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Temptress Chocolate Porter - Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel

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Temptress Chocolate PorterTemptress Chocolate Porter

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BA SCORE
84
good

41 Ratings
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Ratings: 41
Reviews: 26
rAvg: 3.73
pDev: 13.14%
Wants: 3
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel visit their website
Australia

Style | ABV
American Porter |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: brendan13 on 08-12-2008)
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Photo of biboergosum
3.68/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle. Winter is here, it's cold, but not that cold, so, well, oh, what the hell...

This beer pours a clear, very dark amber cola hue, with two fingers of foamy, somewhat creamy beige head, which leaves a low ebbing wall of painted lace around the glass as it rather quickly sinks away.

It smells prominently of medium chocolate, edgy vanilla, some wavering nuttiness that is, and isn't, hazelnut, some almost unnoticed roasted caramel malt notes, and relatively mild fruity, earthy hops. The taste is decent powdered cocoa, blended with a more sedate vanilla bean essence, lightly toasted caramel malt, some quite understated fruity cherry notes, a taunting, weak sourness, and tame earthy, leafy hops.

The carbonation is fairly subdued, though hardly absent, the body an adequate medium weight, with caveats of thinning here and there, with a suitable lulling smoothness for the style. It finishes on the sweet side, the cocoa, now astringent vanilla, and slightly weird fruitiness facing little in terms of opposition.

An enjoyable enough brew, though I'm not getting much to qualify this as American in style, and what I do get for the London side is just a bit too ethereal in which to place belief. Whatever, this Aussie offering is doing well enough all on its own - though I do wonder what they would consider 'winter' conditions over there...

biboergosum, Nov 20, 2012
Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.2/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Local Taphouse in Sydney. For all appearances this was nitrogen pumped, so I've put that as the serving type.

And indeed, the appearance is amazing. The body is extremely thick and rich; a lovely deep ebony black colour, with a clear delineation between it and the creamy and fine beige head. Must be off nitro-tap, I've never seen such a creamy head from any other. Lacing is amazing. It's a truly extraordinary looking beer.

Lots of chocolate on the nose, with a subtle but noticeable dabble in roasted bitterness. Creamy and smooth characters, sweet vanilla and a little cherry essence. Lovely.

Chocolate on the palate, incredibly smooth but with a lightness that leavens it slightly. Mouthfeel is creamy and slick: just awesome. It's so creamy and delectable. The dark chocolate tends towards big roasted grains but doesn't quite get there, leaving it supple and soothing.

This is an absolutely lovely drop of beer. So smooth, so drinkable and so delectable. On tap, it's fantastic. In my opinion, it's one of the best brews Australia has done in recent times, and proof that Australia's craft beer scene is burgeoning.

lacqueredmouse, Oct 19, 2010
Photo of GraduatedCashew
3.75/5  rDev +0.5%

GraduatedCashew, Aug 29, 2013
Photo of dgilks
3.95/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep black with a small, creamy tan head. Poor head retention.

Milk chocolate, a hint of liquorice, some roast and moderate fruity esters. A rich, fruity aroma.

Like the aroma this is quite complex. Chocolate, roast and some liquorice come through. Fruity notes are good. Nice lingering finish.

Fairly full bodied with moderate carbonation. Smooth and silky.

A tasty, flavourful porter. Perfect for winter.

dgilks, Dec 27, 2009
Photo of tbeckett
3.05/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle from Beer Deluxe. Hope this goes better than tap.

A - Pours black with a two finger khaki head. Good carbonation coming up. Spotty lace and a film of retention.

S - A bit of roast with a good amount of chocolate.

T - Roasty, burnt toast, dark chocolate is mild and some coffee. Not nearly as much chocolate as you'd expect. It's there but not so strong.

M - Good carbonation, medium body and a mildly chocolatey finish.

O/D - I don't buy into this beer's hype at all. Whatever chocolate they want to come out here clearly isn't working for them. Not bad, but certainly what you'd expect.

tbeckett, Apr 14, 2012
Photo of laituegonflable
4.38/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a very dark brown. Just brown when held up to the light, but mostly black. Impenetrable head is ochre, thin film and unevenly sunk with lovely tight lace. Damn fine porter. I like the colour especially. Could just use more head. But then, couldn't we all?

Oh, mega chocolatey on the nose, with lovely sweet and roasty balance. A large vanilla aroma blends with milk chocolate. Hits all the right notes, without falling into the easy trap of being too sweet.

Taste is pretty nice as well. Starts with fairly strong cocoa with a slight bitterness. Blooms wonderfully into a rich, sweet chocolatey flavour. Lots of milk chocolate and a hint of espresso giving a mocha edge I guess. Quite sweet late-mid, a bit lactic and slightly over the top but just slightly. Otherwise a beautifully sweet and dark drop, just a big mélange of sexy chocolate. I would definitely rub this all over my body, if I were so inclined to rub beer all over my body.

Fairly good body. Doesn't quite cover the carbonation here, which is pretty unnecessary. The achilles' heel of this drop. Could use a nitro-widget to be perfectly honest, smooth out the edges.

Beautiful beer. It's a cracker.

laituegonflable, Dec 13, 2010
Photo of CrazyDavros
3.63/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very dark copper pour with a moderately sized tan head that slowly fades.
Aroma consists of mil chocolate, roasted malt, sultanas and just a hint of vanilla (it merges with the chocolate).
Loads of chocolate grain evident upon tasting: lots of nutty and toasty note with a hint of roasted grain but little of the roasty bitterness. Some light chocolate is apparent.
Good medium body, I would have liked it to be richer/creamier.

CrazyDavros, Sep 24, 2009
Photo of ADZA
3.88/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer pours a jet black colour that leaves no head with minimal carbonation,it smells of pure rich cocoa,coffee and hints of vanilla,and on taste the rich cocoa,chocolate flavours are dominant with a subtle coffee taste in the background and it goes down very,very smooth indeed,i have never tasted a beer with such a dominant cocoa taste such a beautiful dessert beer that i will be buying again.

ADZA, Jul 07, 2009
Photo of Jeffo
2.2/5  rDev -41%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Brew from BobbyHeenan. Cheers!

From a bottle into a snifter
Brewed with Dutch cocoa and vanilla beans

APPEARANCE: Clear brown pour produces a one finger, loose, crackly, cream colored head with lousy retention. Head quickly fizzes down to nothing really. Looks flat rather quickly. Clear dark brown body with no carbonation. Finishes flat.

SMELL: Dark malts, chocolate malt, light vanilla and caramel on the nose. Cocoa and sweet creamy as well. Bold enough.

TASTE: Quite empty really. Not much up front at all. Light cocoa perhaps but that's reaching perhaps. Some light chocolate, burnt malts and a touch of sweet cream lingers after the swallow. Slightly metallic finish isn't all that enjoyable. A plastic, metallic flavor accompanied by stale chocolate lingers and lingers long after the swallow.

PALATE: Thinner body and higher levels of carbonation. Bubbly on the palate, goes down airy and finishes slightly sticky. Too light and bubbly, unfortunately.

OVERALL: Not my cup of tea. The look was rather lousy, while the metallic, plastic, artificial and stale chocolate didn't really do it for me either. The thin and bubbly body didn't help the situation either. Thanks again for the box Bobby. They can't all be winners.

Jeffo, Jul 08, 2014
Photo of soju6
3.95/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a black colorwith a small head and no lacing.

S: Aroma of chocolate, dark fruit and roasted malt.

T: Taste of roasted malt, chocolate, some dark fruit with a bit of coffee. Mild bitterness and a dry finish.

F: Medium body, smooth and creamy. Character evolves as it warms.

O: Nicely balanced. Good beer to finish th day with.

soju6, May 27, 2013
Photo of pin
3/5  rDev -19.6%

pin, May 22, 2013
Photo of brendan13
4/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Very dark brown coloured beer poured into a pint glass with a few centimetres of beige head that slowly falls away.
S - Sweet chocolate & roasted notes dominate the smell. The vanilla is there but is very subtle.
T - Again chocolately on the taste with a sweetish caramel taste also coming through. A very vauge vanilla hint also in the taste.
M - Smooth, medium bodied with a pretty low carbonation. Slightly roasty chocolate taste lingers.
D - A good beer that I'll be drinking again.

brendan13, Aug 12, 2008
Photo of heygeebee
2.85/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours one finger head - with a Godalmighty high pour! Dissapears quickly, little lacing.

Aromas of - not much - sad.

Taste is quite restrained - some chocolate, malts, a little bitterness and ashtray - but not a huge amount, understated all round. Where is the sweetness?

Mouthfeel is quite light. With a 6% ABV I would have expected more warmth, but no.

Overall OK - not quite what I was expecting from an 'Aus top beer'... tho did improve as it warmed.

heygeebee, Jul 30, 2011
Photo of Poupae
3.75/5  rDev +0.5%

Poupae, Jul 18, 2013
Photo of dansmcd
3.8/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Thin, tan head receding to a collar almost instantly. Very dark brown, almost black in the body.

S - As advertised, chocolate at the forefront. Backed by coffee and treacle.

T - Powdered dark chocolate, coffee, caramel and vanilla.

M - Moderate body and carbonation.

O - A nice, after dinner beverage with or for dessert.

dansmcd, Oct 25, 2011
Photo of Kroehny_Loves_Hops
3/5  rDev -19.6%

Kroehny_Loves_Hops, May 01, 2014
Photo of danieelol
4.25/5  rDev +13.9%

danieelol, Nov 28, 2011
Photo of joecast
3.6/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 3/11/10. Is that the Australian date formate meaning four weeks ago? Impressive if so.

Blackish with slight red highlights and a foamy tan head. Could easily pass for a stout here. Low carbonation. Decent head retention.

Chocolate dominates the aroma. Not in a sweet candy way though. Sort of a toned down youngs dcs which is a good thing to me. No hops to hint at it's beefiness, but there is some maltiness there. A bit of roast, just enough to offset the rest which is nice.

Really wanted this to work better. In it's favor though it seems to be extremely difficult to balance chocolate in any form (other than chocolate malt) and still leave a drinkable, balanced beer.
Here the chocolate flavor is certainly a big factor and just crosses into having a slight artificial aspect to it. Maybe a big IS can get away with it, but here where the chocolate is the focus it has little to hide behind. There is a good amount of porter maltiness and enough bitterness for balance but for a relatively light 6% beer, I can't ignore that artificialness.

Getting past that, the mouthfeel is really spot on. And as for drinkability I could go one more as the finish is light and dry enough. But would struggle to do more than a pint.
Overall it's a great effort for a chocolate beer. Give me the base porter and this could be a seriously good beer.

joecast, Dec 06, 2010
Photo of mulder1010
3.45/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

330 ML poured into a tulip Bottled 12/14/09

A-- Poured a dark cola color and settled black with small tints of red on the bottom and sides of the glass. One finger brown sugar head that quickly falls off. On swirling get a two finger head that quickly fades to film. No lacing. Looks more carbonated than it should but also very typical of Aussie porters and stouts to be more carbonated.

S-- Sweet chocolate brownie. A little bit of cherry and thin in spots but a lot of chocolate and baking chocolate.

T-- Very carbonated in the taste. Light and a lot of chocolate. Not thick and chewy at all in the taste. Chocolate, cherry, baking chocolate, and a malt. More of a chocolate cherry brownie to me.

M-- Has a lot of the classic porter tastes but thinner and more carbonated. More suited to this climate and the milder winters. Light feel but captures what a porter should be but higher carbonation. Chewy in spots and not in others. Has a few gaps of thinness to this but nothing wrong with it.

D-- Drinkable due to the lightness of it. A porter you can drink year round here. ABV is well hidden and get what is right in porters but just a bit toned down. Not bad but different. Could use a touch less carbonation though. Otherwise solid beer.

mulder1010, Apr 05, 2011
Photo of KalanM
3.75/5  rDev +0.5%

KalanM, Aug 09, 2013
Photo of LittleCreature
3.95/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - 3.0
Pours a thin beige head that quickly all but disappeared over a solid black body.

Smell - 4.0
Rather sweet and chocolatey aroma; cocoa, chocolate syrup and vanilla. Might sound sickly, but nice and appropriate for the style.

Taste - 4.0
A very interesting combination of flavours. Sweetish with malty flavours of burnt toast, cocoa and dark chocolate. Moderate to assertively bitter, much of this coming from hops as well as roasted grain. A little dark fruit, vanilla and peppery alcohol comes through in the finish.

Mouthfeel - 4.0
Less body than expected, but this only serves to improve drinkability. Lightly carbonated with fine bead, giving a smooth mouthfeel.

Drinkability - 4.0
Something I'll definitely be drinking again, could become a winter favourite. Could score higher if not for the obvious alcohol.

OVERALL - 3.8
A good beer, and an interesting variation of the style. Sweeter, more hopped and stronger than a traditional porter, less roasty than a stout. Tasty regardless, would go well with chocolate based desserts. Better head retention would have resulted in a score of 4, which I think would be a better reflection of the class of this beer.

LittleCreature, Feb 02, 2010
Photo of SmashPants
3.35/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: quality solid brown 330mL bottle, typically funky Holgate label - I like it.

Appearance: the body is quite thick, very dark brown leading to black. A very thin tan head hangs about for quite a time. Nice.

Aroma: heavy cocoa, roast coffee and some sweet chocolate on the nose. A reasonably rich aroma for a porter, which is a nice change. There's some more light fruit over the top - grapes or cherry.

Taste: heavy chocolate up front, with heavy fruits backing up and a definite cocoa-and-coffee bitterness over the top. The only problem I can see is that the flavour is not very strong at all, if anything it seems too demure - a bit wishy-washy almost.

Aftertaste: that coffee bitterness hangs about, but not much else. Not a great aftertaste.

Mouth feel: quite solid and creamy in body with lower to moderate carbonation. Helps the beer slide down nicely.

Overall: not a bad beer at all - at least it's well made and has all the right flavours across the profile. It is very coffee though which is not my thing, and a little demure. Too expensive at full price - AU$110 a case of 24 (2013).

SmashPants, Jul 20, 2013
Photo of Bobhoya
4/5  rDev +7.2%

Bobhoya, Feb 20, 2014
Photo of doktorhops
3.42/5  rDev -8.3%

Holgate, those likeable chaps from Mount Macedon 69 clicks out of Melbourne (the Victorian variety), are a decent craft brewer from my previous forays into their Road Trip and Hopinator, that seem to be chasing a craft style that is a touch American (i.e. well-hopped brews) with a hint of Aussie (i.e. let’s not overdo it as Australians can’t handle big hops). I appreciate what they bring to the table whilst at the same time wishing they didn’t pander to the MCM - Mass Craft Market: My term for people getting into craft brews because of (its now) immense popularity but who also can’t handle a beer with hops, so they seek a faux-hopped beer to look cool and wax lyrical over how “impressive” and “fruity” the hops are in said beer... Wow, am I now a beer snob? Nah!

Poured from tap into a 425ml Schooner.

A: Clear cola body with a half centimetre tan head. Not bad, not terrific, not qu'est-ce que c'est - average, sorta better than. 6/10.

S: Notes of milk/dark chocolate with a hint of roasted coffee, vanilla extract and an odd (for a Porter) floral hop note lingering in the background. Not as chocolaty as it should be with a name like “Chocolate Porter”, I’ve smelt more chocolate in a hardback copy of Roald Dahl’s Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. 6/10.

T: Here we go: Some bold chocolate upfront, with hints of the above (coffee, vanilla) and a slight bitter floral hop finish. Tasty and moreish. Although that floral hop finish is still quite distracting for the style... I’ll forgive it just this once. 7/10.

M: Nice and medium bodied with a light but dense carbonation. Again tap beers do benefit greatly over bottles in the mouthfeel. 8/10.

D: It is overall a solid and tasty Porter. Interesting hop finish given the style but I say it works well in presenting the taste buds with something different. The ABV at 6% is intriguing as it doesn’t feel any more than a 4 or 5% brew so they’ve hidden that well. Temptress is classic Holgate territory, they generally put together a solid brew without any muss, they aren’t quite as good as Feral or Little Creatures, or my new fav HopDog though so I really don’t go out of my way to buy their brews. 7/10.

Food match: Something gooey, chocolaty and beefy - how about a stew with chocolate, beef and a hint of chilli (because you need to add chilli to chocolate these days, it’s a rule).

doktorhops, Sep 14, 2014
Photo of Macca
4.3/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This pours deep black with a very slight beige head which doesn't hang around for long.

Did someone say chocolate? More than just a dash of the Dutch cocoa I expect. An aroma of sweet goodness. None of the vanilla is evident.

Wonderful chocolate bitterness on the palate. A little bit of coffee in there and a touch of the vanilla right at the back.

Medium bodied. Low carbonation. Good length.

Loved it. I'll be revisiting often.

Macca, May 30, 2009
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Temptress Chocolate Porter from Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel
84 out of 100 based on 41 ratings.