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Hop Savant - Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project

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Reviews: 100
Hads: 608
Avg: 4.11
pDev: 24.33%
Wants: 46
Gots: 52 | FT: 5
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Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project
Colorado, United States | website

Style | ABV
American Pale Ale (APA) | 6.70% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Mebuzzard on 05-14-2013

This brew is made of a blend of different hops (36% Citra, 36% Mosaic, and 28% Simcoe). To keep things interesting, each batch is dry hopped using different experimental hops varietals. The bottles are marked on the back to show which strain was used for that specific batch.
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Photo of ACarp
3/5  rDev -27%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Batch 3, 2013 Simcoe and Centennial Hops
Bitter and sour do not belong together.
Looks: pale, not much head, dies quickly. bottle frothed over when opened
smell: deliciously fruity, from both yeast and hops. additional hop dankness. Slight medicinal funk
taste: Bitter and sour and medicinal. couldn't finish bottle.
Overall: I love Crooked Stave and will definitely buy them again, Surette and St Bretta are both amazing beers but i didnt enjoy this one and dont feel it was worth $10

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Photo of chugalug06
3.11/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Fluffy cloudy white head on top of foggy light yellow brew. Missing lacing

Barnyard funk!!!! Lots of Brett. Mainly Brett. Sewer gas comes to mind. Overwhelming Brett.

Dry, earthy, biting, slightly greasy, heavy carbonation, piney, funky, lots of horsey barn flavors. Light, crisp, thin, mild tartness, no vinegar, easy drinker for a hot day, missing a lot of durable flavors.

Intriguing brew for sure, not my favorite. But, drinks nicely for the amount of funk, this brew could have been named George Clinton. @ $7.50/375ml tread lightly to try, but not to over indulge. A bit all over the board, slight mess?

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Photo of SitkaSteve
3.15/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Treated as an APA, this was poured into a nonic pint glass.
The appearance was a light hazy amber color with about a finger's worth of white head that dissipates at a nice pace. Lacing was foamy and sticky sliding into the beer.
The smell starts off with a funky amount of sour-ness. Earthy and somewhat bright citrus rind shows a pungent
The taste takes the prior flavors to combine and become sweet yet sour and brings in a light tanginess.
The mouthfeel was about a light to medium on the body with a decent sessionability about it. Carbonation feels for an APA.
Overall, well, I didn't mind it for me, but not really an APA. Its too sour to be one. I'm wondering if this should be reconsidered as a wild ale.

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.16/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

375ml bottle $6.49. For a pale ale...ok. Bright orange-yellow color, sort of hazy, very good head. Aroma is overwhelming brett, slight bit of plastic, more brett, and then brett. Flavor was mostly brett, hints of lemon, slight bit of fruity hops, meh. I'm sorry but I think I'm done with Crooked Stave. The WWBI was a winner and I've had a couple good beers but most have been letdowns and considering the price tag I just can't support what they are doing. I think they've got very cool ideas but the beers are overpriced and not usually well executed. I know CS is the hype brewery of the moment but I'm going to come right out and say they are overrated based on what they are selling on shelves.

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Photo of BarrytheBear
3.24/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle thanks to Jeff....thanks man!

Not enough of ever saison or hops....a really confused beer that works in theory but doesn't quite pull off the execution. To quote my favorite doctor, "Too crazy for Boy's Town, too much of a boy for CrazyTown."

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Photo of KFBR392
3.29/5  rDev -20%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

2013 Batch 2

Appearance: pours bright golden yellow with dense clean white head of about two fingers. Very clean transparent look to the body with on par active carbonation.

Smell: big waves of juicy grapefruit and a whole lot of Brett jump out of the glass. Grass, straw, and farmhouse funk are strong on the body. Bright tropical fruits cut through surprisingly well throughout. Some oak which accentuates the Brett but doesn't really stand out on its own. Lemon pepper and spice seem to linger in the nostrils.

Taste: surprisingly mild front of citrus and pine with accompanying Brett and oak funk. The body takes on a primarily lemon and lime driven mission with clean carbonation keeping the flavors relatively bright. Light dough and grain contributed by the malts pops up on the back end. Funk lingers throughout and sits on the palate long after drinking.

Mouthfeel: bright carbonation fits. Funk and oak aren't overpowering on the palate, but also don't provide an overly memorable experience either.

Overall: quite disappointed after the aroma honestly. Base beer was less then inspired and the Brett can't do all the work. Some interesting lemon and funk but overall pretty one dimensional.

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Photo of hooliganlife
3.36/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

batch 2, 2013

poured a bit of a crisp golden to straw yellow. tons of head, very lively.

tart, fresh, floral and citrus hops. some light oak. faint plastic

that plastic was very apparent in the flavor. a mix of medicinal and burnt plastic. the oak tasted fake, the hops and brett were just over powered.

light and easy for a 6% abv, drank like a 4%. crisp and clean.

overall, this did not work for me at all. maybe i will try a newer batch but this was too much.

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Photo of baakabak
3.36/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch 2 : centennial and simcoe

Pours a hazy straw with a pillowy white head.

Scent is white grapes,lemon,hay,vinegar,stone and inflatable pool toy.

Taste is the same as the scent. Big vinegar and hay. Vinyl. Not much hop nuance but quite bitter.

Medium-high carbonation. Full mouthfeel.

Overall it's interesting but I wouldn't seek it out again.

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Photo of notchucknorris
3.56/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Hazy apricot color with a healthy tan foam head. Really good retention.

S: Light musty aroma with some Brett, tangerine, white grape and lemon. A touch of dry white wine as well.

T: Opens nice with some light wood and funk. Then I get a strange band aid flavor. Something tells me that's not supposed to be there. That sticks around for a bit, then I get some Brett, lemon and a pleasant drying finish. Nice citrus hop backbone. I would love this were it not for that off flavor. Gonna have to revisit this one.

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Photo of dowen17
3.58/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a hazy lemon yellow. One finger head with great lacing and retention.

Smells like someone shoved a grapefruit in their ass and shit it back out. Dirty, dirty, dirty.

Taste is heavy citrus. Lemon rind and grapefruit. Dirty yeast. Sour finish. Refreshing.

Good carbonation. Medium bodied.

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Photo of Pintofbrown
3.6/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Poured into a snifter. 2013/Batch 2 bottle

Foam creeps slowly up and out of the bottle after being opened. The gusher - like quality is evident by the easy 3 - finger's of thick foam on a slow pour. Slowly recedes and leaves behind solid curtains of lace. Hazy golden copper body.

Scents of damp oak, musty earthiness, lemon/vinegar tanginess, buried star fruit and grapefruit. Complex and bold nose with a nice mustiness and tang.

The mustiness on the palate is strong and buries most fruity and tropical notes. On the finish, it has built to a rubber - like, plastic flavor. Which is too bad, because there are notes of tart cherries, oak, tropical fruits.

Tannic dryness in Hop Savant. A bitterness that is very subtle. Great medium body and nice smoothness.

Hop Savant had some great savory aromas, but the beer falls short on the palate. A strange rubber and plastic flavor builds, burying flavors that were appreciated on the nose.

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Photo of ThickNStout
3.62/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

375mL bottle from LambicPentameter (thanks man!). 2013/ Batch 2. Served in a goblet.

Pours an opaque golden straw with four fingers of frothy pale head. The bubbles slowly recede to a cap that leaves large sheets of lace.

Smells funky. Horse blanket, sweaty barn, hay and mild citrus.

The nose wasn't lying. Hay, tart grass, sweat, dirt, lemon, peach fuzz and a hint of salt.

Light body that is highly carbonation. Finishes dry, tart and funky with citrus peel, earth and souring hay.

This is a brett bomb for sure but not offensive. I wouldn't mind trying a fresh one sometime to see if any of the hops mentioned in the name were ever apparent in the flavor.

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Photo of brianmandell
3.67/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

375ml bottle - 2013 / Batch 2

Cloudy, pale straw with a generous foamy head. Fresh hoppy pine and citrus aromas with a bit of pale malt. Bright lemony flavors with a tart/sour midpalate and a long-lingering grapefruit hop bitterness on the finish. I am also getting a bit of a bitter plastic off-flavor that develops after a few sips and also lingers on the tongue. Is it styrene? It becomes more unpleasant as times goes on. Mouthfeel is thin with fizzy carbonation - it works. I love what Crooked Stave is doing but something isn't right in this bottle. Unlike the Hop Savant, the Batch 60 I recently tasted at the brewery was outstanding.

Retasted at Top Hops: I am upping my rating because there were no off flavors like before. The Brett was very funky, cheesy and fruity. The hop flavor is rather unique but this is a more challenging beer than Surette or Veille which don't have the same level of funkiness. I've experienced some variability with Crooked Stave beers but I still like them for making great beers.

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Photo of GuitarIPA
3.7/5  rDev -10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

L - orange hue with h(hhhh)uge foamy white heade - similar to a meringue, hangs out for awhile
A- Brett, yeast, funky, vinegar, pear/fruit
T - very funky, slightly sour, fruity - a little medicinal
F - dry, rolls off of middle if tongue, light flavor relative to aroma
O - not sure how I feel about the funk, but an interesting beer as always from Crooked Stave

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Photo of BMMillsy
3.71/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottle from Tipples poured into a tulip glass. 2013, Batch 2 enjoyed on Dec 3, 2013. Pours a clear deep golden color with a big fluffy head on top. Aroma of Brett, spice, citrus, hay, sour apple, soap, grass. Flavor is orange peel, soapy bretty yeast, tart, hint of spice, lingering soapiness on the palate. Light bodied with very high carbonation. Easy to drink but not super enthused about this one. Was expecting a Brett IPA, but this is pretty much straight Brett Saison. Not bad.

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Photo of iabeerbaron
3.75/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5


STYLE: Sour/Wild Ale

ABV: 6.7%


POUR: Murky Orange with a huge white head.

AROMA: A lot of lemon with some funk.

TASTE: Citrus, brett, funk.

Ratebeer.com rating: 99

Beeradvocate raing: 91

Overall: B+

My recommendation: It you are into farmhouse/saison/wild ales you want to try this brew. Very good stuff from Crooked Stave!

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Photo of cosmicevan
3.76/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

bottle picked up locally enjoyed from my crooked stave snifter. brew poured a murky honey orange with a thin fizzy head. smell is dominated with fresh flowers. lots of Brett and lots of oak. taste slaps you in the face with funkiness. the Brett and the ok complement each other nicely but the pale ale beneath its an odd mix. it will be interesting to see what happens to this one over time. soft carbonation and relatively easy drinker aside from the plasticy Brett. definitely on interesting mix and combination for a beer. but its history tells us anything it's that crooked stave knows what they're doing. it really is a nice beer once your palate gets adjusted to the crazy flavor combo.

edit...had the galaxy version of this one (not sure why no unique listing) but damn, that one is AMAZING

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.79/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

375 mL bottle poured into a chalice. 462 is written on the bottle. Batch or bottle number, I'm not sure.

Appearance - Bright orange. Hazy. Nice white head, maybe 2 fingers. Lopsided chunky collar and some nice surface wisps. A bit of lacing clings to the glass.

Smell - I could smelled the brett as soon as I poured it. Slightly earthy and the smallest amount of acid coming through. Tropical fruit hops push through in the background and combine with a bit of doughy malt sweetness.

Taste - The brett is much more dominant here. Much more of a tangy flavor that builds throughout the sip. Citrus hop up front with a bit of that grainy, earthy brett flavor. It turns more tangy until it overwhelms the malt and finishes with a lingering slight sourness.

Mouthfeel - Pretty dry. Medium carbonation. The only flavor that lasts on the palate is the tang from the brett.

Overall - I bet this would have been a phenomenal pale ale without the brett. I think the brett just manages to mask the hop and malt profile. Regardless, it's still pretty nice.

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Photo of PHBoiler
3.79/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

This batch is centennial and simcoe. I don't get any distinct notes from either hop. I get some lemon rind bitterness and light tartness. This beer is a Brett bomb. Huge carb and loads of funk like an open field. It's not as refined as something like Lost Abbey Saint's Devotion but similar in style. It is different and interesting, but the flavors almost cancel each other out.

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Photo of homebrew311
3.85/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Poured into snifter. Appearance is orange with mild haze and thin head. Lacing is thick and plentiful. Nose features heavy dose of brett paired with lemony and citrus forward hops. Notes of sourdough bread, lemon zest, black pepper, and an underlying funk make up the aromatics. Taste is tart and acidic up front with notes of fruity hops. The citra/mosaic/simcoe profile seems to shine less of its bright juicy notes and more of its citrus and acidic features. The hops provide a sneaky bitterness that intertwines with a dry and bretty finish. Mouthfeel is light and refreshing with spritzy carbonation. Overall, I find it difficult to classify this as an APA since the yeast/bacteria profile seems to step on the traditional APA characteristics. There is definitely a fair amount of hop presence which makes this brew come off like a hoppy saison. This is a nice hot day sipper with a nice amount of complexity.

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Photo of antott0523
3.86/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Hop Savant Amarillo

A: This beer is stupendously attractive, pouring a hazy straw to golden amber color. The bone white head is frothy, settles to a finger and clings to sides of my goblet. No visible carbonation.

S: The floral, spicy, and citrus hop notes reveal themselves from behind a mask of earthy notes including bay leaves, lemongrass, white pepper, and a touch of sweeter talcum powder.

T: Spicy and herbal bitterness with notes of citrusy hops, a faint hint of tropical fruit, but ultimately dominated by lemongrass, cumin, fennel, lemon rind, with a dry finish of grass and biscuits.

M: Moderately carbonated and a bit thin. 3.75

O: Wide array of interesting flavors here. The Amarillo dry hopping seems to play a significant role in the aroma of this beer. The flavor is nice, and despite everything going on there seems to be a definite bready and hoppy pale ale shining through the earthy and spicy flavors. I probably wouldn't buy this again, but this is the type of beer that challenges your palate and makes you appreciate the subtle yet complex elements that can be crafted into a beer.

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Photo of scottfrie
3.92/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

375ml bottle into Portsmouth snifter. 2013/batch 2 (centennial and simcoe).

A: Pours a lemony amber with a huge, dense, and pillowy bright white head that took forever and a day to collapse into a thick film with a dense butte in the center. Sheets of patchy, sticky lace were left down the glass.
S: huge notes of brett, grapefruit, apricot, and crackery malt come through on the nose. Brett dominates followed by citrus and leafy hops. There is a mineral quality as well. Centennial easy to pick out.
T: More citrus and less brett than the nose. Grapefruit still dominates the hops, as it did in the nose, and I get flavors of apricot and slight simcoe hop. The finish is drying with notes of brett and earthy yeast. The aftertaste is minerally and lightly bitter with flavors of lime.
M: Crips and refreshing mouthfeel, light and fluffy carbonation that froths up in my mouth, and a drying and clean medium body.
O: The nose initially reminded me a lot of a lighter Bitter Monk, but the flavor profile is completely different. A well-rounded and interested pale ale, would love to see this kicked up a notch into an dipa.

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Photo of wspscott
3.94/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

375ml bottle in Sam Adams glass
date: 2013/batch 2

A: a pretty beer, crystal clear, golden color, almost perfect white head, great lacing
S: Earth and citrus, a little tartness, no obvious hops
T: A wave of tartness in front followed by the classic brett funk/dirt. The hops are well hidden, there is some citrus notes (I assume from the hops, but it could be acid from the yeast).
M: Very crisp and dry, although not bone dry like some brett beers, lots of carbonation
O: Not what I was expecting, this comes across much more as a "standard" brett beer vs a 100% brett beer. The funk is much more apparent than I expected and the acidity is pretty high. I wonder if this is the brett showing its age (getting more funky) and the hops have faded. Still, this is a very good beer and very unique. I would buy this again with out hesitation, would like to find a fresher bottle to compare. Highly recommended.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.94/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to jmgrub for sharing this one at drewone's tasting.

Batch 344.

Pours a murky golden orange with a foamy off-white head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, funk, and Brett aromas. Taste is much the same with slightly sour fruit, funk, and Brett flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of wood bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with a pretty intense but well done Brett presence in the aroma and flavor.

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Photo of Sarlacc83
3.95/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

375mL courtesy of berebrando. Thanks!

A: Solid gold in color with a 1/4" head that’s well-retained. Bubbles rush up through the body.

N: Oak blasts to the nose with some lemon zest, funk, cheese, and glue. Very clean. Biscuit and grapefruit.

T: Bitter, sour, and funky. Very little sweetness. Hops dominate here. Very clean. Oak is pronounced, but there’s some of the stomach acid here.

M: Light yet solid. Well-carbonated.

O: Plenty of flavors dancing around this one. Seems to be more wild than hoppy pale, but I can dig it. Would have this again on a regular basis.

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Hop Savant from Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project
91 out of 100 based on 100 ratings.