a darker color, perhaps it was brown, and a thin white head sat on tap that was not all that well retained. The aroma was weak, light roasted malts, not much else. The taste was not that impressive, again some roasted malts and a touch of wood. The beer had a light feel to it; high on the carbonation...I didn't even finish the whole pint. Overall, a pretty weak beer all the way around and one that I will not go out of my way to have again.

Photo of mactrail
3.46/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Big dark mahogany ale.

Very dark in the glass. Sharp flavors dominate. Seems to be a burnt malt in the bill that cuts the slight sweetness. Quite a raspy hop flavor emerges. Not really rich, but more malty than a Schwartzbier so I guess it's on style. I prefer a more rounded taste than this. Seems to be woody, raw, grainy.

Also had this on tap at the Liberty in Greenville. I think I like the bottled version better. I have not been impressed with any of the Thomas Creek brews I've tried.

Photo of GSmithBeer
3.11/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

had this at beertopia
A: nice appearance. dark color. okay head & retention.
S: nothing exceptional after having a bunch of ipas.
T: not all that impressed. a little sweet for my taste.
M: good carbonation. nice mouthfeel.
O: it seemed like a lonely station at beertopia so i went over there to taste something. after tasting it, and i don't mean this as a put down, but i can see why they were a little lonely. nothing great. tasted okay. probably wouldn't order though in a bar.

Photo of ckeegan04
3.77/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

A - Near pitch black with just the faintest hints of deep ruby around the edges. Head is a moderate two fingers with solid sheets of foam left on the glass.

S - Bitter roasted malt aroma with hints of charcoal and chocolate. Just a hint of fruitiness comes through as the beer begins to warm.

T - Surprisingly sweet and fruity at first sip. A dry roasted malt taste comes through quickly on the back of the tongue and gives you a bit of the big malt you would expect, but all in all it is a bit weak. A bit too much hop presence for the style in my opinion. As the beer warms a somewhat astringent bitterness takes hold.

M/D - Light to medium bodied, certianly not what one would expect. Easy drinking with the alcohol being very well masked.

All in all, not the best doppelbock I have ever had but certainly not a bad beer. Could use a little more roasted malt and a little less of the little green cones in my opinion.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.28/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

"Fire, water and government know nothing of mercy."

--anonymous

Dark pecan shell brown with generous tangerine accents and an expansive crown of pale caramel colored foam. Even though lace isn't as extensive as it could be, this is still a solid looking doppelbock.

Given the malt bill, the aroma could be both bolder and richer. Black patent and chocolate malt are good choices for those (like me) who prefer beer of this style to be darker rather than paler. A hint of metal fades over time.

Deep Water Dopplebock Lager is anything but deep. Part of the blame has to lie with one of the lowest ABVs of the several hundred versions on this site. Doppelbocks need to be maltier and meatier than this to have any hope of being good.

The shortage of malt sugars allows a little too much hop bitterness as well. Tettnanger and Hallertau seem like reasonable choices, but Cascade? Flavors include brown bread, baked nuts, tea leaves and hints of cocoa. It all comes together a bit better in the end, which almost allows the next highest taste score to be chosen.

The mouthfeel is way too light (not quite watery) and the bubbles do absolutely nothing to distinguish themselves. A short blip of fizziness and no creaminess whatsoever is not what the doppel doctor ordered.

Thomas Creek uses the right malts in Deep Water Dopplebock, they just don't use enough of them. There's some potential in this offering, but it needs to be fleshed out in a major way. Oh well, a buck and change for the single isn't going to break the bank.

Photo of Rmason104
3.28/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into standard Shaker pint glass

A - dark brown, almost black. Very little carbonation, no head or lacing.

S - roasted, almost coffee aroma, none of the sweetness I have detected in other dopplebocks

T - not much depth to this one. Taste similar to smell. No sweetness at all, heavy on the roasted, toasty tones.

M - thin mouthfeel, disappointing for this style

D - could drink more than one although the roasted, dark toast flavor would be too much after a while.

This dopplebock was very different than others I had become accustomed to. None of the sweetness or depth of flavor that endears me to this style. Drank more like a thin stout or porter, two styles I am not much of a fan of.

Photo of FreshHawk
3.45/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Deep brown with ruby hues on the edges. Fairly small, tight, foamy, light tan head. Decent retention with a thin patchy lace left.

S - Fairly typical doppelbock aroma, with a touch more sweetness. Dark, sweet bread and dark fruit (particularly raisin) with just a tiny hint of rum. Cocoa is present but not very strong.

T - Similar to the nose with sweet dark fruit (raisin and date in particular) being pretty strong. They have a hint of rum soaked flavor but that just has a quick flash mid-sip. Dark, sweet bread provides a nice base undertone. Only a touch of cocoa at the end. Some anise also is present. Has a lingering sweet, syrupy taste.

M - Between light and medium body with average carbonation. A little too thin and watery, especially for the style. Has a slight sticky finish.

D - Flavors are nice, but this is a little too sweet for me to want to drink it regularly (especially in one night). Mouthfeel/body doesn't help either.

Notes: A little on the sweet side for a doppelbock as well as a little thin. That said, it provides those nice dark, sweet fruity and bready flavors you expect. Not a bad doppelbock, but there are better ones out there.

Photo of biggred1
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Clear, dark brown with a small tan head. A lot of chocolate in the aroma with some dark breadiness and dark fruit. Chocolate, cocoa powder and a coffee-like bitterness with a touch of raisin sweetness in the finish. Medium bodied with slightly harsh carbonation. While the potential is there, this one misses the mark a little but I still enjoyed it.

Photo of ksimons
2.88/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a snifer, is midnight black with some head that quickly disappears. Smells malty and slightly bitter

Taste is thin but there are flavors of coffee and malts with a very dry finish. Very easy to drink, but much too thin for this style of beer.

Photo of SLeffler27
3.13/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This is a clear rich dark mahogany beer with ruby highlights, accentuated by the pilsner glass. A nice fine mocha muse resides above, settling on the glass in a slight lace, while the beer puts up a thin film with each swirl.

Sweet malt, with a lightly roasted character, reveals some brown sugar and molasses. There is cookie dough in the background, and bitter chocolate comes out with warmth and a hint of aspirin.

Upon entry, baker's chocolate is most prominent, with some molasses behind it. This is more bitter than sweet, with a salty touch and is off balance. These flavors abate quickly, leaving a prominent metallic aftertaste.

Deep Water is a dry, medium bodied beer, that is oddly chalky in texture, with astringency and metallic notes. The alcohol is much stronger than one would anticipate from 6.25%.

This is a bit of a mess, and for me requires an accompaniment of a meaty stew, rather than on its own or with cheese. For me Dopplebocks are more a treat, and this example, while worth trying, is well outside the style range.

Photo of PDXHops
3.97/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap in a shaker pint.

Pours a cola brown with some reddish highlights. Smallish off-white head, but it does leave some decent drippy lacing.

What a pleasant surprise this is. Robustly malty, starting off sweet, developing substantial roastiness and then finishing rather crisp. Aromas and flavors are full of dark fruits, light coffee, a dusting of cocoa, excellent compliments to the chewy, hearty malt.

Medium-thick body with plentiful carbonation and a bit of a creamy element to the finish.

Overall impression: Very enjoyable dopplebock that went nicely with a medium-rare burger.

Thomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock from Thomas Creek Brewery
80 out of 100 based on 211 ratings.