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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / BruinBourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin

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79 Ratings
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Ratings: 79
Reviews: 53
rAvg: 3.27
pDev: 17.43%


Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: JoeyBeerBelly on 10-14-2010)
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Koninck

Poland

3.63/5  rDev +11%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Yellow coloured and hazy. Has a white head, medium duration. Crisp, malty aroma, yeasty too. And some spice. Coriander and faint citrus, orange. Flavor starts sweet and has a nice hoppy note, faint metallic, finish moderate bitter. Creamy texture and soft carbonation.

Serving type: bottle

07-22-2013 15:39:02 | More by Koninck
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bmwats

Louisiana

3.34/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Poured from a 33 cl bottle into a teku.

A: Medium dark brown. Pours a 1 finger, foamy, brownish head. Settles quickly leaving a foam ring and a smattering of bubbles. Beer ring lacing.

S: Roasted grains, maple syrup, and tea leaves. Some plum and raisin in there, too.

T: Light malt and plenty of plum, smoothed with maple syrup.

M: Thick and syrupy feel. Sweetness throughout. Lightly bitter finish.

D: Sip and enjoy.

Atmosphere is pretty solid. Decent head, fair lacing. Nose has some slightly roasted grain, but mostly overpowered by some candied sweetness and fruit. Mostly fruits and syrup in the flavor. Overall, this is a pretty good quaff.

Serving type: bottle

06-09-2013 05:35:03 | More by bmwats
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Blindpigbiz

California

4.55/5  rDev +39.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

AGED FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR

Smell: toast and blackberry jam with butter and balsamic vinegar

Taste: blackberries with hints if balsamic with a coca cola finish...RIDICULOUS!!!!

The reviews are low from others, probably due to them not aging this beer. Age it! If I had this beer without the age, I'd probably be with the 2.9 score crowd. Once aged, however, you have to PAIR this with French toast and vanilla bean ice cream or baby back ribs and a lot of garlic mashed potatoes and bread sticks

Serving type: bottle

05-25-2013 10:33:29 | More by Blindpigbiz
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OtherShoe2

Massachusetts

3.41/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Pours deep reddish brown with an off-white head. No lace.

Tart cherry and caramel and some toasted malt in the nose. Oddly mild.

Mild tart cherry mingled with some caramel and toasted malt. Finishes mildly tart, mildly bitter with a butter note as the palate clears.

Decent medium body with good carbonation.

Out of balance and not enough bitter, tart, or transitional complexity. Just ok.

Serving type: bottle

05-19-2013 21:59:02 | More by OtherShoe2
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ChainGangGuy

Georgia

2.2/5  rDev -32.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

330ml bottle - $3.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a very dark amber-brown body with a thin, collapsing, light beige head.

Smell: Gives an impression of store-brand cherry cola, though, as it warms, some more sensible malt notes hit the snout. Still, it remains very sweet-scented.

Taste: The flavor races by tastes of cherry juice, light toast, lighter roast, plum jelly, cola to hit a relatively modest, vinegary tartness that's instantly covered by a full-on toothsome sweetness that lasts until the rather fruit, but also very sweet finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium-plus carbonation.

Overall: Sweet enough to make one shudder in revulsion (I know I did). Like cherry cola dosed with stray Pixy Stix. Oooh, you see? I shuddered again. I'll likely shudder again when I see how much I wasted on this thing.

Serving type: bottle

11-24-2012 00:55:17 | More by ChainGangGuy
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Jparker37

Wisconsin

3.35/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into an oversized tulip. 10/26/10

A - Medium sized caramel head with small bubbles. Holds a small cap of foam. The beer itself is dark brown with brilliant ruby hues when held to light. The clarity seems to be nice and clear. Left a little bit of lacing throughout.

S - The smell deviates from big fruity raspberry tartness. I get a smooth bit of chocolate malt. Has a little bit of sourness deep within. Some red fruit tartness shows up with increased temperature but is not pouring out.

T - The taste starts with a delicate bit of chocolate and rich caramel malt, absolutely present yet so craftily delicate. It has a brilliant layer of sourness but again very nuance and never sharp-like. I get that tanginess on the sides of my tongue.

M - The body is light to moderate. Carbonation seems to be low to moderate. Semi-sweet.

O - Very nice appearance, the ruby color is mouthwatering. Smell has good complexity, no brett smells, no big fruitiness. In the taste it has a helping of malt that is rare to find, sourness is pleasant to hide but lacking a flavor complexity. Carbonation seemed a little on the low side for the style.

Serving type: bottle

09-12-2012 01:34:32 | More by Jparker37
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elNopalero

Texas

4.53/5  rDev +38.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured this for a special occasion. Well, pouring this made it a special occasion.

Enjoyed it August, 2012 but the cork was stamped with 2.010—I’m guessing this has at least 2 years on it, maybe longer?

This pours a ruddy brown-amber color, similar to muddy water, thin coffee, or a burnt copper. Billowy foam topping surprised me with its retention—even after 30 minutes there was still some crema left.

I’m not sure how best to describe the aroma. It’s woody, with elements akin to orange marmalade coming across, but that doesn’t do it justice. Add in some hints of butterscotch candy, toffee, and put it on the sweeter side of life.

The flavor is …wonderful. I was expecting something tart, sour, but this is smooth and sweet with a velvety mouthfeel. There’s a light bitter-tartness that washes out while lingering. I taste orange marmalade, toffee, caramel, and a hint of butterscotch.

I’m glad to have shared this one.

Serving type: bottle

08-30-2012 19:51:33 | More by elNopalero
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SHODriver

California

3.1/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

cork says 2010

A: pours a deep brown with a slight reddish tinge with a huge light tan head and decent retention
S: smells kinda musty and dusty, a bit of funk, slight sour cherry and a bit of oak
T: kinda oaky up front before the sour cherry hits, a little bit cloyingly sweet. aftertaste is a hard candy like sweetness.
M: slightly prickly carbonation and a bit on the thin side but not quite watery.
O: not bad but there's better out there, pretty low on the sourness but not bad for somebody that doesn't want to jump in all the way quite yet.

Serving type: bottle

07-21-2012 04:30:59 | More by SHODriver
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benfons

Belgium

2.15/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

According to the website this is a mix of lambic and a brown ale aged in oak barrels

A: dark cola colour, nice dense beige head

S: loads of sugar, some cherry, some malts, nothing more

T: Taste like a cocktail of cola and sweet cherry beer. There is a moment you think you'll have some acidity but the sugars rush immediately. At the end there is a hint of some thing burnt and some oak, that's it.

M: medium creamy, not a lot of carbonation, a bit sticky

O: too sweet, no subtlety

Serving type: bottle

05-20-2012 20:40:32 | More by benfons
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StonedTrippin

Colorado

3.73/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours clear mahogany to transparent brown, fizzling white head, soda-like bubbles. smells like grainy belgian malt, medium roast, with dried cherries, raisins, and toffee. flavor is less fruity than the nose, more malty than anything, with a definite alcohol flavor, which is odd in a beer with such a low abv. its earthy and a little sweet. muthfeel has a sort of winey vibe to it, not acidic at all, but the same sort of groove and texture, add carbonation. overall not my favorite beer, certainly not my favorite belgian, but a servicable belgian brown. was expecting a bit more sour to it, but really there is very little of that happening here.

Serving type: bottle

05-19-2012 21:04:51 | More by StonedTrippin
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lacqueredmouse

Australia

3.35/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a deep brown hue, slightly hazed and relatively opaque, with flashed of ruby at the deep parts when held to the light. Head is fine but insubstantial, forming a slick film across the top of the glass, and leaving some patchy, slightly scummy lacing. Body is fine but slick, and the carbonation is tiny and intricate. Looks good.

Nose is slightly tart and dark, with some pleasantly sweet roasted characters bouncing of the acidity—it gives it the sumptuous feel of chocolate dipped cherries. Hints of oak come through as well, although these are veiled by the light tartness. Slight peppery characters come through as well. Overall, it's a really nice and clear Oud Bruin.

Taste is certainly flatter, and to be honest, a little disappointing after the tantalising hints on the nose. Acidity is really pared back, leaving just a twinkle of funk through the centre of the palate, and a subtle twist to the sweeter, fruitier notes. Feel is very light, and there's almost no residual on the back, meaning that the sweetness tends to be the last thing you remember. It's not a great finish.

Feel is quite thin—it would really be aided by a touch of acidity on the finish to crispen and revitalise the palate.

Overall, I'm a little disappointed. I was ready for a really good Oud Bruin after the nose, and it pretty much fell flat on its face.

Serving type: bottle

05-01-2012 08:09:32 | More by lacqueredmouse
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WastingFreetime

Wisconsin

2.15/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Reviewed from session notes.

A. Very dark brown and opaque in color with a fizzy two finger tan head that lasts for about two minutes with minimal lacing left behind.

S. Most of the nose is composed of a dark fruit base, but in the initial pour, there exists a brief and faint burst of mildly lactic-esque (yogurt) soured brown sugar and donut/morning bun dough. This is a proper nose for the style, but unfortunately far too faint in strength for my tastes.

T. The weak point of this beer. Strangely soapy and heavily metallic sweet malt with the muddled dark fruits getting buried and lost within all the metallic off-flavor. Acidity and tartness levels are far too low. Sourness is nowhere to be found. Just a mouth full of sweetness and tinny metal with a soap film on it.

M. Thin watery body, medium carbonation, at least the carbonation isn't super-charged and distracting like the other Timmermans in this session.

Serving type: bottle

02-27-2012 20:29:23 | More by WastingFreetime
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CrazyDavros

Australia

3.63/5  rDev +11%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours brown with ruby tints and a small, quickly fading head.
Nose shows sweet forest fruits, faint funk and a soft, acidic character.
Some of the fruit transfers through as a flavour, hinting at blackberries. Also some sweet malt and a faintly spicy finish.
Body seems a bit watery.

Serving type: bottle

02-05-2012 23:48:12 | More by CrazyDavros
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StJamesGate

New York

3.53/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark oxblood with a creamy tan head that rims and sheets. Winey nose with wood chips and cocoa nibs.
Dark malt loaf, light vinegary notes, some red berry and a light apple end.
Light, fizzy, crisp, slight cling.

OK, I get where this is pretty insubstantial: no oak, little sour, not much depth. At the same time, it is pleasant with a light tang and some warm malts. At 5%, it's never going to be Goudenband.

A session brune, if that's what you're after.

Serving type: bottle

01-14-2012 19:19:18 | More by StJamesGate
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claytong

Vermont

3.4/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

appearance - beautiful. looks almost black without light. put up to the sun you can see the darkest of ruby reds. one inch head with solid lacing that looks like spain right now.

smell - metal, musty malts, cherry coke

taste - cherry coke (enjoyable since i dont have soft drinks ever), sugar, slight malt and slight metal to finish it off

mouthfeel - crisp, carbonated well, good body for style and abv

overall - is this the bmc of flanders oud bruin? not sure, but enjoying the cherry coke. would pick this up again if it was a buck a piece. great intro for people not into beers, especially if they like sodas.

Serving type: bottle

10-18-2011 22:53:01 | More by claytong
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RuudJH

Netherlands

3.6/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Tasting some brews from this brewery, this is a far better beer than their blonde, as a beer in general. It's got more taste and the mouthfeel is pretty ok.
Dark brown colour, decent head, good lacing.
Smells of dark fruits, roasted seeds. Actually very pleasant.
Taste similar. Some tartness from berries and cherries, and roasted malts sweetness.

Serving type: bottle

10-01-2011 12:15:31 | More by RuudJH
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Stinkypuss

Pennsylvania

3.88/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bourgogne Des Flandres

Pours a rich brown color, nice sized head and some lace sticking. Aroma of sour cherries and vinegar. In the taste, malty, slightly sweet, with a veritable underground of sourness. Brown sugar like sweetness, mildly tart, and somewhat malty. Mouthfeel is smooth and velvety. Overall, a nice flanders brown ale and a solid session change of pace brew.

Serving type: bottle

09-22-2011 05:13:48 | More by Stinkypuss
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meatyard

Pennsylvania

3.53/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, deep ruby with a frothy, 2-finger, light tan head that falls quickly to a cover.

The smell is mild vinegar, musty and very light cherry aromas.

The taste is a mild tartness, cherry and more of the mustiness. The vinegar is gone but it is still a bit bland.

Mouthfeel is medium to light with moderate to low carbonation.

Overall: This is not a bad beer but not what I would hope for in this style. There are enough other, better and available beers in this style that are more satisfying. I wouldn't buy it again.

Serving type: bottle

09-11-2011 19:19:27 | More by meatyard
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janubio

Spain

3.78/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle, no cork, just an usual cap. Dark brwon colour, with beatiful reddish hints to the light. Good beige creamy head with lace. Aroma is very acidic, with fruits (cherry specially), wood, caramel and brettanomyces. It feels good on the tongue, although a bit light. Taste is acidic, fruity, sherry wine and brattanomyces are there.

Serving type: bottle

09-11-2011 18:43:44 | More by janubio
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PorterLambic

Florida

2.78/5  rDev -15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a beautiful garnet red color with a light-medium tan head. Big to start the head drops to a creamy 1/3" and just stays forever. Great lace left behind.
Smell is malty with that wonderful, musty sourness, cherry and a hint of cardboard.
Taste is malty, cherry sweetness almost syrupy, some very slight sourness but not nearly enough, a light spice note appears just at the end of the swallow.
Rich, full-bodied, light effervescence, Smooth with a pretty decent coating of the palate and tongue though not enough to be a detraction. Flavor fades evenly.
If this beer had more of the expected sourness I would have given much higher marks on taste and overall. I really like the style, this one just falls short.

Serving type: bottle

09-11-2011 01:45:25 | More by PorterLambic
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KickInTheChalice

Illinois

2.85/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 mL caged and cork bottle into a snifter.

Appearance: This pours a murky cherry brown color with a white head. Eventually fading to a ring, the cap leaves a bit of lace.

Smell: This actually smells like pizza, which is odd. Behind that, there is brown malt sweetness and some tart cherries.

Taste: The flavor is sweet. Brown malt with some brown sugar starts the flavor. Some tart cherries next. Vaguely woody, and it almost turns into cherry coke by the end. Fairly weak, strangely sweet, and not very sour or good.

Mouthfeel: This is light and a little bit tart with soft carbonation and a light to medium body.

Overall: This is kind of a weird beer.

Serving type: bottle

09-09-2011 04:55:46 | More by KickInTheChalice
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Squelch

United Kingdom (England)

3.03/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark brown colored. Moderate lacing.

Smell: smells of a lambic. Funk with some malty sweetness

Taste: My wife described this as a cross between a stout and a lambic. I wouldn't go so far. It's definitely a flanders, but lacks the uumph of other's Ive recently tried. It tastes watered down.

Mouthfeel: Watered down. Slight sourness

Overall: Not really one I'd seek out again.

Serving type: bottle

08-20-2011 21:00:36 | More by Squelch
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musicforairports

New York

2.88/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Ruby-brown, head sticks around a bit and leaves lacing, especially for the style.

Light aroma, some cherries, and some brown-ale-type malt.

Taste is pretty much cherry cola. Finishes with a hint of tartness, but I don't pick up any buggy, wild qualities here besides a faint, off band-aid quality I kind of caught in the nose. Pretty sweet. The flavor is refreshing and fine on its own, but for the style it's probably the worst I've had.

Light mouthfeel, not as carbonated as some.

A poor example of a Flanders, but if you're looking for a good cherry beer, this is fine. Not a problem to drink, but I'd like some complexity and at least some sort of tart/sour bite.

Serving type: bottle

08-04-2011 02:58:18 | More by musicforairports
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JMad

Texas

3.58/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I drank this from a tulip...

The beer was cola colored with a bubbly tan head. It smells like sour cherry cola with just a hint of sweet malt and oak. The taste is a little more complex with sweet cola, black cherry, molasses and a tart finish. The beer is lighter than it looks with lots of carbonation and a dry finish. I thought this was a good and interesting beer, proof that you can't trust all overall ratings on here.

Serving type: bottle

08-04-2011 00:41:25 | More by JMad
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TheNapkin

Texas

3.38/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Not bad for the style, but certainly not anything to write home about. While the malts are nicely balanced with the tartness (lots of prune and grape right up front with sour cherry and sweet malty backbone) the flavor overall is a little thin. That's really the only major complaint--the sweetness and maltiness seem so balanced because there's really no dominant flavor in the beer. Similar to a slightly watery Petrus Oud Bruin, but with dissipated complexity. Nevertheless, it's always nice to be drinking a barrel-aged Belgian.

Serving type: bottle

07-24-2011 00:22:02 | More by TheNapkin
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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
76 out of 100 based on 79 ratings.