Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / BruinBourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin

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89 Ratings
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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.32
pDev: 17.47%
Wants: 2
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: JoeyBeerBelly on 10-14-2010)
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Reviews by Blindpigbiz:
Photo of Blindpigbiz
4.55/5  rDev +37%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

AGED FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR

Smell: toast and blackberry jam with butter and balsamic vinegar

Taste: blackberries with hints if balsamic with a coca cola finish...RIDICULOUS!!!!

The reviews are low from others, probably due to them not aging this beer. Age it! If I had this beer without the age, I'd probably be with the 2.9 score crowd. Once aged, however, you have to PAIR this with French toast and vanilla bean ice cream or baby back ribs and a lot of garlic mashed potatoes and bread sticks

More User Reviews:
Photo of WastingFreetime
2.15/5  rDev -35.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Reviewed from session notes.

A. Very dark brown and opaque in color with a fizzy two finger tan head that lasts for about two minutes with minimal lacing left behind.

S. Most of the nose is composed of a dark fruit base, but in the initial pour, there exists a brief and faint burst of mildly lactic-esque (yogurt) soured brown sugar and donut/morning bun dough. This is a proper nose for the style, but unfortunately far too faint in strength for my tastes.

T. The weak point of this beer. Strangely soapy and heavily metallic sweet malt with the muddled dark fruits getting buried and lost within all the metallic off-flavor. Acidity and tartness levels are far too low. Sourness is nowhere to be found. Just a mouth full of sweetness and tinny metal with a soap film on it.

M. Thin watery body, medium carbonation, at least the carbonation isn't super-charged and distracting like the other Timmermans in this session.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.2/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

330ml bottle - $3.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a very dark amber-brown body with a thin, collapsing, light beige head.

Smell: Gives an impression of store-brand cherry cola, though, as it warms, some more sensible malt notes hit the snout. Still, it remains very sweet-scented.

Taste: The flavor races by tastes of cherry juice, light toast, lighter roast, plum jelly, cola to hit a relatively modest, vinegary tartness that's instantly covered by a full-on toothsome sweetness that lasts until the rather fruit, but also very sweet finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium-plus carbonation.

Overall: Sweet enough to make one shudder in revulsion (I know I did). Like cherry cola dosed with stray Pixy Stix. Oooh, you see? I shuddered again. I'll likely shudder again when I see how much I wasted on this thing.

Photo of liveandletdie
3.05/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I bought this because it was a "brown ale" and english and/or american brown ales I typically like. However this is hardly a brown ale in either of the sense of those two types. It says "belgian" brown ale on the bottle, and it's clasified aas flanders oud bruin....not sure on all these other names- I am from the united states. Just didn't taste good to me, tasted sour and there was little other flavor to it. Very one note on this one, which was a bad note unless you like sour though I think this might be because of the style...however I still believe they should have labeled this something else which is why I am writing a review...if you like browns...you probably wont like this.

Photo of danthehopslamman
3.75/5  rDev +13%

Photo of Mora2000
3/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours a dark brown color with a cream-colored head. The aroma consists of some toffee malt but nothing else. The flavor is toffee malt with some light cherry notes and some brown sugar. I get no sourness or not tartness. Disappointing. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nothing really interesting with this beer and not really worth seeking out unless you just need the tick.

Photo of PretzelsNBeer
2.75/5  rDev -17.2%

Photo of chinchill
4/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

clear brown ale with a generous and lasting white head.

Aroma - yeasty and bit like a lambic; not strong.

Excellent and unique flavor but the most remarkable thing about this beer is the mouthfeel. While the body is not thin, the brew quickly takes on a light airy quality I have only experienced in one other brew (wish I could remember which one). Unlike many reviewers, I actually like that this oud bruin is not sour.

O - ignore the ratings and comments, leave your expectations behind, and give this special beer a try.

P.S. reading up, I see that this is a unique beer produced by mixing a lambic with a "high fermentation brown ale" ("infusion of Lambic") which is then aged for 6 months in oak barrels

Photo of mattfancett
3.05/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of sfprint
3.3/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

from 10/22/2010 notes.

A: Dark Cola. looks like a soda

S: Smells like a special soda as well. Sprint, dark orange syrup. Unique and sweet.

T: Tastes also more like a fruity soda than a beer. Has the qualities of a mixed beer. Sweet dark cherry, yet a bit artificial. A bit kriek like.

M: Soda like with very mild carbonation.

D: Fine, Kriek/sodaish.

Photo of alleykatking
2.58/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Poured from 11.2oz bottle.

A- Pours a reddish brown color. The red really stands out in this when held to the light. One finger tan head that shows good retention. The head rests just over the beer most of the drink. Streaky lacing on the sides of the glass.

S- A little muted I thought for the style. The front end has a soured cherry presence which I was looking for. The vinegar did come through as well but not as big as other Oud Bruin's I have had. Ending of the nose is some wood notes mixed in with the soured cherries once again. Nothing over the top and to be honest even the vinegar smell was on the lower end....interesting.

T- Light soured cherries on the front of this beer follows suit with the muted aroma. There is a sweet malt like flavor that come in right after this with a hint of vinegar that washes away the tartness to this beer. Light oak flavor to the middle of the beer. The ending has more of a sugary sweet overly done cherry flavor to it. Some people have mentioned Cherry Coke and I can see where they get this from. Everything in this beer seems to be muted except for the sweetness which should have been the most muted of any flavor.

M- Light mouthfeel. Carbonation is a little on the high (fizzy) side. Cherries and sugary sweetness was left on the palate. Aftertaste is mostly sugary malts, light cherry flavor, and a hint of metallic flavoring. This beer is more on the sweet side and off balanced with that in mind. Some light metallic off flavors toward the middle that resurface toward the ending. Very light alcohol drying on the palate.

D- This is a interesting take on the style. A little more carbonated than what I am use to. There is a over the top sweetness that destroys any of the sourness that could be in this beer. Overall a lackluster beer in the style. Average at best...well maybe a little under average.

Photo of sammo
3.25/5  rDev -2.1%

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.63/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours brown with ruby tints and a small, quickly fading head.
Nose shows sweet forest fruits, faint funk and a soft, acidic character.
Some of the fruit transfers through as a flavour, hinting at blackberries. Also some sweet malt and a faintly spicy finish.
Body seems a bit watery.

Photo of emerge077
2.15/5  rDev -35.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Produced on: 28/06/10

Attractive silkscreened bottle with classic lettering, fooled me into thinking this might be a somewhat traditional Flanders Ale. Nice glint of ruby in the light, and a tan head that has plenty of staying power, leaving some spotty lacing. There was no sediment in the bottle, I wonder if this is filtered.

Cherry cola and stale malt aroma, nothing remotely wild though it smells a little weird. Cardboard soaked in cherry coke? Vaguely woody with cherry pits, but that's really a stretch. More like a watered down blend of brown ale and cherry cola.

Hollow and stale cherry soda flavor. Nothing in the aftertaste but sugar. Yuck. Some low level malt flavor, residual sugar, and astringency, not tart or approaching sour whatsoever. This is a very weak attempt at a Duchesse knock-off... why bother? Fizzy and then flat with no residual flavor at all, just sugary sweetness.

This is garbage, and I don't say that easily. It's an insult to traditional Flanders Ale, and represents the sugary, watered down "wine cooler-ification" of traditionally sour Belgian styles. Out of 40 Oud Bruin reviews, this was the worst.

Photo of bluejacket74
2.85/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

11.2 ounce bottle, bottled on 05/10/10. Served in a snifter, the beer pours dark brown with some hints of ruby red, and has about a half inch off-white head. Head retention is good, and there's a decent amount of lacing left on the glass. Aroma is cherries (both sweet and tart), oak, and some vinegar. The taste is kinda like the aroma, but the taste is more sweet than tart (and not a good sweet taste), and there's also a weird off-flavor that I can't tell exactly what it is. It's not awful, but it's not exactly good, either. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's watery and has decent carbonation. Drinkability is average. Didn't really care for this brew, it's just not for me I guess.

Photo of TexIndy
3.43/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 33cl bottle into a snifter. Date on neck of 6/28/10 which I'm guessing is the bottled date since this just came onto the market. Was a dark reddish brown color with lots of carb streams. It had a good sized head that settled into a thick collar and foam cap. Good sheeting with plenty sticking.

The aroma was oak, vinegar, dark fruit and cherries. Not bad but had a watery aspect to it. The taste was inline with the aroma but led but the vinegar then the oak and fruit. Reminiscent of a Goudenband but watered down. Mouthfeel was light and watery with crisp carbonation. Vinegary sour after taste.

Overall, an average Oud Bruin. It was hurt by the watery aspects in it. Avail here in TX. Not many Oud Bruins available here so would get the rare bottle if all I can find. [R;O]

Photo of musicforairports
2.88/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Ruby-brown, head sticks around a bit and leaves lacing, especially for the style.

Light aroma, some cherries, and some brown-ale-type malt.

Taste is pretty much cherry cola. Finishes with a hint of tartness, but I don't pick up any buggy, wild qualities here besides a faint, off band-aid quality I kind of caught in the nose. Pretty sweet. The flavor is refreshing and fine on its own, but for the style it's probably the worst I've had.

Light mouthfeel, not as carbonated as some.

A poor example of a Flanders, but if you're looking for a good cherry beer, this is fine. Not a problem to drink, but I'd like some complexity and at least some sort of tart/sour bite.

Photo of ddedhed
3.5/5  rDev +5.4%

Photo of RuudJH
3.6/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Tasting some brews from this brewery, this is a far better beer than their blonde, as a beer in general. It's got more taste and the mouthfeel is pretty ok.
Dark brown colour, decent head, good lacing.
Smells of dark fruits, roasted seeds. Actually very pleasant.
Taste similar. Some tartness from berries and cherries, and roasted malts sweetness.

Photo of Squelch
3.03/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark brown colored. Moderate lacing.

Smell: smells of a lambic. Funk with some malty sweetness

Taste: My wife described this as a cross between a stout and a lambic. I wouldn't go so far. It's definitely a flanders, but lacks the uumph of other's Ive recently tried. It tastes watered down.

Mouthfeel: Watered down. Slight sourness

Overall: Not really one I'd seek out again.

Photo of Proteus93
3.3/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: A clean, ruby red topped with an off-white head. Not a whole lot of lacing, but the retention is nice and it does hang on to a good sheet over the beer.

S + T: When I first spotted the score on here, my heart sank a little as I find that, typically, my peers on here are pretty reasonable judges of brews. The aroma seems to be alright... I don't pick up on the tartness as much as I do in some others. Rather, there is a more notable malt warmth that is pleasant. Flavour is a little unusual... starts rather nice; it's light and moderately tart. It's the finish that I find a strange, though... there's something that almost seems a little like dish soap. It's mild, but it's there. This could very well be due to a glass with residue on it, but it does seem to be an element of the beer, honestly.

M + D: I didn't find this to be all that bad, but I would probably be more likely to reach for Monk's Cafe, Duchesse, Rodenbach, etc... if I were looking for the style. I would be very open to trying another in regards to the flavour profile, though, as it seems very unusual.

Photo of DeerNick
4/5  rDev +20.5%

Photo of metter98
3.63/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear dark reddish brown in color and poured with a finger high dense off white head that quickly died down but never completely faded away. A very light amount of carbonation is visible from the rising bubbles.
S: There are light to moderate aromas of sour dark fruits and sweetness in the nose along with some hints of oak from the barrel aging.
T: There is an interesting balance between sweet and sour flavors; the initial taste has a mild amount of sweetness, which transitions to a mild amount of sourness in the finish. Flavors of brown sugar, cherries and vinegar stand out in particular. The sweetness is slightly stronger than the sourness.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and quite thin and watery on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
D: The beer is rather easy to drink and goes down smoothly. I would consider it to be sessionable if it had a little more sourness to balance out the sweet flavors.

Photo of SHODriver
3.1/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

cork says 2010

A: pours a deep brown with a slight reddish tinge with a huge light tan head and decent retention
S: smells kinda musty and dusty, a bit of funk, slight sour cherry and a bit of oak
T: kinda oaky up front before the sour cherry hits, a little bit cloyingly sweet. aftertaste is a hard candy like sweetness.
M: slightly prickly carbonation and a bit on the thin side but not quite watery.
O: not bad but there's better out there, pretty low on the sourness but not bad for somebody that doesn't want to jump in all the way quite yet.

Photo of ThaCreep
2.33/5  rDev -29.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

We feel the Oud bruin nose, that is to say, tannins and fruit with a touch more style caramelized cinnamon biscuit. The problem is that the mouth is too yeasted and that input is far too timid and unobtrusive compared to its big sisters like Goudenband, especially acidity here is far from sharp, almost to the limit the non-existent. Looks like a mix between a beast and a brown Belgian oud bruin low quality. The taste of tannin is also rejected by the addition of a dye unpleasant. In the end, even the finish is below with a taste between toasted malt and the dye. What a shame.

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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
77 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.