Panil Barriquée (Sour Version) - Panil

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Panil Barriquée (Sour Version)Panil Barriquée (Sour Version)

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88
very good

360 Ratings
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Ratings: 360
Reviews: 186
rAvg: 3.95
pDev: 13.42%
Wants: 24
Gots: 61 | FT: 2
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Italy

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This is the version imported to the US.

(Beer added by: Phyl21ca on 10-23-2006)
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Photo of levifunk
4.1/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This was brought to the last Madison, BA tasting.

2007 Vintage

a - dark red color. low carbonation.

s - sour raspberry or cherry.

t - holy sour! very tart flavor. dry wood. some fish funk.

m - medium-light body, but the sour rips my tongue

overall - aaah, ok, now I get why people like sours. This was my first real sour experience, and I'm loving it.

Photo of Jayli
3.7/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

2008 Riserva, batch #10, bottle #1035
Poured in to my Portsmouth Tulip

A: This beer pours a ruddy, deep brown, reddish color with a one finger of sudsy offwhite/khaki colored head. Head recedes quickly leaving minor spiderwebbed lacing on the glass.

S: Nose is of tart cherry, oak, hint of vanilla, and a bit of vinegar.

T: Taste starts with a bit of a red vinegar flavoring to it before moving in to more a more woody, earthy flavoring. Finish is where the tart cherries really start to come through but are nicely balanced with a oak notes.

M: Lighter side of medium body, starts of rather creamy and then becomes very light, almost watery in the finish.

D: Goes down easily, not filling, mild kick, decent representation of style. The mouthfeel was a bit off for me, as it became extremely watery in the finish.

Photo of srandycarter
3.85/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #10
bottle number 1680
2008

A - Reddish brown, somewhat murky, reduces to a ring fast on the head. Light spotty lacing.

S - Tart, sharp, fruity, definite wood smell.

T - Tangy, a little puckering, noticeable wood near finish.

M - Creamy underneath, sharp on top. Nice balance and good carb overall.

D - Not my favorite sour, but pretty drinkable at 8%.

Photo of Docer
3.75/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle to try.... Batch #11 Bottle #2094 2009

- Wonderful slightly murky ruby red, slight browns... glowing violet... slightly off white fizzy head... couple fingers down to a thin spotty layer and large ring of lace...

- Slightly spicy... cinnamon, sour tartness.... currants... certainly some oak there... cherry... light vanilla... all blended very well.

- Wonderfully smooth and balanced... not hot at all.. great malt presence which is balanced perfectly with the oak flavors, currant lactic flavor.. spice and cinnamon... clove... plumb... very well rounded.

- Thin, with a slightly creamy texture... light bodied.. only a touch dry.

- Very good sour... impressed. I love the style, and am glad I tried this one.. certainly spot on and delicious. I let it warm up a bit, and poured into a fitting glass.

Photo of womencantsail
3.7/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from Batch 8, 2007, thanks to Nathan in the Sour BIF.

A: The pour is a fairly typical dark amber color with plenty of brown to it. The head is somewhat mild in volume and off-white in color.

M: Quite fruity for a Flanders red ale. Lots of cherries, green apples, and a bit of lemon. Plenty of oak, a hint of vinegar, and some light sweetness.

D: A bit lighter in flavor than I would have expected. The fruitiness translates well to the flavor, as do the vinegar and oakiness. There is, however, a bit of a metallic flavor at times.

M: The body seems a bit thin, but for a sour beer it is a bit more forgivable. Moderate and tinging carbonation.

D: Pretty easy beer to drink, but not all that impressive. Maybe a more current vintage would change things a bit.

Photo of jrallen34
3.5/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had this from a 750ml bottle, 2009 batch #11, bottle # 876...The beer pours a dark mahogany, light tan head, ok lacing...The aroma is light a little sour and vinegar, same with the taste but this beer is severly lacking to other great flanders. Lightly tart but not enough punch or vinegar. Really kind of boring and disappointing. Maybe a good flanders red for the beginner.

Photo of metter98
3.98/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: It poured brownish-red in color with the head consisting of just a thin layer of bubbles on the surface. A light amount of carbonation is visible from the rising bubbles.
S: There is a moderate sour and acidic aroma in the nose.
T: Like the smell, there is sourness in the overall taste with distinct flavors from the oak barrel aging that lend comlexity, particularly in the finish. There are also some hints of cherries.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate with some dryness in the finish.
D: The beer has a good amount of drinkability, particularly if you like sour flavors.

Notes: Batch #8 (2007 Vintage), Bottle #2680

Photo of philbe311
3.85/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Year - 2009 / Batch #11 / Bottle #1295

A - A fingers worth of audibly fizzy light tan rich creamy head that quickly fades leaving a similar veil of lacing with a slight thicker ring around the edge of the snifter... Fairly still without any noticeable carbonation though slight side to side tilted with agitate a little bit towards the top of the glass... A dark and slightly brooding mix of cranberry and rusty brown... There's is a subtle glow at the top of the glass resulting from the light that is allowed to permeate...

S - A potent and complex nose... Vinegar... Booze... Dark cherry... Hints of oak...

T - A pleasant interplay of cherries and oak to start... A mix of tannin like qualities and a blistering sourness on finish and provide a long lasting aftertaste...

M - On the lighter side of medium bodied... Some tingly carbonation... Starts with a slight lushness but quickly becomes puckering...

D - A definite sipper... Complex with some distinct red wine like qualities... Loaded with complexity... A bottle with exploring and sharing... However, I'm not sure it's a must try, especially given a fairly high price point...

Photo of csmiley
3.28/5  rDev -17%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Pours kind of sienna with a medium brown around the edges. Head is absent. Even with an aggressive pour. Because of this, no lacing and no retention. Really? The color is nice but that is the only quality here to speak of.

S - Starts out with a sweet fruitiness. Mostly cherry with a malty undertone. Oak quickly comes through as well. Alcohol is present but stays mostly behind the other aromas. Picking up some raspberry but it is very faint.

T - Oak really stands out in the flavor. Tart cherry mixes in well with that. Red apple and grape come through midway. Again, alcohol is there but it doesn't take away from the taste in any way. There is a little bit of mustiness at this point as well. Grape hangs on throughout and gives it an overall feel of wine. Finishes with more oak and a distant hint of candied sugar.

M - Lighter bodied with practically no carbonation. The grape presence that gives a wine like feel helps out the lack of carbonation but only minimally. Finish is tart and first and ends up a little sweet.

D - Drinkability is decent. That is about all that can be said for this one. The flavors seem to work well together even without any suds. The combination of oak, fruit, and earthiness is done pretty well. A 750 ml bottle is no problem in one setting but I'd like to see some changes made before trying my hand at this one again.

Photo of prototypic
3.4/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Vintage 2006

Barriquee pours a light reddish brown color. Looks almost copper with backlighting. A soft, off-white head tops it off. It's very modest and doesn't even rise to a finger in depth. Retention was on the short side. Lacing was a little sticky and moderate.

The nose is a little weak and uninspiring. It would benefit from more strength. Oak is fairly prominent. Its presence has a positive overall impact. I'm not sure if it's the effect of the cognac barrel aging or what, but it has a medicinal scent that's not very pleasant. There's a little cherry and other berry scents. It smells a little tart, but not much. Alcohol is a little noticeable. Meh. It's above average, but not by much.

The flavor is just above average. It kicks off with a very medicinal cherry-like flavor. Not a fan. I'm really curious if it's cognac that's having that effect. It has a slight sour cherry twist, but it's not aggressively tart by any stretch. Not even close to mouth puckering. Oak is noted and adds a bit of a nice flavor. Alcohol is there, but isn't warm or hot at all. Finishes a little sweet and dry. Honestly, I'm disappointed. There seems to be lack of overall flavor. Perhaps I aged it a little too long. Who knows?

Barriquee has a light/medium body. Carbonation is very light. Too light. I guess it's somewhat smooth, but more bubbles would be a plus. Drinkability is very average. I'm not excited about the flavor. I guess it goes down somewhat easy, I'm not really enjoying it. Ready to move on.

Panil Barriquee is a rather big disappointment for me. I was excited about this one, and held on to the bottle for quite a while. Maybe it diminished in that period of time. The biggest problems are the lack of flavor, the medicinal taste, and the lack of bubbles. Fix those things and it'd be all the better for it. Can't recommend it at this point. I don't recall exactly what I paid for this, but whatever it was...it was too much.

Photo of ikats
3.93/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

My bottle is batch #8 (2007). It's 2010 now, so it is at least 3 years old (however, for a 8% sour beer I don't think it's a crime).

Pouring clear, dark amber in color with slightly off white head. Lacing is all around the glass. Quite sticky beer. Aroma is of course sour, but not overpowering. Kind of similar to wine - I guess that would be oak influence (definitely oak notes in the aroma and taste). Taste is not as sour as I expected. Perhaps it has mellowed out. Just a little sourness. It is actually more sweet with some sourness just tickling the tongue. Very drinkable. Medium body (maybe even on a lighter side). Alcohol is not apparent.

If I remember correctly this bottle was my birthday gift which makes it a bit more special (but does not influence the ratings).

I'll gladly try it again, but it's not at the top of my sours list.

Photo of Jessee
3.38/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Very light head, that goes fast. Nice color (dark red, with light red on the edges).
Smell was nothing special at all, but decent.
Taste was good, but flat didn't follow through for the initial taste on the tongue.
Mouthfeel was very thin and flat (biggest downfall)
Easy to drink, but partially for the lack of carbonation and flatness of mouthfeel.

Batch #11 (2009)

Drinkin from a Satan glass

Photo of Sammy
4.35/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is a masterpiece and one of the best sour beers as I am ranking to style. The reddish colour is awesome. The aroma is alcoholic is best I can say. It is very easy drinking, not thick which I liked and is dangerously easy to finish. It is complex with cognac, woody, avnilla, sour cherry. Because of the sourness this is not for everybody.

Though soaked in casks formerly used for cognac and wine, I note that it is considered kosher because there is no real wine, it's not considered the actual flavour by the science of kashruth. I had previously spoken to the head of the most senior inspector in Canada about this and I can pass on details if anyone is inetrested.

Photo of midnite2sixman
4.13/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into 3 tulips from a 750 ml bottle. Courtesy of the Hop Cat in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Batch #9 2007. Bottle # 1138

Blood red color, while held to light, otherwise a stained mahogany. Sandy colored head. Nice globby lacing.

Sour cherries, black cherry, slightly toasty.

Shockingly citrusy chocolate flavor hit me on the initial sip, but this one is complex and all over the map. Slightly cherry again in the taste as well, but some toast and acidity. This one is a doozy. I'm slightly confused about this one but majorly intrigued.

Light on the tongue but quite complex on the finish. Lingering flavors, cognac barrels shine through the most on this.

Definitely worth the purchase.

Photo of ktrillionaire
4.75/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2006 Vintage, shared with Bobby8405 during the 2010 NFL Draft.

A - It pours a tannic ruby-chestnut hue, very translucent, with a small amount of oak sediment, and a thin persistent cap of tan foam with slight spotty-streaky lacing.

S - Smells pretty pungently sour, with lots of wood in the nose adding a fruity sweetness.

T - This beer is fantastic; it tastes like a classic Flanders Red. Sweet woody and earthy notes are balanced by bright acetic fruit tones and rounded out by a tart lactic sourness that asserts itself on the finish. Very well-balanced, and at four years old, it tastes like it is in peak condition.

M - Velvety smooth, and medium-light-bodied, with a gentle effervescence.

D - This is a superb brew, especially at this age. I have had fresher samples, two years old, and they are not quite on this level yet.

Photo of Huhzubendah
3.4/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Batch 11 - bottle 1030. Shared by WorldWideStout at a recent tasting.

A: Light brown, little head, very little lacing.

S: Unusual scents make me a bit cautious and unsure. The funky bandaid monster has visited this beer.

T: Spicy flavors and weirdness. I'm also getting wood (in the taste), funky sourness, basement mustiness, and bandaids.

M: Ok feel, but again, this tasted out of kilter.

D: I'm always thankful to try a beer I haven't had, but now I know I don't need to purchase this one or seek it out.

Photo of pmlondrigan
3.95/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a wonderful deep ruby with an off white head, super retention and some tight lacing. Light sour aroma, oaky, fruity. Mild musty basement in the background. Lovely vinuous quality to the flavor, almost dry but not totaly dry, tasty berry fruit flavors, pleasantly tart but not sour. Drinks easier than some other of the style. Great beer enjoyed it a lot but don't know if I could put down more then a 750ml. One thing is for sure, best sour red I have had.

Photo of cichief
4.33/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle marked Batch #9 2007, Bottle #4.

A- Poured a nice deep amber-red with an ample reddish-brown head.

S- Scents of ripe fruit and sweet malt rather strong.

T- Very ripe fruitness, the sweetness though is balanced with a great sour finish.

M- Well done, not too bubbly, but carbonated, medium on the tongue, not heavy at all.

D- Noth the best sour red ale I've had but very good. Surprised Italians made such a beer.

Photo of drpimento
4.83/5  rDev +22.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Great stuff in an evening of sampling some classic sour ales. This one poured with a nice off white fine head and some lace. Color is a copper amber. Aroma is floral, berry, yeast, malt. Flavor is similar and rich. Body is full and round. Body is outstanding and so is carbonation. Finish is like the flavor. Lots of character yet easy drinking, pleasant. A masterpiece. Perhaps a session for sipping.

Photo of drabmuh
3.98/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Batch 11 - bottle 1030. Shared by WorldWideStout at a recent tasting.

Beer is brown and forms an off whtie head. Not much lacing, carbonation moderate to low.

Beer smells odd -- really funky, odd sour aroma but it gets better as it calms down.

So, there were a lot of strong opinions about this beer at the tasting but I really enjoyed it. Beer is kind of sweet at first, strong funk in the middle palate of the mouth, alcohol flavor and it finishes slightly dry with a woodsey aftertaste. Its better than most thought but its not my favorite. I would drink it again.

Photo of CampusCrew
4.03/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2005 edition

appearance: poured into a red wine glass as I always do for a flanders red. garnett reddish brown tones

smell: oak? maybe, but defintly has that tart vinegar aroma

taste: tart cherries, balsamic, some wood on the back possibly.

mouthfeel: light-medium bodied

drinkability: I thought this was going to be mind blowing sour after 5 years. no more than a rodenbach clssic. but a very good sour.

Photo of Proteus93
3.03/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This is the 2007 vintage, Batch #9, Bottle #825, picked up at Beer Run in Charlottesville, VA

A: Rather hazy deep reddish brown. Head forms a little bit soapy, but it does retain quite nicely, and when it slips back to a collar, the appearance is a little more creamy.

S: Wet wood, a little musty, some funkiness that I wasn't quite expecting. A little malty, but I don't pick up on a whole lot of the aromas that might suggest this is going to be a sour. Nonetheless, I do find it to be a rather pleasant scent.

T: Unfortunately, as far as the style goes, I feel it suffers a little in flavour. The tartness is very mild, and the overall flavour of the beer seems rather muted. With the typical 'sour cherry' taking a back burner, the woodiness of the oak aging stands out as one of the predominant flavours, and it doesn't really seem to have much to complement. I don't really detect any off-flavours, aside from a touch of papery oxidation, it's just a little lacking.

M: Medium bodied, actually even a little weighty. Carbonation is a bit low, which doesn't help the flavour profile a great deal. The dryness associated with the style is there, but it can't carry the beer attributes alone.

D: A bit disappointed... I had hoped for a nice, complex brew - tart, crisp, dry, with the added oak notes to kick it up a notch. Price was a little high considering the product (~$17). Perhaps a newer vintage would be more to my liking, and if I see one, I'd be willing to give it another shot. Until then, though, I'm not too convinced.

Photo of Richardberg
2.5/5  rDev -36.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 3

2006 vintage. Fair warning: I may have gotten a bad batch, or bad seal on the bottle.

A - hazy burnt orange / brown, admits a little light but quite opaque. Bit of sediment. Attractive enough, except...absolutely NO carbonation apparent in the pour. I've had 20% ABV stouts show more signs of life.

S - mild funk, red wine vinegar, caramel malt, brandy, sour cherries

T - watery vinegar with a touch of woody age on it. That's about it. I happen to really like sour beers; if not, this could've easily been a 1/5. Even so, there's little resemblance to a high quality Flemish Red or lambic.

M - roughly equivalent to drinking a glass of tap water with a splash of vodka in it

D - the smells are headed in the right general ballpark, and even the flavor isn't terrible per se. Also quite drinkable in a literal sense; the 8% booze is well hidden. But still a big disappointment.

Photo of nickd717
3.88/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle, vintage 2007, Batch #9, Bottle #211, from K&L in Redwood City. When they marked this down from an arm and a leg to $15, I figured I'd give it a try.

Amazing appearance - pours cloudy reddish brown with a large creamy off-white head and great lacing.

Aroma is oak, earth, tart cherries, funk, and slight vinous notes.

Flavor is only mildly tart, with some sweetness in there to balance. Very fruity - mainly cherry and red grape - with oak, earth, and slight barnyard notes.

Medium body with only mild acidity and soft carbonation.

Pretty drinkable. Probably the best Italian beer I've had, not that that is saying too much.

Photo of ArrogantB
3.65/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Batch #8 2007 $16 750ml. Dark red like a flanders should be. Smells quite good at first, funky, complex, yeasty, almost like lambic or gueuze. the flavor is nice, sour, woody, pretty nice without beating you over the head with sourness or vinegar. The only drawback is that this beer is way too thin, the alcohol is not noticeable but it still feels a little watery.

Panil Barriquée (Sour Version) from Panil
88 out of 100 based on 360 ratings.