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Saxonator Dunkles Doppelbock - Jack's Abby Brewing

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BA SCORE
89
very good

301 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 301
Reviews: 50
rAvg: 3.99
pDev: 8.52%
Wants: 30
Gots: 28 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Jack's Abby Brewing visit their website
Massachusetts, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: taez555 on 12-16-2011

A dark strong interpretation of a double bock. Full bodied with a raisiny, dark fruit, slightly roasted and chewy malt character. Lagered for two months, a smooth malt character balances the high ABV of this strong beer.

25 IBU
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Ratings: 301 | Reviews: 50
Reviews by LeRose:
Photo of LeRose
3.83/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottled, no date found. Poured a deep amber color into a lager glass. About two fingers of beige head. Slightly cloudy. Nice lacing on the glass. Smell is earthy, malty, yeasty almost bread like. Not picking up any fruity aromas, maybe some caramel and toffee type notes. Taste is smooth malty sweet with slight bitterness. The word silky comes to mind. Nutty, a little bready, definitely earthy, and yeast character. Some acidity, maybe a hint of raisin or date notes. Very clean on the palate, light to medium body. Carbonation is moderate. Some aftertaste of sweetness once I finished the bottle - seemed to build up some. Very smooth, balanced, and drinkable even with the alcohol. Seems well hidden to me. Enjoyable, sure wish there was more than on bottle left on shelf.

More User Reviews:
Photo of tigg924
3.67/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: orange brown in color, 3/4 inch head, hazy, high carbonation

Smell: deep caramel, alcohol, and deep dark fruit

Taste: deep caramel, alcohol, light roasted malt, and dark fruit

Mouthfeel: medium bodied, medium-high carbonation, sweet with slight bitterness

Overall: Good combination of sweet caramel with a touch of bitterness. Excellent value for the price. I will pick this up again even though there are others I prefer in the style.

Photo of CloudStrife
4.12/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

16.9 oz bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a clear dark copper with an ample light cream head. Average amount of visible carbonation.

S: Initial aroma is dark fruits such as raisin or plum with a mix of roasted and sweet malts. Real fermented fruit sort of aroma going on here with that touch of booze in the backend.

T: Balanced and very well done dopplebock. Malt is quite rich giving you both roastiness and a carmel sweetness. Low hopping which is appropriate for the style. Hints of raisin, plum and chocolate but don't overwhelm just blend nicely with the malts. Alcohol is well hidden.

M: Smooth body with low carbonation. Has a nice creaminess giving it a full body. Remains quite easy drinking considering the ABV.

Overall this one is very true to the style and a great example of a finely crafted lager. All the flavors meld nicely together and deliver a solid beer.

Photo of hreb
3.71/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Half liter bottle served in pint glass. Beer is reddish brown in color with a moderate tan foam. Rich malt aroma typical of the style: sweet but powerful. Flavorwise I think this hits a bunch of really nice notes. You get the typical malt bomb of a dopelbock, but first you get the nutty roasted malt flavor of an American Nut Brown, and afterwards you get a pleasant hop bitterness. I can't believe this is only 25 IBUs. The alcohol (9%) plays off the bitterness really well and you get finish which isn't at all clean, but it is tasty. There's even a little bit of sweet dark chocolate in there. This is a rough, aggressive style, but Framingham's finest have made a totally worthwhile offering.

Note that the label clearly uses the Americanized (Saxonized?) spelling "Dopplebock".

Photo of Roguer
4.31/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Very, very dark - but translucent and sparkly - brownish-coppery brew, topped with a sizable light beige head. Fantastic retention.

Very nice Doppelbock aroma: subdued, but strong up close, yielding notes of pepper and dark bread; figs and raisins; caramel and toffee; banana esters.

Flavor follows: fruitbread in a glass. Prunes and brown sugar up front; banana, vanilla, and bread in the middle; cloying sweetness, cola, and alcohol tinge on the finish.

Sharp, lively mouthfeel. Long, sticky wet finish. Medium thickness, but full bodied flavor.

This really is an excellent Doppelbock, one of the only US versions I'd say are worthy of pairing up against the German stalwarts of the genre. There are zero unpleasant flavors; the entire thing comes together smoothly, easily incorporating a high ABV recipe into a very drinkable package.

Photo of alexbutler
4.44/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A - A deep, smoky red after the first pour. The foam quickly dissipates and you're left with a dark amber beer.

S - Full bodied aroma of raisins. As advertised, you can tell there's a lot of time behind this beer. 'Lagered for two months"... and it's obvious. Very nice.

T - Muted carbonation compliments the malt very well. Sweet and delicious.

M - Packs a punch while not being overwhelming. Lingers and hangs with you well after a sip.

O - Exactly what I was looking for to compliment a roasted potato and steak supper. The high ABV certainly sneaks up on you... very tasty beer.

Photo of HookerBrews
4.11/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: I poured this from a bottle into a Dogfish pint glass. The beer pours a lovely, dark, amber-red color. Despite being unfiltered, the beer is crystal clear. The head is tan, pours frothy, retains nicely, and has little lacing. It's a beautiful lager with a lot to say for itself before even tasting it.

Smell: The aroma has notes of molasses, fresh black bread, a subtle note of banana bread, with a slight touch of alcohol. It smells like a pristine doppelbock and also has a few hints of dark fruit and raisins.

Taste: This brew has a wonderful warm, dark, and a deep flavor profile. I get notes of coffee liqeuer, banana bread, and butter cookie on the front. These flavors give way to dark, roasty tastes of grain and raisins and then leaves a smoky aftertaste reminiscent of a porter. There is almost no hint of the high ABV and the beer warms you nicely. Perfect for a cold winter night in New England.

Mouthfeel: I would say the beer has a medium heavy body with a good bit of chewiness. It goes down so smoothly for a strong beer.

Overall: I'm starting a journey through the Jack's Abbey offerings and this is a wonderful example of what they are capable of. The Saxonator is deep, dark, roasty, complex, and smooth. There was clearly a lot of attention to detail in crafting this brew and it strikes me as an awesome rendition of a dopplebock. Overall, an excellent beer from an excellent, local brewery.

Photo of Sensaray
4.19/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Appearance is a clean dark brown amber color with minimal head, but still has remnants of it throughout
Dark fruit, raisins, alcohol, inviting smell, not overly powerful though
Dark fruit still prominent in the flavors, with possible sweet hints at caramel and maybe chocolate, do sense the raisiny side, good spice element
Full bodied beer, smooth drinking for the abv with a slightly dry finish
Overall very tasty beer

Photo of logicalparadox
3.75/5  rDev -6%

When a doppelbock is this big, it feels like a stout!

A: Huge head with nice retention. Deep, dark color, looks roasty and intense. Leaves nice lacing in the glass. Will make others jealous.

S: Nose follows the eye; with roasty, espresso notes. Lots of deep, earthy goodness, with some dark chocolate, and hints of molasses and dark fruits. You could be fooled into believing this was a porter or a stout, but it doesn't lose its character as a doppelbock.

T: Coffee, dark, espresso roast, with subtle dark fruits and a bit of twang like malt vinegar in the finish. Lots to contemplate. Very rich. Raisins. Big raisins! And molasses, reminding me of gingerbread cookie dough.

M: chewy, thick, rich, and full bodied. Coats the glass and the pallet. Big beer. Surprisingly smooth and easy drinking.

Overall, ranks up there with the best of breed doppelbocks for me (Celebrator and Optimator)!

Photo of metter98
3.98/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: The beer is clear but ver dark amber in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a short off white head that died down and left a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light aromas of raisins are present in the nose along with some hints of brown bread.
T: Just like the smell, the taste has flavors of raisins with malty sweetness and notes of brown bread.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied and smooth on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is like liquid bread and is very filling and nourishing, but is still rather easy to drink because any traces of alcohol are well hidden from the taste.

Serving type: bottle

Photo of cbutova
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I have had this one a few times on-tap but somehow haven't gotten around to reviewing it.

A- Poured from the 500ml bottle to a deep snifter which seems appropriate for a 9% Doppelbock like this. The body itself is super dark brown and opaque. A frothy, foamy light tan head rises to two fingers and eventually falls to a thick ring, good retention. Lacing starts out spotty but dies out after a few sips.

S- Malts make up a bulk of the aroma which satisfies the style. The grains lend a significant base of Brown toasted notes as well as caramel, fresh cracked grain dust and some roastiness. Beyond that are hints of dark fruits like raisin, plum and fig.

T- Rich and satisfying maltyness paired with strong underlying yeast tones. Malt base reminds me of an American Brown Ale with notes of toast, caramel sweetness, cocoa, slight roast, brown sugar and cereal grains. Bock yeast provides a balance to the grains with a raisin, fig and dark fruit presence.

MF- Medium bodied with a texture right between foamy and creamy with a slight chewy oily feel to it. Carbonation is moderate but extremely smooth because of the texture. Slight alcohol warming in the finish.

Great contributions from both the rich malts and fruity yeast here as they combine to create an enjoyable Doppelbock. The 9% feels appropriate but I like the edge it provides with the toasted grains and dark fruit notes. Provides what I look for in a solid Doppelbock and I will surely have this again.

Photo of ppoitras
4.37/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

16.9oz bottle purchased as a single from Adams Hometown Market, Monson, MA.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1 1/2" tan head over the clear coppery brown brew. Head holds on admirably, with lasting lace. Aroma is nutty and spicy.

Taste continues the nose, nutty upfront, a peek of fruit in the middle, with chocolate and balanced bitterness through the close. Amazingly smooth mouthfeel, and so easily drinkable. Warming does creep up on you slowly. A great brew.

Photo of TaylorGates
4.27/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: Very Nice dark Red Amber color, nice lacing with the head, overall just a very pretty beer.

Smell: Alot of Molasses, dark fruit, chard bread, roasted malt, little alcohol smell in there as well

Taste: Roasted malt, banana bread, Raisins, roasted caramel, There is a lot going on in this beer very deep flavors that come together very nicely, I can't taste any of the alcohol in this 9% beer, the leftover taste is almost like a perfectly burnt buttery sugar cookie very enjoyable

Mouthfeel: medium to heavy body, very chew, Low to medium carbonation and a bubbly sweet-syrupy mouth-feel that make this high ABV beer very easy to drink

Overall: This is a great American dopplebock. I would hold this up to some of the better German Dopplebocks

Photo of predikit
3.58/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark caramel color, leaves a small light beige head that recedes quickly. Leaves minimal lacing on the glass.

Smells slightly smokey, oak notes, vanilla.

Taste is balanced, fairly sweet, a fig like dark fruit start, toasted malts come through in the middle, finishes with vanilla and a slight alcohol burn.

Medium bodied, smooth and creamy.

Not the best I've had from them, but decent.

Photo of jlindros
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a lighter fizzy 1/4 finger head that fades semi quickly, over dark ruby maroon brown colored beer with hints of ruby light coming through.

Nose has a bit of booze to kick it off (as this is poured at about 55-60 deg F, some typical esters assosciated with it. Then comes the malts, plenty of dark wheat like aromas and brown malts, a bit of a molasses and caramel like sweetness, bits of dried fruit, a slight biscuity malt aroma, and some light lager crispness.

Taste starts with darker malts actually, a dark malty flavor with a light cocoa and come caramel flavors, hint of molasses, and dark wheat flavors. Then the fruits, with light dried fig and date, fluffy and rich though. A little bit of booze comes through, warming at first but gets slightly tingly, with a touch of esters as well. I even get hints of spices like a cinnamon a little nutty like. The full body feels like it's melting in my mouth which is an interesting touch. A very slight hint of chocolate covered brandy soaked raisin adds a nice touch as it moves towards the malty finish. It stays a bit sweet on the finish, sticky as well, with more lingering malts, dark fruits, touch of cocoa, and some booze tingle.

Mouth is full bodied, decent carb, and some warming and tingly booze, but a bit sticky on the finish.

Overall pretty good, again haven't had a bad beer by them. This doesn't hint full on for most doppelbocks but a pretty good representation. Nice malts, fruits, plenty of booze which is one thing that is lacking in most doppelbocks, a full body with a lager crispness, and even some hints of darker malts like chocolate and crystal.

Photo of SportsandJorts
3.79/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: pours a lighter brownish color, with huge ruby highlights. extremely clear and bright. a finger of an off white head that fades very quickly and leaves nothing behind

Smell: raisins, caramel and some light roastiness. noticeable noble hop character but not overwhelming. over all is malty and dark without being overly roasty

Taste: opens up with raisins and caramel. a very light roasted character in the background. more raisins and maybe some prunes. ends with a moderate noble hop character. Occasionally some alcohol but never overpowering. lots of clean lager yeast character.

Mouthfeel: chewy and full. balance leans sweet but does have some bitterness to it. a little bit of warmth to it.

Overall: Probably the most spot on interpretation of the style that ive seen in an american brewed doppelbock, only missing a better head retention. But overall I prefer less hop character and an overly sweet balance. I think ill save my other bottle for a while and see what happens

Photo of WunderLlama
4/5  rDev +0.3%

Bottle poured into chalice

Deep ruby brown, clear with carbonation. Pours a taupe one finger bubbly foam cap.

Aroma of raisins, winey,

First sip, taste of sweet malt on the middle of the tongue , light espresso roast. Second sip, taste of raisin and feel of the alcohol. Check the label and this is 9% abv.

Smooth, good sudsing, chewy sweet malt, medium body, clean finish.

Good beer, made in America, but Optimator or Celebrator still reigns supreme in this style of beer.

Photo of smcolw
3.63/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thick lasting head that leaves a solid ring of lace after every sip. Dark amber with ruby overtones. Mild haze.

Mild smell of light crystal malts and floral hop. No alcohol aroma as I would normally expect.

Malt start with a spicy (not hoppy) finish. Sweet without being cloy, the taste has several distinct stages: after the sweetness comes a warming alcohol moment that gives way to the bite of alcohol burn in the swallow. The spice steps forward as black and white pepper. The aftertaste is surprisingly brief, but the warmth (from the alcohol) lingers on.

Photo of davey101
3.91/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

November 2012 batch, 500 ml bottle into a tulip glass.

A - Pours a clear dark red body. Lots of khaki foam, thick edging with minimal lacing.

S - Caramel, dates, sweet brown sugar and malty bread. A bit of spice and booze on the end.

T - Dark fruit and caramel, spices, toasted malts, brown sugar. Syrupy sweet, a touch of booze on the end.

M - Thick and creamy, medium bodied with nice carbonation.

O - A very solid doppelbock. Not quite at the level of an Ayinger, but quite solid.

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.12/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle opened on 7.30.13
Bottled November 2012

A - Pours a clear, very dark orange-almost brown, wieht a one inch light tan head with good retention.

S - Caramel, raisin, dark fruits, roasted malts.

T - Caramel, toasted bread, raisins.

D - Good carbonation with a medium body.

O - Good caramel, fruit, hard to believe this is a lager.

Photo of Maxwell
3.8/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a dark and raisiny brown with light ruby notes and a big old light cream head that sticks around with light tight knit bubbles that are replenished rapidly. The beers body appears lager clean, but dark and fairly opaque. The lacing is medium width, sticky, and wall-like across the glass. On the nose, the beer smells of spicy raisins. Thick caramel malts are also present and slightly chewy alcohol. The caramel malts even turn a little roasted as you swirl the beer in your glass. The beer tastes surprisingly suppressed with spicy raisin and alcohol and light grainy cereal. The beer begins with spicy cereal notes before transitioning into sweet raisin and slight caramel and a quick burst of spicy alcohol before the tastes turns again to grainy cereal malts and slight biscuit and the faintest hint of roast malt and bacon. As the beer warms up and I drink it further I get more and more of a feeling of slight rauchbier characteristics in it, similar to Smoke & Dagger. On the mouth, the beer feels thick and chewy, and hits the stomach similarly. The mouth is left clean except for a slight scrim of spittle that wets the mouth for another sip. Overall this is a fairly decent dopplebock from Jack’s Abby. They hide the alcohol very well, but the thickness of the beer makes it a sipper (obviously…). It’s chewy and tasty, but it really doesn’t standout flavor-wise outside of the faint hints of rauchbier. It’s a good example of the style with some slight variations to add a “Jack’s Abby-flair” to it. A good beer for sure, and another wonderful offering from Jack’s Abby.

Photo of Damian
3.58/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Drank from a 1 pt. 6 fl. oz. bottle purchased at Berman's Wine & Spirits, Lexington, MA
Served in a pilsner glass

Crystal clear and dark mahogany in appearance. The liquid was topped by a tight, one-finger, light tan head. Drippy rings of lacing trickled down glass. The head faded to a clingy halo of froth.

The nose was pretty typical for a doppelbock. Nutty and slightly fruity with a stiff, toasted malt base. Crisp and smooth. A mild, sulfury, lager-like quality was noticeable. Fairly mild overall. As the beer warmed, the nose turned sweeter. The malts and the fruity notes also came out a bit more.

The flavor profile was similar to the aroma. Biscuity, toasty malts were apparent. Nutty and moderately fruity. Some booziness came through on the back end but for a 9% ABV beer it was rather well contained. The finish was surprisingly hoppy. Crisp and dry. The hops were earthy and herbal and they lent a good dose of bitterness to the beer but not a lot of flavor. Strong, resiny hops lingered on my palate long after the beer was finished.

The mouthfeel was medium bodied. Slick, creamy and smooth with a medium amount of carbonation. The beer felt light and frothy on my palate, but it still had a good amount of heft to it.

Jack's Abby produces some terrific beers, but this one was simply mediocre. I wish they could have kicked it up another notch, like they do with their other offerings.

Photo of johnnnniee
4.02/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a slightly chill hazed reddish brown color with a fluffy beige head that persists forever. Caramel, molasses, dark burnt sugars and dark dried fruits, its a malt heads wet dream. Very light aromas of earthy hop provides almost no balance. The flavor is malty and rich with all of the aforementioned aromas playing a part in the flavor. Heavy molasses with a hint of smoke dominates the flavor while the other tastes add character. Rich sweet and frigging smooth. Medium to thick body with a moderate level of carbonation and a sweet bubbly syrupy mouthfeel. Great Americanized version of a dopplebock.

Photo of dar482
4.01/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

The beer comes in a dark reddish mahogany color.

The aroma is very fruit forward and different for the style. It has rummy raisins, plums figs, cherries. An obvious lager yeast. A breadiness and candy sweetness as well.

The flavor follows with those fruits in the front. There’s a light brown sugar and caramel sweetness in the middle. It’s not a sweet beer for the style, nor is it big on toasty bready notes that is familiar of other doppelbocks. There’s a mineral lager yeast note throughout. In the finish, there’s a huge breadiness of rugbrød. It has this substantial, dense rye and whole wheat breadiness instead of doughiness that most Americans are familiar with.

It is different for the style without the big sweet bready and toasty malts, but instead with lots of fruit flavors. The alcohol is dangerously well hidden and it is still delicious.

Photo of ms11781
3.71/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled December 2012. 500ml bottle poured into an imperial pint glass.

Pours somewhere in between a deep amber and a muddy brown color. There are some nice orange/amber tones along the sides and bottom of the glass that make it lean toward deep amber when held up too the light. The beer looks opaque in the glass except for the far edges on each side. A decent head develops, probably a half in or so of off white foam, before it settles as thin cap. The lacing matches the head as it's fairly good at first with a nice ring of foam before tapering of and leaving a thin ring here and there.

The nose seems quite subdued, especially for a big doppelbock. There is some sweet caramel and a nutty note to it but there doesn't seem to be much depth to it. As the beer warms there is a yeasty characteristics that comes through along with a slight hint of dark fruit.

The taste is definitely a step up from the nose. The sweet caramel is definitely a leading flavor but the nuttiness and the dark fruit are better represented. It's bready and toast and even has a bit of a roasted note to it. The flavors come out a bit more as the beer warms, perhaps it was a touch too cold, but even then some of them are fleeting.

The mouthfeel is pretty big relative to a doppelbock but not really that big overall. Definitely full but not huge. Low to medium carbonation makes the beer incredibly smooth. The smoothness sort of keeps the beer together and helps the more subtle flavors to come across as they do.

I'm not too sure how I feel about this beer. I have had it in the past on draft and back then it felt like a monster, inching into quad-like territory. This bottled version seems far more tame. The flavors and aromas are nice but there isn't anything that draws you in and makes you want more.

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Saxonator Dunkles Doppelbock from Jack's Abby Brewing
89 out of 100 based on 301 ratings.