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Deviant Dale's IPA - Oskar Blues Grill & Brew

Deviant Dale's IPADeviant Dale's IPA

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BA SCORE
90
outstanding

2,312 Ratings
THE BROS
87
very good

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Ratings: 2312
Reviews: 574
rAvg: 4.03
pDev: 11.17%


Brewed by:
Oskar Blues Grill & Brew visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
American IPA |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Jason on 01-16-2011)
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DenverHopHead

Colorado

4.35/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 16oz can, with a "canned on" date of 3/6/14; into a pint glass.
Appearance - orange with a medium white head; lacing is absolute art work!
Smell - an impressive blend of citrus, pine and grass hops with a sweet malt presence.
Taste - flavorful and surprisingly well balanced!
Feel - a fairly complex brew with a terrific hop/malt balance!
Overall - this is a great "Jack of all trades" IPA and the fact that it's available in a tall boy can, nice touch!

Serving type: can

04-20-2014 01:12:20 | More by DenverHopHead
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JuicesFlowing

Kansas

4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a balloon glass.

Look: Murky orangish-copper body, light cream colored head that recedes to a patch of film with nice sticky lacing.

Aroma: Hops, caramel, salted meats.

Taste: Musty cardboard with salt coating, astringent grapefruit peel finish. Seductive caramel candy hidden in the middle.

Mouthfeel: Pretty thick.

Overall: I love the taste. This is definitely a one-timer though. It's so heavy but definitely enjoyable.

Serving type: can

04-12-2014 09:07:55 | More by JuicesFlowing
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jwc215

Wisconsin

3.93/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Canned on 01/04/14 stamped on bottom:

Pours slightly hazed orange amber. A thin head leaves plenty of lacing.

The smell is of orange rind, grapefruit and caramel.

The taste is of orange, grapefruit, musty tobacco leaves and pine/resin backed by caramel and biscuit notes. Alcohol is reasonably tame in the taste for the 8% abv level. Juicy hops linger through the finish.

It is pretty smooth despite slight rawness.

It is complex and bold, rich in hops and malt. A strong IPA that pushes towards a DIPA. Very enjoyable!

Serving type: can

04-09-2014 22:02:03 | More by jwc215
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TempeBeerMan

Arizona

4.24/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a can into a nonic pint.

A - Pours a slightly hazy orange marmalade color with a thick, two-finger white head. Excellent head retention. Sticky rings of lacing. Looks amazing!

S - Strong aroma of citrusy hops and butterscotch like malt.

A - The sweet honey-like malts present in the nose surprisingly take center stage. Hops are extremely lush and fruity, with pineapple, grapefruit and papaya like esters, and mild bitterness. Rich. Pine, Maui onion, and even a hint of cannabis dankness in the finish. Not your average IPA flavors by any means. Very tasty.

M - Full bodied and medium carbonated. Very smooth feel, not oily or acidic, almost velvety. Coats the mouth. Interesting.

O - Everything about this beer is different and unusual, and I really enjoyed it. Call me crazy, but almost a cross between an old ale and an IPA. Definitely one of the sweetest IPA's I've ever had, and the mouth feel is DIPA/IIPA all the way.

Serving type: can

04-02-2014 04:57:28 | More by TempeBeerMan
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hoppyturt

Washington

3.61/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served from a can into a room temp pint glass. Pours a golden caramel color with a frothy head. Strong nose of black pepper and sweet onion. Taste is very forward with floral and earthy characteristics. Bitterness is noticeable but doesn't linger. Overall this is a good ipa, but the sweet onion is overpowering

Serving type: can

03-28-2014 19:45:35 | More by hoppyturt
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Act25

New Jersey

4.31/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Dales is my daily go-to beer, and I am a fan of Oskar, so this review will be high.

The increased ABV and body over Dales turns up the sweetness, and mouth feel.
It's a tie with Dales they are two different brews, cousins, but depending on your mood each could be on top at a given moment.

A: Darker, more haze, more rocky head, like cotton candy, followed by even stickier lace. Near perfect.
S: Fruit, grass, wet leaves, herbs, hemp, pine, honey wrap around your senses as you sniff this.
Like smoking weed.
T: Follows the smell, a bit sweeter than Dales. A nice long flavor arc: all of the above, and a cleansing, tingly finish.
MF: Body, weight, all the above, and long long finish. Not a first of the night beer. A great last of the night beer. Super-charged balance of malt and hops.

A must try, I'd like to keep one always around.

Serving type: bottle

03-28-2014 02:06:03 | More by Act25
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jokelahoma

Missouri

4.45/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours the color of a nice shiny copper medallion. Remarkable clarity for a really hoppy beer.

Aroma is just what you'd expect from a big IPA. It's citrusy almost to the point of zest with a little candied fruit aroma in there as well. My crazy nose also gets some apricot and/or some tropical fruit. There's a tiny tease of malt, but it seems to be peeking out from the corner more than strutting its stuff. None of this smells harsh in any way, just sweet and appetizing.

The first thing that hits you about the flavor is that the flavor doesn't hit you. By that I mean this isn't the type of brew to grab hold of your salivary glands and start beating on them, like many of the super-bitter varieties. This just casually slides in with a nonchalant "hey", but there's not doubt it has arrived. Kind of like Mick Jagger walking into the party in Carly Simon's "You're So Vain", in a way. (That *is* who that song is about, right? Right?) Like any good double IPA, this isn't just a hop bomb. The malt here is the canoe the hops float in on, and it does a great job of keeping them together, high and dry. It's tough to tell which you notice first, the great flavor of the malt, or the bitterness that it carries. Regardless, it isn't the bitterness or the malt backbone that ultimately grabs your focus, it's the flavor of the hops which gets your attention. This is really well put together. Not as much of a perception of bitter as a "regular" IPA because of more malt to stand up to it, the hop flavor carries the day. And what a flavor it is. All the citrus zest and candied fruit from the aroma are still here, and their flavor works exceptionally well with the malts, rather than fighting them for supremacy. It's tough to imagine an easier to drink 8% ABV DIPA. This works on just about every level.

Mouthfeel is pretty much a "medium" in that it isn't light and watery, and it isn't thick and chewy or oily. It's just enough to let you know you have a big beer in your glass and you should treat it accordingly, without ever making you question "do I want any more of this?".

This is easily one of my favorite DIPAs. The balance is fantastic, the flavors suit me to a "T", and everything seems to fit just right. I see a lot more excuses for crossing the state line now that this is available one state over. Not only worth seeking out, you should make it a point to do so.

Serving type: can

03-24-2014 00:18:02 | More by jokelahoma
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sommersb

Tennessee

4.23/5  rDev +5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Tasted On: 03-23-2014
Freshness: Canned on 02-18-2014
Packaging: 16 oz. can
Glassware: Nonic pint
Purchased: 4-pack from Frugal MacDoogal, Nashville

A: Attractive beer that is clear and copper-colored. The head is huge and leaves behind an excellent web of lace and has very good retention.

S: The floral and citrus hop aromas make this a wonderful beer to smell.

T: Bitter taste up front from citrus/grapefruit hop flavors, with enough malt in the background to keep things somewhat in check. Also get some alcohol warming.

M: Full-bodied and medium in carbonation, the mouthfeel seems spot-on. Bitter resins make up the aftertaste, but the fruitiness helps take off the edge.

O: Overall a really well-executed high gravity IPA.

Serving type: can

03-24-2014 00:17:03 | More by sommersb
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DoreenAndDave

Maine

4.11/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer pours a clear amber. Beige head with nice lacing. Aroma is piney and resinous. Taste follows the nose. Some malt up front with a powerful hop finish: pine, pot, and slightly sweet. Mouthfeel is good. A bit heavy but not in a bad way. This is a big, substantial beer with some serious piney hops. Overall, an excellent beer.

Serving type: can

03-23-2014 02:16:59 | More by DoreenAndDave
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Beerlover

Minnesota

4.18/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

can't resist an ipa that's new to distribution in the state, especially when it's in a can!! (CAN when you can!)
A:great gold color, not overly bubbly, 2 inch off white head and leaving some wicked good lacing around the glass.
S: one of the more piney i.p.a.s I've smelled in a while, very resinous smelling.
T: whaaaat!? wow this is really good, and really different. the piney resinous-ness is there but not overpowering as the aroma may imply. There is also this sweet sugary after taste that I have never tasted before in any style of beer that is very delicious!!
M; low high carbonation which I love in any style of beer, leaves a semi dry after taste probably coming from the resiny hops.
o.a. 8.5 outta 10 on beerlover's rating scale, I would definitely buy this again, may have even rateded higher if I hadn't had so many good pale ales and india pales lately!

Serving type: can

03-20-2014 04:18:05 | More by Beerlover
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RickS95

Indiana

4.61/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Really a stunner. Has the nice, cloudy orange color. The head forms in a cascading fashion and is as thick as you'd like. Amazing retention. Huge meringue like craters and valleys. Large and small bubbles with an almost crusty lace.

The scent is a combination of English malt and Pacific Northwestern hops, citrus and pine standing front and center. A bit of orange rind rounds out the smell.

One of the best IPAs I've had. Lots of citrus in the taste, enough malt so you don't ceviche your tongue, and plenty of pine so the flavor never fades.

Yes, it's bitter, but that's the idea. It's not a palate crusher because it's well balanced. A lot of acid mixed in with malty sweetness. Almost full bodied, it's got plenty to keep the palate busy. The pine grabs your tongue and won't let go.

Just off the top of my head, one of the three or four best IPAs I've had. Not quite as sweet as Zombie Dust or Pliny the Elder, but this beer is right up there. Easy to drink despite solid bitterness and a good amount of alcohol. The tall boy can is just a bonus.

Serving type: bottle

03-15-2014 03:52:12 | More by RickS95
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

4.14/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

If Dale's Pale Ale sold its soul to the devil, to gain greater teeth-churning hop flavor and an impossible sense of drinkability, then each and every sip is well worth it!

The charming ale kicks off with a bright amber-gold pour. Its fine haze allows for the bright glow, giving the beer an appealing look. Its cream-colored, cream-textured foam blanket rises strongly and withstands the session with ease, lacing the glass with intricacy and broken collars.

Its fruit-filled aromas are all things citrus and tropical. With a wrap of caramel and honey, the scent of candied fruit wafts over the nose immediately. Red grapefruit, tangerine, pineapple and mango lead the way as the juicy leaf scent comes forth with fresh-cut grass, herbal lemongrass and broken pine needles.

As the lightly sticky malt grazes against the tongue, the thin sweetness of caramel and honey work in tandem to give the hop's fruit character a brighter, riper and plumper taste. Seemingly dripping with fruit sugars, the middle palate is alive with juices of grapefruit, orange and Hawaiian punch. As notions of sherbet come to mind, the herbaceous and bitter taste of hops put a stranglehold on the back of the throat with deeply resinous pine, grass and a light nod to hop's cannabis cousin.

Deviant's early texture is pleasantly creamy even though it is malty-dry. Its enhanced carbonation pulls from the shy malt sweetness and lightens the body until the hop resins and alcohol warm and dry the ale delicately in its fast-fleeting finish.

Deviant Dale's IPA is a supercharged hop-bomb with just enough malt support to keep from mistaking the beer for alcoholic fruit juice. Its exquisite balance and drinkability is a welcome rarity.

Serving type: can

03-05-2014 17:24:22 | More by BEERchitect
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magictacosinus

California

3.91/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

As mentioned in an earlier review, it's hard to review Oskar Blues these days because I cannot often find single cans broken from any of their 4-6 packs for me to sample. For that matter, I was quite excited when I found a can of this (as well as some G'Knight) at a local market in Arcata in early January. Canned on "11/29/13." Consumed about 5 weeks later. Poured out of a 16oz can into a tulip glass.

I had this right before G'Knight in the same evening, and I suppose the only difference between the two is the clarity of the beer, as well as its overall viscosity. Otherwise, they're practically the same - this one, at least, is a reddish amber beer with a frothy, fluffy off-khaki head that rises to the top of the tulip and dissipates rather soon, leaving behind a ton of sticky foam at the sides, as well as a half finger of head that persists throughout. Not too many bubbles show, but at least its a different take on the style rather than the constant orange amber that seems to be synonymous with IPAs.

Smells pretty solid, and although it's definitely a hoppy beer, as I can tell at the nose, it's also more on the malty, biscuit-like side that many amber ales are known for, including those that are hoppier. Notes of blood orange, grapefruit, and pine make up most of the aroma, with some peppery, herbal notes that meld into the cracked toasted grainy aroma. The finish is melded with extra breadiness and caramel, with a brief spiciness and sweetness that makes this very refreshing. It's definitely not very complex, but there's nothing wrong with it, either.

The flavor continues the malt bomb, but this time around, there's a relative balance between the citrus bitterness from the hops and the biscuit qualities from the malts. This is kind of the Colorado equivalent of Ballast Point's Big Eye IPA, although it's a little bit sweeter and therefore far more to my liking. Starts with good notes of orange peel, grapefruit, stone fruits, and intense pine, soon to be followed by some brief floral notes and slight pepper that melds into the caramel, English-bitter style biscuit flavor. Finishes extra grainy with a brief astringency from the hops but an overall palate cleansing process from the entire combination of ingredients. Finishes with brief bitterness, yet overall clean. Carbonation is quite good for the type of beer it is, and remains crisp in feel as well as balanced when it comes to the booze and extra sugars. A pretty solid, old school IPA overall.

This is a throwback to some of the older IPA recipes that hang around, and in the environment of palate destroying astringent bitter beers, it's very welcome overall in my glass. I do wish that it weren't as malty for an IPA, but I can't complain too much with the delightful citrus notes that stick around. There's nothing too demonic about this, though - personally, G'Knight was far more intense and sweet. This still stands as a solid beer and shows that Oskar Blues really is among some of the great larger craft breweries out there.

Serving type: can

03-04-2014 05:40:37 | More by magictacosinus
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lordofstarside

Nevada

3.86/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Canned 2/14 Pouring some into a snifter for look and aroma, taste is from the can

Pours a vibrant golden orange with a finger of slightly tan foam that's died down sorta quick. Good lacing with a moderate carbonation stemming from the center. Good clarity, this is a fun one to look at

Smells of pretty earthy and floral hops backed with some pine and a bit of tangerine and grapefruit, not as fruity as most ipas out there. A sweet caramel malt holds it together and finishes with a bit of alcohol

Taste isn't quite on par with the nose but translates roughly the same. Big earthy hops with strong floral notes, finishing with just a little citrus. The caramel in the malt is a bit sweeter than in the aroma and the alcohol is definitely more present

Feel is a medium body with a bit of a wet finish. Good bitterness, alcohol present but still drinks well

Overall a pretty good beer. Glad to have Oscar Blues back in Nevada

Serving type: bottle

03-04-2014 02:41:39 | More by lordofstarside
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TheFizzinator

Minnesota

4.13/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a delicious light brown reddish color, lots of head into my Bells goblet. My nose is picking up a smidgen of honey with some peach notes. The smell is alluring and very heavy hitting. The taste is a hop smack to the face with a nice sustained bitterness throughout mixed with the floral tendencies. moutfeel is a medium/heavy carbonation with a lightweight body giving it a unique feeling as it goes down.

Not a world beating IPA, but I definitely enjoyed it. It's for the true hop heads the like the bitterness bite in their beer.

Serving type: can

02-24-2014 22:50:16 | More by TheFizzinator
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tjsdomer2

Illinois

4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Appearance: I wish there was much more foam, as there is very little to speak of. Foam is also scare, but the hazy, orange, unfiltered color is outstanding.

Smell: Honey and peaches with a strong pine finish.

Taste/Mouthfeel: Initially there is sour lemon and pine. A strong flavor of apricots and honey also resonates throughout. Mouthfeel is a tad thin, but with decent crispness.

Overall Drinkability: Not as good as the original, but still tasty and quite strong.

Serving type: can

02-24-2014 00:41:42 | More by tjsdomer2
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vkv822

Oregon

3.99/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

16oz : SN IPA Glass

Pours a beautiful hazy, coppery golden red with a thick, foamy off white head.

Big resiny, citric, grapefruit hops. With a solid, but unobtrusive caramel malt backbone.

Medium+ body, lightly syrupy, oily mouthfeel.

A very well done IPA. Big hop character, with a large malt backbone as well.

Serving type: bottle

02-23-2014 09:09:59 | More by vkv822
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Yeroc

Pennsylvania

4.13/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Appearance - poured from a 16 ounce can into a 20 ounce "nonic" glass. Nice copper color with beautiful 2 finger head.

Smell - beautiful aroma. Fruity almost sweet smell but picking up on some floral and citrus. Again, great aroma.

Taste - a little different than aroma. Front of the tongue and top of the mouth hops. Picking up some mango perhaps along with some floral taste yet.

Mouthfeel - good mouthfeel with a medium body. Pretty smooth with a slight, very slight, dry finish.

Overall - don't let the can fool you. This is a good brew. Not in my top 10 but certainly a serviceable brew that I can see purchasing again.

Serving type: can

02-15-2014 00:40:07 | More by Yeroc
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JackieTH

Minnesota

4.21/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Apricot-orange brew with a big foamy head that recedes slowly with ample lacing. Smells delicious. Apricots, citrus, mango. Tropical. Taste has notes of pine resin, ruby red grapefruit pith, a bit floral. Moderate bitterness but with an ample malt backbone. It's tasty and juicy, but where did those tropical notes go? Medium body with creamy mouthfeel. Holds together well and leaves the palate wet and quenched.

Serving type: can

02-13-2014 04:05:18 | More by JackieTH
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a0lbudman

Alabama

4.01/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-Dark gold color with a large white head thats leaves a lace
S-hops with a citrus mixture aroma
T-the citrus flavor and hops hit at first that goes to a deep hop aftertaste that stays with you
M-medium body and medium carbonation
O-This was an outstanding beer that I feel I could drink all night

Serving type: bottle

02-07-2014 02:57:06 | More by a0lbudman
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BierJager89

California

4.05/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Syrupy, translucent red-orange with a foamy, slightly tan head.

S: Lots of orange, some lemon, some grapefruit, mango, passionfruit, in a very tropical nose.

T: Lots of pine, some citrus, mainly orange, floral hops that really go up toward the nose from the back of the throat.

M: Medium-light bodied, kind of frothy, but smooth.

O: Taste was a bit of a letdown, as the nose was tropical, and the taste was lacking in that respect.

Serving type: can

02-06-2014 01:01:06 | More by BierJager89
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nycbeerfreak

New York

4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A. Huge frothy light amber head. The color was what I look for , a deep copper-orange.

S. The aroma of pine cones is dominant

T. Nicely balanced hops and malt and alcohol.
Citrusy, bitter, with the flavors of the smell.
As it became room temp. the flavors turned to high hopiness, piney resins, and malt sweetness

M. Nice resinous, flavors of pine, citrus, and again the malt sweetness.

O. Overall this beer belongs alongside all Oskar Blues great beers !! KILLS DUDE

Serving type: can

02-05-2014 07:38:59 | More by nycbeerfreak
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bsp77

Minnesota

3.98/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Serving glass: Poured from can into Nonic Pint.

Appearance: Clear, light amber with moderate white head and nice lacing.

Smell: Citrusy, with both orange and grapefruit. Some toasted and caramel malts. Somewhat sweet aroma.

Taste: Malts are evident at first, somewhat on the sweet side, with caramel and toasted malts. Very citrusy hops, but not too much bitterness.

Feel: Moderate carbonation with a fairly smooth and creamy body. However, the finish is not quite dry enough for my preferences, but is not a major distraction.

Overall: Comes across as a somewhat typical IPA but one on the sweeter side of the spectrum. Still quite delicious.

Serving type: can

02-04-2014 04:00:20 | More by bsp77
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ToriBug13

California

3.94/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Oskar Blues Deviant Dale IPA

Appearance: Poured into the glass, gorgeous thick, full, fluffy head topped this murky caramel brew. Sad there's not more clarity, and the head retention was kind of a let down.

Smell: Definitely an IPA. Nice sweet malt balanced with the citrus and pine I have come to expect from a good IPA. But the scent seems as though it has been restrained somehow.

Taste&Mouthfeel: Oh wow! Super amazing taste! From the appearance and smell I never would have thought I could rate the taste so highly! Nice full body, with the slightly sweet malt to the forefront of the taste. On the middle of the tongue hints the tropical fruits, apricot, peach, lemon zest, and pine from the hops- this beer is ever so refreshing and delicious! Great carbonation, balance, and overall taste.

Overall: Worth every penny, truly a great IPA to sit and enjoy!

Serving type: can

02-01-2014 03:49:41 | More by ToriBug13
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seand

California

4.04/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours a dark amber with a fair amount of off-white head. A somewhat solid layer retains, leaving good lacing.

S: Sweet grassy floral hops, with light grain.

T: Lightly sweet, with a nice underlying floral sweet note throughout. It becomes a touch more bitter as the hops come out through the middle and to the finish, but remains a sweet note underneath.

M: Medium to full body, medium carbonation.

Overall, quite a nice IPA, and nice to have it in a can.

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2014 03:25:56 | More by seand
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Deviant Dale's IPA from Oskar Blues Grill & Brew
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