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Thomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock - Thomas Creek Brewery

Thomas Creek Deep Water DopplebockThomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock

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179 Ratings
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Ratings: 179
Reviews: 99
rAvg: 3.47
pDev: 16.43%


Brewed by:
Thomas Creek Brewery visit their website
South Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
30 IBU

(Beer added by: aracauna on 10-26-2002)
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JamnesCameron

Illinois

3.2/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured into my New Holland Pint glass. Pours a deep brown with ruby highlights and a light tan head of about two fingers. Head drops slowly, leaving a mere wisp of foam and some good lacing.

Aromas of fruity esters, deep rich toffee malt, hints of juicy fruit, no hop aroma.

Flavors of sweet malt, some metallic astringency, no hop flavor.

Mouthfeel is light, almost watery, copper metallic astringency, decent level of carbonation.

A so-so example, light on the alcohol, light on the body, no really true to style in many ways. Good malt forward beer, just not up to doppelbock strength.

Serving type: bottle

09-16-2011 02:36:23 | More by JamnesCameron
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nhindian

Pennsylvania

2.88/5  rDev -17%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle poured into a Southern Tier goblet. Bottle generously provided as an extra by mikesgroove, thanks Mike!

A - Pours nearly the darkest shade of brown you can get before it starts creeping up on black. About 2-fingers worth of light tan head with decent retention. Lacing covers the majority of the glass with thin, stringy foam.

S - All malts in the nose. Slight roast gives a nice coffee smell, as well as a bit of chocolate. The interesting notes are more subdued, like a bit of smoke and the dark fruits.

T - The taste is a noticeable downgrade from the nose. While the aroma promises a balanced, somewhat complex beer, the taste reduces that premonition to a shred of its former glory. It starts promisingly enough, with a nice burst of dark fruits in plums and figs, followed with a smoky roast. This is short-lived, however, and it's all downhill from there. The mid-palate and finish is desperately bare of much substance; rather it succumbs to residual sweetness from the malts and some watery carbonation feeling.

M - Mouthfeel is moderately light-bodied with high carbonation. It's curse is it's thin, watery texture it takes on shortly after the flavors fade, which is much too soon. This leads to a very disappointing lasting impression.

D/O - Drinkability is pretty low. I hate to say this, because the first moments of this beer are highly enjoyable, but the sudden drop off really hurts it. If it could sustain the momentum that the initial taste delivers, this would be a nice doppelbock for sure, but the way I view it now is as something that could have been.

Serving type: bottle

08-18-2011 06:58:59 | More by nhindian
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vtfan77

Virginia

4.1/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Deep reddish brown with a good half inch or so of head.

S- Hugely malty with tons of caramel and yeasty bread aromas. There's even a little cocoa in there too.

T- A little sour malt upfront segues into a nice bready character. Not nearly as sweet as the smell would indicate. There's a nice roasty character on the finish that's almost stout-like. Mild bitterness on the finish.

M- On the full side of medium, slightly syrupy but with ample carbonation.

This is actually a pretty darn good doppelbock. The flavor is not traditional, but it's very nice and fairly complex. Definitely a good beer. Recommended.

Serving type: bottle

07-20-2011 01:10:38 | More by vtfan77
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PhillyStyle

Georgia

2.48/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Smoke on the Water, Greenville, SC. May 2011:

The beer appeared a darker color, perhaps it was brown, and a thin white head sat on tap that was not all that well retained. The aroma was weak, light roasted malts, not much else. The taste was not that impressive, again some roasted malts and a touch of wood. The beer had a light feel to it; high on the carbonation...I didn't even finish the whole pint. Overall, a pretty weak beer all the way around and one that I will not go out of my way to have again.

Serving type: on-tap

06-22-2011 02:52:37 | More by PhillyStyle
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mactrail

California

3.48/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Big dark mahogany ale.

Very dark in the glass. Sharp flavors dominate. Seems to be a burnt malt in the bill that cuts the slight sweetness. Quite a raspy hop flavor emerges. Not really rich, but more malty than a Schwartzbier so I guess it's on style. I prefer a more rounded taste than this. Seems to be woody, raw, grainy.

Also had this on tap at the Liberty in Greenville. I think I like the bottled version better. I have not been impressed with any of the Thomas Creek brews I've tried.

Serving type: bottle

03-23-2011 03:54:47 | More by mactrail
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GSmithBeer

North Carolina

3.1/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

had this at beertopia
A: nice appearance. dark color. okay head & retention.
S: nothing exceptional after having a bunch of ipas.
T: not all that impressed. a little sweet for my taste.
M: good carbonation. nice mouthfeel.
O: it seemed like a lonely station at beertopia so i went over there to taste something. after tasting it, and i don't mean this as a put down, but i can see why they were a little lonely. nothing great. tasted okay. probably wouldn't order though in a bar.

Serving type: on-tap

03-22-2011 22:38:28 | More by GSmithBeer
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ckeegan04

Texas

3.73/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

A - Near pitch black with just the faintest hints of deep ruby around the edges. Head is a moderate two fingers with solid sheets of foam left on the glass.

S - Bitter roasted malt aroma with hints of charcoal and chocolate. Just a hint of fruitiness comes through as the beer begins to warm.

T - Surprisingly sweet and fruity at first sip. A dry roasted malt taste comes through quickly on the back of the tongue and gives you a bit of the big malt you would expect, but all in all it is a bit weak. A bit too much hop presence for the style in my opinion. As the beer warms a somewhat astringent bitterness takes hold.

M/D - Light to medium bodied, certianly not what one would expect. Easy drinking with the alcohol being very well masked.

All in all, not the best doppelbock I have ever had but certainly not a bad beer. Could use a little more roasted malt and a little less of the little green cones in my opinion.

Serving type: bottle

12-20-2010 20:45:24 | More by ckeegan04
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BuckeyeNation

Iowa

3.25/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

"Fire, water and government know nothing of mercy."

--anonymous

Dark pecan shell brown with generous tangerine accents and an expansive crown of pale caramel colored foam. Even though lace isn't as extensive as it could be, this is still a solid looking doppelbock.

Given the malt bill, the aroma could be both bolder and richer. Black patent and chocolate malt are good choices for those (like me) who prefer beer of this style to be darker rather than paler. A hint of metal fades over time.

Deep Water Dopplebock Lager is anything but deep. Part of the blame has to lie with one of the lowest ABVs of the several hundred versions on this site. Doppelbocks need to be maltier and meatier than this to have any hope of being good.

The shortage of malt sugars allows a little too much hop bitterness as well. Tettnanger and Hallertau seem like reasonable choices, but Cascade? Flavors include brown bread, baked nuts, tea leaves and hints of cocoa. It all comes together a bit better in the end, which almost allows the next highest taste score to be chosen.

The mouthfeel is way too light (not quite watery) and the bubbles do absolutely nothing to distinguish themselves. A short blip of fizziness and no creaminess whatsoever is not what the doppel doctor ordered.

Thomas Creek uses the right malts in Deep Water Dopplebock, they just don't use enough of them. There's some potential in this offering, but it needs to be fleshed out in a major way. Oh well, a buck and change for the single isn't going to break the bank.

Serving type: bottle

11-30-2010 13:41:03 | More by BuckeyeNation
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Rmason104

Nebraska

3.25/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into standard Shaker pint glass

A - dark brown, almost black. Very little carbonation, no head or lacing.

S - roasted, almost coffee aroma, none of the sweetness I have detected in other dopplebocks

T - not much depth to this one. Taste similar to smell. No sweetness at all, heavy on the roasted, toasty tones.

M - thin mouthfeel, disappointing for this style

D - could drink more than one although the roasted, dark toast flavor would be too much after a while.

This dopplebock was very different than others I had become accustomed to. None of the sweetness or depth of flavor that endears me to this style. Drank more like a thin stout or porter, two styles I am not much of a fan of.

Serving type: bottle

11-26-2010 18:40:14 | More by Rmason104
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FreshHawk

Illinois

3.45/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Deep brown with ruby hues on the edges. Fairly small, tight, foamy, light tan head. Decent retention with a thin patchy lace left.

S - Fairly typical doppelbock aroma, with a touch more sweetness. Dark, sweet bread and dark fruit (particularly raisin) with just a tiny hint of rum. Cocoa is present but not very strong.

T - Similar to the nose with sweet dark fruit (raisin and date in particular) being pretty strong. They have a hint of rum soaked flavor but that just has a quick flash mid-sip. Dark, sweet bread provides a nice base undertone. Only a touch of cocoa at the end. Some anise also is present. Has a lingering sweet, syrupy taste.

M - Between light and medium body with average carbonation. A little too thin and watery, especially for the style. Has a slight sticky finish.

D - Flavors are nice, but this is a little too sweet for me to want to drink it regularly (especially in one night). Mouthfeel/body doesn't help either.

Notes: A little on the sweet side for a doppelbock as well as a little thin. That said, it provides those nice dark, sweet fruity and bready flavors you expect. Not a bad doppelbock, but there are better ones out there.

Serving type: bottle

11-03-2010 17:15:31 | More by FreshHawk
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biggred1

Indiana

3.5/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Clear, dark brown with a small tan head. A lot of chocolate in the aroma with some dark breadiness and dark fruit. Chocolate, cocoa powder and a coffee-like bitterness with a touch of raisin sweetness in the finish. Medium bodied with slightly harsh carbonation. While the potential is there, this one misses the mark a little but I still enjoyed it.

Serving type: bottle

10-02-2010 22:35:51 | More by biggred1
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ksimons

New York

2.88/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a snifer, is midnight black with some head that quickly disappears. Smells malty and slightly bitter

Taste is thin but there are flavors of coffee and malts with a very dry finish. Very easy to drink, but much too thin for this style of beer.

Serving type: bottle

03-12-2010 23:32:55 | More by ksimons
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SLeffler27

New York

3.1/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This is a clear rich dark mahogany beer with ruby highlights, accentuated by the pilsner glass. A nice fine mocha muse resides above, settling on the glass in a slight lace, while the beer puts up a thin film with each swirl.

Sweet malt, with a lightly roasted character, reveals some brown sugar and molasses. There is cookie dough in the background, and bitter chocolate comes out with warmth and a hint of aspirin.

Upon entry, baker's chocolate is most prominent, with some molasses behind it. This is more bitter than sweet, with a salty touch and is off balance. These flavors abate quickly, leaving a prominent metallic aftertaste.

Deep Water is a dry, medium bodied beer, that is oddly chalky in texture, with astringency and metallic notes. The alcohol is much stronger than one would anticipate from 6.25%.

This is a bit of a mess, and for me requires an accompaniment of a meaty stew, rather than on its own or with cheese. For me Dopplebocks are more a treat, and this example, while worth trying, is well outside the style range.

Serving type: bottle

03-02-2010 16:03:28 | More by SLeffler27
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PDXHops

South Carolina

3.98/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap in a shaker pint.

Pours a cola brown with some reddish highlights. Smallish off-white head, but it does leave some decent drippy lacing.

What a pleasant surprise this is. Robustly malty, starting off sweet, developing substantial roastiness and then finishing rather crisp. Aromas and flavors are full of dark fruits, light coffee, a dusting of cocoa, excellent compliments to the chewy, hearty malt.

Medium-thick body with plentiful carbonation and a bit of a creamy element to the finish.

Overall impression: Very enjoyable dopplebock that went nicely with a medium-rare burger.

Serving type: on-tap

01-18-2010 00:26:09 | More by PDXHops
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feelmefoam

South Carolina

3.75/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12-oz bottle into a pint glass.

Deep Water Doppelbock pours a deep dark brown with red highlights and a copious, pockmarked, two inch tan head that leaves a lot of lacing around the glass and spreads its aroma around the room. A nice looking beer, for sure.

Chocolate, fruits, and roasty malts dominate the nose of this beer. Not extremely fragrant, but it smells good.

Deep Water's taste is just what I want on a cold winter's night. A hefty amount of roasted caramel malts, mixed with a bit of cocoa and grainy breadiness. A sweet fruitiness shows up for a second, then the flavor leaves with a nice earthy, slightly spicy hop flavor as it finishes up.

A pretty thick beer, but its not syrupy. Its smooth and easy to drink despite some pretty big flavors. Moderate amounts of carbonation work well with the beer, not detracting from the smoothness of it.

Overall, this is my favorite Thomas Creek offering that I've had so far. A tasty, robust beer that looks good and goes well with a bit of cold weather and a hearty meal. Good showing, TCB.

Serving type: bottle

01-10-2010 00:12:02 | More by feelmefoam
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shivtim

Georgia

2.42/5  rDev -30.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

I wanted to share something new that was "local," so I picked this up at Hop City in Atlanta and took it up to Indiana to share with friends.
Poured out into a glass. It's brown, slightly translucent, with a one-thumb khaki head laden with large bubbles. Fades very slowly.
Nose is incredibly light. Barely noticeable malts. Nothing offensive though.
Taste was slightly toasted malts. Again, very mild. Gentle alcohol twinge. Weak mouthfeel. I guess it's kinda drinkable, just boring.

Serving type: bottle

01-07-2010 02:22:56 | More by shivtim
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mikedashg

California

4.2/5  rDev +21%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - very very dark brown pour,with a hint of red, almost black with a pretty small off white head

S - nice roasted malt flavor, a bit of bitter sweet cocoa, a little coffee, dark fruits, figs and a touch of caramel

T - Similar to nose. Has a nice sweetness to it that balances the bitter cocoa and coffee, figs, raisons, and dark fruits

M - Moderate to moderately high carbonation, strong body clean and crisp, nice creamy finish

D - Really easy drinking and great flavor, good show!

Serving type: bottle

12-23-2009 02:20:32 | More by mikedashg
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beer2day

North Carolina

3.98/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a very deep and dark red. Nearly opaque. Not sure I have seen a beer this color before. Nice thick 1.5 finger head. Nice retention and lacing. Not a bad looking beer at all.

Nose is very fruity for a doppelbock. Picking up more tart cherry than roast malt. Plum and raisin also chime in. Faintly smoky as well.

Big dose of sweet tea on the initial hit on the tongue. Goes peaty in the middle and finish. Burnt sugar kicks in midway and a little cocoa in the finish. Not bad at all.

For all the body here, feel is still slightly thin.

Very nice to drink. One of the better offerings from this brewery.

Serving type: bottle

12-15-2009 03:35:43 | More by beer2day
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blackie

Virginia

3.95/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a: average tan head atop a deep ruby-brown colored beer

s: heavily toasted grain gives a malty doppel aroma - thick leathery fruits to include prune and fig, some apple and cherry, nutty holiday bread, dark rumlike sugars and cocoa powder, mild hops

m: carbonation medium in level - lively but not abrasive, body is medium-full

t: fig and prune flavors imparted by a heavily caramelized and toasted malt body, elements of a bourbon sweetness, sugars are just a touch elevated but are well under control - quickly turning dry with toasted nuts, dark cocoa, and a papery hop finish

d: no problems here, nice beer for a cool SC evening

single from the Charleston Beer Exchange

Serving type: bottle

12-08-2009 03:00:50 | More by blackie
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oberon

North Carolina

3.25/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I would say this was one of the lighter beers of the style I have had.Poured a chesnut brown color with a thinner but pretty well sustained off white head,very light aromas,I picked up some caramel and a passing iron note.Flavors seemed to be a bit watered down to me,light caramel and dark fruit mainly with a little toasty malt,but again the flavors dont show through that great due to thin feel.Eh, an average to below average take on the style in my opinion.

Serving type: bottle

11-28-2009 13:34:18 | More by oberon
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Bung

North Carolina

3.9/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. Burgundy pour, solid cream colored head that stuck around nicely. Roast malt and humid smelling. Mostly malt, caramel, some mild red fruit and raisin. A definite creaminess to it. Didn't really get any coffee out of this. On the light end of medium body. Was fairly surprised by this one, drinkable, I enjoyed it. I thought this was slightly better than rated here.

Serving type: bottle

11-19-2009 02:44:32 | More by Bung
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towersfall

North Carolina

4.28/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a nice brown color with a nice red tint with an off white head.

Smell: Roasted chocolate and hops is all I can smell. The smell is actually quite faint.

Taste: Malty chocolate punches you in the face with a splash of darker fruit as it's right hook. Exceptionally solid taste with a great aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: A decently strong body with a good amount of carbonation. Once again I can't talk enough about how great the aftertaste of this is.

Drinkability: Not your typical doppelbock due to the somewhat bitter cocoa sweetness. Outstanding and easily drinkable. Put another one in the win column for Thomas Creek!

Serving type: bottle

11-13-2009 05:54:46 | More by towersfall
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Gyle41386

South Carolina

3.9/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pilsener glass.

Dark brown pour with reddish tint. About a finger and a half of tan foam. Pretty cautious pour, as I still haven't mastered the pilsener glass pour. Anyway, the head retention is pretty good, and there's some decent lacing stuck to the glass.

First thing I notice about the aroma is a sweetness. Elements of chocolate, caramel, and ripe dark fruits with a bit of a boozy edge. There's also a roasty quality, like burnt bread that reminds me of a stout.

Flavor is similar to the aroma. The sweetness doesn't seem as prevalent to me as it smelled. The chocolate flavor comes out nicely, as well as the fruit. This beer doesn't really make me think doppelbock, but it's a pleasant flavor. That sweetness gives way to that roasty/burnt element. Light bitterness in the finish.

Medium body feels a bit light for a doppelbock. Not quite the meal in a glass others are. That said, the carbonation level is outstanding, and leaves a soft, plush texture. Maybe not your textbook doppelbock, but an enjoyable beer nonetheless.

Serving type: bottle

11-06-2009 02:41:09 | More by Gyle41386
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cdizinno

South Carolina

4.03/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: Poured from the bottle pictured, into a tulip glass.

A: Dark brown, almost black. Thin tan head with moderate lacing.

S: Sweet malts and alcohol.

T&M: Roasted grains and coffee. Fades with a heavy sweet malt taste and dry finish. Medium bodied with heavy carbonation. Crisp and refresing. Nice complex flavor.

Very difficult to compare to anything. Nice complex flavor like a stout with a body similar to a porter.

Serving type: bottle

09-11-2009 01:21:02 | More by cdizinno
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Reagan1984

Massachusetts

3.18/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Firm creamy 2 finger cap forms and slowly collapses upon itself. Beer is a deep brown the color of some furniture. Slight ruby hue perhaps.

Aroma is very light and slightly sweet. Some cinnamon.

Grainy, caramel sweet with a touch of a burnt flavor. Sort of finishes quickly in the taste department. Some nice roasty notes. There is a sweetness certainly, but still a bit dry for a dopplebock. Slightest coffee tones.

Body is medium and a bit thin for my liking here.

Nicely drinkable, but lacking some real character. It's fine, but won't be remembered in a month.

Serving type: bottle

08-15-2009 21:02:45 | More by Reagan1984
Thomas Creek Deep Water Dopplebock from Thomas Creek Brewery
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