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He'Brew / Cathedral Square St. Lenny's - Shmaltz Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
86
very good

189 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 189
Reviews: 41
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 11.43%
Wants: 2
Gots: 17 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Shmaltz Brewing Company visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: CloudStrife on 08-27-2013

Belgian Style Double Rye India Pale Ale
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Ratings: 189 | Reviews: 41
Photo of jngrizzaffi
4.39/5  rDev +14%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a cloudy amber color with a thick foamy head. Head retention and lacing are excellent. Has a deep caramel apple aroma. Somewhat boozy. Bready. There is a rye bready taste with a nice transition to a honey rye hoppiness, ending in a honey caramel aftertaste. There is a lot of complexity to this beer. Slightly soapy sweet aftertaste. Hides the alcohol content well.

Photo of ONUMello
3.53/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into a tulip
A: Amber-colored with a one-finger head that slowly settles
S: Sweet. Molasses, brown sugar, a hint of rye/bubblegum/prune but the sweetness dominates
T: Sweet molasses/dried stone fruit initially followed by some rye towards the finish but again the sugar takes center-stage
M: Full-bodied, borderline cloying, sweet and the alcohol is noticeable
O: Hard to believe this is 10% but also has so much sugar that didn't ferment. Way too sweet for my palate. The Belgian style does come through but for also being billed a "Double Rye IPA" neither the hops nor rye were very prevalent. Nice concept but the final product doesn't deliver

Photo of Trueant1
4.5/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Great brown color that pours a big head.
Yeast, phenols, and, almost apples in the nose, Yeast and alcoholic taste with a hop bitterness. Very wet, moist big beer. Bravo, I will get another bottle of this as I cook my matzo ball soup with schmaltz for Passover!

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.54/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

a belgian rye imperial pale, sort of a weird idea from the get go, the beer comes though more as a belgian strong, or even as a barleywine than anything else. copper to amber in color, mostly clear, and shoring over an inch of white head but it recedes rapidly. the nose is a combination of belgian yeasts (very fruity), mild rye spice, and alcohol, along with plenty of residual malt sweetness. the flavor is similar, with the yeast backing off just a little bit and the booze really cranking up. the sweetness is too much for me, i cant do even my half of a bomber of this, but i get the rye coming through a lot, which i love, and the apple spice yeast is pleasant as a flavor. this would be a better beer at 7% abv, i have no doubt in my mind at all about that. these beers have all been hit or miss for me, and this one is somewhere in between. i definitely wouldnt buy it again, but i cant rip it too hard either, i think they accomplished what they set out to do, its just a strange mission. if you want a curiously sweet booze bomb with some character, this is your horse.

Photo of MDHopster
3.88/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Wow, clear orange with translucent head. Aroma of rye, plenty of rye, probably offputting to those who are not rye fans. Tastes heavily of rye, I like rye, thus my score for taste, others may rate well below. Reminds me of Flying Dog's Raging Bitch with a boatload of rye. I see the "Belgian Rye IPA" label as fitting. No subtlety to the mouth feel, this is setup to feel like a double IPA. Appropriate for the type.

Photo of yarnbomb
4.4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Impressive- complex yet approachable. More please!

Photo of jmbranum
4.61/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Bought at Central Market in Fort Worth, Texas. Transported back to Oklahoma via Amtrak.

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber bottle into a large wine glass.

Pours a clear amber-orange clear liquid with smallish head. Gloriously good aroma with some citrus and vodka notes (the latter makes sense since this is 10% ABV).

Flavor is very rich and full. Some wine and liqueur notes. Some grapefruit, dates, raisins, some different grain (maybe some spicy rye), a tiny bit of maple syrup, all followed by a heavy dose of hops.

The best thing I could compare this to would be a meeting between a Belgian Trappist ale and an West coast style Pale Ale.

I really liked this. I want more! Very sad this is a one time offering.

L'chaim!

Photo of allengarvin
3.92/5  rDev +1.8%

A: 4.5 - Poured into a Bernardus chalice, this is a dark copper-amber beer with a substantial head, nearly an inch thick, dense, foamy.
S: 4 - Candy sweetness with lots of spicy phenols, peppery and clove-y.
T: 3.75 - Heavy malt dominates, the last thing I look for in either a Belgian or an IPA, quite sweet, though bitterness is ramped up to offset it. Ripely fruity, with alcohol apparent.
M: 4 - Big bodied, creamy
O: 3.5 - Too heavy for me, with not enough Belgianness in the flavor.

Weighting (percentages): 20, 20, 40, 5, 15. Avg: 3.92

Photo of HipCzech
4/5  rDev +3.9%

Serving: On tap at The Hay Merchant, poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance: Clear, copper brown. Thick, off-white head with nice fine lacing down the glass.

Smell: Malt, caramel a bit of spice and emerging Belgian yeast as it warms.

Taste: Full and malty with some sweet fruit (apples?) and honey. The rye, hops and Belgian yeast combine for an interesting mix of peppery spice. Nice dry, bitter finish.

Mouthfeel: Full, smooth mouthfeel with moderate carbonation.

Overall: Neither the rye, hops or Belgian yeast dominate, complementing each other nicely,

Photo of Slatetank
3.72/5  rDev -3.4%

I enjoyed this 12oz chilled in a teku, review from notes.

The color is ruddy amber with thick haze and 2 finger light cream with very fine bead and lace that sticks in spots. The smell has dark fruit and light floral scent mixed with toasted bready aroma and mild alcohol odor with dark berry ester and caramel with scents of dried fruit like raisin and a slight aroma of alochol. The feel is thick with sweet body and toasty strong texture with alcohol and light toasted accent with moderate bitterness and mildly sweet and boozy finish.

The taste is extremely alcohol dominant with slight fruity and dark caramel flavor with subtle stone fruit from the yeast and light pine earhty hop flavors with a subtle medicinal taste in the finish. This didn't live up to the original Lenny, I understand it is not even close to the same beer but there is too much fusel almost paint thinner quality and sweet malt and not enough hops in the taste

Photo of Pencible
3.58/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: This poured a nearly opaque dark copper with some thick tan head.
S: It smelled like sweet honey biscuit and earthy toffee, with some spicy rye and copper hops.
T: It tasted like bitter copper hops and spicy rye and Belgian yeast, with some sweet honey biscuit and earthy toffee. It had a clean bittersweet aftertaste.
M: It was thick with moderate carbonation. Nice full body.
D: This was a nice rye ale, but not as much of an IPA or Belgian. The scent and taste were enjoyable, and the body was great. The alcohol was well hidden, and the finish was smooth, so it was easy to drink. I wish it was hoppier, but it was still a good drink.

Photo of Mitchster
4.61/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Purchased as part of the 2013 gift pack.
Brewed with specialty 2-row, rye ale malt, torrified rye, crystal rye 75, crystal malt 80, wheat, kiln amber, and caramunich 60. Hopped with Warrior, Cascade, Simcoe, Crystal, Chinook and Centennial. Dry hopped with Simcoe, Amarillo and Crystal.
10% ABV.
Pours out to a slightly hazy medium amber, forming a large creamy yellow head with amazing retention and one solid thick sticky sheet of lace. Carbonation is moderate. The nose is immediately very hop fruity...I get tangerines, apricots, pineapple and grapefruit sitting on top of a subtle toast note. Reminds me a bit of a great ESB with that apricot jam on toast nose. Mouthfeel is smooth as silk with a huge sticky body. The taste is fantastic. Very hop forward up front, balanced beautifully with with the tropical notes from the yeast, all sitting on top of the toasty sticky malt body and with a well balanced spicy bitterness which lingers on the tongue long after it goes down the pipe. The yeast is well attenuated, not finishing completely dry, but not syrupy sweet, just perfect. A testament to the brewers craft here, my friends.

Highly recommend, this is fantastic stuff. Not being a big fan of Belgian IPA's, this blows all those out of the water. Yummy. Get some!

Photo of leaddog
4.12/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - Pours a deep copper colour with two fingers of foamy beige head that falls over the glass.

Smell - Belgian yeast (clove, spices, banana), rye, tropical fruit, citrus hops.

Taste - Rye malts and citrus hops are well-balanced with the spicy flavours of the Belgian yeast and hint of tropical fruits. Belgian yeast is at just the right level and does not overpower the malt and hop flavours.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation and pleasant stickiness.

Overall - A harmonious blend of flavours and ingredients. This Belgian yeast strain is complementary to the rye malts and hops in this brew, and by no means overpower.

Photo of clayrock81
3.85/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured a reddish brown body with massive head and lace. First thing that hits me is booze and rye, some caramel and breadlike malt notes, a little bit of dark fruit (or at least fruit) and a touch of hops. Full bodied, chewy, boozy, a nice smoothness from plenty of rye and a little woody. I like this beer, especially some caramel/toffee sweetness, but all the malts seem to overpower the spices and citric hops so it's not well-balanced and the hops really only come off as bitter in the finish.

Photo of sprucetip
3.97/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Good looker. A solid finger of beige foam sits on top of fluid of undetermined color. It varies greatly depending on how the light hits it. It ranges from chestnut to reddish to amber to golden depending on the light.

The Belgian yeasty funk leads, and might actually be the cause of scent I usually call “grainy.” Boozy heat and esters are the next strongest element, and citrusy hops are hard to find. Not bad, but it doesn’t really gel well. Try as I might, I am not finding any caramel, though I am pretty sure it is in there.

Yeasty Belgian character is clear and so is the caramel malty flavor and sweetness I couldn’t find in the nose. Modest hop bitterness joins citrusy hop flavor through the middle, and then some piny bitterness emerges. Smooth, and reminds me of regular Lenny’s, only with a funky Belgian twist. Nice. It’s solid. Very good.

Plenty enough carbonated. Rich full body, noticeable warming, and some lingering bitterness after the finish. Dries out a wee bit in the finish.

Very good if not quite exceptional. Well, if I made it I might be inclined to think it exceptional…I am a big fan of regular Lenny’s, so I had to try this one too. As much as I appreciate the effort, and enjoy character Belgian yeast adds, I think I like regular Lenny’s better. But I don’t regret having had this one, and very well may have it again. My reluctance is that I am buying fewer bombers these days, as the price per ounce is typically so much higher than for smaller bottles. This is a good beer, and if you have bothered to read this far I suggest you try it.

Photo of socon67
3.91/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

A - Amber to brown pour. Opaque look with a clingy tan foam head. Slight carbonation is noted.

S - Scents of malt, cherries, Belgian yeast, toffee, and candy sugar. By far one of the oddest and most interesting combinations I've come across.

T - This is a rye beer? The fresh rye taste is there but is dwarfed by a strong sweet malt flavor. Cherry cordial is there which ends in a slight boozy finish.

M - Slick feel and has a raspy bite. Light feel. The richness of flavors did not make me feel like I'd have more than one.

O - Interesting beer and one I'd go back to. A nice example of what's possible when a brewer goes beyond conventional boundaries.

Photo of mactrail
3.8/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Swig from the bottle and it's like a cold steel barrel between your lips. This is a big mouthful of fighting flavors. Beautiful copper-tinged golden color with a nice head in the Morte Subite globe. Sudsy light mouthfeel with a hint of menace in the sweet hot alcohol. Fruity and vanilla aromas.

This needs a scorecard to check off all the flavors. It's a little boozy, very sweet, grainy, hot, bitter, and woody. Rather astringent after some sipping. Deep tongue-numbing barrel woodiness. Burnt sugar with a whiskey chaser. Or maybe a barley wine Depth Charge with a jigger of orange bitters. Actually this grows more likeable, I have to keep upping my score, but it's a challenging brew.

The grainy taste seems intensified by the heat. Moderately bitter as you sip, but the aftertaste bites back. I'd call it more of an IPA than a Belgian, though it is rather sweet followed by the dry tongue-wringing experience.

Aftertaste is bitter as Lenny Bruce. However, for the hop fiend, this has much to offer. From the 22 oz bottle purchased at Bottlecraft in San Diego.

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.38/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a He'brew small shaker pint. Pours a reddish bronze amber with a half finger fine off-white head with great retention and lots of lacing. Nice aroma of tropical fruit, rye, grassy, mildly piney hops, Belgian yeast and hints of citrus. Flavor is hop forward with good citrus and piney hops, rye with light rye sourness, stone and tropical fruit, finishing with surprising clove and earth spices, and piney hop bitterness. Medium bodied with mild creaminess. A glorious semi-sweet hop forward imperial rye beer, bordering on barleywine territory. Very enjoyable. Got this in the 2013 Chanukah Pack, but wish I could have purchased a few bottles to cellar, I think this would keep improving with age. I did not see this in individual bottles in my area, but will be searching it out now. I'm becoming more and more a fan of strong rye beers and this is one of the better ones.

Photo of biboergosum
3.78/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle. A nice play on words for the name, given the Lenny's RIPA base beer, and the Belgian aspirations of this offering. This must be one of the most involved, cross-pollinated beer 'styles' that I've ever encountered. Weird soccer-ball imagery frames the nascent St. Lenny on the label.

This beer pours a somewhat hazy, yet bright medium bronzed amber hue, with two fingers of puffy, tightly foamy, and eventually creamy ecru head, which leaves some decent pock-marked mesa formation lace around the glass as it slowly and surely bleeds off.

It smells of muddled creamy citrus, gritty rye and caramel malt, sharp, acrid Belgian yeast, and further leafy, earthy hops. The taste is rather pungent and edgy yeast right up front, aided and abetted by a hollow, indistinct dry citrus and orchard drupe fruit pithiness, biscuity caramel malt, wet, and lightly spicy rye bread, acerbic pine resin, white pepper, and somewhat extraneous, put-upon leafy, earthy hops.

The carbonation is rather soft, a touch fluffy, and generally just low-key frothy, the body an adequate medium weight, and hard to justify as smooth, with all the yeast and hop astringency wafting about. It finishes barely off-dry, the spicy rye malt, yeast, pine needles, and denatured citrus doing well enough to ward off any of the expected encroaching booze notes.

As if the rye malt wasn't enough of a subtle palate and mindfuck when originally dealing with this big-ass He'Brew DIPA, now I 'have' to see this otherwise heady brew taken through its paces by a sassy, somewhat unwelcome Belgian yeastiness. Like the drawn-out name foretold, there's just too much going on here, so much so that I'm starting to lose my enthusiasm for such things. Or maybe I'm still grouchy that this newfound 'contract-free' brewery's sales group saw fit to send us this, and not the Jewbelation 17. Booo-urns.

Photo of jeffjeff1
3.73/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Appearance- dark red color, thick foamy head

Smell- malt, hops, rye

Taste- hops, rye

Mouthfeel- medium bodied

Drinkability- I thought this was very good. I would definitely drink it again. I really like those rye beers. The rye and hops goes together nicely.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.74/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a murky dark orange with a foamy khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Foamy rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, rye, citrus zest, and Belgian yeast aromas. Taste is much the same with sweet malt, spicy rye, and Belgian yeast flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop and rye bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with a nice mix of Belgian yeast and rye qualities all around.

Photo of VincentFrey
3.44/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pour / Appearance: 12oz variety pack bottle into a Deschutes tulip. Low carbonation on the pour, but the head stays around forever. Sorta an off-white, beige or eggshell if I chose paint samples. Ruby and slightly copper body, with carb bubbles rising up for a good period. Surprised to see this is 10% for the head and retention there. Not a bad thing, just a note.

Aroma: I can smell it from my end table to my armchair. Closer inspection yields a good bit of rye heat and character, some muted alcohols, and a lot of bittering hops. Not incredibly aromatic, but some floral hops present themselves. It's mostly rye here, with some hints of belgian yeast (pepper, bit of clove).

Taste: This a big one. Much more of a Belgian character now, with banana and bubble gum being big flavors. Sorachi Ace as well, maybe? Big alcohol heat accentuated by the rye. Peppercorn, some light tart notes. I feel like the IPA aspect is lost in here; bittering alone does not an IPA make, and this drinks more like an American barleywine than a DIPA. I'd actually be very interested to have a bottle with some age on it, particularly if (and I don't believe this is by the clarity and fullness of my pour) bottle conditioned.

Overall: A nice barleywine (rye-wine) that's kinda confused at what it's going for. Can't beat the variety pack price, but I'd only really come back to this once the alcohol heat dies down with some proper cellaring.

Bottom Line: I don't know if this comes outside the variety pack. A 12oz bottle is more than enough, and it's not going to be what you're expecting. Still, no reason to avoid the pack.

Photo of russpowell
3.48/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Picked this up in Wichita

Pours copper colored with a sliver of cream colored head. Good head retention & average lacing

S: Pears, treacle, white grapes

T: Pears, leafy hops, treacle sweetness & orange peel up front. Some peppery rye shows as this warms, a bit of marmalade as well. Hints of grapefruit in the finish, along with leafy hops, a touch of booze & orange peel

MF: Firm carbonation, medium bodied, skews a little bitter to me

This was drinkable enough, but not something I'd buy again

Photo of inlimbo77
3.06/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

32oz growler, filled and drank 12/6/13
Tulip

A: Deep reddish brown orange. Fuzzy off white frothy head. Leaves a little lacing. Carbonation still there.

S: Initially all malts. Very barley wine like. Caramel. Sweet toffee. Maybe cardboard.

T: Strange. Weird bitterness. Very malty. Anise flavors. Malty as hell. Doesn't taste like DIPA. Finish has lingering strange flavors.

M: Bigger medium. Like I said bwine like.

Photo of rapidsequence
3.99/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

22 oz bottle I bought at Total Wine in NoVA.

Appearance: Excellent clarity. A deep, dark orange color, almost reddish. Head is off white, substantial, with excellent retention and lacing.

Smell: Tons of fruity Belgian esters and a strong, almost brown sugar-like sweet malt aroma. Separating hops smells from the esters is tough because this is all fruity hops. The spicy rye is detectable, but doesnt overpower.

Taste: Very nice combination of flavors here. Again, very pronounced fruity esters, even a little bubblegum. Tropical and citrus hops and considerable bitterness. Very big and sweet malt backbone, again heading toward brown sugar. Rye is spicy and it goes well with the bitter finish.

Mouthfeel: Sticky and full for a double ipa which it claims to be. Its almost barleywine like in the mouth. Dry finish though.

Overall: Its a really big, really flavorful beer with added complexity from the rye and Belgian yeast. Honestly, this would drink better at around 8% I think, but pretty damn good as is.

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He'Brew / Cathedral Square St. Lenny's from Shmaltz Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 189 ratings.