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Panil Barriquée (Sour Version) - Panil

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Panil Barriquée (Sour Version)Panil Barriquée (Sour Version)

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89
very good

339 Ratings
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Ratings: 339
Reviews: 182
rAvg: 3.97
pDev: 13.1%
Wants: 22
Gots: 62 | FT: 2
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Italy

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This is the version imported to the US.

(Beer added by: Phyl21ca on 10-23-2006)
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Photo of Proteus93
3.03/5  rDev -23.7%

This is the 2007 vintage, Batch #9, Bottle #825, picked up at Beer Run in Charlottesville, VA

A: Rather hazy deep reddish brown. Head forms a little bit soapy, but it does retain quite nicely, and when it slips back to a collar, the appearance is a little more creamy.

S: Wet wood, a little musty, some funkiness that I wasn't quite expecting. A little malty, but I don't pick up on a whole lot of the aromas that might suggest this is going to be a sour. Nonetheless, I do find it to be a rather pleasant scent.

T: Unfortunately, as far as the style goes, I feel it suffers a little in flavour. The tartness is very mild, and the overall flavour of the beer seems rather muted. With the typical 'sour cherry' taking a back burner, the woodiness of the oak aging stands out as one of the predominant flavours, and it doesn't really seem to have much to complement. I don't really detect any off-flavours, aside from a touch of papery oxidation, it's just a little lacking.

M: Medium bodied, actually even a little weighty. Carbonation is a bit low, which doesn't help the flavour profile a great deal. The dryness associated with the style is there, but it can't carry the beer attributes alone.

D: A bit disappointed... I had hoped for a nice, complex brew - tart, crisp, dry, with the added oak notes to kick it up a notch. Price was a little high considering the product (~$17). Perhaps a newer vintage would be more to my liking, and if I see one, I'd be willing to give it another shot. Until then, though, I'm not too convinced.

Proteus93, Mar 19, 2010
Photo of Richardberg
2.5/5  rDev -37%

2006 vintage. Fair warning: I may have gotten a bad batch, or bad seal on the bottle.

A - hazy burnt orange / brown, admits a little light but quite opaque. Bit of sediment. Attractive enough, except...absolutely NO carbonation apparent in the pour. I've had 20% ABV stouts show more signs of life.

S - mild funk, red wine vinegar, caramel malt, brandy, sour cherries

T - watery vinegar with a touch of woody age on it. That's about it. I happen to really like sour beers; if not, this could've easily been a 1/5. Even so, there's little resemblance to a high quality Flemish Red or lambic.

M - roughly equivalent to drinking a glass of tap water with a splash of vodka in it

D - the smells are headed in the right general ballpark, and even the flavor isn't terrible per se. Also quite drinkable in a literal sense; the 8% booze is well hidden. But still a big disappointment.

Richardberg, Feb 25, 2010
Photo of nickd717
3.88/5  rDev -2.3%

750ml bottle, vintage 2007, Batch #9, Bottle #211, from K&L in Redwood City. When they marked this down from an arm and a leg to $15, I figured I'd give it a try.

Amazing appearance - pours cloudy reddish brown with a large creamy off-white head and great lacing.

Aroma is oak, earth, tart cherries, funk, and slight vinous notes.

Flavor is only mildly tart, with some sweetness in there to balance. Very fruity - mainly cherry and red grape - with oak, earth, and slight barnyard notes.

Medium body with only mild acidity and soft carbonation.

Pretty drinkable. Probably the best Italian beer I've had, not that that is saying too much.

nickd717, Feb 01, 2010
Photo of ArrogantB
3.65/5  rDev -8.1%

Batch #8 2007 $16 750ml. Dark red like a flanders should be. Smells quite good at first, funky, complex, yeasty, almost like lambic or gueuze. the flavor is nice, sour, woody, pretty nice without beating you over the head with sourness or vinegar. The only drawback is that this beer is way too thin, the alcohol is not noticeable but it still feels a little watery.

ArrogantB, Jan 24, 2010
Photo of tpd975
4.08/5  rDev +2.8%

2005 Version

A: Pours a brownish red hue with a small off white head. No retention or lace.

S: Wonderful wine like aromas. Sour cherry and oak dominate.

T: Nice dark fruit flavors with bold notes of sour cherry and red wine. Light tannins, balsamic vinegar and oak.

M: Medium in body, smooth fairly still carbonation.

D: On the more mild side of the style, darn drinkable.

tpd975, Jan 11, 2010
Photo of raverjames
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%

A: Cherry red with no head. Damn, this beer is still.
S: Sour cherries and funk. Vinegar and a small hint of oak.
T: Tastes mild when you get to the funk. It has a very wine-like flavor that is followed by some sourness. You can taste a bit of oak and vanilla in the background.
M: Acidic yet only slightly sour. Lack of carbonation may be hurting it a bit, but it was still great.
D: Easy to drink due to mild funk and no carbonation. Actually, I missed the carbonation. It does have some booze in the background and I think it could use a little more age.

raverjames, Dec 13, 2009
Photo of homebrewhawk
3.55/5  rDev -10.6%

Batch #10 Riserva 2008. 750ml bottle. Bottle conditioned. Served in the second gen. Boulevard Chalice. Poured a dark reddish brown with little head. There was very little carbonation to this. Fruity aroma with some cherry. Slightly tart cherry flavor, some sweetness. Light bodied. Bit of oak in the finish. Also a little sharpness in the finish. Flavor improved as it opened up a bit, but I was a little disappointed with this.

homebrewhawk, Nov 27, 2009
Photo of bruachan
4.43/5  rDev +11.6%

batch #9 from 2007. bottle #881

deep brownish red (looked a little pink while pouring). head wasn't opulent but is actually pretty good for a flanders

fantastic aroma: sour but thoroughly malty

mounting acetic character allows for appreciation of the fruity and malty elements before the tart kicks in. pear, cider. red flanders typically aren't the deepest of brews, presenting a major feature that we all love so, but this one defies ever so slightly

light and champaigny. refreshing. to be honest i can't really tell that it's oak-aged. perhaps oaky vanilla just doesn't adhere itself to this style, or perhaps i would notice if i had an unoaked batch to compare

bruachan, Nov 22, 2009
Photo of cptierney
4.38/5  rDev +10.3%

2007 vintage (batch 9) poured into a Duvel tulip.

An aggressive pour yielded a murky mahogany colored brew. A solid head appeared with a little coaxing and the finger of foam quickly receded. As the brew disappeared the lacing on the sides of the glass was strong.

What a delightful, funky barnyard nose to this beer! There's the leathery, oaky glow of the cognac barrels that supplements the sour fruit notes perfectly.

The mouthfeel on this guy falls a bit short. Maybe a tad to thin and slightly under-carbonated. Just slightly though, not nearly as bad as what I've read in other reviews. Though it is no way a deal breaker.

I love that I can taste sooo much of the barrel in this beer. The flavor is like licking a cork or some wood chips- really prevalent. There are the requisite sour fruit hits of un-ripened grapes and apple cider vinegar making for a funky and enjoyable ride. This guy is certainly more sour than the Duchesse, which I feel gives it a slight edge.

Solid drinkability. No idea that this guy is 8% ABV. A surprisingly quaffable sour.

cptierney, Nov 11, 2009
Photo of EvilPumpkin
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%

A: Pours a dark reddish brown with almost no head and no lacing whatsoever.

S: A strong combination of brett tartness and oak with a little vanilla mixed in. Pleasant.

T: Very tart with a slight sweetness. The oak doesn't come through in the taste as strongly as it did in the smell but it is still present.

M: Very thin and barely carbonated.

D: While the beer smells and tastes nice, the thin watery mouthfeel just doesn't do it for me and really negatively affects the beer. Still a pleasant experience overall but not something I would necessarily choose again unless I knew the thinness and severe lack of carbonation was a fluke of this particular bottle.

EvilPumpkin, Oct 21, 2009
Photo of KeefD
3.85/5  rDev -3%

Pours a dark reddish brown color with a small, bubbly light tan head that was gone quickly, falling to some medium sized bubbles and no lacing. Aroma is full of buttery oak, acidic, some notes of cherries, apple skins, light citrus, some mustiness, Belgian yeast, and a touch of vinegar. Flavor is dry and tart. Cherries are the most predominant of the fruit character, but it's a tart cherry flavor and yet not completely sour. A little bit of caramel and brown sugar lie deep in the back of the flavor profile, but it's there only momentarily until the dry, tannic tartness washes it away. Oak is not as noticeable on the tonuge as it is in the nose, but it is there, and adds a nice touch. Mouthfeel is a tad thin, on the medium-light side, and the warming alcohol is noticeable on the finish. Not as refreshing as most Flemish Red's I've had. It's definitely a sipper, especially at 8% ABV. This is pairing nicely with the beef stew I'm enjoying at the moment, as the acidity is cutting nicely across the savory beef, herbs, and spices.

KeefD, Oct 18, 2009
Photo of david18
4.47/5  rDev +12.6%

I've been hearing about the Italian beers for a while now and when I was recently in whole foods on Manhattan's Upper West Side, there was quite a selection. Barleywines, stouts and this very good beer. It says red sour ale and that's exactly what it is and, in my opinion as good as any sour ale i've had.

Dark Red color, excellent sour flavor and aroma. This is an excellent beer! I would almost rate it as high as a good gueze.

The only problem is that it's a little expensive.

david18, Oct 10, 2009
Photo of OStrungT
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

This beer pours a dark ruby red color, with absolutely no head. Zero lace also. Absolutely no carbonation at all.

This beer has a mild sour fruit aroma. Some oak notes mix in. A slight vinegar aroma also. Some funky yeast is also present.

This beer tastes just like it smells. Sour fruit and vinegar. Also, some oak and earthy yeast.

This beer is very wattery. No carbonation. It leaves a tart cherry aftertaste.

This beer wouldnt be the best session beer. Sour, slightly high in alcohol, and no carbonation make it kind of a bust.

Overall: This beer would be better carbonated. i dont know what went wrong. Other than that, it is pretty good though.

OStrungT, Sep 12, 2009
Photo of pokesbeerdude
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%

750 ml single from Wilburs in Ft. Collins, $23. Bottle 678 of batch #10, 2008.

A: Dark ruby in color with a dense, cream colored head, about two fingers thick. Fair head retention and fair lacing, somewhat cloudy, nice looking beer.

S: Barnyard, funk, slightly medicinal, has smells of lemons, and sour cherries, definite wild yeast strain, slightly mineral as well. Not really as complex as I'd figured. Smells tart, but not that impressive.

T: Tart, fresh berries, think currents, or not quite ripe cherries, definite vanilla, oak profile as well. Slightly bitter, but definitely due more to alcohol than a hop presence. Slightly metallic as well. Has a definite sour yeast strain and that dominates all other flavors, which is no surprise. Sadly, there are no other flavors than the yeast, and the little bit of vanilla from the barrel aging.

M: Thin, and puckeringly sour, fair amount of carbonation, and quite dry. Definitely hits all those notes. Fairly smooth in spite of all the carbonation. Pretty lactic, lots of thick spit created from this.

D: Fairly easy to drink, minus the price tag, all in all, a decent sour beer, but comes up lacking in the nose and in the mouth. All the right things are there, but just not quite strong enough. Fair amount of good flavors, but there are better examples. Entirely too expensive for what you get in the bottle.

pokesbeerdude, Sep 12, 2009
Photo of BARFLYB
3.93/5  rDev -1%

750ml bottle into a few wine glasses with friends.

A- Panil has a mix of brown and red with a focujs on the former giving off a dark color. A faint dismal head only reached a cm in height with a off white look.

S- This is batch 10 so I believe this spent more time in the barrel, so oak is the main smell coming from this. With that some vanilla and sour cherries with some vinegar.

T- A more refined panil with a nice oak presense throughout. Oak, vanilla, sour cherries are the main tastes. Everytime I have this it reminds me alot like wine mixed with beer characteristics. Some acidity along with sourness which is not overkill.

M- Kind of lacking and could use some tinkering. A medium feel with a dull strength for carbonation. Although this is a flanders red the sour/tartness is again lighter than expected. This could use just a bit more ummphh.

D- I enjoyed it but am glad I shared the bottle, A 750 of this would be a bit much for me. A good beer that I always enjoy but won't go out of my way for all the time.

BARFLYB, Aug 15, 2009
Photo of beachbum1975
3.58/5  rDev -9.8%

Thanks newtonty!

Batch # 9, bottle number 1400 from 2007.

Pours a dark brown to amber with a rather dull white head which doesn't last long. Great, stringy, bright white legs.

Nice nose with nice, sour attributes. After sitting, I detect a nice, brown ale base in this...

The flavor is much like the nose. Sour and enjoyable.

The mouthfeel is a bit watery at time and the flavor dropped off quicker then I anticipated.

beachbum1975, Aug 12, 2009
Photo of HopHead84
3.95/5  rDev -0.5%

Thanks Torry. Pours murky brown with highlights of rusty orange near the edges. The small head is white and bubbly. It disappears immediately.

The aroma is oak with cherries. It's slightly tart with some lactic character, vinegar, and sugary sweetness. The cognac is noticeable, adding a unique and pleasant element to the nose. Warming reveals earthiness and more prominent oak.

The flavor opens up sweet and tart with cherries and plums. The tartness fades midpalate and oak becomes noticeable, as well as a little acetic acid. The beer finishes sweet with oak, dark fruits and a touch of lactic tartness.

The beer is medium bodied with low carbonation and a smooth mouthfeel.

HopHead84, Aug 05, 2009
Photo of Vaultdweller
2.8/5  rDev -29.5%

Bottle says brewed in 2006.

A - Opaque dark reddish brown with light creamy head dissolving in the center.

S - Funky horse blanket, phenol alcohols, tart fruits, and candi sugar.

T - Light malt sweetness with slight tart up front gives way to moderate sourness, reminiscent of a wine with out a lot of fruitiness or acidity.

M - Medium carbonation with smooth creamy mouthfeel, leaves mouth and taste buds somewhat dried out from the sourness.

D - Good presentation of balance, if that can be said of Flanders Red.

Vaultdweller, Jul 20, 2009
Photo of beertooth
3.88/5  rDev -2.3%

Bottle poured into goblets with some friends at the Maproom.

Batch #9 Bottle # 1535.

Pours a reddish brown with a finger of dirty white head.

The nose gives me some vinegar, dark stone fruits, a little bretty funk, sour candies. A ton of cherries!

The first sip gives me some vinegar, tobacco, white grape skin, peach pit, some warming booze and spice. Cherries, booyah!

I could drink a ton of this, it's a pretty mellow. There's a little funk and some sourness. Probably the best beer I've had from Italy so far. The price tag at the bar was a little much, but oh well.

An interesting beer none the less.

beertooth, Jun 25, 2009
Photo of tai4ji2x
4.35/5  rDev +9.6%

750ml green glass. sticker at base of neck indicates:
batch #9
2007
bottle #317

tasted in mid-april 2009. poured into tulip.

very dark ruby, almost brown. clear on first pours. large, light tan head, foamy and creamy, fades very slowly to a thin wispy layer and ring. very good lacing.

aroma: gentle funk, balsamic and cider vinegars, woody notes, almost vanilla. damp earth, fallen leaves and hay. hint of caramel, hint of red wine.

taste: rich (not just one-dimensionally sour) vinegar note, with red wine, cider, malt and balsamic vinegars all making appearances. more oaky red wine, gentle funk and leafy but faint hop note with very mild bitterness. lightly tart, off-dry finish with yet more vinous notes.

light, almost watery, but overall surprisingly smooth, punctuated by acidic and tannic notes, plus spritzy yet mild carbonation, giving texture and flavor lift.

tai4ji2x, Jun 19, 2009
Photo of taylorhamrick
3.85/5  rDev -3%

Batch 9 (2007) bottle 551

Pours out red, almost brown, with a dense yellow/off-white head, leaving n ice lacing and having some decent retention. I'm really impressed, looks much better than I'd expect. The smell is a very deep and light funk. Not very strong, and just a bit less than I expected. This one comes out with a bit off sourness, quite a lot of tartness, and a pleasant sweetness. This one reminds me a bit more of beer than the average Flanders Red. Has notes of raisin, chocolate, caramel, and a tiny bit of breadiness. The sourness comes off first like sour candy, then comes in with lime juice, and finishes with a bit of woody sweetness. I like it. I've had a few which are more impressive, and I may be a sour hound, loving every one I taste, but I think it's got everything it takes, but not the wow factor. The carbonation is just perfect, pleasant great. The body is quite full. Moreso than I expected, and it almost feels warm at 50ish degrees. Very nice I'd say. This one goes down very pleasantly, not too bold, but has a high enough ABV to get at you. I'd recommend it to anyone - especially if you can afford it.

taylorhamrick, May 11, 2009
Photo of Douglas14
4/5  rDev +0.8%

Pours out a pretty dark color for the style. It is brown with ruby hints coming through the edges. There is no head at all, but that could be due to the gentle pour. The aroma is of oak, cherries, and alcohol. A definitely tart qualities shocks the nose as well. The taste is very sour with notes of oak and maybe some sugar. Glad I wad able to try it...love that Italians are starting to make some awesome beers

Douglas14, May 03, 2009
Photo of MMAJYK
3.93/5  rDev -1%

A. Deep chalky brown. No head at all. Opaque. Not sure what to think here.

S. Cherry coke, but with Brett! I can see it now...anyway, this beer has tangy, oak, twists and turns, just all over the place.

T. Oaky and sour with complimenting lemons, funk, cherries and char.

M. Medium textured with low to no carbonation.

D. Not a bad sipping drink. I enjoyed it for sure.

MMAJYK, Mar 16, 2009
Photo of bowersdm
1.98/5  rDev -50.1%

'05 vintage picked up today. this is not my first Flanders Red, but I do believe that since my first was Duchesse de Bourgogne, I'm going to be let down by many FRAs. 750mL bottle, 10 or so ounces of which was poured into a snifter. The remaining 15 ounces went down the drain after not enjoying this beer. Served at cellar temperature

A - ruby, almost red-brown color. no head, but given that it's 3 years old, I didn't expect much.

S - lactic acid, oak, a touch (less than a touch, a micro-touch? a nano-touch?) of cherries. nothing else.

T - lactic acid, musty attic, hint of cherry in the end. very dry overall and definitely not good. If FRAs are supposed to get more sour with age, then this beer must have been bottled in '05 as water, because it's weak for the style.

M - worst. mouthfeel. ever. it was like water.

D - I'm not going to entirely rule out drinking this beer again, but I'd only consider a fresh one.

bowersdm, Mar 05, 2009
Photo of brewandbbq
4.4/5  rDev +10.8%

Vintage 2005, 750ml bottle at 52 degrees.

Pours deep ruby and clear with an inch-plus head of bone dense foam.
Retention is fairly remarkable for a sour. A solid skim coat remained on the surface for the duration, with a few errant dots of lacework.

Aromatics lead off with soured cherries, acid-laced malt, tannic oak, and minerally stonefruit. A slightly jammy note pulls through along with tart appleskins.

Medium bodied with a crisp, tart mouthfeel. Drying and quenching.

Red fruits and clean acid start the palate as well as cherry pits, appleskins, and an oaky dryness.
An intense, wine-like vineousity steps forward and crushes what slight residual sweetness was found at the beginning.
Drying tannins and a woody earthiness follows through.

Finishes with lingering bright acid, cherry pits and drying, minerally tannins.

What a great beer. So damn drinkable with just enough acid and barely lactic. Just a brief hint of residuals up front adds a nice complexity to the bone-dry tannins in the finish.
Massively quenching.

brewandbbq, Jan 12, 2009
Panil Barriquée (Sour Version) from Panil
89 out of 100 based on 339 ratings.