The Meddler - Odell Brewing Company

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The MeddlerThe Meddler

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Ratings: 207
Reviews: 46
rAvg: 4
pDev: 11.5%
Wants: 33
Gots: 43 | FT: 2
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Odell Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  8.90% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: denver10 on 09-10-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of mactrail
3.37/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Attractive dark amberish brown with persistent foam and lots of lacing. Smell is on the vinegary side with a little deep fruity funk. Sharp and sudsy with that fermented fruit vinegar going up the nose. The lactobacillus is doing its job and eradicated any trace of malty sweetness.

Acidic but foaming constantly in the mouth helps the sippability. A rather intense, bitter woody note lingers in the aftertaste. Light body. Overall this tastes like apple cider that has soured. None of the typical beery flavors of malt and certainly no hops.

For this style, drinkability is about average. It feels like the acidity is attacking my teeth, which is not my idea of fun. This style still tastes like a chemistry experiment to me. From the 750 ml bottle purchased for $14 in Denver.

Photo of beergoot
3.5/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cloudy brown body, topped with a rich, chunky, light brown head. The bottle foamed up and out of the bottle despite sitting sedately for a good, long time. Sour and acidic scent.; lots of booze to the nose; phenolic; very light hint of malt; sour green apples. Per the style description for Flanders Oud Bruin, very vinegary on the initial taste; definite Lambic sourness; some alcohol warmth; no real hop presence. Medium-light body; clean and smooth feel.

Not being overly familiar with the style, the beer does exhibit plenty of acidic sourness overall, so it would seem to meet the basic style characteristics. Still, I didn't detect any "hints of malty sweet chocolate and vanilla" as listed on the label. Lactic sourness: yes; malt-like flavors: no. Not something I would usually search out, but seems fair enough for what it is.

Photo of TotallyHosed
3.52/5  rDev -12%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The cork blew without any help -- POP! After staring at a snail paced gusher for a second, poured into a tulip which formed an aggressive khaki foam crown. The head gently receded into a one-eyed veil. The color is such a dark brown that no light is allowed through. I didn't know it was brown until I reached the end of the glass.

The nose is full of sour cherries and tart plums. The wood is very difficult to detect, but overall the smell is inviting.

Upfront I taste sweet malts, followed by a tart bite that doesn't linger. The flavor finishes dry and offers some wood character.

The creamy feel is sublime, with pleasant carbonation.

This is an enjoyable example of the style. The tart flavors are aggressive, but do not overpower others. My palate does not resonate with the sweet flavor and smell that this brew offers. My favorite aspect is the velvet feel.

Photo of BeerNFoodDood
3.68/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The Meddler

This beer pours a dark plum purple, near black color. Pours a pretty nice two finger head that is a caramel tan.

The nose consists of sweet dark fruit that is tangled in with lactic acidity. There is some oak on the nose but not overpowering. Definitely some blueberries and currents on the nose as well.

There is a lot of oak on the first taste. A little too much oak even for me. I taste more fruit on the second go at it. Lots of blueberries and lactic intermingled with a smoky maple flavor. Pretty complex taste, needs to lose a little oak.

Overall pretty good for an american shot at Oude Bruin, maybe not worth the price tag but good.

Cheers

Photo of kojevergas
3.7/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Brown glass bottle with hood and wire cap over a cork served into a Guiness goblet in me gaff in high altitude Castle Rock, Colorado. Reviewed live.

A: Pours a two finger light khaki head, fairly thin, of decent cream and good retention. Body colour is a dark amber-black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Sourness and bacteria, great yeast, and basic pale malts. An average strength aroma.

T: Sourness and bacterial notes. Neutral malts. A nice body. Quite well balanced. Well built. Nicely acidic. A tasty beer.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Good palate presence. Near ideal carbonation. Complements the aroma quite well.

Dr: Quite drinkable. An incredibly tasty sour beer. I'd definitely have this again. A very worthwhile sour. Hides its ABV well.

High B

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.79/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle pour for New Brew Thursday's 3rd Anniversary event held at Beachwood BBQ & Brewing in Long Beach, CA.

Pours a murky brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to a small cap on top of the beer. Foamy rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is sour and tart with some malt, fruit, and acidic aromas. Taste is much the same with a woody flavor on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is tasty but has a better smell in my opinion.

Photo of russpowell
3.82/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours mahogany with a pinky of tan head. Average head retention & lacing

S: Tart cherries & raspberries

T: Follows the nose, a touch of figs & raspberry sourness up front. Oaky dryness, cherries & figs, plus other jammy notes intertwined with sourness as this warms, a little bit of boozey peach juice too. Finishes warming, slightly boozey with raspberry vinagrette, leather & oakyness

MF: Medium bodied with slight carbonation that builds as this warms

A nice Old Bruin, one that will age well. A bit of time would smooth out some edges

Photo of chugalug06
3.83/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Nice three-finger, straw colored, loose foamed head. Brew is dark murky brown.

Smells acidic, lemon, orange, horsey, and grapefruit. Grassy.

Not nearly sour enough, IMO. Slight tartness, but no pucker factor. More barnyard funk then bite. Lots of horse blanket. Mostly dry and bitter. Carbonation is huge and well done. There's something in the brew that makes my head *twinge*

I thought Odell was going to finally ball-up and make a nice deep sour. Sad day. Recommended, but not as an extreme sour. Perfect 4.

Photo of Beaver13
3.85/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle. Pours a hazy amber brown with a medium creamy tan head that goes to a thin film and leaves some lacing.

The aroma is sweet caramel and candy fruit with a sour twang. It's a little subdued.

The flavor is sweet caramel malts and fruit with a big sour (candy apple) twang. The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, a nice lacto sour. This is much more intense and more sour than the first bottle I had.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.86/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Pours with a huge cream head. Deep red/brown body. Never quite settles.

Smell - Very acidic. Nice cherry acidity. Lots of malt and vanilla.

Taste - The malt comes out more here. Malt, oak, and vanilla come through nicely. Extremely sour, but it drops off after the initial taste.

Mouthfeel - Well carbonated. Over sour, but nice.

Overall - I rather enjoy this. Great barrel flavors.

Photo of mdfb79
3.88/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 12/29/12 notes. Thanks to nmann08 I think for sharing this one.

a - Pours an amber-brown color with one finger of off white head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells of roasted notes, sweet and sour dark fruits, tart cherries, oak, fruity malts, and some caramel malts. Lightly sour but nice overall.

t - Tastes of sour cherries, tart dark fruits, raspberries, oak, funk, roasted and toasted malts, fruity malts, acedic, some vanilla. More sour fruits than the nose; a step up for me.

m - Medium body and low to moderate carbonation. Lightly acedic, but not a lot.

o - Overall a very nice flanders. Nice sour cherries and dark fruits, especially in the taste. Would like to have it again.

Photo of LambicPentameter
3.9/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed out of a brown 750 mL cork & cage bottle with no obvious dating on the bottle. There is a Julian code-like number on the label, but I seem to be reading it wrong, because there aren't 500+ days in a year. I do, however, have a reasonably good idea that this bottle is from 2012. Poured into a Boulevard Smokestack tulip glass.

Appearance - Pretty active carbonation, with a careful pour still yielding a massive three-and-a-half finger head the color of light brown sugar. Pocking begins almost immediately, giving the tan bubbles the look of Lorraine Swiss. Where the foam meets the body, you can see the carbonation continuing to work away, making the line between the bubbles and liquid blurry with activity. The body is a coffee brown with some translucence, but the combination of massive head and some haziness makes it difficult for light to pass through.

Smell - Initially gives off a powerful waft of lacto and balsamic vinegar--so far so good. It reminds me a bit of other American takes on the Flanders Oud Bruin, with a bit of underlying malty sweetness to balance out the sourness. Notes of oxidized green apple and musty oak are also present.

Taste - Some of the lactic tartness from the nose is present, but more subdued than I expected. Instead of a puckering effect, there is really more of a funky, woody characteristic to it. Along side that mustiness are notes of apple cider vinegar and sour cherries, but faint. And beneath it all is a surprisingly aggressive malt sweetness in the background. It really cuts through and almost overpowers that wonderful tartness. The finish has dried leather and wet hay alongside the slight twinge of the lacto, which never completely fades.

Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied and moderate-to-low carbonation, in spite of the huge head. Maybe low carbonation isn't the right word, but it's not very prickly to the tongue.

Overall, a solid take on the style, but I can't say I'm devastated that Odell hasn't produced this in a couple years. They make a much better sour beer that is still in production, and while I'm glad to have tried this one, in my opinion it doesn't quite hold up to the best in style from American brewers.

Photo of brentk56
3.9/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Warning - take care opening this bottle as the explosion of the cork could be dangerous

Appearance: After an explosion of the cork and a major degree of gushing, the head settles down on the cola brown liquid, leaving a smattering of lace behind

Smell: Lactic dark cherry and balsamic vinegar elements, with a hint of chocolate

Taste: With a hint of chocolate at the outset, the lactic sourness kicks in quickly, bringing sour dark cherry and balsamic vinegar elements; oak and a hint of vanilla arrive, after the swallow, with acetic sourness in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate to high carbonation; puckery

Overall: But for the carbonation issues, this is a good example of the style; not a lot of funk but it brings the other elements of an Oud Bruin to the table

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.94/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up at the COOP tonight ... poured into my slim tulip... 2 finger tan head... the brew is hazed walnut brown... good lacing despite a short retention time... could definitely be more clear.

Nose is aged balsamic with some light cocoa... light cherry essence... with warmth a little fig sweetness emerges so does a bit of sherry.

Flavor is not as pungent as many American takes on an Oud Bruin... sweet and sour... the balsamic character is present but much less than the aroma... as it warms up more malt character comes out... toffee/cocoa... fruity esters show as cherry and a bit of light prune.

Body is about right at medium... carbonation is low/medium... again about right.

Pretty nicely done.. Much more like a European version of the style than many of the American sour monsters. A bit expensive at $13, but I respect the time and style ... so I will probably buy a couple more to have around for when the feeling strikes.

3/4/4/4/4

Photo of homebrew311
3.96/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured in snifter at brewery. Appearance is a dark brownish red with tan head. Heavy lacing left behind. Nose features tart and sweet qualities with notes of cherry, oak, red wine, and vinegar. Taste has mild tartness up front with a healthy dose of cherry and a bit of tartness at the back of the palate. Not super tart, but definitely some acid. Mouthfeel is light and has low carbonation for style. Overall, a nice and approachable oude bruin with a high amount of sweetness for the style.

Photo of wethorseblanket
3.97/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to DenverBeerDrinker for this. Bottle # 14019-12.

A: Pours a dark brown with reddish edges under a 1-finger thick off-white/tannish head which fades slowly to the rim and cap leaving spotty lace.

N: Tannic oak wood, dark fruits and berries, some mild acetic notes.

T: Slightly sour oak wood along with dark cherry pits, Slightly sweet and astringent.

M: Medium body and carbonation. Finish is somewhat sour with lingering tannins.

O: Nice and well balanced Flanders style.

Photo of Scotchboy
3.97/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap @ Bier:Thirty Boise ID. Served in a tulip.

A: Very dark brown body, with hints of light tan...opaque, with some off-white head that fizzles quickly away to a consistent ring.

S: Tart upfront, but subdued and not overtly sour. Cherries are there, as well as some funk and lacto. Notes from a darker, sweet malt base weave in and out of the aromas, hints of brown sugar and oak smoothness.

T: Follows the nose, supremely drinkable for the style...the oak has integrated well and taken hold...finish is dry. Oak and sweeter cherry notes, and again some hints of brown sugar and malt sweetness.

Not too tart for those who are looking for a sour beer...this is just solid cherry flavor and nice elements of oak.

MF: Moderate body, definitely creamy and well carbonated, not too puckering in this case.

O: An enjoyable Flanders for me, though not too tart or sour. Take that into consideration.

Photo of thagr81us
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks goes out to Beer_Viking for sharing this one during the One Year Anniversary of My Wreck Tasting! Served from bottle into a Crooked Stave ‘Crooked Line’ tulip. Poured a dark red brown with a minimal off-white head. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, sour, tart, wood, and fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, sour, tart, fruit, and wood. It had a light feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this was a good brew. I really went into this one not knowing at all what to expect. However, what I found actually was quite nice. While it was not the most complex brew that I have ever had, it did quite well with what it had going on. The woodness was a nice touch to add just a hint of earthiness to the brew. This fact mixed quite well with all of the sour and fruit going on. Really glad I got the chance to try this one and I suggest you do the same if/when you get an opportunity.

Photo of claspada
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy generic brown color with some ruby around the edges of the glass and some decent size tan bubbly head that recedes at an average pace leaving some solid lacing.

The aromas begin with light vinegar, a solid amount black cherry fruitiness and light woody funk underneath. Some of the base beer breadiness emerges as well as more an more oak as it warms.

The tastes follow the nose with the soft acetic vinegar flavors which blend nicely with the Brett induced black cherry fruitiness. As it warms the wood and funk emerge more as more just as with the aromas.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Finish is dominated by a solid but not overbearing black cherry tartness.

Overall I really enjoyed this beer, even though it was not stellar in any facet. There is a super balance between the Bretty sour cherry flavors and the toasted bready malty backbone. Much more sour than Saboteur and less alcoholic as well, which is a plus. The Brett flavors are much more balanced than Shenanigans which came out earlier this year. Basically this is one of the more drinkable Sour Ales they have done and is ready to drink right now compared to Saboteur or Deconstruction which needed some time to develop.

Photo of JoEBoBpr
4.02/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a tulip glass from a 750ml bottle.

Pours a nice rich dark mahogany with a slight ruby red edge. There is a nice half inch head that is dense and slightly chunky. The color is a light tan and recedes at a moderate pace.

Aroma is delicious. Nice balsamic vinegar notes with some great slight cherry notes. Tart and also fruity. There are some nice slight woody notes with midl cinnamon and some good vinous character as well.

Flavor starts off with vinegar tartness. Then some nice malty grainy roast pops up with some slight deep caramel notes. This is then followed by some nice fruity tartness and mild cherry notes. There is some woody notes mixed in there that is mixed in with some slight cinnamon and some spice. The flavor notes are all very good but I wish there was a little bit more punch to them. They seem just a bit subdued. The mouthfeel is very good for the style. Vibrant carbonation and good lighter body.

Overall this brew is very good. One of my favorite Odell's sours. They seem to have hit their stride with this one. Nice vinegar notes with some slight fruit sweetness and some cherry tartness also. SLight leathery notes and some good woody finish.

Photo of SoundDude
4.03/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I wasn't sure what to expect as I'm that experienced with this style of beer. I wanted a growler of something different so I gave it a try. The pour is a beautiful tawny color with a nice 1-2 finger head. The head reduces to a ring that tracks its way down the glass. The nose is at first somewhere between slight vinegar and a old tawny port. The initial taste is "what just hit me"? It's a complex taste that's going to take a bit to sort out. The first thing I taste is the sour, It hits my taste buds and wakes them up. It is not an overpowering sour, but it is the first thing I notice. Next there's a fruity zest in the equation. Tart berries, maybe a touch of red wine. The aftertaste is very pleasant and asks for more. I would definitely buy this again.

Photo of Bitterbill
4.03/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A really dark pour, looks black to me, with a 1 finger head of foam with some great lacing.

I get a big fruity tartness on first smell, second smell..some hints of chocolate and vanilla. Blimey, the label mentions the latter 2.

Fruity/vinegar sourness and vanilla up front in the taste. Some sugary sweetness mixed in there that is nice but confuses my palate somewhat. It finishes sour and gives me a blast of the alcohol.

On the upper end of medium bodied with lively carbonation, it's a good mouthfeel here and is pretty drinkable.

I think this is a very good take of, based on my limited experience with, the style. It's surely worth a try.

Photo of Tone
4.04/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown color. One inch head of an off-tan color. Great retention and great lacing. Smells of cherry sourness, alcohol, sweet malt, slight pale malt, and slight oak. Fits the style of a Flander Oud Bruin. Mouth feel is sharp and crisp, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of slight liquor, alcohol, oak, cherry sourness, sweet malt, and slight malt. Overall, great appearance and blend; the body is pleasantly sour and the liquor flavors are not dominate.

Photo of JEdmund
4.04/5  rDev +1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dark brown, almost black, with a small head. Not much to look at really.

But there is much to appreciate in the aroma. Big sour notes, coupled with familiar brown ale qualities, like chocolate and coffee and sweet dough.

Taste is complex—sourness and vanilla oak sweetness co-mingle with a brown ale in a really intriguing manner. There’s a slight roast bitterness lurking in there as well. This is one of the better wild ales I’ve had in that the Brett hasn’t made it a one-dimensional beer. Good carbonation and lightness keep this hefty brew deceptively drinkable.

Overall this one’s a winner! I think I like it more than their other brown ale with wild yeast, Saboteur. I will be cellaring a bottle of The Meddler to see how it develops over the next year.

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.06/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle opened on 12.24.12

A - Pours a very dark brown-cola color iwth a two inch foamy khaki head with great retention.

S - Very funky at first, then earthy, wood, some subtle chocolate and vanilla in the finish.

T - Tart and funky for sure. The flavor follow just as the nose did.

D - Tons of carbonation with a lighter body.

O - Tart and Funky with some chocolate and vanilla trying to show up.

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The Meddler from Odell Brewing Company
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