Woodcut No. 4 - Oak Aged Double Marzen-Style Lager - Odell Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
89
very good

56 Reviews
THE BROS
91
outstanding

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Reviews: 56
Hads: 107
rAvg: 4.04
pDev: 13.37%
Wants: 44
Gots: 39 | FT: 2
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Odell Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Märzen / Oktoberfest |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Bitterbill on 06-02-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 56 | Hads: 107
Photo of Sammy
3.88/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best marzen I ever had. I hate to bring dwn the average rating, but to me its still, well, a marzen. Bold malting. Thank you for sending JMBSH. Was geat with supper, particular washing down the fish. Good drinkability but of course thsi quantity must and was shared. Good head, malty aroma. Vanilla. (299 characters)

Photo of GRG1313
4.37/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A nice whiskey color orange/copper with a short white head.

Nose is very floral, malty, oaky ("vanilla") and with lots of pleasant whiskey undertones.

Mouthfeel is medium full but rich and with very good good balance. The balance is really one of the strengths of this beer.

Flavors are rich and full malty cooked stone fruit with assertive whiskey/Bourbon character and tones. Undertones of carmel bitter milked coffee and some "whiskey smoke." This one has to warm a bit to get the full flavors and complexities but it's worth it.

Released May 2010; Bottle 3116. (576 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.43/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a copper color with some rust-colored highlights. White head and a bit of lacing. Smells malty with some caramel alongside a bit of oak. Something doesn't quite fit--maybe tannins from the oak alongside a slight graininess. Taste is along similar lines. Mouthfeel is rather dry and a bit boozy. Drinkability is affected by all these factors. Not the most impressive offering I've had from Odell. (401 characters)

Photo of largadeer
1.24/5  rDev -69.3%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Chswimmer shared this one at a recent tasting. Thanks, Craig. I've always wanted to try a barrel aged double marzen-stle lager.

The beer is a murky, hazy amber in the glass, faintly marzen-like but rather turbid. It's topped by a small white cap that recedes to a thick collar.

It smells intensely herbal and medicinal with over the top oak. The more I sniff, the more it smells like rubber to me. There's a bit of pine and a strong spiciness, which is likely the byproduct of the oak as well.

On the palate it's sweet but astringent, herbal and rubbery, grainy, over-oaked and harshly tannic. Dark fruit flavors make a brief appearance in the way of figs and plums. Medium-light in body, the oak completely annihilates the base beer, making for a rubbery astringent trainwreck. Ugh, this is terrible, truly one of the worst beers I can recall having. It finishes with strong tannins and lingering rubber and herbal astringency. This is so incredibly bad, I couldn't choke down more than 2 ounces. (1,000 characters)

Photo of zeff80
4.3/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured out a hazy, burgundy color with a two-finger head of off-white head of bubbly foam. It left thin trails of lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of sweet caramel, some oak and some vanilla.

T - It had a sweet, rich, caramel maltiness with touches of vanilla and almond. Some oaky flavors, too.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium to full bodied lager with a warm alcohol presence.

O - This is a really tasty oak aged marzen. I held off on buying one for so long and I'm glad that I finally did. It was great! (528 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
3.7/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Richard for leaving this one for us drunkards to funnel.

A: The pour is a slightly hazy copper color with a fluffy white head and plenty of carbonation.

S: Quite sweet with plenty of vanilla on the nose. There are plenty of sweet malt notes as well, namely caramel with lots of bread as well. A bit of alcohol as well, but not overly boozy.

T: Thankfully, this is not as overwhelmingly oaky as some of the other Woodcuts are. As mentioned in the smell recap, the barrel character is up front and well represented: good vanilla and whiskey flavors, along with some oak. Quite a bit of booze, unfortunately, and the sweet caramel and bready malts don't sufficiently mask that fact.

M: A medium body, which is something I was worried about due to the lager factor. Plenty of carbonation as well.

D: Overall, not a bad beer at all, but just too hot. I would let this one mellow out before opening a bottle of this. (925 characters)

Photo of Jason
4.05/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750ml brown magnum, corked and caged. Bottling date on the label.

Aggressive head but with careful pouring there is no overflow ... just a massive rocky head. Dark brassy color shows off its clarity. Fresh oak, bready malt, ripe freshly peel oranges, spicy alcohol and hops with a clean nutty yeast backing all fill the nostrils. Very deep smoothness with an extremely creamy body. Spicy, warming alcohol and a think wood character. Maltiness is layered underneath with unfolds with caramel and bready flavors. Hops ring in pretty hard with a firm bitterness and long linger of flavor. Hint of orange and raisin with more spicy alcohol in the semi-sweet finish that eventually gets pulled down buy the wood.

A sipper and a lovely one at that. Encore please!! (760 characters)

Photo of russpowell
4.38/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle 5056 opens with a faint pop, caramel coloring with 4+ fingers of fluffy tan head. Insane lacing & head retention

S: Apple peels, honey, brown bready, some vanilla/oak

T: Follows the nose with a tad bit of booze bite as well, plus oaky/cidery notes up front, plus herbal & woody hops. Dryness, tannins, plums, molasses & tobacco as this warms. Finishes dry, oaky with some boozey presence intertwining with green apple that present tart; works for me, clearly an OTT hybrid Marzen, so a .5 deduction is in order for the style, many Chardonnay aspects to this one IMO

MF: Medium bodied with firm enough carbonation to keep this from getting bogged down in the malt. As well balanced as a beer this big really can be IMO

Drinks easy for the ABV, a nice effort, but would caution folks to only spend the $1.00 an ounce if not on a budget & having a passion for bottom fermented offerings. I think this would worked a few % ABV lower & been more nuanced, but fairly solid as it is offered (996 characters)

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.15/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Burnt copper coloring, under a thin, off-white layer of foam.

Rich malty aromatics, oak, vanilla, and cherries. Sweetness heightened by alcohol presence.

Taste: All that and more on the palate. Cherry turns to brandy, cognac, leather, dark rum. Getting rougher and tougher, feeling more like a barley-wine lager. Oak-aged double oktoberfest, huh? Genius. Big and beefy, but also lovely and luscious.

Hot liquor roars along the palate and coats the throat, getting hotter as we go. Becomes a big, malty bruiser, keeps company in the mouth, sets a spell, rests luxuriously…and then it comes…boom, boom, boom, boom. This is one bomber that should be split three ways, at least. But I can't write these notes while being properly sociable, so I take one for the team. Team Bitter Nib, going all the way to document the total beer experience.

Perhaps I should have saved this for a moment or two, it's just not cold enough for a brew this hot. In a few weeks to a month, this would really come in handy. Says the guy who just decided to open up an Imperial Stout next... (1,076 characters)

Photo of mdfb79
3.8/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 09/15/10 notes. Had at a local DC tasting.

a - Pours a dark amber color with one inch of white head and nice lacing.

s - Smells of molasses, dark fruit, spices, vanilla.

t - Tastes of caramel malts, sugar, dark fruit.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation.

d - A little bit sweet, but a good beer none the less. Would like to try some of the other beers in the series. Would try again. (398 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.88/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sampled July 2011
A smell of light tartness wafts my way after cracking the cork. A steady pour into my Lost Abbey Teku glass produces a fat-two-finger thick, pale amber tinged, tan colored head; as I work my way through this beer some spotty, spidery lacing clings to the side of my glass. The beer has a pretty red-amber color that shows clear pale cranberry and gold color in light. A full look at nose shows no tartness, but i would guess it was the oak, which certainly plays big role here. A toasted, woody oak mixes with caramelized maltiness that has lots of biscuit like malt character and pale-toasted whole grain notes. buttery oak and even oak fruit or tartness if that makes sense. As the beer warms up more of the sweetness comes out, this definitely accentuates the caramel character (it almost has a fruitiness to it even) and there is even a touch of nuttiness to the nose.

There is a viscous heft and chewy, caramel maltiness that lingers on the palate with a textured heft. finish has tart spicy oak and some astringency. up front the spicy, sharp and woody oak melds nicely with the sweet, caramel malt notes. Toasted oak melds with biscuit malt and chewy, almost savory whole grain flavors. The spiciness seems to also come from nice hop character; slightly herbal, soft touch of biting bitterness, maybe even fruit accentuating. oak does somehow contribute a very subtle tartness, adds another dimension (I am pretty sure there is not something else contributing this tartness). As the beer warms up a nice vanilla note from the oak starts to come out, this works well with the richly caramelized malt character.

A second pour has me noticing an almost smokiness to this beer in the aroma, and it is there in the flavor as well; this seems to be a product of the malt and the oak character. It can seem a touch hot in the finish at times, though it is not much if you consider how strong this beer is.

The oak character, while certainly playing a big role here, is not so omnipresent as to clash with the base beer. The mix of oak and malt is actually quite nice; the fact that the beer is quite sweet helps with this, without the oak it would be cloying, but the two achieve a certain balance. This is never going to be anything but a sipping beer though. Tasty enough, though it can seem a touch too cloying at times. (2,344 characters)

Photo of BARFLYB
4.28/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle into a snifter at Capone's for a O'dells event for Philly Beer Week, I love this city & da burbs.

Woody number 4 has a medium penny bronze look with some light brown spots along with a nice off white bubbly sugar looking head about a inch, thick looking, clumps of sticky lace. Smell is complex and big, it's large and in charge. I get malted barley, caramel, citrus hops, wood and oak, with some grain. A nice hot whiskey as well. Everything is big. Large in taste as well, I think this is my 1st double marzen & this delivers. Toasted Malt, caramel, whiskey wood up front with apricot and tangerine in the middle. finishes malty with some small chocolate and grain. Mouth gets a splash of alcohol, but it gets a dousing of flavor. Kinda coating in the mouth, four is above medium bodied with a very small syrup likeness, but more of a light coating. Low heat. Sweet and malty, nicely hopped, nicely oaked. It
s really easy to drink this quick, but it's 11%, take your time. The original style is super drinkable when basic and low, this souped up double version is no different. (1,088 characters)

Photo of tempest
4/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split a bottle with friends. Very interesting. It's deeply floral and herbal with a smooth whiskey-like vanilla taste. The aroma is similar, with a bit more focus on the vanilla. The flavor, by comparison is fruitier with light apple and citrus notes. Frankly I can't taste much Marzen, but it's a fine strong ale. (314 characters)

Photo of corby112
3.91/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml shared with shadowane.

Pours a dark ruby color with a two finger frothy white head that slowly fades into a lasting cap/ring. Rings and chunks of soapy lacing left behind.

Earthy aroma with lots of wood/oak along with sweet malts and autumnal spice. Toasty with strong wood profile as well as some caramel, nut, toffee, cinnamon and brown sugar. At first all oak but becomes more complex as it warms.

Medium bodied with slight creamy texture and a very strong oak barrel presence that dominates. Lots of toasted oak that overpowers the flavor up front but soon gives way to autumnal spice and sweet malt notes.  Hints of cinnamon and brown sugar followed by sweet caramel, hazelnut, biscuit and toffee. The high AbV is excellently masked with no heat whatsoever.  This beer has a strange flavor profile and since the virgin oak is so strong it slightly overpowers the other notes, lingering into a bone dry finish.    Still, this beer is pretty flavorful and in my opinion, the dry oak flavor goes well with the characteristics of the marzen style. (1,062 characters)

Photo of Gobzilla
4.32/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by torino at woodshop 5.1

Poured a copper brown with orange highlights with a half finger of head that left a ring of lacing. The nose was of caramel, oak, and vanilla with whiskey accents and faint raisins and tropical fruits. Well balanced flavors consisitng of caramel malts papaya and other tropical fruits like the nose with whiskey, vanilla, and barrel oak accents. Good full bodied beer with a low amount of carbonation that had a sweet creamy and mild booze finish. Very drinkable beer at 11% but you will not notice the content as it is well hidden in this complex flavored mixture. (606 characters)

Photo of Bitterbill
4.1/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle purchased at the brewery. Bottle number 2123, May 2010.

It pours a slightly hazy copper colour, 1 finger head of foam, excellent lacing. Very tiny bubbles seen through the haze. A very good looking Marzen.

The smell is malty with good noted of caramel and bread. I can't detect any bitterness and more importantly, any of the substantial alcohol. I would have guessed, from the smell, that this would be a session beer or close to it and not an 11% abv big boy.

The taste has some sweetness to it, along with some bready notes, no obvious bitterness, an oakiness, and a nutty-almond flavour that I'm liking a lot. Some vanilla here too I notice after the first few sips. Plenty of alcohol here as well. Not so much in the taste but it's a definite warm my belly brew after the swallow. I'm having mixed feelings about the taste. Thumbs up for the most part but the alcohol is starting to grind on me.

The mouthfeel is NOT a problem at all. Nice and smooth with just the right level of carbonation and body.

Drinkability? I question the whole Double(insert your favourite easy drinking style brew that gets amped up ) thingy that adds a lot of alcohol and ends up making the super whatever a 1 bottle, at the most, beer session. With Double IPAs and Stouts, it works, sometimes supremely. With other styles, not so much.

No thumbs down from me for this brew as I know brewers LOVE to experiment and my hat is off to them for doing so and they have a LOT of fun doing it. I'm just saying, sometimes the end results are not to MY tastes. Do not stop on my account. There have been many more pluses than minuses, in my experience. (1,640 characters)

Photo of Haybeerman
4.36/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Hazy red/brown amber (or copper/orange); even the color is intriguing. Poured a 3 finger light tan head that rested slowly to a 2 finger dollop. Decanted in lazy bubbles. Laced in sticky, wide sheets.

S: Big sweet malt; brown bread and honey. Smokey, wet oak; not too overpowering. Alcohol.

T: Consistent with the nose. Maybe come vanilla anad toffee. Very rich flavors intensifies to the finish. Finish is mellow with a building bitter ahead of warming, dry alcohol.

M: Medium body. Moderate carbonation. Dry and warming.

D: Disguises the alcohol well. Drank the magnum alone and got quite the buzz. Flavorful, surprisingly smooth and balanced. (653 characters)

Photo of claspada
3.88/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle #1307, bottled in May 2010. Courtesy of my favorite mid-west trading partner G311.
Pours a slightly hazy deep copper color with a large fluffy white head and plenty of carbonation; leaves a nice bubbly lacing as well.

Aromas begin quite sweet with plenty of vanilla. There are plenty of sweet biscuity malt notes; some breadiness as well. As it warms you get a little of the doughy and bready lager yeast notes which were undetectable initially. In the way background you get a bit of alcohol, but not really even enough worth mentioning considering this is a 11% beast.

The tastes begin with layers of bready and biscuity malts. Then you are greeted with the nice subtle oaky and woody flavors. Both are balanced very nicely; by no means is this a wood-bomb. As you re-examine you detect the flavors from the barrel including good vanilla and some tannic flavors usually associated with wine (tobacco, leather and apple) but are all secondary to the vanilla and general "woody" flavors. There is a slight slight slight sour oak twang. Really very chewy and doughy like a slightly undercooked buttermilk biscuit. As it warms the iodine/sourness and alcohol emerge much more making this less drinkable. The "lager" malt bill and imperial level of alcohol leave the unbalanced ABV/style flaws more apparent as you reach the lower half of the bottle, this is best served at colder temperatures

The mouthfeel is medium bodied, which is something I was worried about due to the lager factor (I hate 95% of lagers I have tasted because they taste watery and stripped of flavor), but this one delivers. Plenty of carbonation as well which I also really enjoy and prefer compared to the flat, lifeless barrel-aged messes which are becoming far too common in today's craft beer industry.

Overall, I enjoyed this beer for the most part. I have not had a bad offering from Odell's barrel collection beers, but I greatly prefer the Woodcut No. 3 and the Deconstruction to this. From what I have read and experienced these Woodcut's need at least a year to settle/merge their flavors properly so I recommend this and any future offering only after aging to properly enjoy them at their peak. Another quality offering from Odell's barrel aging program although this is the first one I do not really "want/need" to revisit. Still quite good though. (2,346 characters)

Photo of jrallen34
4.3/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

First bottle of the night, thanks to Kristina of WLV for this surprise to start the night...Pours a light clear copper with red. A really light tope head, great retention, good lacing...The aroma is awesome, biscuit malt and bread mixed with some light bourbon and awesome vanilla. So shocked at how nice this is...The taste is more of the aroma, almost as successful but the vanilla gets a way a touch...Incredibly easy to drink at 11%, I can't believe it.

This is well worth trying for sure! (494 characters)

Photo of AgentZero
4.3/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle thanks to Kristina, drank at Jeppe's visit at West Lakeview Liquors.

A - Copper colored beer with red notes. Off-white head had some positive retention and a bit of solid lace on the sides.

S - I am not a fan of Oktoberfest style beers, but this smells really great. Toffee, vanilla, some sweet honey, and oak. Has a nice depth and some varying aromas, particularly since I was expecting some sort of malt bomb.

T - Very well done, once again, particularly for the style. Nice lager-style beer balanced with oak and bourbon from the barrels. Vanilla compliments quite well. I kind of expected this beer to be overwhelmed by the barrel, but that was not the case. Great balance and flavor.

M - Medium bodied with a moderate dose of carbonation.

O - Really great beer, it's a home-run for the style. No clue it was 11%, went down way to easy. Would like to drink this again. (884 characters)

Photo of DavoleBomb
3.76/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter. Bottle #2141, from May 2010. I was a big fan of #2 and #3, so I had to purchase this as well.

3.0 A: Murky plum brown color. Two plus fingers of frothy beige head. Retention is below average and a very short ring of lacing is left.

4.5 S: Like the past incarnations of the woodcut series, this too delivers the oak big time. Oak, oak, vanilla, oak, nuttiness, and oak. The base, though admittedly hard to find, works well with the barrel. Sweet neutral maltiness with some caramel and toastiness. Really wonderful smelling. Well done.

3.5 T: The flavors in this are intense to say the least. Again, tons of oak and vanilla. A mild nuttiness. Toasty with caramel and a hefty neutral malt sweetness. You can also taste the lager yeast, if that makes sense. I really like the way this tastes, but it's pretty damn sweet and I scored it accordingly.

4.0 M: Heavy body. Good moderate carbonation. Good creaminess. This would be smoother if it was less sweet, but still good enough.

3.5 D: Not the most drinkable beer, but it certainly is a bold one. Huge oak like it's brothers and a big Bruery sweetness to bring out the diabetes in everyone. (1,166 characters)

Photo of harrymel
4.05/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

So, this is a DOUBLE Marzen style oak aged lager. Bottled May 2010.

A: Pours an orange on red lager with a single finger of caramel head which falls over a couple minutes to a solid sheet of the same. Excellent clarity. Spotty on cobweb lacing.

S: As the title suggests, wood is king here. Oak, fired oak, sour oak, fresh oak. The beer has multiple layers of the tree playing with an herb I can't quite place, but it reminds me of Turkish food - it's very strong. Maybe tee-tree oil.

T: Man, I wish I could place this flavor, because it dominates the palate. Maybe it's just oak, but it has a distinct pine flavor. I can say that As the beer warms, there are some nice malt flavors of caramel and vanilla. Again, this is woody.

M: Medium to heavy for the style, moderate carb. Dry finish is spot on and aromatic.

O: Really interesting beer. I would definitely drink again. I don't know I would seek it out, but that's more or less because it is so strong on a flavor profile which is obscure if not unique to this beer. I think it is unfortunate that the beer has to be categorized under the marzen style, given that the beer is a Double/Imperial Marzen. Kudos to Odell heading a different direction with beer, and I'm glad I got to try this one. (1,251 characters)

Photo of emmasdad
3.48/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Went into this one with a little trepidation, as I was very unimpressed with #2, the only other one I've had in this series. Pours a darkish amber color, with a bit of off white head. Aromas of wood, cherries, coconut and toffee. On the palate, the toffee/caramel flavors stand out, but the wood/oak balances nicely. Much better than #2, and one I would try again. (364 characters)

Photo of Beaver13
3.73/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle. Bottled May 2010 - bottle number 1617. Pours a hazy tea brown with a monstrous creamy off-white head that retains well and laces the glass.

The aroma is caramel malts, vanilla, wood, some spices and dark fruit and alcohol.

The flavor is caramel malts and vanilla, with some fruits and a spicy cinnamon alcohol finish with a little bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with lowish carbonation.

Overall, it's a little hot and a bit on the sweet side, but I liked it. (496 characters)

Photo of nickd717
3.35/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A -bal aged lager, huh? Let's see.

Pours hazy medium amber with a small but lasting whitish head.

Aroma is oak and vanilla, sweet malt, caramel, and toffee.

Flavor is mildly sweet, very oaky, and a little piney. Decent hop bitterness. Not as tasty as expected.

Nice dry palate. Medium-full bodied and a little syrupy.

A little underwhelming overall, but a nice experiment. (377 characters)

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Woodcut No. 4 - Oak Aged Double Marzen-Style Lager from Odell Brewing Company
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