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Grotten Brown (Pierre Celis Signature) - Brouwerij St. Bernardus NV

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Grotten Brown (Pierre Celis Signature)Grotten Brown (Pierre Celis Signature)

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70 Reviews
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Reviews: 70
Hads: 79
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 10.5%
Wants: 4
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij St. Bernardus NV visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  6.70% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerBeing on 12-30-2006

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 70 | Hads: 79
Photo of ralree
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Deep red with a beautiful reddish-white head. 2-fingers of glory. Great retention and prefect lacing.

S: Smells like it should - fruity but not overpowering. Dark fruits and some lighter fruits are present.

T: Dark sweet fruits are good to the tongue. Roasted taste is the first flavor, followed by a smoky sweet alcoholic fruitiness. Caramel malt gives it a nice non-fruit basis, along with some decent hops.

M: Medium-bodied, pretty overcarbonated, non-astringent, clean and dry. Overall not bad.

D: Drinks pretty well. I will probably buy it again when I want a good fruity Belgian ale. (597 characters)

Photo of andrewm190
3.81/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a huge and distinguished head, side retention and clings mightily to the side of the glass. The smell is fair, nothing overwhelming, perhaps some hops? Perhaps a bit too much alcohol. Good mouth feel, a complex flavor, I can't pick everything out even if I know its there--although hops are most prominent.
It is clean and crisp, some malts, perhaps some spices. You can taste there is quality here. Dark amber in color.
The overriding aspect of this beer is that it is pricey. I had high hopes given the ridiculous sum I paid for it. Ultimately it falls far short of my expectations. Perhaps they were too high to begin with. But I have certainly had better beers for less. If your undaunted by the price, go for it, but it probably won't be the best beer you drink. (775 characters)

Photo of GbVDave
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a St. Bernardus chalice at Map Room 11/27/07. Thanks to HeatherAnn for the assist. Listed on their beer menu and website as being the version rated at 6.7% abv...

A: Served a dark, plummy brown with a nice creamy, pillowy head.

S: Aromas of sweet malt, candi sugar, grapes, and sweet dark fruit.

T: See above. Interesting hint of grape.

M: Quite smooth with a tangy fruity finish.

D: Good. This one is interesting enough to bear further examination... (466 characters)

Photo of Osiris9588
3.38/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750 bottle caged and corked, no date. Pours a slightly murky amber color, with mahogany overtones. The beige head grows to four fingers high, the foamy dome extending above the lip of a tulip glass. It shows decent retention and leaves ample dots of small-bubble lacing.

The aroma is dominated by caramel malt and yeast, along with a little musty cardboard. The flavor follows, along with a dose of cherry cough syrup, a dash of spice.

It's medium bodied with good carbonation. The mouth seems a little dull, and the alcohol is rather forward for the ABV. Not terrible, but there are many other Dark Belgians I'd grab first. (626 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
4.33/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Geez, what a fantastic beer--the brewery simply can do no wrong. The beer decants with a delicate amber / brown color with a rocky head formation that released a lot of sweet-tartness, cotton candy, and ripe fruits. The taste is even better--a hearty, juicy flavor of sweet malted candy, cookie dough, peaches, pears, apricots, plumbs, dates, berries, and just vineous enough to balance out the richness and add character to the taste. The body is a bit heavy despite the high carbonation and alcohol thinning. A mild hop bittering intensifies in the finish, but remains firm, spicy, and sweet throughout. Not as dark or deeply flavored as most Belgian Darks, but certainly no lack of character or quality. Simply a supurb beer! Thanks bmock. (742 characters)

Photo of xzqrut
3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Beer poured out very nicely, a nice thick head, with excellent lacing all the way down. Beer also had very lively carbonation, and a medium copper color. The smell gave a nice floral scent, with roasted malt. Taste to me seemed lacking, almost flat compared to the appearance and smell. Some hoppy bitterness, dark fruit and nuts, but nothing powerful. Beer was lively in the mouth, but the taste just left me wanting more. (423 characters)

Photo of Brianmerrilyn
4.32/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured the largest head I've ever seen, with slow angled careful care. Remains entire quafing providing additional aromoma. Crimson or burgany red, which ever adjective you prefer. Interestingly continued bubbles even with dark hue.

S: Dates and plum smell immediately.

T: Rich texture,

M: Smooth and slicker in aftertaste

D: Easy if you like heavy earthy beers. (369 characters)

Photo of atigerlife
3.79/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark caramel brown with a 2-finger light brown head that was slightly chunky. Good lacing. Very nice to look at.

Aroma was rather musty with some dark fruits.

Taste had dark fruits [dates, plums, raisins], sweetness, malts throughout, alcohol and some wine type hints.

Mouthfeel was medium+ bodied, cleansing and dry at the end.

Overall, a very nice brew. Quite complex, warming and inviting. Good to sit around and relax with. (440 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled on tap at the First Annual Stone Sour Fest, July 2007
This is topped by a creamy, persistent, though small, light colored head that sits on top of a hazy, gold colored beer. This beer has a very grainy aroma to it; this is made up of notes of fresh crushed grain and a sort of malt room aromatic quality. This has a very subtle sour character to it; it is almost note even there. Hints of orange zest are also noticeable in the aroma.

The taste has notes of lemon zest and a very subtle sourness. The malt is still pronounced, even in the flavor, though it is not quite as much as it is in the aroma. Notes of toasty grain, a distinct biscuit-like note, touches of soda crackers and a light, sweet, maltiness. The beer has a nice, light, creamy mouthfeel to it. The clean malt character is quite interesting (especially in this flight of sour beers), but this only has a hint of funkiness a perhaps a drop of acidity. I'll definitely have to try this again, as it almost seemed out of place at a sour beer festival. (1,024 characters)

Photo of oelergud
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Corked and caged 1pt 9.4oz bottle.
Beautiful dark mahogany clear body with light carbonation. Huge light tan, creamy head with large bubbles here and there. Good rentention and lace.
Fresh scent of slightly sour fruit, apricot, brown sugar and dark roasted malts.
Malty and spiced flavor still with a touch of fruit. Prune and abit of pear and cherries. Aftertaste of spiced malts with some mildly pine-like hops.
Medium to full body, some good coating and a slight dry finish.
Good drinkability. Nice to have a big bottle without the monster abv being involved. Though not quite worth the 10 bucks.

-Oelergud (617 characters)

Photo of Westsidethreat
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Muddy toffee color with antique white head. The bubbles are very large, yet can stand firm for quite some time.

S: Fresh yeast, jasmine, brown sugar and mineral characters.

T: Starts out yeasty with jasmine & brown sugar, with minor peach and apricot. Then comes a simple syrup, sugar cube with a earthy bitterness at the end of the sip. Finishes somewhat dry and dirty.

D: Ok beer, not that complex. Would be interesting to try it aged. (449 characters)

Photo of BretSikkink
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Deep copper-brown, caramel like soda, off-white head. The head gives off a slightly spicy, cinnamon-like aroma. Subdued nose - not unpleasant, just not assertive.

After the first goblet-full, I had nothing good to say. The bottle had not been refridgerated, but it's winter here in Iowa, so "room temperature" was fairly chilly. There was almost no flavor whatsoever. Extremely dry, it was like the aging had taken all the roasted characteristics out of the malt while the yeast had given up; hops are minimal anyways. The only taste of any kind was spicing.

The other glass was excellent. Without hyperbole, it was reminiscent of St. Bernardus' Prior 8 (I did not realize it was made at the Brouwerij) - the warming phenols and caramely, full flavors. I think this beer needs to sit out and warm up for a while, as cooler temperatures just kill the flavor. Still dry, the beer is much more balanced as you can taste alcohol and malt in addition to the spicing. The suggested serving temperature should be followed only for those who don't like tasting their beer - let it warm, and don't be afraid to wet your whistle with a glass of water if the oxidized alcohol aftertaste gets annoying.

Note: I had posted this under the other Grotten brown originally. Reposted for the proper beer. Whoops. (1,303 characters)

Photo of BeerZack
3.04/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

I wasn't expecting too much from this beer for some reason despite its impressive packaging and (as one reviewer noted) its pedigree. So I can say that this beer was not disappointing due to that mediocre expectation.
Smells yeasty and sugary
Taste is quite yeasty and hmmm, what is that- phenol, burnt sugar, yep.
Now here's where it gets tricky/interesting- the mouthfeel, which is agressively vigorous in its carbonation is something to remark, but in this particular brew it takes away from the body of the beer which is already lacking in itself. Really nice bubbles though.
Can't say that I would buy this beer again, but I might actually give the other one a try just to get me some more bubbles, man. (712 characters)

Photo of jwc215
4.42/5  rDev +16%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a glass chalice.

Pours ruby brown with a thin white head that eventually becomes a lasting swirling patch that nearly covers the top. Some dots of lacing remain on glass.

The smell is of bubblegum with hints of spicy clove and coriander. Some banana. Very aromatic.

The taste is of spiced dough upfront. Sweet caramelish/sugar-candy maltiness soon takes over. Tropical fruitiness - banana, orange and lemon - lie supportively in the background. Finishes with a balanced caramel sweetness.

At first, it almost thins too much, but it holds together in a light body. As it warms to room temperature, the body thickens a bit more. It is very smooth - alcohol almost completely unnoticeable. It is coating.

A very enjoyable Belgian treat. I would like to buy another to cellar - according to the label it is even more complex with aging. Smooth and very easy to drink. (890 characters)

Photo of BlindPig
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A- Thick tan head on a cloudy amber brown body.
S- Light citrus European hops, light nut, some yeast, sweeter malts, and some spices.
T- Some hops make their way through. A light citrus, and spice. Some nut malt in back ground along with light pepper, hint of yeast, medium malt character, and some other stuff I can't pin point.
M- Thin to medium body with some higher carbonation.
D- I really like this. A little to thin and high carbonation but other than that it is really nice. (486 characters)

Photo of Fugazme
3.2/5  rDev -16%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

At first glance, this beer looks like a glass of tea... soapy cap, murky brown... a little thing... nice lacing.

Aroma is average. Malty... very malty... a little sweet maple and some hints of brown sugar with floral overtones.... bready and yeasty.

A touch weak on the palate. Watery on some swallows, but overall not too bad.

Doughy on the tongue... quite a yeasty character. There is a hint of dried fruit and even some sweet licorice, but overall malt and yeast dominate. A little dry/bitterness left over after the swallow.

I'd call this an average beer. My expectations were high, however, as I've been eyeing this bottle at Beertopia in Omaha since November. I would try it again. (700 characters)

Photo of brdc
3.41/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

i think this one has not "matured" yet.
It is a beautiful reddish-brown, with a plentiful whitish head, but has little aroma, with some hoppiness, bread and malts.
Medium to full body, its taste is a little bit too bitter and hoppy for the style, with a somewhat subdued malt that, if you believe the text on the bottle, is not fully developed yet.
Somewhat disappointing as it is, I will still try to find another bottle and lay it down for two years. (455 characters)

Photo of DaveFL1976
3.04/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This is one fine looking brew. It poured into my Westy goblet with a fluffy white head that stuck around for a while and left plenty remnents on the side of the glass. The body itself is a wonderful golden brown, the color of toast that's been in the toaster 30 seconds too long.
The smell is not quite as good, though. A bit sweet, but fruity and estery. It's got that twang to it that I just haven't grown to appreciate yet.
Said twang isn't as noticable in the taste. It's a decent blend of smooth, sweet malt and a bit of back-of-the-mouth sharpness. No alcohol.
This is way, way too carbonated. As soon as it touches your lips the bubbles explode to the point of diminishing the drinking experience. I'm not a big fan of this brew. (739 characters)

Photo of roblowther
2.52/5  rDev -33.9%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

An extremely impressive-looking 750ml bottle, and with Pierre Celis' signature on it, I'm eager to give it a whirl. Very carbonated, with a fairly dense, rocky head forming over the ruddy brown beer. Tiny bubbles form & cling to the sides of the goblet. Smells of cinnamon. Not much else in the smell, but I probably have the bottle a bit too cold at the moment. The taste starts off promising, that cinnamon leading off, promising more to follow. Then....nothing. Immediately turns very dry and almost seems to evaporate off the tongue without leaving any flavor except a vague cinnamon aftertaste that comes on later. Mouthfeel is similar, starting full but that dryness just takes it all away and it finishes thin. Really surprising for a beer of this color & pedigree. Not terribly drinkable as it just leaves me wanting to have a beer. Very one dimensional beer overall. Not terrible but just not impressive. (913 characters)

Photo of connecticutpoet
3.63/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer was a nice, clear amber brew with a four finger head in my pint glass. The head was composed of large bubbles... one, by the side of the glass, grew to a half inch in diameter before it burst. It was quite rocky. WHen I poured out the rest of the bottle, however, it was hazy.

Aroma was hoppy, with medium-bodied malts underneath. It was quite crisp. There was almost a hint of red wine.

The taste was nutty, yeasty, and bready, with a bit of hoppiness overlaying the whole experience. A little bit of earthiness. Pretty good, and much lighter than a usual strong dark ale.

Mouthfeel was all right, not too chewy, not too watery.

This is an easy drinking beer, even with the higher ABV. It went down really nicely. (738 characters)

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Grotten Brown (Pierre Celis Signature) from Brouwerij St. Bernardus NV
86 out of 100 based on 70 ratings.