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Hopinator - Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel

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82
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36 Ratings
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Ratings: 36
Reviews: 26
rAvg: 3.57
pDev: 8.4%
Wants: 0
Gots: 1 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel visit their website
Australia

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: koolk on 08-10-2008)
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Photo of admiral
3.75/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

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3.5/5  rDev -2%

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3.76/5  rDev +5.3%

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3.25/5  rDev -9%

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3.5/5  rDev -2%

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3.75/5  rDev +5%

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3.25/5  rDev -9%

Photo of SmashPants
3.99/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle: good quality 330mL brown bottle with stylish quality label. Nice.

Appearance: poured deep copper-brown in colour, with plenty of fine carbonation visible. An off-white head bursts up before settling to a semi-creamy one-finger head. Looks good!

Aroma: a touch sweeter than I expected from a double-hopped IPA. There are certainly some heavy pine hop aromas, but they are almost dominated by sweet caramel and toffee. Not unpleasant, just a tad awkward.

Taste: again the hops are present, but are in this case equalled by the malts. Where the malts were slightly overpowering on the nose, however, the hop and malts flavours integrate nicely on the palate. Sticky malt flavours with spicy pine hops; the only thing missing for me is the AIPA hop bite, which is a bit lacking in the Hopinator.

Aftertaste: the hop bitterness is again slightly dominated by the malts, but is still complex and sits nicely in the mouth. Lingers nicely also.

Mouth feel: medium in body, I think that a bit more carbonation would really bring those hop flavours through a little bit stronger, which would really rounded out the flavour profile.

Overall: a lovely American Double IPA with a well-rounded palate of hop and malt. The only 2 things that stop me giving it 9.5 or 10 out of 10 are the slightly lacking carbonation, and the truly prohibitive price tag of AU$110 per case of 12 x 500mL (2013).

Photo of biboergosum
3.58/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle, a Liquor Depot import special, currently only available at their new Wine and Beyond superstore.

This beer pours a hazy medium apricot amber hue, with two fingers of dense, somewhat creamy off-white head, which settles at due pace, leaving some broad, sparse splattered lace patterns around the glass.

It smells of bitter pine needles, a bit of resinous, sappy, sugary caramel malt, a subtle mustiness, and a softly soused orchard fruitiness. The taste is bready caramel malt, a more tamed earthy, leafy pine bitterness, tangy orange and grapefruit fruitiness, and a bit of dank dustiness. Very little in the way of alcohol warming.

The carbonation is level, and just generally supportive, the body a solid medium weight, and fairly smooth, as the usual hop interlopers are present, but mostly inert. It finishes off-dry, and quite muddled, the bitterness of the lingering hops barely standing apart from the flat bready malt.

A so-so DIPA, lots going on, and lots of it right, but there's an overall restraint to things, one that I find underwhelming in something with such a heady moniker. Worth a try, but maybe not at the existent dear exclusive/import/stingy allocation price.

Photo of bostonryan
3.5/5  rDev -2%

Photo of heygeebee
4.08/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

No date on bottle. From Beer Cartel.

Pours an amber mid-brown clear body. 100% clear. Aggresive pour yields half finger head, dies quickly. Spotty lace.

Intense aromas of resiny pine, hops, grapefruit.

Taste is grapefruit dominated. Significant dry hop bitterness. Malt comes through as it warms with toffee.

Mouthfeel is too lightly carbonated. Poor, almost watery.

This is an average beer in a crowded market. The smell suggests quite fresh, but the rest of the package is a let-down. As it warms it does alter, but still too watery overall.

EDIT 2014

Have just sampled the re-badged 500ml bottle version and a significant improvement. Worth a rescore

OLD 3/4/3/2/3

Photo of mungus
4/5  rDev +12%

Photo of dansmcd
3.3/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - One finger of creamy head crowns a red orange body, excellent sloppy lacing decorates the glass.

S - Wow, that's not what I expected. Very different. Some woody hops, but overshadowed by red lady apples, soft cheese and ricotta. Both soft and sharp aromas. Weird.

T - Again, this is unusual. There's plenty of fruity hops, but not citrus. Strawberry and red apple. I'm not a fan of the cheese flavour though.

M - Low carbonation, light to medium body, solid bitterness.

O - Nice to see a change up from the typical IPA profile and good on Holgate for throwing in something different, but it's certainly not an improvement on citrusy, tropical, piney IPAs if you ask me.

Photo of tbeckett
3.28/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottle from Purvis in Melbourne.

A - Bright. Light brown with a film of head and mild carbonation. No lace and no retention.

S - Some pretty rich malt with lot's of caramel. Strong citrus hop with boozy fruits. Really nice.

T - Straight hops and caramel, boozy pineapple maybe as well.

M - Good carbonation, meduim body and a decent bitterness.

O/D - Not alot of depth of flavour. Not a bad DIPA, but lacking a bit. Boozier than I would expect for 7%.

Photo of dmorgan310
4/5  rDev +12%

Photo of jjkatter
2.85/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

330 ml bottle poured into a goblet...

A- brown/amber with 0 head and just a trace of carbonation

S- floral with plenty of hops and wheat with toasted barley.

T- they don't call it Hopinator for nothing... it is plenty hoppy with flavors of unsweetened tea and toasted/smokey barley.

MF- unfavorably flat. Could do with more effervescence. The bitterness is well balanced with smokey barley.

O- I don't know if the beer I got had a leak was flat for that reason, or if that is what this beer is typically like. It is plenty hoppy, but still drinkable.

Photo of laituegonflable
3.1/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a rich earthy red, the colour of scorched earth. Head is nice when poured, tan colour and creamy with decent sticky lace. Looks quite English; good body to it.

Smells very caramelly with English toffee and an odd note of sherbet. Rosewater that's a bit too sweet as well, and overall smells a bit muddy, with hops coming across quite dank in spite of their floral, tangy aroma. Can't say I'm huge on this.

Taste is also malty, with burnt toffee, rich earth and salted caramel upfront. Gets dank and resinous hop character midway for a slight mouldy note, touch of lemon pith and astringent pepper on the back. Needs way more lift, this is a heavy and murky palate, with only one flavour note. Needs more cut 'n' contrast.

Bit full in the mouth, but ultimately slick. Alpha acids pull the mouth back a bit, still a bit heavy, but not bad stylistically.

Not a huge fan of this; quite heavy and full-on, and would like something there to cut through more.

Photo of danieelol
3.8/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Nice appearance, golden red with nice head and lacing.

S: Definitely in the "Australian IPA"style. Malt bomb. Bottled in May which puts it within 4 months old. Gotta be honest, I actually like this one's malt profile. Sweet and chocolatey with a bit of tropical pineapple hop breaking through, almost barleywine-esque.

T: More crystal? and caramelly malts with a balanced sweetness. Again enjoyable, with a nice alcohol/hop in the finish. Pine does come through more in the taste.

M: Not bad at all. Medium/thin body with some syrup.

O: Think this works well in fact. Always prefer my IPAs to actually be hoppy, but this one's malt was nice enough to win me over.

Photo of Stew41
3.3/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

New world or North American style. Tan brown in colour with a very thin head; about what one can expect. Big sweet nose of souped up malts and lifted sweet malts. The aromas are incredibly powerful and very American. Flavours are dry, relative to the palate, but still very much in the mould. Malts fall away a touch and more about resiny hops and a herbal underlay. Chris has read this well; the flavour does noticeably fall away and lacks penetration. Still, a pretty good interpretation.

Photo of joecast
3.25/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Revisiting this for no particular reason. Well, two half reasons really. #1 found a six week old bottle and wanted to try a fresh example. #2 got a bottle of legit import torpedo for 4th of July and doing a bit of side by side.

Appearance is unchanged. Clear copper, medium carbonation and a thin white head.
Average aroma for the style. Quite nice pine and floral but you really have to sniff it out.
Nice bitter hit but a bit too heavy on residual sweetness. Would be so much easier to drink if it cut back the sweetness.
Good effort but doesn't quite hit the mark. Feels like the balance is just not quite right. Meaning it is trying to be balanced when they should just focus on the hops. Doesn't need to be super bitter but can load up on the flavor and aroma. (and ease up on the crystal malt!)

---previous review from 2009 ---
surprisingly dark for an ipa. clear and copper/brown in color. very low carbonation and not much head to speak of. not much of a start.

nice hoppy aroma. mainly pine. the label says "dense". it may have been and faded, but its still ok. a bit of malt sweetness comes through as well.

too much sweetness in the taste. certainly is bitter. sharp and biting as it should be. i would gladly trade off the crystal malt sweetness for some hop flavor though. finish is all hop bitterness.

mouthfeel seems a bit heavy and slick.

way too much crystal malt here. i dont know why brewers try to balance an ipa. it actually hurts the taste and drinkability i think. plenty of hops here for sure, but trying to peel through all the malt gets a bit tiring (and it masks the hop flavor).

Photo of vancurly
3.98/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled on 1 March, 2011.

a) Pours a rich, russet/chestnut hue. Creamy offwhite head, very faint fine bead.

s) Big caramel hit first up, with resinous followup. Floral, honeycomb, savoury biscuit like vitawheat or bbq shapes (nice).

t) Pine resin is noticable, some licorice/molasses, toffee. Big flavour, hint of alcohol. Good assertive bitterness

m) Lightly syrupy. Long, cloying back palate, good length.

d) A great autumnal beer. Rich & rewarding. Would limit it to two pints max, or 4 halves, which would be the ideal way to drink it.

Photo of shambeano
3.6/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A-pours almost red, with a whisper of head. no lacing.

S- whoah, smells sweet and syrupy, some herbally Hop, and a touch of pine.

T- its quite bitter, with that same herbally and piney flavours, a little peppery almost. hiding just underneath is that maple syrup type sweetness. little bit of alcohol and some dried dark fruit. finish is pretty bitter. Not to bad at all.

M- this is a little thick, carbonation is minimal, finish is bitter, and only slightly drying.

D- its not bad, and i like the flavour, but i dont think i could drink more than a couple of these in a night.

Photo of jbowers56
3.55/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark for an IPA/IIPA. Reasonable off white head which fades to a sparse layer. A little bit o' lacing.

Sweet caramel malt, some grapefruity/piny hops. Not huge from either.

Firstly, this is, for my tastes, a poorly balanced IIPA if we are going to call it that. It is too malty, and not hoppy enough. To be fair, I am tasting this just after a jamieson beast which I really love. Either way, that been claims to be an IPA, not an IIPA, and is more powerful in its hop presence, and, in reality probably more like an IIPA than this. That being said, I kinda like it. The grapefruit and pine hop notes are there, as well as the sweet maltyness. A bit herbal at the end too. Finishes bitter, but mildly so for the style.

Carbonated moderately, and feels pretty good in the mouth. Doesnt make me want to go back for more, so im marking the drinkability only ok.

Photo of mulder1010
3.88/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ML poured into a tulip glass 12/11/09 bottling date

A-- Poured a very dark reddish brown color, tints of red on the sides.t I think needs to be a bit more of a lighter color. Could pass for an ESB easily. Half finger of a light brown head that had had nice retention. No real lacing on the glass.

S-- Hops, malt, chocolate and carmel. A little bit weaker than USA DIPA's but the smell is correct. Does not have the "uumph" that a DIPA needs. Pine and citrus are there but again muted in a lot of ways.

T-- Pretty aggressive hop attack in the first sip but missing the malt also. Pine, citrus and carmel are also there but a lot more about the hop flavor.

M-- Hop feel sticks around for a while. Pretty creamy and spot on carbonation. Lacks the malt punch that DIPA's have though. Far more hop central I think.

D-- Well hidden ABV and very drinkable. Too bad it's hard to find in Sydney. Only real issue is it is somewhat muted. I mean not as big, or as balanced. as say the Great Divide Hercules or Pliney is. Worth buying more of and worth looking for. If this were bigger, as in a bigger ABV it could be quite dangerous in a very good way. I guess in a way very unbalanced. I got a lot more hops and less malt. Maybe a fresher batch than others who have reviewed. Seems to be that one way or another the beer is unbalanced in one extreme or another.

Photo of Hanger
3.93/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

330 mL bottle in oversized wine glass

A - Dark red-brown (too dark for a pale ale) with only a thin lacing, not much head at all

S - hops were strong initially along with rich malts

T - rich malts, toasted grains, hops not overly strong (doesn't fit the style)

M - smooth body with no lingering aftertaste

D - nice and drinkable, could easily drink again but doesn't the hops cahracteristics in taste of an IPA, let alone a DIPA. A really good beer but not really the style it is labelled as.

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Hopinator from Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel
82 out of 100 based on 36 ratings.