Green Flash Grand Cru - Green Flash Brewing Co.

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85
very good

420 Ratings
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Ratings: 420
Reviews: 172
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 12.17%
Wants: 14
Gots: 23 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Green Flash Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.10% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: kleffman on 03-03-2008)
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Photo of mentor
3.05/5  rDev -19.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a thin layer of tanned head over a very dark brown liquid. Brown with some ruby when held to light. Smells clovey, pumpkin pie spice, dry chocolate, mild roast, and underneath is a smell you'd get at a gasoline pump. Was expecting dark fruity esters, but get only canned pears.

Tastes chocolatey with some cream and a dash of smoke. Mild clove, some dark fruits. Nice brown ale character and toasted caramel malt note beneath the phenols. For me, the phenols are almost overbearing (probably correct for the style, my palate is *very* sensitive to phenols). Finishes with a spicy zing that could be alcohol sting mixed with spice (pumpkin pie). Dry mouth afterward with something I can only describe as 'strung-out caramel' that lingers.

While little carbonation when poured, and fizzy at that, the beer is quite full of carbonation when it hits the tongue. Md-thick, but a late dextrinous thickness helps the body. Overall, a flat presentation of what can be an engaging style.

Photo of hophead247
3.68/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark amber to cola brown color with reddish highlights and a thin off-white head. Aroma is malty and sweet with notes of ripe fruit, caramel, honey, grains. Flavor is sweet and floral with notes of honey, spice, flowers, caramel, anise. Generally medium body with a sweet malty finish. Not a big fan of the style, but this one was drinkable.

Photo of MisterClean
4.6/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 from total wine tustin

A - Poured a light brown with mahogany highlights. Left 2 fingers of capuccino head and dissipated moderately. Left little lacing.

S - Medium roast coffee, cherries, grapefruity hops, light alcohol, and funk from the yeast.

T - Medium roast coffee, cherries, grapefruit hops, and brown sugar. Shit blew my mind. Awesome!

M - Full-bodied, malt dominated, and smooth.

D - Great. Will seek out again, fantastic beer. Almost tastes like its made with a Belgian Abbey and California Ale yeast (cherry flavors).

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to slasher007 for sharing this bottle.

Pours dark brown with a white head. The aroma is very sweet with dark fruit. The flavor is Belgian yeast and cand-sugar with some dark fruit mixed in. The alcohol is present and is warming. A pretty basic Belgian-inspired beer, but nothing special. Still, I don't think anyone will be disappointed if they try it.

Photo of Metalmonk
4.35/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A styrofoam-tight tan head, about a half-inch thick, sits firmly and tightly on top, taking quite some time to diminish to a thinner layer. Color is a deep dark brown, just a few minor shades from black. Lace strings stick to the sides of the glass.

Aroma is a big swirl of yeast, dark fruit (plum, raisin/grape, fig) and milk chocolate/chocolate milk. Has an herbal/spice thing happening in the background, which merges fully with the rest of the characteristics with warming.

Flavor touches on some of the aspects of the aroma, but mostly goes another way, somewhere pretty far off the beaten path of big dark Belgian ales. I get a fluffy marshmallow creme thing here, burnt popcorn too, with citrusy hops hovering underneath these bolder, more unusual flavors. Graham cracker comes on big time, as does cola, watery chocolate milk, anise and an overall vinous character. Alcohol lends a peppery nip.

Dry, with just a little tartness resulting in some pucker, and something reminding of wet creek stones (mineral) in the back. Slick, only medium carbonation and body. Almost airy, but never wimpy.

I understand this isn't a cherished Green Flash beer, but I think it's wonderful. Despite calling this "Grand Cru" (bad choice) and despite the use of Belgian yeast, it's unfair to judge this by Belgian dark ale standards. Just too much of a belligerent west coast vibe here; the label reads "mysterious dark ale," and that's exactly right. Seems obvious Green Flash attempted a hybrid of two different worlds here. I'd put it closest to whatever a Belgian Black IPA might taste like, which probably gives style-purists a heart attack. Is there nothing Green Flash does that is less than mighty?

Photo of SLeffler27
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark walnut, almost black, with rich, dark brown highlights. A thick, creamy beige head leaves dense patches of lace.

Pungent aromas of dark fruits, spices, pumpernickel-bread-dough, are followed by sweet floral notes, oak, honey, and light mustiness. The olfactory will be delighted with this rich and heavily layered experience.

The flavors fail to follow through with the promise from the aromas. Harsh astringency and bitterness was unexpected and is unwelcome.

This is a medium bodied, dry ale with moderate carbonation. The sharp alcohol accentuates metallic notes.
This would probably be better with strong-flavored foods like fatty, creamy dishes. The astringency prevents this from being considered a sipping beer.

Photo of ccrida
3.53/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bomber that I've aged for about 8 months, poured into my large St. Feuillien goblet, Grand Cru is cola brown with a very creamy little tan head that leaves nice foamy lace.

Smell is sweet and estery, dark fruits, and spicy, herbal, anise.

Taste is also estery, but there's a dark malt taste that brings it into Belgian porter territry, which I really dig, and is reinforced by the anise. However, I'm not a fan of black licorice, and could do without it.

Mouthfeel is super creamy, medium bodied and dry.

Drinkability is ok, I like the Belgian porter style, but could do without the spices, namely anise. It is also a touch heavy for a BSDA.

Photo of Gavage
4.05/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: dark borwn in color with a 1" head that sports some large bubbles and lasts a while. Spotty lace develops during the session.

Smell: caramel, some bitterenss, and some citrus is easy to detect.

Taste: big malt profile with raisins, prunes, brown sugar, a nicely warming alcohol, and a decent bitterness are most noticeable. There is a bit of earthiness to this beer that shows up late.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Lightly crisp to start, smooth at the finish.

Drinkability: nice overall flavors, but alcohol level knocks this down a notch. Slow sipping but more than one glass can be enjoyed here.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Roasted chestnut brown that becomes dusky garnet when backlit with afternoon sunshine. Generous carbonation has created three full fingers of butter toffee colored cream that is passably Belgian in appearance. Several sheer sheets of sea foam suds... sell shiny sea shells by the sea shore. Sorry, got carried away there.

Not that I can tell them apart in most cases, and they're pretty similar anyway, but I would have guessed dubbel if blinded. Steely caramel and medium-dark fruit leads the way, with just enough Belgian yeast spiciness to make it work. A lack of boldness is the only reason for the above score.

Green Flash Grand Cru, while a pretty good effort, doesn't get it done in the end. That is, if we're comparing it to the bona fide (read: Belgian) versions of the style. Which we are. For starters, there's too much unmasked alcohol. The result is a beer that has too much harshness and heat. Tastes like 26-proof, not 18-proof.

The brewers hit the malt bill nail on the head, and the yeast strain is pretty estery as well. This really isn't that far away from pretty damn good beer. Specifics include dark caramel, cocoa powder, raisins soaked in Absolut, anise seed and plenty of spicy ground clove.

There's a fair amount of bitterness, though no appreciable hop flavor. Warming smooths off some of Grand Cru's rougher edges. So much so that I'm going to bump the taste and drinkability scores. It helps if you like big, bold, aggressive beer.

The mouthfeel is not Belgianesque. Nor did I expect it to be. Slightly more heft and fewer bubbles would have been better. Not much viscosity allows rapid consumption. Watch it though, because this is a sneaky bastard that is beginning to numb the tips of my typing fingers. Time to slow down.

Le Freak is a rock-solid example of an American-brewed Belgian IPA. Grand Cru isn't quite as solid, but it does have a certain amount of Big Beer charm. As long as you don't go in expecting the moon and the stars, this brutish brew delivers just enough enjoyment to justify the purchase price.

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.6/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 picked up in Denver over the weekend.... poured into my Delirium goblet... 2 finger tan head with tons of lace... the brew is deeeep dark brown that only reveals cherry juice highlites when held to my dining room ceiling light... pretty.

Nose is light esters and phenols with a fair amount of spicy alcohol.... a little pepper, but seems soft across the board.

Flavor also seems light for a BSDA... mirrors the nose, but there are touches of apple butter without the heavy sweetness... in fact this finishes fairly dry... pretty heavy on the EtOH... a little banana as it warms up.. and the raisin/dried cherries really only show as it hits damn near room temperature... medium body with fairly high carbonation seems about spot on for the style.

Overall... this is just an "Ehhhh" beer for me.

Photo of roopy40
3.58/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a snifter, no bottled on date or fresh if drank by date on the bottle

A - Very dark brown, with a half inch frothy white head. A hint of amber comes through when held up and room light passes through it

S - Rum soaked raisins, roasted malt, sugar babies?

T - More raisin, hint of warming alcohol (rum), bite of clove

M - Medium in body and the carbonation is right on IMO

D - Very drinkable beer - slowly that is. At 9.1%, it is strong and should be enjoyed at a slow pace.

I really enjoyed the beer and think it represents the style very nicely. I would recommend trying this to anyone who likes BSDA.

Photo of movingtrain
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bomber poured into a Duvel glass.

Pours a dark brownish-black with a finger or so tan head.

Smells of spice, malts, raisins, sugar...very earthy...sweet milk, caramel.

Tastes of molasses, dark candy sugar, roasted malts, dried fruit...banana, clove...honey.

This is a pretty tasty beer...not the best, but very drinkable. The alcohol is very apparent in the smell, but not in the mouthfeel at all. It is sweet, with a slight bitter hint on across the tongue...the yeast used here lends itself to the banana and clove flavors, while there are some true Belgian-ish flavors coming through in the body...brown candy sugar, and that very earthy flavor.

Photo of glid02
4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by jophish17 - much obliged!

Pours a cloudy brown color with a one-finger tan head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of raisins and brown sugar with hints of herbal hops.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Rustic sweet malt flavors serve as a backdrop for dark fruits - mostly raisins - and brown sugar. Midway through the sip hints of slightly herbal hop flavors join in and carry through to a solidly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It has a nice thickness with solid carbonation.

Drinkability is good. I didn't have a problem finishing my glass and could have another.

Overall this is one of my least favorite Green Flash beers I've had to date but it's still a solid effort. Try the DIPA and West Coast IPA first then give this a shot.

Photo of yemenmocha
4.03/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours very dark brown to neear black with tan head that is very generous. Nose is dessert-like with sweet bread aromas, brown bread, brown sugar, and at least one more brown something or other. Palate is malty sweet with a brown sugary, perhaps cocoa-y flavor that has the yeasty bready flavors as well. More candy sugar flavors midway through the finish, and it finishes lightly sweet.

Photo of popery
4.15/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Very good Belgian ale from a great West coast brewery. I aged this bottle for about 9 months in my makeshift cellar. I initially thought of Green Flash as another San Diego brewer of hop bombs. While I dearly love their various hoppy beers, Green Flash brews some big, complex styles that have much less to do with hops and they do it well (and, to be fair, all of the big SD area craft brewers do too once you get past the hop resin-covered surface). This beer pours a deep brown, only translucent at its edges, with very nice lacing. The aroma is rich and deep with good doughy malt character and lots of Belgian yeast. It reminds me a bit of Rochefort's quad without quite the heat or extreme complexity. The flavor doesn't quite live up to the nose. I'm not getting the sweetness that some people seem to report. It's very yeasty with dark stone fruits and a strong caramel malt flavor. The finish lingers pleasantly. The feel is rich and full. Drinkability is good, but how could that not be the case with a good Belgian-style ale.

Photo of juhl31
3.48/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

pretty dark Belgian which in turn really means Belgian with lots of alcohol really.

-pretty damn dark, you can catch some brown when held to a light

-Belgian right up in there. can definitely smell the alcohol as well

-the Belgium is really coming at me in all aspects. this is a Belgian and it is labeled as strong so it wasn't just a clever name. the alcohol taste really sits in at the back end. 9.1 will do that sometimes. for not being a big Belgian fan, it's not bad

-feels nice enough. i think as it should

-couldn't really reach for this all that often based on my distaste for Belgians for the most part. not to mention the fact that it is pretty strong

Photo of EliottJW
3.43/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

this is a solid dark belgian beer... along the lines of a quad. definitely stong enough... or at least tastes so... ooo.

looks solid enough. poured from a bomber into a bruery tulip. The head on this is strong... STRONG at first, but actually dies off pretty quickly. Retention leaves something to bedesired, but it doesn't disappear altogether. leaves a solid lace coming down the side of the glass and sits atop what one might perceive as an imperial stout if it were a bit more viscous.

smells... like a strong belgian beer (can you tell I'm not too well versed in belgians?). sweet, malty... sweet yeasts that just BARELY hint at being bready...

deep, dark malts that don't even think of coming off as toasted or roasted. sweet through and through... until the very end. a strong alcoholic bite shines through for JUST a moment... long enough to put you off a bit. it's deep, dark, sugary... and alcoholic.

feels not as heavy as one would expect from the color... nor the style... but I don't mind it.

drinkable to an extent. to be honest, I'd have a tough time putting down a whole bomber of this... but I'll admit again that I'm not the biggest belgian guy... literally or figuratively.

Photo of theopholis
2.6/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance - Pours a deep, translucent brown with a slight reddish tint. Head is off-white head with decent retention and lacing.

Smell - Semi-complex aroma, but not nearly as complex as a Grand Cru should be. I pick up hints of dark fruits (raisins, cherries, fig) a bit of chocolate along with a hint of maltiness.

Taste - Not impressive. I hate to bag on Green Flash for trying something as impressive as a Grand Cru, but this ain't that great. Tastes like a homebrewers first attempt with extract and old yeast.

Mouthfeel - Medium body, appropriate carbonation.

Drinkability - It really isn't bad, but it ain't no grand cru.

Photo of aubuc1
4.33/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 oz bottle poured in to a goblet.

Pours a dark brown with a tan clingy head.

Smell is fruity, rich bready and slightly sour. Sort of plumy and tangy.

Taste is light tart with rich sweet bread and a sour finish. Great balance between sweet belgian, light sour, and some faint hops.

Full mouthfeel and very drinkable. I wasn't sure what to expect from this brewery(I assumed huge hop), but this is a very nice belgian style beer. I wish this was available locally.

Photo of vrazionale
3.95/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

1 pt. 6 fl. oz bottle at refrigerator temperature poured into a snifter.

A - Deep, opaque brown with a very slight reddish tint and a off-white head with average retention.

S - Raisins, cherries, chocolate, caramelized bananas, vanilla, candied fruits, fresh and dried figs, gingerbread, and a candy smell that reminds me of my childhood but cannot place the exact candy.

T - Lots of dark fruit. The raisins come forward most prominently, and I get hints of prune, as well. There is a very full spice profile here. I also pick up hints of toffee, chocolate, and cinnamon. Nice long finish.

M - There is a good bite to this brew, coming mostly from the dark fruit flavors. This does mask the heat from the alcohol a bit - but after a few consecutive sips you feel the alcohol burn in the back of your throat.

D - Pretty intense nose and flavor profile. This is no session beer, but if you're in the mood for a spicy, fruity interpretation of a Belgian dark ale, then give this a try.

Photo of Sammy
3.78/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very nice grand cru though on the sweet side. Pours dark and rich chocolate looking, with a thin bubbly head surrounding it. Malty aroma. A sipper with rich malt taste, above average mouthfeel. Satisfying and spicey,sugar, cardomon, not as yeasty as predicted.

Photo of Dukeofearl
2.48/5  rDev -34.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

I'm still trying to warm to Green Flash's beer. A few times, I've had their beer and really enjoyed it. But too often, I just don't like it at all.

This one, a 22 ounce bomber, starts off well- a nice looking deep murky brew with a small head that is jsut right for the style. The aroma hits several of the BSDA notes- rich chocolate, hint of sweetness, hint of coffee. The flavor even starts out well- definite rich chocolate and chicory, pleasant mouthfeel, but then it goes south when I swallow. I would charitably call this an espresso bitterness, but no, it's way beyond that- it's harsh, medicinal, reminiscent of picking weeds as a kid and tasting them, only to find out that they taste horrible. Burnt grains, don't make me take that antibiotic pill again, please! I'm sorry, such promise, but there are so many great examples of this style- I just cannot drink this one.

Photo of prototypic
4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Grand Cru pours a dark, nut brown. It's close to opaque, but not quite. A few burgundy highlights are visible around the edges. A foamy tan head sits on top. It's roughly two fingers. Retention was about average, but waves of thick lace line the glass as it descends. Not at all bad.

The nose is pretty complex and is impressive. Dark fruit is prominent is one focal points. Raisin and plum notes kick it off nicely. There's some light berry here, as well. Smells like raspberry and cranberry. They complement the dark fruit very well. Cinnamon and perhaps some other light spices are secondary, but effective. It's sweet and has a nice brown sugar aroma. There's definitely a nice yeast component to it. I like that. As it warms a little, there's a bit of an earthy hop aroma. This is a deep and complex beer. I like it. The only drawback is that alcohol is prominent and leaves it smelling a little boozy. A minor tweak there would probably propel it to the next level.

The flavor profile is no less deep or complex. Raisin and plum flavors are strong throughout and are obviously the focal point. Light raspberry and cranberry blend well and give it a deep fruit flavor. Cinnamon is the most notable spices, though there are trace amounts of clove and pepper. A nice brown sugar flavor gives it a sweet edge. A mix of spicy and floral hops is present and provides a nice bitter flavor. It's subtle, but effective. Belgian yeast is noted, but it's a little buried in the complexity. An acidic flavor emerges toward the end. I assume that's a product of the dark fruit. Certainly tastes that way. Overall, it's incredibly deep and has a lot of great flavor. Alcohol is strong and is a little distracting and warm. That really is the biggest drawback in the package. All in all, it's pretty satisfying and very enjoyable. A little less warmth would go quite a ways.

Grand Cru has a body that's on the lighter side of medium. Carbonation is active and buzzy. It's smooth, but never quite gets to that next level. Drinkability is good, but is a little limited. At 9% abv, it's strong, a little boozy, and warm. I'm guessing a percentage or two less would remedy that problem.

Green Flash did a nice job with Grand Cru and came close to brewing an amazing beer. The flavor is very deep, complex, and impressive. At the end of the day, alcohol just seems to be too prominent and warm. I'm guessing that this would be better at 7% or 7.5%. Nonetheless, it is very good. It's not very competitive with some of the best BSDAs out there, but it's easily competitive with the second tier. Well worth picking up if you run across it.

Photo of Wasatch
4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks goes out to jwc215 for this one.

Poured into a chalice a nice dark brown color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some sticky lacing. The nose is malty, with some yeast, figs, raisins, plums. The taste is sweet, malty, yeasty, nice dark fruit notes. Medium body. Drinkable, this is a pretty tasty brew.

Photo of tpd975
3.75/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to jdub for this one.

A: Pours a nice brownish black hue with a creamy tan head. Spotty lace.

S: Lots of sweet caramel and brown sugar malt. This is back by an equal amount of rich dark fruit.

T: Very malty up front. Sweet toffee and brown sugar. Lots of raisins and dates make up the middle. A touch of floral hops to round things out.

M: Medium to full in body.

D: Okay, tasty but not my favorite style.

Green Flash Grand Cru from Green Flash Brewing Co.
85 out of 100 based on 420 ratings.