Taps: 12 / Bottles: 11
Cask: N / Beer-to-Go: N
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3.65/5 rDev +0.8%
vibe: 3.5 | quality: 4 | service: 3.5 | selection: 3.5 | food: 3.5 | $$
Our Fishtown tour some more, today. Backtracking now and parties met, what about that German joint? Really, um, yeah, sure. It’s like right here. A stone’s throw from, and I mean, I have a shit arm but could easily hit it, Johnny Brenda’s. Drunken kids departing as we were arriving; I guess that this must be the place...
Large windows to both sides of a center entrance box vestibule and layers beyond, sprawling and expansive. Industrial space with I beams, rafters, a few spinnys, ductwork, cut through mad archways of brick, and a wide wide opening through the center space, all that. Mix & match wood plank far wall, and large windowage up front. To the right, a row of 6 beer hall tables, and 3 more sideways & 3 raised roundies behind ‘em. To the left, 4 beer hall tables, a few roundies, and a tree plank looking “C” shaped bar with an alt wood slat bar base adjacent. Seating for a ½ dozen+ stooled there, with a cut through to the rear room behind an inconveniently placed glassware rack. Horizontal blackboard above lists tap & bottled selections. 6 beers on a tower on the bar, and another 6 on the back side bar space (and another tower or two duping). Seating for none there; service only, and off to the side, what Davo is calling an “industrial professional ping pong table” (I am sure he is still feeling the burn of the pasting I dealt him late night at that place in Greenpoint last month). A Foosball table beyond that, and 4 roundy tables.
12 taps in all, served in all sorts of who are we kidding, it’s all litre and .5L muggage here with the one off for that which isn’t. ½ of them German offerings (Kostritzer Schwarzbier, Hofbrau Maibock, Franziskaner Hefe & Dunkel Weizen, Spaten Okto, Weihenstephaner Original Lager), and the other ½ mostly local/regional craft (Great Lakes Elliot Ness, Stoudts APA, Yards IPA, Victory Prima Pils, DogFishHead My Antonia, and the ‘rotating tap’ North Coast Old Rasfuckinputin). I drank the Great Lakes Elliot Ness, ‘cause cause.
Slight bottle list of 11, a few of a bunch of things; Germs (Ayinger Celebrator Dopplebock, Schneider Aventinus, Weihenstephaner Hefeweisen, Innstadt Extra Schwarze), regional craft (Sly Fox Pikeland Pils, DogFishHead 60 Minute IPA), however you want to group this lot (Yuengling, Old Reading Bavarian Lager, Narrogansett Lager), a crap mac (Miller Lite), and token cider (Doc’s Apple Cider). And a single can, albeit a 5L Bitburger draft mini keg. There’s also a ½ dozen wines by the glass or bottle.
They do food, true. Ed returned with a number so I knowsomething’s a-coming. He ordered the Riesenpretzel (absurdly large pretzel, literal translation), and the potato pancakes. I took a small piece of pretzel, multiple times; fooling no one. The pancake was okay. The food was food, nothing crazy. They also deal other app type things, 6 snausages and 6 what they are calling burgers (salmon, veggie, lamb, turkey, cow, nicely treated cow), and a few german classics (schnitzel, schnauzer, spatzle).
Did I mention the series of windowed garage door that are the rear wall looking upon the biergarten? Lemme venture out there to see what’s what. Courtyard of big brick walls on 3 sides around, with a sea of tableage; 2 rows of 9 beer hall tables to the left, and 2 rows of 6 & 7 beer hall tables leading back to another ping pong table to the right. A pair of firepits in between with benchings surrounding, and trees & heat lamps dotting the landscape. Seriously, fire pits? ‘cause in my experience, beer + fire, well, anyway, there are people cooking marshmallows in the fire pits, but we’ve voted for throwing on the guy wearing salmon colored shorts. Stands for beer for the order on one side, and food for the order on the other.
I really wanted to crush Davo on that ping pong table just so I can say I’ve made him cry in 4 states. The German beer hall with only ½ their tap list containing German beer barely covers the bases, in my opinion (grumble grumble). I expected something Radegastesque, and got something Studio Squareish. Music is club, and the crowd is kiddie hipster haven. If ‘there’s something for everyone’, then I’m sure this is someone’s everything, but not mine.
07-06-2012 20:30:33 | More by slander
3.1/5 rDev -14.4%
vibe: 5 | quality: 4 | service: 3 | selection: 2 | food: 1.5 | $$$
Frankford Hall is a swing and a miss in my opinion. I went here with my girlfriend to check out the new German spot in the city, and we both had the same reaction: "Really?"
The atmosphere is the best thing ever. I gave this place a 5 without batting an eye because it deserves nothing less. Really open space, with games to play, a open courtyard with trees and games and seating all over the place. The style and feel of this place is just awesome; it makes you want to come with a group of friends and just hang out for an entire day drinking beer and playing games. I can think of no greater achievement when designing a social arena.
As for my rating on "quality," I'm not sure what quality is referring to...I am assuming it is the quality of the establishment and how they present themselves? Because it cannot mean quality of beer, since that falls under "selection" and it can't mean quality of food because that falls under "food". So for "quality" (of life?) i will give this a good score as well. Fun, fresh air, clean, good amount of room for movement with a young attractive waitstaff. Good.
Service is somewhat odd. There aren't waiters or waitresses, but there are bartenders and hostesses (and pretzel girls). The level of service that I did receive seemed somewhat cold and impersonal. They are not really there to be your friends, but more so to help facilitate fun with you and your friends. Me personally, I want to talked up and I want that connection to a server.
The beer selection kinda sucks. It isn't like they have awful beers on tap (or at least not many...Franz) but of the 12 draft lines, only 5 are dedicated to German beers (Kostritzer Schwarzbier, Franziskaner Hefe, Franz Dunkel, Weihenstephan Lager and Spaten Oktoberfest). I can drink Dogfish Head in every other bar in Philadelphia...WHY ARE YOU PUTTING THAT ON TAP AT A GERMAN BIERGARTEN? Anyways, they need to take a note from Brauhaus Schmitz and really focus on German beers. Local beers? Yeah they are great, but if I want Yards I know where to get it...no need to "throw them a bone" by putting it on tap. Need more German beers. And actually...
Need LESS German food. Apparently, Frankford Hall imports a lot of foods and ingredients from Germany, which sounds pretty sweet, but I think that has some serious limitations. Just because the food comes from Germany doesn't mean it is good or worthy of being served to customers. I tried the wursts and the rotkhol(sp?)...the braised red cabbage...and I was seriously underwhelmed. I know that the whole place was highly anticipated and maybe that is why I am being really harsh, but my experiences with German beer and food so far (originally through going to Brauhaus Schmitz) is that it is awesome and tasty and delicious. This food was served on a paper plate and was not worthy of the $$ spent.
And yeah, I felt like a lot of this was overpriced. That side of red cabbage was $4. I know $4 is not much in the grand scheme of things, but for God's sake, it's sub-par cheap ass cabbage and you are giving it to me on a piece of paper.. What about that sounds like it should cost $4? The beer prices were too high as well. $7 for Kostritzer? It is $5.50 at Brauhaus. Come on.
I hope anyone reading this can now understand why my girlfriend and I could only say...."Really?"
02-17-2012 16:53:26 | More by MusicaleMike
Frankford Hall in Philadelphia, PA
86 out of 100 based on 12 ratings.