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Vieille Artisanal Saison - Crooked Stave Brewery & Taproom

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Reviews: 125
Hads: 862
Avg: 4.01
pDev: 23.69%
Wants: 27
Gots: 119 | FT: 14
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Crooked Stave Brewery & Taproom visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  4.20% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: ArrogantB on 04-08-2013

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Photo of denver10
2.7/5  rDev -32.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Pours a hazy yellowish white with an orange hue and a slight white head. Aroma is kinda MIA, there is some sweetness from the fruity hops and I get a little tart brett, but really its justs messy and indiscriminate. Flavor is the same way, tastes a bit woody. some sweeter citrus, and a maybe some ripe earthy root type vegetables? A hodgepodge of random stuff that is just messy and fails to come together. Mouthfeel is thin and crisp with some slight activity. Overall, this beer is straight up no good, IMO. I LOVED the initial batch/variation and was disappointed when I heard it was not going to be continually offered. That said, I was excited when I heard the tweaks being done to this variation. Unfortunately, what sounded good on paper did not come out to be anything close to being good in real life. I gave this a few tries before I reviewed this one just to make sure it was a consistent problem and not simply one bad bottle, but so far all attempts have fared the same. Of all the Crooked Stave beers to buy a handful of right out of the gate, I wish it hadn't beenthis one. If these beers were cheaper, I honestly would have drain poured some of this.

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Photo of mactrail
2.8/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Extremely pale amber-tinted brew. Nice foam in the Gordon's thistle glass with a surplus of frothy carbonation.

Very light flavors and quite tart/sour. The malt has vanished and left a vinegary shadow. Lots of bitterish pepper that seems to increase with sipping. I wish there was a category for non-traditional sours, or else put this into the American Wild ale lineup. How do you compare this with such sensuous brews as Firestone Walker "Opal" and a hundred other fruity and zesty Saisons?

This is too much like a Belinerweiss to be reviewed adequately as a Saison. I also object to the price of this stuff. But if you're into trying sours, this is very approachable. From the 375 ml bottle purchased at Grapevine Liquors. Batch 10/2014.

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Photo of ArrogantB
2.92/5  rDev -27.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

This is apparently a different malt bill than the previous Saison Vielle Artisanal and dry hopped with citra hops. The label is different and I was confused at first as to whether it was really a new beer but I'm adding it. Golden hazy orange color, soapy head. I don't like the smell at all, onion and burned rubber, not good at all. Flavor was ok, grains, yeast, meh. Darn, I was hoping the citra dry hopping would make this something special like Tank 7 or something but I was bored. I also did not pick up on the barrel/foeder aspect at all.

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Photo of alaimoa
3.07/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Picked this up in New York.
Poured hazy light gold/yellow with descent white head 1-2 inch with a bit of white lace but nothing special.
Smell and taste lack complexity. You get a bit of citrus that leans on the sour/tart side like a grapefruit and a hint of funk but lacks depth.
Mouthfeel has medium/high rolling bubble carbonation but a thin dryness
Overall I hate to say I'm not overly impressed given lack of depth and slight watery taste

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Photo of LeeryLeprechaun
3.25/5  rDev -19%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Straw yellow to orange in color. A little hazy and a sticky buy small head that is white.

Aroma is of straw and barnyard, a little goat, a hint of acidity

The taste is very subtle. A little bit funky in the finish with some acidity. A little taste of wheat.

Mouthfeel is light but with some silkiness.

Overall the beer is okay. There are hints of acidity, a lot of funk, but the beer is nothing special. It is not very crisp or refreashing and gets too funky as it warms.

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Photo of Dope
3.28/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours a very cloudy light orange. Looks like a witbier. Big fluffy white head. Head fizzes out at a moderate pace, leaving pretty substantial lacing behind. Decent retention.

S: Some tart citrus, grass and light grains.

T: Very tart and funky citrus. Like lemon rind with a side of bile. Some mild graininess in the finish. Dry lingering tartness in between sips. Strong flavors for the ABV.

M: Medium bodied and quite smooth.

O: Certainly a crisp, funky and sour saison. Not really my style, unfortunately. It's not bad at all, my taste buds just aren't feeling this one today.

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Photo of scootny
3.55/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A lovely amber golden cloud. Decent head with a nice lacing. Funky dryness in the nose with notes of pale malt. Taste is more of the same with lots of oak and funk. Feel is crisp and effervescent. Drinkability is determined by you love of sours ales as this one has saison character but really has its feet in the sour camp. Nice beer

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Photo of Lisa_B
3.67/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Sampling this prior to the Surette based on reviews here, although I purchased both... Poured into a stemless wine glass to warm it a bit and try to push out the flavors.

A - plus side: nicely cloudy, tawny golden color, initially poured with a decent head
negatives: head disappeared quickly, very little lacing

S - light and citrusy with cedar, funkiness only on a deep inhale, not much complexity

T - matches the nose almost to a tee - but there is a really nice lingering lightness that comes from the (probably) low sugar content paired with the dry hopping.

M - crisp and easy, a bit too watery for me for a regular drinking beer.

O - It makes me think of a Gewurtztraminer. It would be a nice picnic beer for a summer day. It's certainly not bad, just a bit light and flat in character for me.

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Photo of jrenihan
3.69/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2013, Batch 5.

Beer is a clear straw-golden colour, with a small to moderately sized white head. Head fades fairly quickly,

Nice nose dominate by Brett. A bit funky with a barnyardy scent, fruity with lemon and a bit of cherry. A bit of spice, but primarily just Brett.

Brett is also very strong in the flavour, and quite sour. Funk is fairly pronounced, and although I am typically a funk fan, it is not entirely pleasant in this beer. Tastes a little "off". Lemon is strong, and the oak is noticeable, but not overwhelmingly. A bit of a malty flavour. Pretty thin other than the yeast.

Light bodied, moderately carbonated. Refreshing.

Overall, some nice things going on, but the flavour just isn't working for me overall. I like it, but can't say much more.

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Photo of LambicPentameter
3.7/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Enjoyed out of a brown 375 mL bottle with a date/batch number on the back label: 2013/Batch 7. Poured into a Boulevard Smokestack Series tulip glass.

Appearance - Pours a brassy golden amber color with just a bit of haze and some variance in the hue, with a darker, more matte area as well as spun gold sheen on the edge of the glass where the light refracts. A one-finger off-white head of sudsy, thin foam sits atop the body and remains for a couple minutes before fading to a wispy film across the top of the liquid. Lacing is sparse and spotty.

Smell - Pretty unassuming smell, with light characteristics of pale malt, slightly spicy yeast and fruity esters along with barnyard funk and wet hay and some fainter woody characteristics and that twang of Brett.

Taste - Pretty similar to the smell, some funk and wet grass as well as slight lemon zest and oaky characteristics are present alongside that distinct Brett funkiness. Almost a yogurt-like presence from the yeast that hints at lactobacillus, but not even close to as sour.

Mouthfeel - As seems typical with beers of this level of ABV, the body simply isn't satisfying as it's too light and watery. Carbonation is moderate and the finish is dry with just a tiny bit of tartness on the finish.

Overall, a decent saison, but I can't help if my enjoyment of it was negatively impacted by the fact that I enjoyed Surette so much more. That said, this would be a pretty tasty session saison, or as they were once known: saison.

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Photo of Knapp85
3.7/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This poured out as a hazy yellow color with a soapy white head on top. The lacing was decent with a thin film-like retention on top. The smell of the beer has plenty of fresh oak aromas and tart lemon on the nose. It's also pretty funky. The taste of the beer is decent but a little one dimensional in my opinion. There isn't much depth to this, it's a very clean tasting beer though. The mouthfeel is a bit on the watery side but has a decent carbonation. Overall it's a decent beer but nothing I'd seek out in the future.

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Photo of SierraFlight
3.7/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 4.5

Bottle poured into tulip. Hazy orange-yellow with soapy white head that leaves streaks of lacing. Aroma brings brett funk, green oak, tart citrus and grapes, and light malt. Flavors are tart citrus, barnyard funk, oaky bitterness, and earthy throughout. Medium body, thin texture, moderate-high carbonation, and a dry finish.

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Photo of beergoot
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pertinent label data: 2014 BATCH 13

Cloudy, straw yellow body; brisk carbonation; white, one-finger thick head. Sour lemon aroma; allspice; orange rind. Tart and bitter flavor with notes of grapefruit and citrus fruits. Light to medium body; juicy and mouth-puckering.

An intensely tart and sour beer that would. seem better suited in the sour beer category.

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Photo of CHickman
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

2013/Batch 6 (4.2% ABV): Pours very cloudy gold color with chunks floating in it and a big foamy 2 finger white head that was full of bubbles and faded slowly, leaving good foamy lacing.

Smells of wet cardboard, orange peel, funky yeast, coriander, fruit and farm animals. It really smelt like being at a farm with that muddy animal aroma that was like a very sweaty worker who hadn’t showered in a few days and wore the same shirt.

Thankfully it tasted better than it smelled, with citrus fruit, peppery spices, tart cranberry, biscuit, dry orange peel, lemon zest, very funky yeast, sour apple, bitter red grapefruit, very sour white grapes and aspirin-like medicinal notes. The aftertaste has some oaky notes and more bitterness and sour funk, but the flavor got better and more complex as it warmed.

Mouthfeel left a pucker as it was like sucking on a lemon and then licking wet cardboard, but that’s to be expected from this kind of beer. It was a very light beer, almost watery with mild carbonation, and considering the high bitterness and sourness it went down easier than it should have. Overall it was good and I’d try it again, but it wouldn’t be a “go to” beer for me.

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Photo of brentk56
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a very hazy honey color with a wispy head that leaves a nice pattern of lacing

Smell: More vinegary than Surette, with fruit elements dominant - peaches, in particular

Taste: Peach yoghurt, with the lactobacillus creating quite a bit of sourness through the mid-palate; a touch of funk and oak in the finish

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body with moderate carbonation; very puckery

Overall: Tasting side by side with Surette, I am afraid this one pales in comparison, though it has a dynamic sourness that may be preferred by others

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Photo of JoEBoBpr
3.76/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip glass from a 375ml bottle.
Vintage: 2013
Batch # 4

Pours a very nice slightly hazy golden color with some slight light copper hues. There is a nice 1 inch white head that forms. Pretty dense and sticky bubbles are present.

Aroma of funky oaky notes. Dry tart white Chardonnay grapes. Earthy and musty wood notes dominate the aroma along with the mild dry tartness.

The taste follows the nose pretty well. Notes of tart white grape skin. Some nice earthy grain notes with woody and musty funkyness in the taste. Notes of hay and some slight granny smith apple notes. Mouthfeel is light and quite dry.

Pretty nice Saison. Dry and slightly tart with some good earthy grain and woody notes.

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Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.78/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to angrybabboon for sharing the bottle.

Appearance: Hazy hay gold. Head is loose bright-white and bubbly. Drops to a small cap with minimal lacing.

Smell: Funk and a slight citric tartbedge right up front. Some grass and damp basement coupled with hay. Lemon zest, some pear and apple skin. Lemon juice. Barnyard and a touch lactic. A touch of pale malt. Slightly sweet. A touch of melon and some mealy fruit. A bit of leafy hop with a touch of citrus.

Taste: Super clean and pale malts. Lightly sweet. Some mild bready notes. Very light citric sour edge. Some grass and hay with some damp elements. A touch of bretty funk with some sweat. Super light and pale. Hints of lemon zest and juice. Mildly citric with a very soft powdery yeast. So very mild and mellow.

Mouthfeel: Light body with a mild carbonation. Drinks close to water. Smooth and easy.

Overall: Is this beer or spring in a bottle.

So easy and light. Must drink all summer.

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Photo of h8r
3.81/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours cloudy pale gold. Some chunks of yeast floating. Very light head, no lacing. Tart, vinegar smell. Taste follows nose: sour, dry, grassy. On the tart side for a saison. Can't taste the oak. Low ABV makes it very drinkable, but perhaps too acidic? Could treat this as a berliner weisse and drink it mit schuss maybe...

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.82/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

375 mL bottle poured into a chalice.

Appearance - A little bit hazy, pale orange body with a nice white head. Some lacing. The surface foam lasts forever.

Smell - A bit musty. Definite brett component giving it an earthy tone along with some bright lemony acidic aromas. Citrus hops behind it.

Taste - Grainy malt up front that slides into a more tart bretty flavor. Lemony tang and a hop presence that fades. The finish is bitter and has a mild earthy flavor.

Mouthfeel - Very light, almost watery in the very end. Medium carbonation.

Overall - Pretty good, especially for such a sessionable ABV. There are other options that are as good but significantly cheaper. At least cheaper than what I paid.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.82/5  rDev -4.7%

Bottle purchased at Nathaniel Square Corner Store.

Pours a murky dark-ish orange, with no head or lacing.

Smells strongly of tart lemon and lime, with a bit of oak, and lots of barynard Brett funk.

The taste is similar. The strongest flavors are of tart lemon and lime, with the funkiness there, but not overpowering. Only a touch of spicing, which is nice, along with a little oak, and some lactic acid that lingers slightly on the tongue.

This one has a fairly light body, with a crisp and refreshing mouthfeel. There's a moderate amount of carbonation.

A fairly solid, if slightly un-exciting, funky saison.

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Photo of scottfrie
3.82/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

375ml bottle into Portsmouth snifter. 2013/batch 4.

A: pours a cloudy grapefruit color with a thick, soft looking, bright white head. Head faded into a fuzzy collar and film that left streaks of wispy lace down the glass.
S: Drying yeast and sweet scents of golden fruits. I get notes of dry oak barrel, straw, must, earth, golden delicious apples, apricots, horse poo, slight green apple, and dank damp basement. Very musty, dry, and delicious smelling.
T: Light lacto tartness is something I wasn’t expecting but I am excited it’s there. Flavors consist of dry oak barrel, earth, lemon zest, mineral water, wheat, green apple skins, salt and straw. The finish is drying and full of vinous oak and mild spices. The aftertaste reminds me of a grassland prarie and a has a touch of green hops.
M: Could be a little fuller but for the most part this is perfectly drinakable. Carbonation is frothy but soft, and the mouthfeel is slightly watery but it still has a good chew to it. Medium-light body beneath the carb.
O: Great flavors but not as good as I was expecting. I wish it was just a tiny bit fuller. A very good low alcohol beer though.

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Photo of KajII
3.82/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

[Suggested Glassware: Tulip Glass]

The pour was a hazy golden blonde yellow with an average white fizzy head that diminished at a steady pace, down to a thin film with fair runny lacing.

The aroma was of a light grain malt, floral and herbal hops and a funky/musty Belgian yeast with notes citrus (lemon and orange), peach, a hint of oak and a mild tartness.

The taste was lightly sweet with a decent citrus presence which was apparent throughout, with the finish becoming a tad hoppy and fruity with a hint of spice and a mild woody taste towards the end. The flavor lasted a nice long while after the swallow, with a nice and lightly bitter yet fruity taste left to linger on the taste buds.

Mouthfeel was well past light in body yet not quite near medium with a mildly dry texture and a strong medium carbonation.

Overall this was a very nice Saison with a good mix of fruit, hops and just a hint of spice right at the end, making this a very enjoyable dinking experience...


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Photo of angrybabboon
3.84/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split with Goblinmunkey7

Consumed 5/20/14

Appearance: Somewhat clear but mostly hazy solid gold - honey with a touch of orange - pours with a small white head - fades to a few wisps, leaves some nice spots of lacing

Smell: Funky in a distinctly Crooked Stave way - yeasty funk with some fruity esters, other fruits, and some serious Brett - apple, pear, and some lemon - some pale malts, light bread, and some wood

Taste: Light and refreshing, while still being very flavorful - nice level of funk with some fruity notes - some hints of apples and pears - some citrus, a touch of orange and some hints of lemon - pale malts, pale grains, light bread, maybe some crackers - some funky Brett and some wood - finishes dry

Mouthfeel: On the light side of medium, nicely carbonated, smooth, dry finish

Overall: Another solid saison from Crooked Stave? Not surprising

I'm not surprised this is tasty. The sour notes, Brett funk, and light fruit notes are quite good. It's light and refreshing, and it's more of an entry level than some other Crooked Stave offerings.

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Photo of gatornation
3.85/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

2014 Batch 14 pours a hazed lemon yellow color with a small white head, smellsof lemon and citrus rind with wet hay, taste follows the nose touch of white grape with some light hops oak and dankness on the finish , tart mouthfeel with low/medium carb,a dry finish, low ABV and a drinkable Saison , tart,slight hops slight sour/funk

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Photo of imscotty
3.85/5  rDev -4%

A: Pours a slightly cloudy pale yellow with a frothy white head. The head and what little lacing there was faded quickly.

S: Strong citrus, lemon, sour aromas.

T: Slightly sour with strong lemon citrus flavors. There is a cidery apple flavory too that is not disagreeable. There is a very slight bit of spicy pepperiness to the finish. As I got to the bottom of the bottle it actually got cloudier and tastier I think. I should have poured the whole bottle at once.

M: Very light bodied and fairly well carbonated.

O: This would be a good thirst quenching beer for a hot summer's day. Lacks a bit in the complexity department to rate higher and perhaps justify the price. Still, a quality sour.

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Vieille Artisanal Saison from Crooked Stave Brewery & Taproom
89 out of 100 based on 125 ratings.