Crooked Stave Persica Blend #1 - Crooked Stave Brewery & Taproom

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Crooked Stave Persica Blend #1Crooked Stave Persica Blend #1

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BA SCORE
89
very good

132 Ratings
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Ratings: 132
Reviews: 18
rAvg: 3.97
pDev: 12.85%
Wants: 14
Gots: 24 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Crooked Stave Brewery & Taproom visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: CheapBeerBuzz on 11-16-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of joel66
3.78/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle poured dark hazy orange color,

Smell of candied peach, sweet juice and citrus

Flavor of peach e o's, candy, metal with a tart finish.

Light carbonation, clean finish

Overall, not great, needs time to develop. Has a lot of potential, but was a bit disappointed

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.74/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

375 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Hazy pale orange. No head. Just a thin white collar.

Smell - Nice peach aroma. Slightly acidic. Light graininess. Mild brett, but more of a lactic acidity.

Taste - Bright tartness. Peach isn't as... peachy. Lemony tartness. Grain. Clean lactic sour finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium light. Pleasantly light and drinkable.

Overall - This is a far cry from how I remember the original Persica, but it's still very good.

Photo of KYGunner
4.15/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bright peach like coloring yielded a fizzy, bubbly but lively head.

The aroma was of sweet buttered popcorn, a caramel malt and then peaches and apricots. Not a typical blend but very easy on the nose.

The flavor held some sour tartness with a lemony cream, sweet caramel and toffee notes and a creamy butterscotch that had rich candies written all over it.

The feel was snappy and alive with the the high champagne like bubbling but it had a easy fullness.

I will admit that I'm a sucker for creamy caramel and butterscotch flavors and then to blend it well with a tart lemon, bravo!

Photo of jlindros
3.37/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Thanks to Francois for giving this to me as a thank you gift. Shared with rudzud and Ricky.

Light fizzy head, semi hazy straw watery color.

Nose mild peach, tons of butterscotch candy, buttered popcorn, fake imitation movie popcorn, little grain, hint of Brett funk.

Taste stats with a nice peach, canned peaches, then light funk and Brett, but again lots of diacetyl and buttered popcorn and worthers butterscotch candy. Finish is sticky tart and little flemmy, little peach, little diacetyl.

Mouth is lighter bod, lighter carb, flemmy and little slimy.

Overall a big let down. Seems like it would have been a great beer like the original, but that diacetyl just destroys it.

Photo of Rifugium
3.52/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a CS tulip, light-amber color, slightly cloudy, with a thin cap of moderately-retaining white head. They say this one is "buttery," and indeed I could smell it right away. Off? Perhaps, but still not terrible. Lent to a cake-ish quality that actually complimented the fruity peach notes and caramel malts. Again, the taste was a bit buttery, but not nearly as prominent as the aroma, bready malts, peach and white wine notes, hints of oak and herbal hops; tartness was light, but still subtly present. Body was medium, mouthfeel was decently smooth, though perhaps a bit uncomfortable if you focus too much on the butteriness. That aside, this was still a decent beer. Blend #2 was better.

Photo of 4DAloveofSTOUT
3.24/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.75

I have been wanting to try Persica for a very long time! So here we go.

375ml bottle with a pressure cap and yellow wax.

poured into Crooked Stave tulip glass.

Appearance: translucent yellow/orange bodied beer with 2 fingers of creamy and dense white head. Head drops down to a thin white ring around the outside of the glass.

Smell: ripe and juicy peaches. This has loads of bready malts and its slightly earthy too. Hint of sweet citrus. Almost a peach cobbler or peach candy smell about the beer. This smells nice! Slight hint of buttered popcorn as it warms up.

Taste: A sweet peach flavor, that is stronger than the tartness of the beer. I would say that it has a very mild tartness in this finish. As the tartness goes away in the finish, the tartness fades into a rich buttery popcorn note. As the beer warms up to room temperature, you get a rather stronger buttery flavor that is identical to a jelly belly butter popcorn jellybean.

Mouthfeel: light bodied beer with low carbonation. The carbonation is slighly creamy, but the mouthfeel is better described as almost flat. The beer also seems to have a richness to it and coats your mouth, but I would not consider the beer to be syrupy.

Overall: I am overall dissapointed with this beer based on three things:
1. The reputation of Persica batch 1.
2. The high quality standards that Crooked Stave has kept with in their Cellar Reserve series.
3. The beer is not very sour, not much carbonation is present, and off flavors (Diacetyl/buttery flavor) are definately present in the beer.

In my opinion, this beer is reminicent of a barely carbonated peach saison. It does not qualify in the category of a Wild Ale brewed with peaches as it was originally intended by the brewer. This beer might get better with some time spent developing in the bottle and it might eventually become a tart and carbonated Wild Ale. I think it will probably take a long time for the beer to become sour and gain some much needed carbonation. With a little bit of luck the bugs might eat the buttered popcorn flavor out of the beer as well. I believe that this buttered flavor is Diacetyl. It is normally not desirable in beer and is consider an off flavor. I dont know much about it, but I have heard it is a natural brewing phenomena that has potential to happen in many different beer styles and more frequently in wild ales.

Now with all that said...this beer wasnt absolutely horrible, but I think Crooked Stave could have done a much better job with this beer. I was able to drink about half the 375ml bottle and that was the limit that I could drink.

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.15/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle opened 2.4.14

A - Pours a hazy light orange with a fizzy white head that is gone fast.

S - Brett, oak, funky, subtle peach.

T - Oaky and nice peach, subtle tartness, very slight hint of butter in the after taste. Recent bottles do not show this. I will rate accordingly.

D - Light body with good carbonation.

O - Thankfully not a butter-bomb, and now the butter is gone. Lovely peaches.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.6/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

An incredible depth of complexity, variance and masterful intrigue comes spewing from this sourish, earthen and spicy ale. Where much of this can be said about the entire Crooked Stave portfolio, what I didn't see coming was the out-of-character scent that struck me heading into this anticipated session.

Its peachy-amber color is golden about its margins but denser of copper in the middle. Expressive carbonation gives the ale a champagne-like appearance even through the ale carries a faint haze. Its part-froth, part fizz head is creamy early, but the tannic sourness reaches up to drag the foam back in rather quickly, and with little evidence of lace to mention.

But those aromas.... not sharp, spicy or pungent; but rather sweet, savory and fruity-lush. Butterscotch, vanilla, candied peaches, pears and apples all sing a sweeter and richer praise than what I'm used to. Mild vinous tartness is softly chardonnay while wood flavors of caramel and maple buffer its acidity.

Then to taste... ok, back to business as usual! Even though the sweeter tones are present, they are now dwarfed by the wood spices, sharp acidity of dry white wines and an overall earthy corkish, cellar-like wood must character. Mostly dry in taste, its the remnant butterscotch and vanilla that keeps the taste from a crisper and sharper focus.

Slightly fuller than expected, the ale quickly sheds its zesty carbonation and allows the slim sweetness and light buttery texture to coat the mouth with richer and more lingering effect than the more poignant and peppery sours allow. Masking its warmth nicely, the ale simply gives a bit more body, making is an intriguing match up with crevice or pickled jalapeno.

Although I am rather charmed by the finesse of sweeter and richer impressions of this ale, I feel that they are a mistake and not what the brewer truly intends. Its richness is simply out of character, but even if it is a refreshing yet inconsistent notion to think about.

Photo of cosmicevan
3.39/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed side by side with blend 2 from a crooked stave mini snifter.

a - brew pours a pale yellow. Identical to the other blend in appearance. Thin fizzy head that was gone instantly.

s - nose is like a werthers candy. Way less sour than blend 1 and more buttery.

t/m - odd sour with a big buttery finish, like movie theater popcorn. Caramel coats my mouth with butteriness

o - overall buttery. Something nice under there, but buttery. Hopefully time will save her would like blend 1. I bet this will come around.

Photo of homebrew311
3.55/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.75

Shared by preismj.. Thanks Matt! Pours a hazy yellowish orange. Not much head to speak of. The nose features dry and lightly tart notes of lemon and zest. The taste starts with light acidity followed by lemon and some fruity notes. The flavor seems to fall off a cliff as it has a dry finish. Something isn't quite working with the mouthfeel for me. There doesn't seem to be enough carbonation and it almost leaves a chalky like feel after a few sips. Overall, I was a bit disappointed by this. It wasn't bad by any means, just not a beer I'd go back to.

Photo of brentk56
3.2/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Appearance: The liquid pours out with a hazy honey color and the modest head fades away quickly; a few spots of lace

Smell: Buttery and oaky with some fruit that might be peach

Taste: Starts funky and slightly tart but the buttery element builds in the middle and overwhelms the oaky fruit through the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with low carbonation

Overall: Clearly a disappointment; something went wrong and this will go down the drain

Thanks, JMBSH, for the opportunity

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.38/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to mrbubber for sharing this one at his tasting.

2013 vintage.

Pours a hazy golden-orange with a foamy bone head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. No lacing on the drink down. Smell is sour with grain, peach, peach juice, peach puree, and acidic aromas. Taste is much the same with sour peach, peach juice, and peach puree flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good beer with fantastic different types of peach characteristics all around.

Serving type: bottle.

Photo of rudzud
3.6/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Received in a trade and poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a nice hazy peach juice hue with a thin quarter inch head that fades immediately to well, nothing.

S - Light light metallic aroma, absurdly faint peaches. More like peach candy than the real deal.

T - Taste is....sigh. Buttery oak laden peach pits and candy. The sourness is quite assertive, but the strong diacetyl comes back HARD in the finish. Very, very frustrating here. Its a fleeting peach flavour that goes nicely with the sour base. The more I drink the more the buttery flavours kind of die back. Gah.

M - Mouthfeel is quite pleasant, light carbonation.

O - Overall this was an incredibly frustrating beer. Persica, the original 750mL, was such a better executed beer and my favourite Crooked Stave beer to date. I'm in shock at how much they screwed that up.

Photo of ArrogantB
3.1/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

375ml bottle courtesy of the person I trusteed for, thanks buddy. I've heard this beer had diacetyl issues and I'm very sensitive to it. I picked up not a trace of butter in the aroma or flavor so that's good. Color was a slightly hazed orange yellow though I kept the yeast out of the pour, no head at all. Aroma was weird to me, I swear I got a touch of mint or menthol, yeast, and no peaches though my girlfriend said it smelled like dried peaches to her. Flavor was mildly tart, the faintest hint of peaches, and pretty mild. Overall very easy to drink but disappointing considering the reputation of the previous iteration. In fact if I were a reserve member is be sort of upset by the quality of these beers. I know Crooked Stave is capable of producing stellar beers but 95% of their stuff let downs.

Photo of Fux
4.55/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle acquired at the same time as blend #2 in order to drink them side by side, but drunk on its own because blend #2 was stolen from my cellar. I'm pretty sure the thief did not really like it, after all sour beers are not so popular in the South of France...
A: Pours a clear golden with an impressive foamy white head which fades away quickly. Golden and copper glints, very clear, really good looking.
S: Smell is impressive on the peach, it's as fruity as a white peach juice, with also a lemony scent and distinctive brett flavors. Powerful and brilliant nose.
T: The taste follows pretty much the nose regarding the fruitiness. The peach is still impressive, but there is also a big sourness not foreseen from the nose. The final is dry and focused on brett with a bit of funk and barnyard flavors. Very elegant.
M: Carbonation is rather low and the body is a bit light. I would have appreciated more bubbles to support the strong flavors.
O: I'm quite unsure why this beautiful beer doesn't get higher ratings. As usual, it's a wonderful one brought to us by Crooked Stave.

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.14/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

blend one beats blend two for me, some say butter, and i do smell it, but its like rich french full cream butter with the water evaporated. hazy honey colored beer with a decent but short lived fizzy white head. the nose is buttery peach, fresh fruits about and the sour mixes right in beautifully. not as robust fruit wise as say the apricot ale from cascade, but its up there. wheat malt serves as a worthy base. apparently blend 1 is st. bretta base, and blend 2 is l'brett d'or. i think the bretta works better for some reason, a little more structure for the fruit to cling to. there is a lot of fruit flavor but not a ton of sweet which i love. finish is dryer and puckery, mouth watering. carbonated with the pedal to the floor, this one really sings on the palate, i would buy this regularly if it was commercially available. thanks as always to drlovemd87 for sharing both blends last night, it was great to have them side by side!

Photo of jordanimal
4.24/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A yellow/orange haze pour with white head that dies down quick. Smell comes through with oak and lemon followed by an earthy bog and sweet peaches. Mouthful is light with a little carbonation. Taste is lightly tart up front, toasted bread and oak to a butter toffee and a big sour peach finish. This one transforms as you drink and releases a mild butter and toffee as the beer warms up, it also becomes more sour too. Overall well balanced and layered beer, creating a great complexity.

Photo of spoony
3.72/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

From a 375 ml bottle (Blend # 1 on the back of the label) into a tulip.

A-A normal pour produces a thin layer of white head that fades immediately to a collar. No lacing. The beer is light, light honey-golden in color with a bit of haze. I can see a stray bubble or two of carbonation.

S-The aroma is quite mild. I detect some peach, a little bit of lactic tartness, and some oak. It is not bad, and the flavors are in good balance, but there is not much happening here.

T-The taste is also pretty mild. The peach is still there, but tartness is a little more pronounced. I get a bit of lactic pull at the back of my palate with each sip. Oak and funk are mild, but present. As the beer warms I notice just a hint of buttery sweetness in my last few sips.

M-The feel is medium to full in body with a nice, assertive carbonation.

O-This beer is pretty tame. Although I have nothing against a restrained approach, this was just a bit too restrained. The little bit of butterscotch on the finish doesn't help things either. On the plus side, no one flavor is overpowering and the level of tartness nicely pairs with the peach flavor. I'm going to compare against Blend 2 tomorrow.

Crooked Stave Persica Blend #1 from Crooked Stave Brewery & Taproom
89 out of 100 based on 132 ratings.