Private Rye Bière De Garde - Jack's Abby Brewing

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very good

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Reviews: 40
Hads: 209
rAvg: 3.87
pDev: 3.88%
Wants: 7
Gots: 12 | FT: 0
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Jack's Abby Brewing visit their website
Massachusetts, United States

Style | ABV
Bière de Garde |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: taez555 on 03-16-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

This lager is brewed in the French farmhouse style. We add our own twist by adding 30% Rye Malt, locally grown Triticale from MA and amber Belgian candy sugar. We leave this beer slightly hazy to accentuate the mild fruity yeasty character. Copper in color, a spicy Rye flavor emerges in a dry yet malty finish after lagering for five weeks near freezing.

30 IBU
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Photo of Andrew041180
3.86/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured a deep copper with about as much head as I could possibly allow. It retained well, but when it was gone, it was gone. There was very little carbonation (I'm not sure if this is typical for the style or not) and no lacing to speak of. Still the color and thick haziness of this one warrant the high marks!

S - Classic Belgian-Style smell, with notes of spice and banana.

T - Farmhouse style at the start, that gradually grows more bitter as the hops kick in. I can clearly detect the rye presence in this one. Oddly enough, I think this might be a case of too much going on. That, combined with the fact that this isn't really my favorite style, yield slightly lower marks than most might give.

M - These guys do such a good job on mouthfeel, although this one seems little lighter and less velvety than the others I've had, maybe due to lack of carbonation.

O - Another solid from Jack's Abby. Even on styles that I'm still learning to appreciate (like this one) I still truly enjoy these beers. (1,010 characters)

Photo of mdfb79
3.85/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

From 02/09/13 notes. had this on tap at Bukowskis in Boston, MA.

a - Pours a murky, deep orange-auburn color with two inches of off white head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells of oranges, wheat, spices, lightly funky, earthy notes, floral hops, bready malts, light citrus. Nice nose; like the oranges and citrus mixing with light funk.

t - Tastes of wheat, oranges, fruity malts, spices, pepper, rye, bread, some earthy notes. No real sourness or funk like the nose, though still nice. More rye coming through here in the taste.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. Overall pretty easy to drink.

o - Overall a decent biere de garde, though I liked their brett one better. Nose is a nice mix of light sour and funk and fruit, though the taste is less complex. Easy to drink, would give it another shot. (824 characters)

Photo of Chico1985
3.84/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Jack's Abby - so many new beers, so little time...

Cool color on this one, a hazy light brownish-orange. White head retains as a thick ring and a partial cap with some lace left.

The saison feel really comes through in the scent. Tart, farmy yeast and lager graininess combined with some spicy and lemony notes.

Taste once again brings a nice combo of saison yeast and lager flavor. Light crisp Belgian yeast that is fruity with a bit of tartness to it, grainy and bready malts, a bit buttery. Light fruit, rye, and earthiness there as well but hops are kept on the down low.

Light, crisp mouthfeel with highish carbonation and a full body.

A very interesting beer, not very familiar with this style and this was definitely a cool experience. A little on the simple side, but quite unique and enjoyable, a nice change up for Jack's Abby as well. (850 characters)

Photo of davey101
3.83/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Spring 2013 vintage, .5L bottle into a snifter glass.

A - Pours a dark red/burnt orange body. Not as hazy as the description led me to believe. Visible carbonation slowly rises from below. Two fingers of fluffy off white foam. Lasting and sticky lacing.

S - Its a sort of a spicy rye with a caramel malt/Belgian yeast finish . Just a touch of fruit and subtle skunked lager notes. Not particularly exciting, but its nice enough.

T - Clean Belgian yeast and caramel malts with a light spice and fruitiness. Hop bitterness is apparent on the end. Tasty and unique.

M - Medium bodied with spritzy carbonation.

O - A pretty unique beer. I'm not too familiar with biere de gardes, but this does come off as Americanized saison with a nice rye spice and hoppy finish. Certainly worth a try. (791 characters)

Photo of Gatch
3.82/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Spring 2013

A: Copper-yellow in color with a thick, fluffy, off-white head. Decent lace and not much retention. Give it a good swirl, though, and the head reappears quickly.

S: Lightly toasted malt, some barn/hay aromas...I hate to say it, but it smells like an American Macro Lager.

T: The malt flavors are unique and delicious. Some fruity, barny, and earthy qualities. I'm guessing there were cereal grains used because they stand out. Delicious, satisfying finish. As my pint glass became less full, this beer grew on me. Didn't get much rye nor candy sugar nor French farmhouse style.

M: Very light yet creamy body. Carbonation is spot-on. Super easy-drinking. Went through the bottle way too fast.

O: I haven't had many beers of this style but I expected it to be a little funkier and unique. Basically a light American lager with a bit of wild character to it. I'd say the weakest offering from Jack's Abby that I've had so far. But still pretty darn good. (968 characters)

Photo of angrybabboon
3.79/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Cheers to Bilco for giving me a bottle of this

Consumed 6/30/13

Appearance: Mostly clear, lightly hazy, somewhere between dark orange and dark copper - pours with an above-average sized, creamy, off-white head - retains an impressive amount of head, leaves some nice gobs of lacing

Smell: More or less smells like a lager with some Belgian influences - clean, crisp, malty lager aromas (the typical quality aroma from Jack's Abby) - some rye aromas - some citrus and other fruity esters, I'm guessing from the yeast - light, sugary and malty sweetness - smells more like a Biere de Garde as it warms up, with some light funk, earthy, and musty aromas

Taste: LIghtly sweet, lightly malty, and lightly funky - pale, lightly grainy malts with some bread and some rye - some sweetness - lightly fruity, with oranges - some yeasty notes, lightly phenolic, with some spice - earthy and a little musty, with a touch of funk, just enough to keep things interesting

Mouthfeel: Medium body, nicely carbonated, very smooth

Overall: Bros with Sergeant Wheat... or something

I must admit I haven't had many beers of this style, but for what I've had, this seems like an above-average Biere De Garde. It's refreshing, very drinkable, and interesting. I may seek this out again in the future. (1,284 characters)

Photo of ppoitras
3.78/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

16.9oz bottle purchased as a single from Yankee Spirits, Sturbridge, MA.

Poured into an imperial pint glass with a 1/2" beige head over the cloudy coppery amber brew. Head fades promptly down to a solid layer of froth, with leggy lasting lace. Aroma is nutty fruity wort.

Taste follows the nose, nutty sweet to start, fruity in the middle, with a balanced close. Mouthfeel is smooth, and drinkability is good. Yet another nice brew from these guys. (452 characters)

Photo of DrJay
3.73/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Clear amber with a creamy, off-white cap. Good head retention. Lemony aroma, nutty, toffee, fruity and bready. Lemon bitterness with a spicy finish. Notes of mint, nuts, slight toffee and malt, with lingering herbal hops. Light bodied, slightly slick, creamy carbonation. Very drinkable and quite enjoyable. (307 characters)

Photo of sommersb
3.7/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Tasted On: 04-23-2013
Freshness: Spring 2013 vintage
Packaging: 500ml brown bottle, pry-cap
Glassware: Cervoise glass
Purchased: Received in a trade

A big thanks to DrewShal9 for this trade!

Pours as a semi-clear amber beer with an attractive head of off-white on top. Both lacing and head retention are very good.

The smells start with some Belgian yeast funk, with a musty character. I also pick up aromas of citrus orange and then the spiciness of rye grains.

The taste features a strong rye presence - very spicy and a bit harsh at times. Other notes are of bready malts (although this beer is quite dry) and some woodiness. The body seems average and carbonation is on the high side. The finish is very similar to the taste, with dryness and spicy rye malts featured.

Overall I enjoyed this beer, although I think scaling back the rye bill a bit would make for a better-tasting beer and one that was more in line with the style. (939 characters)

Photo of MRsojourner
3.56/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

aroma is a little light and somewhat musty and metallic ...maybe?
color is copper and fairly clear and a little hazy when pouring the rest of the bottle.
the taste is a marriage of rye spiciness and light fruit. almost white grapes and melon and pepper and a little caramel sweetness. very little hop presence. It drinks really easy and seems appropriate for the coming springtime. enjoyable (391 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured an amber color lager with a medium size foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of light caramel malt with light spicy rye notes with light rustic cereal notes. Taste is also a mix between some cereal notes with some light spicy rye notes and some chewy light caramel malt notes. Body is about average with good carbonation. Interesting experiment from a brewery that I would wish to know more about. (429 characters)

Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Slight haze on a rich orange-copper color. Head is white and creamy with some large bubbles. Moderate retention on a small, clumpy, creamy cap and collar. Some spots of lacing.

Smell: Some mild esters. Fruity and yeasty. A solid hit of clove and banana with some underlying damp basement and grass. Almost floral on the edges. A bit of caramel malt sweetness. Nice building spiciness in the back. Pretty mild overall. Some apple and lager yeast.

Taste: Mild rye spiciness. Some backing lager yeast. Faint esters. Some apples skin and flower petals. Light caramel malt sweetness. Vaguely bready. Grass, hay, damp earth. Vaguely musty. Some minor hints of citrus from the hops layered over the top. Toasted, but lightly. Candi sugar sweetness is mild but works as a nice compliment to the light spicy rye.

Mouthfeel: Higher than average carbonation, but not by much. Medium body with a clean finish.

Overall: I don't see a promotion in your future.

Not the best beer from Jack's Abby, but it has that distinct quality I expect from Jack's Abby. A unique blend of esters and rye and lager yeast. (1,111 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.14/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

500 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Clear golden orange, verging on amber. A few bubbles. Thin collar.

Smell - Strong caramel. No sweetness. Some spicy rye. A little bit of fruitiness.

Taste - A bit of fruitiness before a dry caramel kicks in. Fairly bland. Bitter rye in the finish.

Mouthfeel - Smooth and clean. Low carbonation. Medium body.

Overall - Kinda uninteresting. Nothing truly special coming out of this. (436 characters)

Photo of kojevergas
2.98/5  rDev -23%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Acquried in a trade with the gracious ICCULIS - thanks again, buddy! Label identifies it as a biere de garde; I'm reviewing a such. 30 IBUs. Original Gravity: 14.5. 6.0% ABV according to my bottle. Spring 2013 vintage. Expectations are very high; I've heard great things about Jack's Abby and this is my first beer from them. .5 litre bottle with appealing label art and standard silver pressure cap served into a Mitchells of Lancaster flared stemtulip in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.

Served cold, straight from the fridge. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a one finger white-khaki colour head of fair cream and thickness. Retention is average (~2 minutes). Body colour is a pleasant dark orange. Lacks the vibrance I'd expect from a good biere de garde, but it's appealing. Nontransparent. Semitranslucent. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Lightly hazy. Looks pretty good for the style, but I've seen far better. Not unique or special, but inviting.

Sm: Delightfully evocative malts. Brown sugar, spicy rye malts, and some bready graininess. Redolent of wood syrup of some kind. Candi sugar doesn't quite match the style, but it seems to work here. Pleasantly toasty. Toffee. Caramel. A bit biscuity. Nicely sweet. Vaguely fruity. It's certainly not what I expect from a biere de garde, but it does come off unique - and most of all, appealing. Not much in the way of spice, yeasty character, or hop character. Incidentally, hopping seems minimal in strength and floral in character. A pleasant aroma of average to above average strength.

T: Hm. Getting the wood syrup just after the open with some well integrated caramel and surprisingly neutral rye - i.e. it's not all that spicy - especially for the style. The candi sugar lends a rounded pleasant sweetness, but does come off like it doesn't belong in the flavour profile and shifts the balance and focus away from the subtle toasted character it'd otherwise possess. Biscuit malt, some pale malt, caramalts. Bready grains form the even-keeled backbone, which isn't as supportive as I'd like. No cream, yeasty character, or alcohol comes through. Vaguely fruity - perhaps apple skin?

Constructively, it does come off a bit homebrew-esque; there's something about the generic malty taste in the early second act that reminds me of many unfocused homebrews I've tried. I expected at least some yeast character. It feels a bit forced and clinical for the style; it doesn't have the natural cohesion of a more traditional example of the style and I think the candi sugar addition may be to blame. Looking at the label, I'm beginning to get an idea of what the problem may be: they combine "the strict standards of traditional German brewing with the innovative approach of American craft brewers" - and this a traditional French farmhouse style. Something's getting lost in translation.

The balance isn't ideal, but in spite of my criticisms I do like the beer. Sure, the complexity and subtlety I want aren't there, but it's tasty in spite of its flaws.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with some tingly coarseness on the finish, which lightly encourages the next sip. Pretty good carbonation. A bit too thick for the lack of depth and diversity of flavour. A bit weak, especially in the second act. Should be crisper and softer. Presence on the palate is pretty decent otherwise.

Dr: Admittedly, I expected better given the reputation of the brewery. It's actually somewhat difficult to drink considering the relatively manageable ABV; I certainly couldn't quaff it. A redolence of homebrew qualities coupled with a problematic balance brings it down for me, but ultimately I do like it. It's not among the best beers in the style I've had (even from American breweries), but I'm thinking this may not be the ideal Jack's Abby beer on which to start constructing an opinion of the brewery as a whole. Looking forward to trying more from then and I'm glad I have a couple in the fridge for that very reason. I'm grateful I got the opportunity to try this, but I wouldn't want another one. I applaud the experimentation, but it misses the mark for me.

High C (4,227 characters)

Photo of thebigredone
2.77/5  rDev -28.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to jaasen64 for including this as an extra in a recent trade. Always love to try new beers.

Poured from the bottle into a Brewery Vivant tulip.

Smell is slightly funky, slightly sour. Gives the impression that this will have a nice sour bite.

Wow, the taste is just a hot mess. I get very little of the sourness I was initially expecting. Instead, the palate is overwhelmed with a spicy, barnyardy funk that competes with the tinge of sourness in this beer. Also has a weirdly medicinal, off-putting finishing taste. No cohesiveness in the flavors of this beer whatsoever.

Overall, this was a very, very big dissapointment to me. I disagree with all the other reviews, the spiciness of the rye and hops do not play well with slight sourness, and the flavors simply clash. In addition, this brew is a lager, but there is no cleanliness or crispness to this. IMHO, a fruitier ale yeast may have been able to pull the seperate elements of this beer together. In the end, I took about three drinks of this, kept trying to like it, and then drainpoured the rest of the bottle. (1,082 characters)

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Private Rye Bière De Garde from Jack's Abby Brewing
86 out of 100 based on 40 ratings.