Saxonator Dunkles Doppelbock - Jack's Abby Brewing

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Reviews: 51
Hads: 314
rAvg: 4.03
pDev: 8.19%
Wants: 31
Gots: 27 | FT: 0
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Massachusetts, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: taez555 on 12-16-2011

A dark strong interpretation of a double bock. Full bodied with a raisiny, dark fruit, slightly roasted and chewy malt character. Lagered for two months, a smooth malt character balances the high ABV of this strong beer.

25 IBU
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Photo of josanguapo
2.64/5  rDev -34.5%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

From zombier. In Paulaner glass. Playing Memoria. Althought its not a style I like, i have to recognize that its good in its style because I find it drinkable (158 characters)

Photo of predikit
3.58/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark caramel color, leaves a small light beige head that recedes quickly. Leaves minimal lacing on the glass.

Smells slightly smokey, oak notes, vanilla.

Taste is balanced, fairly sweet, a fig like dark fruit start, toasted malts come through in the middle, finishes with vanilla and a slight alcohol burn.

Medium bodied, smooth and creamy.

Not the best I've had from them, but decent. (400 characters)

Photo of Damian
3.58/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Drank from a 1 pt. 6 fl. oz. bottle purchased at Berman's Wine & Spirits, Lexington, MA
Served in a pilsner glass

Crystal clear and dark mahogany in appearance. The liquid was topped by a tight, one-finger, light tan head. Drippy rings of lacing trickled down glass. The head faded to a clingy halo of froth.

The nose was pretty typical for a doppelbock. Nutty and slightly fruity with a stiff, toasted malt base. Crisp and smooth. A mild, sulfury, lager-like quality was noticeable. Fairly mild overall. As the beer warmed, the nose turned sweeter. The malts and the fruity notes also came out a bit more.

The flavor profile was similar to the aroma. Biscuity, toasty malts were apparent. Nutty and moderately fruity. Some booziness came through on the back end but for a 9% ABV beer it was rather well contained. The finish was surprisingly hoppy. Crisp and dry. The hops were earthy and herbal and they lent a good dose of bitterness to the beer but not a lot of flavor. Strong, resiny hops lingered on my palate long after the beer was finished.

The mouthfeel was medium bodied. Slick, creamy and smooth with a medium amount of carbonation. The beer felt light and frothy on my palate, but it still had a good amount of heft to it.

Jack's Abby produces some terrific beers, but this one was simply mediocre. I wish they could have kicked it up another notch, like they do with their other offerings. (1,409 characters)

Photo of smcolw
3.63/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thick lasting head that leaves a solid ring of lace after every sip. Dark amber with ruby overtones. Mild haze.

Mild smell of light crystal malts and floral hop. No alcohol aroma as I would normally expect.

Malt start with a spicy (not hoppy) finish. Sweet without being cloy, the taste has several distinct stages: after the sweetness comes a warming alcohol moment that gives way to the bite of alcohol burn in the swallow. The spice steps forward as black and white pepper. The aftertaste is surprisingly brief, but the warmth (from the alcohol) lingers on. (564 characters)

Photo of OtherShoe2
3.66/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours dark amber with a sticky cream-colred head. Reduced to a ring with some lace.

Dry malt aromas. Nothing else. Blind test I could not tell you this is a doppelbock.

Don't trust your nose. Rich dark burnt sugars. Dark fruit, cane syrup, and firm bitterness in the toasted malt that dries out at the end. Nice, but not super complex.

Fuller bodied. Some carbonation.

Drinkable doppelbock with some simplicity. Worth a try, but not even close to most German versions. (472 characters)

Photo of tigg924
3.67/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: orange brown in color, 3/4 inch head, hazy, high carbonation

Smell: deep caramel, alcohol, and deep dark fruit

Taste: deep caramel, alcohol, light roasted malt, and dark fruit

Mouthfeel: medium bodied, medium-high carbonation, sweet with slight bitterness

Overall: Good combination of sweet caramel with a touch of bitterness. Excellent value for the price. I will pick this up again even though there are others I prefer in the style. (451 characters)

Photo of hreb
3.71/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Half liter bottle served in pint glass. Beer is reddish brown in color with a moderate tan foam. Rich malt aroma typical of the style: sweet but powerful. Flavorwise I think this hits a bunch of really nice notes. You get the typical malt bomb of a dopelbock, but first you get the nutty roasted malt flavor of an American Nut Brown, and afterwards you get a pleasant hop bitterness. I can't believe this is only 25 IBUs. The alcohol (9%) plays off the bitterness really well and you get finish which isn't at all clean, but it is tasty. There's even a little bit of sweet dark chocolate in there. This is a rough, aggressive style, but Framingham's finest have made a totally worthwhile offering.

Note that the label clearly uses the Americanized (Saxonized?) spelling "Dopplebock". (784 characters)

Photo of ms11781
3.71/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled December 2012. 500ml bottle poured into an imperial pint glass.

Pours somewhere in between a deep amber and a muddy brown color. There are some nice orange/amber tones along the sides and bottom of the glass that make it lean toward deep amber when held up too the light. The beer looks opaque in the glass except for the far edges on each side. A decent head develops, probably a half in or so of off white foam, before it settles as thin cap. The lacing matches the head as it's fairly good at first with a nice ring of foam before tapering of and leaving a thin ring here and there.

The nose seems quite subdued, especially for a big doppelbock. There is some sweet caramel and a nutty note to it but there doesn't seem to be much depth to it. As the beer warms there is a yeasty characteristics that comes through along with a slight hint of dark fruit.

The taste is definitely a step up from the nose. The sweet caramel is definitely a leading flavor but the nuttiness and the dark fruit are better represented. It's bready and toast and even has a bit of a roasted note to it. The flavors come out a bit more as the beer warms, perhaps it was a touch too cold, but even then some of them are fleeting.

The mouthfeel is pretty big relative to a doppelbock but not really that big overall. Definitely full but not huge. Low to medium carbonation makes the beer incredibly smooth. The smoothness sort of keeps the beer together and helps the more subtle flavors to come across as they do.

I'm not too sure how I feel about this beer. I have had it in the past on draft and back then it felt like a monster, inching into quad-like territory. This bottled version seems far more tame. The flavors and aromas are nice but there isn't anything that draws you in and makes you want more. (1,801 characters)

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.73/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A-Pours a heated copper color. Clear body, no blemishes. Slow, sporadic bubble ascension. Head is a darling. An inch-high pillow of composed fluff. Leaves rocky lacing.

S-Yeast hits first. Very noticeable. Then comes the Pumpernickel bread and whipped chocolate. A hint of prune. Glazed doughnuts. Behind the talkative Lager yeastiness lies a subtle, earthen hop signature.

T-The yeast and bread display impressive muscularity. Semi-dry fig and prune. Over-toasted raisin bagels. Light, spicy hop addition. Caramel and molasses. After the first whack of Lager yeast and bakery medley, there is not a ton to decipher.

M-Booze is a bit wily but hey man, it's a shade under 10%. Fuller body. Light bitterness. Definitely a sipper.

O/D-Not my favorite from perhaps my favorite Massachusetts brewery but I will literally try every single beer I see on the shelf from Jack's Abby. The price-tag is always legit and the beer is even better. The true question is: would I like this beer more if it wasn't from a brewery that makes a few of my favorites? Or would I like it less without the respect that comes with the name on the label? I will never know. (1,154 characters)

Photo of logicalparadox
3.75/5  rDev -6.9%

When a doppelbock is this big, it feels like a stout!

A: Huge head with nice retention. Deep, dark color, looks roasty and intense. Leaves nice lacing in the glass. Will make others jealous.

S: Nose follows the eye; with roasty, espresso notes. Lots of deep, earthy goodness, with some dark chocolate, and hints of molasses and dark fruits. You could be fooled into believing this was a porter or a stout, but it doesn't lose its character as a doppelbock.

T: Coffee, dark, espresso roast, with subtle dark fruits and a bit of twang like malt vinegar in the finish. Lots to contemplate. Very rich. Raisins. Big raisins! And molasses, reminding me of gingerbread cookie dough.

M: chewy, thick, rich, and full bodied. Coats the glass and the pallet. Big beer. Surprisingly smooth and easy drinking.

Overall, ranks up there with the best of breed doppelbocks for me (Celebrator and Optimator)! (896 characters)

Photo of Florida9
3.77/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Clear, dark chestnut brown. Forms a moderate sized light tannish colored head that fizzes away fairly quickly. Next to no lacing.

S: Aroma is wonderful. Deep caramel malts. Raisin, toffee, and a mild nuttiness.

T: Unfortunately, the taste falls apart for me. Strong flavor of caramel malts with notes of raisin and plum. But then there is an acrid taste. Not necessarily burnt…more like a bitter chemical aftertaste. Oddly, the beer then turns saccharin sweet. A simply unpleasant finish.

M: Medium bodied. Somewhat abrasive. Mild bitterness. Lower carbonation.

O: It's a decent beer. Better as it warms. But there are some off-flavors on the back end that I don't care for. Alcohol is well "hidden," but I think it's presenting itself in a form other than typical heat and spice. (793 characters)

Photo of SportsandJorts
3.79/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: pours a lighter brownish color, with huge ruby highlights. extremely clear and bright. a finger of an off white head that fades very quickly and leaves nothing behind

Smell: raisins, caramel and some light roastiness. noticeable noble hop character but not overwhelming. over all is malty and dark without being overly roasty

Taste: opens up with raisins and caramel. a very light roasted character in the background. more raisins and maybe some prunes. ends with a moderate noble hop character. Occasionally some alcohol but never overpowering. lots of clean lager yeast character.

Mouthfeel: chewy and full. balance leans sweet but does have some bitterness to it. a little bit of warmth to it.

Overall: Probably the most spot on interpretation of the style that ive seen in an american brewed doppelbock, only missing a better head retention. But overall I prefer less hop character and an overly sweet balance. I think ill save my other bottle for a while and see what happens (996 characters)

Photo of keithmurray
3.79/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance - brown liquid with beige colored head

Smell - toasted caramel, burnt toast

Taste - toasted caramel, burnt toast, toasted nuts

Mouthfeel - medium bodied, medium carbonation, slight sweetness upfront followed by a toastiness, smooth finish

Overall - decent Dopplebock, although not as refined or complex as its German counterparts

Price Point - $4.99/16.9 oz bottle (380 characters)

Photo of Maxwell
3.8/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a dark and raisiny brown with light ruby notes and a big old light cream head that sticks around with light tight knit bubbles that are replenished rapidly. The beers body appears lager clean, but dark and fairly opaque. The lacing is medium width, sticky, and wall-like across the glass. On the nose, the beer smells of spicy raisins. Thick caramel malts are also present and slightly chewy alcohol. The caramel malts even turn a little roasted as you swirl the beer in your glass. The beer tastes surprisingly suppressed with spicy raisin and alcohol and light grainy cereal. The beer begins with spicy cereal notes before transitioning into sweet raisin and slight caramel and a quick burst of spicy alcohol before the tastes turns again to grainy cereal malts and slight biscuit and the faintest hint of roast malt and bacon. As the beer warms up and I drink it further I get more and more of a feeling of slight rauchbier characteristics in it, similar to Smoke & Dagger. On the mouth, the beer feels thick and chewy, and hits the stomach similarly. The mouth is left clean except for a slight scrim of spittle that wets the mouth for another sip. Overall this is a fairly decent dopplebock from Jack’s Abby. They hide the alcohol very well, but the thickness of the beer makes it a sipper (obviously…). It’s chewy and tasty, but it really doesn’t standout flavor-wise outside of the faint hints of rauchbier. It’s a good example of the style with some slight variations to add a “Jack’s Abby-flair” to it. A good beer for sure, and another wonderful offering from Jack’s Abby. (1,615 characters)

Photo of DIM
3.8/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

a: Semi dark chestnut brown with orange edges; poured with a medium sized fizzy head.

s: Fairly strong heat, stewed raisins, hints of chocolate, toffee, and nutty malts.

t: Lots of good things going on up front; sweet bread, toffee, raisins, cocoa. Ths sharp, dry, lingering heat is a bit of a drawback.

m: Yes this is a bigger doppel, but it still comes across as a bit heavy.

o: Plenty to like here. This is more densely flavored than a typical doppel. To tbe point that I think it comes on a bit too strong. Still, I'd gladly have another. (546 characters)

Photo of LeRose
3.83/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottled, no date found. Poured a deep amber color into a lager glass. About two fingers of beige head. Slightly cloudy. Nice lacing on the glass. Smell is earthy, malty, yeasty almost bread like. Not picking up any fruity aromas, maybe some caramel and toffee type notes. Taste is smooth malty sweet with slight bitterness. The word silky comes to mind. Nutty, a little bready, definitely earthy, and yeast character. Some acidity, maybe a hint of raisin or date notes. Very clean on the palate, light to medium body. Carbonation is moderate. Some aftertaste of sweetness once I finished the bottle - seemed to build up some. Very smooth, balanced, and drinkable even with the alcohol. Seems well hidden to me. Enjoyable, sure wish there was more than on bottle left on shelf. (776 characters)

Photo of davey101
3.91/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

November 2012 batch, 500 ml bottle into a tulip glass.

A - Pours a clear dark red body. Lots of khaki foam, thick edging with minimal lacing.

S - Caramel, dates, sweet brown sugar and malty bread. A bit of spice and booze on the end.

T - Dark fruit and caramel, spices, toasted malts, brown sugar. Syrupy sweet, a touch of booze on the end.

M - Thick and creamy, medium bodied with nice carbonation.

O - A very solid doppelbock. Not quite at the level of an Ayinger, but quite solid. (489 characters)

Photo of woosterbill
3.95/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

500ml bottle into a 25cl Duvel tulip.

A: Clear deep chestnut body under an inch of tan head. Ok retention, nice lace. Pretty good.

S: Classic Doppelbock aroma of bread crust, chocolate, raisin, and earthiness. Solid.

T: Follows the nose. Maltiness abounds, with bread, dark fruit, and faint roastiness all playing their parts. Moderate bitterness and faint alcohol on the finish. Quite clean, pretty tasty.

M: Lively medium-to-full body. Creamy and mouth-filling. Great.

O: Very good beer, definitely one of the better American takes on the style. I really like the substantial hop presence. There are several German offerings that do a lot better, though.

Cheers! (670 characters)

Photo of metter98
3.98/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: The beer is clear but ver dark amber in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a short off white head that died down and left a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light aromas of raisins are present in the nose along with some hints of brown bread.
T: Just like the smell, the taste has flavors of raisins with malty sweetness and notes of brown bread.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied and smooth on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is like liquid bread and is very filling and nourishing, but is still rather easy to drink because any traces of alcohol are well hidden from the taste.

Serving type: bottle (684 characters)

Photo of cbutova
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I have had this one a few times on-tap but somehow haven't gotten around to reviewing it.

A- Poured from the 500ml bottle to a deep snifter which seems appropriate for a 9% Doppelbock like this. The body itself is super dark brown and opaque. A frothy, foamy light tan head rises to two fingers and eventually falls to a thick ring, good retention. Lacing starts out spotty but dies out after a few sips.

S- Malts make up a bulk of the aroma which satisfies the style. The grains lend a significant base of Brown toasted notes as well as caramel, fresh cracked grain dust and some roastiness. Beyond that are hints of dark fruits like raisin, plum and fig.

T- Rich and satisfying maltyness paired with strong underlying yeast tones. Malt base reminds me of an American Brown Ale with notes of toast, caramel sweetness, cocoa, slight roast, brown sugar and cereal grains. Bock yeast provides a balance to the grains with a raisin, fig and dark fruit presence.

MF- Medium bodied with a texture right between foamy and creamy with a slight chewy oily feel to it. Carbonation is moderate but extremely smooth because of the texture. Slight alcohol warming in the finish.

Great contributions from both the rich malts and fruity yeast here as they combine to create an enjoyable Doppelbock. The 9% feels appropriate but I like the edge it provides with the toasted grains and dark fruit notes. Provides what I look for in a solid Doppelbock and I will surely have this again. (1,474 characters)

Photo of WunderLlama
4/5  rDev -0.7%

Bottle poured into chalice

Deep ruby brown, clear with carbonation. Pours a taupe one finger bubbly foam cap.

Aroma of raisins, winey,

First sip, taste of sweet malt on the middle of the tongue , light espresso roast. Second sip, taste of raisin and feel of the alcohol. Check the label and this is 9% abv.

Smooth, good sudsing, chewy sweet malt, medium body, clean finish.

Good beer, made in America, but Optimator or Celebrator still reigns supreme in this style of beer. (483 characters)

Photo of mdfb79
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 01/28/12 notes. Thanks to jslot38 for sharing this one. 22 oz. bottle into a tulip.

a - Pours a deep dark amber color with one inch of off white head and moderate carbonation evident. Leaves some light lacing on the glass.

s - Smells roasted malts, toasted malts, caramel malts, light dark fruits and raisins, and bready malts. Nice and malty.

t - Tastes of caramel malts, fruity malts, bready malts, dark fruits, raisins, figs, and toasted malts.

m - Medium body and low to moderate carbonation. Very smooth and easy to drink.

o - Overall a really nice beer from Jack's Abbey. Lots of malts and nice fruit to it, and very easy to drink. Very excited to try more of their stuff an EBF. (696 characters)

Photo of ksimons
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-a dark amber with a thin layer of cream colored head that lingers

S-rich malts, raisins, caramel, and some dark fruits

T-taste is similar to the smell but a bit stronger. Rich malts dominate and gives this beer a chewy quality, sweet caramel, raisins, and a spicy alcohol finish.

M-full body, good carbonation

Overall a really nice mouthfeel, full and creamy, and pretty good tasting too. My first offering from Jack's Abby, I look forward to trying more in the future. (475 characters)

Photo of dar482
4.01/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

The beer comes in a dark reddish mahogany color.

The aroma is very fruit forward and different for the style. It has rummy raisins, plums figs, cherries. An obvious lager yeast. A breadiness and candy sweetness as well.

The flavor follows with those fruits in the front. There’s a light brown sugar and caramel sweetness in the middle. It’s not a sweet beer for the style, nor is it big on toasty bready notes that is familiar of other doppelbocks. There’s a mineral lager yeast note throughout. In the finish, there’s a huge breadiness of rugbrød. It has this substantial, dense rye and whole wheat breadiness instead of doughiness that most Americans are familiar with.

It is different for the style without the big sweet bready and toasty malts, but instead with lots of fruit flavors. The alcohol is dangerously well hidden and it is still delicious. (867 characters)

Photo of johnnnniee
4.02/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a slightly chill hazed reddish brown color with a fluffy beige head that persists forever. Caramel, molasses, dark burnt sugars and dark dried fruits, its a malt heads wet dream. Very light aromas of earthy hop provides almost no balance. The flavor is malty and rich with all of the aforementioned aromas playing a part in the flavor. Heavy molasses with a hint of smoke dominates the flavor while the other tastes add character. Rich sweet and frigging smooth. Medium to thick body with a moderate level of carbonation and a sweet bubbly syrupy mouthfeel. Great Americanized version of a dopplebock. (607 characters)

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Saxonator Dunkles Doppelbock from Jack's Abby Brewing
89 out of 100 based on 51 ratings.