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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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Reviews: 54
Hads: 97
rAvg: 3.18
pDev: 17.92%
Wants: 2
Gots: 5 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Photo of crossovert
1.77/5  rDev -44.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

11.2 oz bottle, bottled on 28/06/10.

It pours a dark brown with a thick, foamy, and big white head that sticks for a while, forming rocky white peaks. It gives some decent lacing as it slowly goes down.

It doesn't smell like a sour really, just a regular fruit estery Belgian amber.

The flavor is sweet, no sign of funk, rather pedestrian. This is a beginners bruin, as a seasoned drinker, I don't even recognize this as an Oud Bruin, more like a Belgian amber ala Biere du Boucaneer. (487 characters)

Photo of gueuzer
1.96/5  rDev -38.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a 11.2 oz bottle

App- Fizzy brown. similar to a cola.

Sm- Caramel sweetness. slight vinous notes, but not much of anything overall.

Ta- Cherry coke? straining to find some kind of tartness in there but it very subtle. overwhelming caramel flavors mixing in with the burnt wood that is present instead of oak. Slight cherries/ prune flavors, but minimal.

MF- Sugary sweet thickness. Carbonation is a bit cidery. not enjoyable.

DR- Split a bottle three ways and did not want any more.

Overall: Tasted like if they made a flanders version of coke. And I mean that in worst possible way. (601 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.21/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

330ml bottle - $3.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a very dark amber-brown body with a thin, collapsing, light beige head.

Smell: Gives an impression of store-brand cherry cola, though, as it warms, some more sensible malt notes hit the snout. Still, it remains very sweet-scented.

Taste: The flavor races by tastes of cherry juice, light toast, lighter roast, plum jelly, cola to hit a relatively modest, vinegary tartness that's instantly covered by a full-on toothsome sweetness that lasts until the rather fruit, but also very sweet finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium-plus carbonation.

Overall: Sweet enough to make one shudder in revulsion (I know I did). Like cherry cola dosed with stray Pixy Stix. Oooh, you see? I shuddered again. I'll likely shudder again when I see how much I wasted on this thing. (851 characters)

Photo of emerge077
2.23/5  rDev -29.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Produced on: 28/06/10

Attractive silkscreened bottle with classic lettering, fooled me into thinking this might be a somewhat traditional Flanders Ale. Nice glint of ruby in the light, and a tan head that has plenty of staying power, leaving some spotty lacing. There was no sediment in the bottle, I wonder if this is filtered.

Cherry cola and stale malt aroma, nothing remotely wild though it smells a little weird. Cardboard soaked in cherry coke? Vaguely woody with cherry pits, but that's really a stretch. More like a watered down blend of brown ale and cherry cola.

Hollow and stale cherry soda flavor. Nothing in the aftertaste but sugar. Yuck. Some low level malt flavor, residual sugar, and astringency, not tart or approaching sour whatsoever. This is a very weak attempt at a Duchesse knock-off... why bother? Fizzy and then flat with no residual flavor at all, just sugary sweetness.

This is garbage, and I don't say that easily. It's an insult to traditional Flanders Ale, and represents the sugary, watered down "wine cooler-ification" of traditionally sour Belgian styles. Out of 40 Oud Bruin reviews, this was the worst. (1,143 characters)

Photo of benfons
2.23/5  rDev -29.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

According to the website this is a mix of lambic and a brown ale aged in oak barrels

A: dark cola colour, nice dense beige head

S: loads of sugar, some cherry, some malts, nothing more

T: Taste like a cocktail of cola and sweet cherry beer. There is a moment you think you'll have some acidity but the sugars rush immediately. At the end there is a hint of some thing burnt and some oak, that's it.

M: medium creamy, not a lot of carbonation, a bit sticky

O: too sweet, no subtlety (486 characters)

Photo of WastingFreetime
2.27/5  rDev -28.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Reviewed from session notes.

A. Very dark brown and opaque in color with a fizzy two finger tan head that lasts for about two minutes with minimal lacing left behind.

S. Most of the nose is composed of a dark fruit base, but in the initial pour, there exists a brief and faint burst of mildly lactic-esque (yogurt) soured brown sugar and donut/morning bun dough. This is a proper nose for the style, but unfortunately far too faint in strength for my tastes.

T. The weak point of this beer. Strangely soapy and heavily metallic sweet malt with the muddled dark fruits getting buried and lost within all the metallic off-flavor. Acidity and tartness levels are far too low. Sourness is nowhere to be found. Just a mouth full of sweetness and tinny metal with a soap film on it.

M. Thin watery body, medium carbonation, at least the carbonation isn't super-charged and distracting like the other Timmermans in this session. (925 characters)

Photo of ThaCreep
2.43/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

We feel the Oud bruin nose, that is to say, tannins and fruit with a touch more style caramelized cinnamon biscuit. The problem is that the mouth is too yeasted and that input is far too timid and unobtrusive compared to its big sisters like Goudenband, especially acidity here is far from sharp, almost to the limit the non-existent. Looks like a mix between a beast and a brown Belgian oud bruin low quality. The taste of tannin is also rejected by the addition of a dye unpleasant. In the end, even the finish is below with a taste between toasted malt and the dye. What a shame. (582 characters)

Photo of Suds
2.46/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

The appearance of this beer is a deep brown color with a very slight white head. The smell is of a candied sour cherry...it's not exactly a beer smell. The taste is similar...the sourness is there, but a little muted, and the sweetness seems to take a lot more from sugar than from malt. Thin and a little watery in body, with a decent bitterness and sour pucker at the finish. All in all, this is a real dismantlement for the style. (433 characters)

Photo of jwinship83
2.55/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

750ml corked and caged bottle picked up at the wheaton whole foods for $10. 2010 is written on the cork. drank from my duvel tulip.

A- this one pours out a translucent very dark brown colored body with ruby red highlights. there is a khaki colored head on top that while small, lasts for a very long time. complete rings of lacing are left behind. were off to a great start.

S- compared to the appearance, the nose is a let down. vague cherries. little to no wildness. a little bit of oak...thats about it.

T- the taste is just as boring. odd cherry coke like sweetness coupled with artificial cherry flavor. very little sourness. very little funk.

M- light bodied. highly carbonated.

O- i regret spending $10 on this. never again. the real bruin brewers in belgium would roll their eyes at this. typical brown ale (thats that the back says)? my ass. (859 characters)

Photo of jrallen34
2.58/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2

11.2 oz bottle, drank from my Darkness glass...Pours like a darkened coca cola with a decent light tan head...A rather muted aroma of oak, with a little apples and just the hint of sour vinegar...The taste is really boring, its like an infant oud bruin that either hasn't aged enough or is just a gateway beer for those first trying. Mostly I get light oak, burnt wood, and a hint of cherries.

A boring oud bruin that should not be drank if your expecting a typical sour. (473 characters)

Photo of alleykatking
2.61/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Poured from 11.2oz bottle.

A- Pours a reddish brown color. The red really stands out in this when held to the light. One finger tan head that shows good retention. The head rests just over the beer most of the drink. Streaky lacing on the sides of the glass.

S- A little muted I thought for the style. The front end has a soured cherry presence which I was looking for. The vinegar did come through as well but not as big as other Oud Bruin's I have had. Ending of the nose is some wood notes mixed in with the soured cherries once again. Nothing over the top and to be honest even the vinegar smell was on the lower end....interesting.

T- Light soured cherries on the front of this beer follows suit with the muted aroma. There is a sweet malt like flavor that come in right after this with a hint of vinegar that washes away the tartness to this beer. Light oak flavor to the middle of the beer. The ending has more of a sugary sweet overly done cherry flavor to it. Some people have mentioned Cherry Coke and I can see where they get this from. Everything in this beer seems to be muted except for the sweetness which should have been the most muted of any flavor.

M- Light mouthfeel. Carbonation is a little on the high (fizzy) side. Cherries and sugary sweetness was left on the palate. Aftertaste is mostly sugary malts, light cherry flavor, and a hint of metallic flavoring. This beer is more on the sweet side and off balanced with that in mind. Some light metallic off flavors toward the middle that resurface toward the ending. Very light alcohol drying on the palate.

D- This is a interesting take on the style. A little more carbonated than what I am use to. There is a over the top sweetness that destroys any of the sourness that could be in this beer. Overall a lackluster beer in the style. Average at best...well maybe a little under average. (1,866 characters)

Photo of PorterLambic
2.88/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a beautiful garnet red color with a light-medium tan head. Big to start the head drops to a creamy 1/3" and just stays forever. Great lace left behind.
Smell is malty with that wonderful, musty sourness, cherry and a hint of cardboard.
Taste is malty, cherry sweetness almost syrupy, some very slight sourness but not nearly enough, a light spice note appears just at the end of the swallow.
Rich, full-bodied, light effervescence, Smooth with a pretty decent coating of the palate and tongue though not enough to be a detraction. Flavor fades evenly.
If this beer had more of the expected sourness I would have given much higher marks on taste and overall. I really like the style, this one just falls short. (716 characters)

Photo of KickInTheChalice
2.88/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 mL caged and cork bottle into a snifter.

Appearance: This pours a murky cherry brown color with a white head. Eventually fading to a ring, the cap leaves a bit of lace.

Smell: This actually smells like pizza, which is odd. Behind that, there is brown malt sweetness and some tart cherries.

Taste: The flavor is sweet. Brown malt with some brown sugar starts the flavor. Some tart cherries next. Vaguely woody, and it almost turns into cherry coke by the end. Fairly weak, strangely sweet, and not very sour or good.

Mouthfeel: This is light and a little bit tart with soft carbonation and a light to medium body.

Overall: This is kind of a weird beer. (675 characters)

Photo of bluejacket74
2.9/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

11.2 ounce bottle, bottled on 05/10/10. Served in a snifter, the beer pours dark brown with some hints of ruby red, and has about a half inch off-white head. Head retention is good, and there's a decent amount of lacing left on the glass. Aroma is cherries (both sweet and tart), oak, and some vinegar. The taste is kinda like the aroma, but the taste is more sweet than tart (and not a good sweet taste), and there's also a weird off-flavor that I can't tell exactly what it is. It's not awful, but it's not exactly good, either. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's watery and has decent carbonation. Drinkability is average. Didn't really care for this brew, it's just not for me I guess. (691 characters)

Photo of musicforairports
2.91/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Ruby-brown, head sticks around a bit and leaves lacing, especially for the style.

Light aroma, some cherries, and some brown-ale-type malt.

Taste is pretty much cherry cola. Finishes with a hint of tartness, but I don't pick up any buggy, wild qualities here besides a faint, off band-aid quality I kind of caught in the nose. Pretty sweet. The flavor is refreshing and fine on its own, but for the style it's probably the worst I've had.

Light mouthfeel, not as carbonated as some.

A poor example of a Flanders, but if you're looking for a good cherry beer, this is fine. Not a problem to drink, but I'd like some complexity and at least some sort of tart/sour bite. (671 characters)

Photo of OakedCanuck
2.98/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

12oz poured into cervoise

This beer pours a nice deep reddish to cedar colour. Off white head with decent lacing. The smell is of cherries and some bready malt, noticeable Belgian yeast. The taste starts off sour cherries to me and finishes with a sweet candied sugar malt. I pick up a metallic like taste about mid palate, not sure what that's about. Mouthfeel is fairly thin and semi dry. This would be a good introductory sour. (431 characters)

Photo of Mora2000
3/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours a dark brown color with a cream-colored head. The aroma consists of some toffee malt but nothing else. The flavor is toffee malt with some light cherry notes and some brown sugar. I get no sourness or not tartness. Disappointing. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nothing really interesting with this beer and not really worth seeking out unless you just need the tick. (391 characters)

Photo of rtepiak
3/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

ran into a lot of this type of oud bruin in poland. A darker ester enhanced by heavy handed sugaring that has an alternative fruity flavor. This poured amber cherry clear. Makes me think this was a brown with a ton of sugar brought to a heavy boil. The only flavor this beer has is in the unfermentables, the rest is candy. A dark fruit synthetic amalgamation. A hint of tang. Predominately blackberry, some malt...but guilded in sugar. (436 characters)

Photo of Spider889
3.03/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottled on 8/10/10, reviewed on 4/13/11 at Winking Lizard.

Odd...

Tall head, dark cola brown color, decent clarity with nice smears of lace.

Smelled of dry Belgian yeast at first, then grew extremely sweet. Not bad for a Flanders I suppose.

Tastes "red." I can't describe it much better than that. Just, "red." It was an odd assortment of off-brand cola, grape soda, and cherry syrup. Maybe a hint of tobacco, not much oak at all. As I got further I was getting lots of grapes and wine, like a sweet muscat or something.

Overall this beer was unpleasantly sweet. I repeat: odd... (584 characters)

Photo of Fnord
3.05/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Dark reddish-brown with a thin tan head.

Smell - Maple, sour cherry and apple, and brown sugar.

Taste - Very sweet beginning and middle, finishes crisp and tart. A hint of bitterness. Not much aftertaste to speak of.

Mouthfeel - Thin body and medium-high carbonation.

Notes - When I first saw this beer, I was hoping I finally found a replacement for Goudenband. It's no Goudenband, though. Though reasonably tasty, it isn't very complex, and in my opinion isn't sour enough. It may be useful for someone who's trying to ease into sours, but I can't recommend it otherwise. (591 characters)

Photo of liveandletdie
3.06/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I bought this because it was a "brown ale" and english and/or american brown ales I typically like. However this is hardly a brown ale in either of the sense of those two types. It says "belgian" brown ale on the bottle, and it's clasified aas flanders oud bruin....not sure on all these other names- I am from the united states. Just didn't taste good to me, tasted sour and there was little other flavor to it. Very one note on this one, which was a bad note unless you like sour though I think this might be because of the style...however I still believe they should have labeled this something else which is why I am writing a review...if you like browns...you probably wont like this. (689 characters)

Photo of Squelch
3.1/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark brown colored. Moderate lacing.

Smell: smells of a lambic. Funk with some malty sweetness

Taste: My wife described this as a cross between a stout and a lambic. I wouldn't go so far. It's definitely a flanders, but lacks the uumph of other's Ive recently tried. It tastes watered down.

Mouthfeel: Watered down. Slight sourness

Overall: Not really one I'd seek out again. (392 characters)

Photo of SHODriver
3.11/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

cork says 2010

A: pours a deep brown with a slight reddish tinge with a huge light tan head and decent retention
S: smells kinda musty and dusty, a bit of funk, slight sour cherry and a bit of oak
T: kinda oaky up front before the sour cherry hits, a little bit cloyingly sweet. aftertaste is a hard candy like sweetness.
M: slightly prickly carbonation and a bit on the thin side but not quite watery.
O: not bad but there's better out there, pretty low on the sourness but not bad for somebody that doesn't want to jump in all the way quite yet. (548 characters)

Photo of ArrogantB
3.11/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle that I believe was $3.79. Dark brown color, a little head. This smelled a little sweet and tasted slightly sweet as well. One dimensional and honestly the most boring oud bruin that I have had the misfortune of purchasing. I will not be buying any of the timmerman's lambics as I assume I will be equally disappointed. (330 characters)

Photo of DoctorDog
3.23/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Presentation: 11.2 oz bottle into a snifter. "05/10/10" stamped on neck of the bottle.

A- Pours a translucent deep reddish-brown. 1 finger of fizzy light brown head, which quickly fades to a thin, incomplete cap and ring of bubbles.

S- Tart cherry-pear like aroma, malty-fruity sweetness, and some oak notes.

T- Slightly tart cherry, with a big hit of malty caramel sweetness. A touch of oaky bitterness on the finish. Inoffensive / pleasant, if not terribly interesting, tart, or complex...actually, fairly "soda-esque."

M- Slightly crisp with moderate carbonation. Medium feel.

O- OK. Easy drinking enough, though just not terribly interesting on any level.

Future outlook: This wasn't a "bad" beer by any means, but there's no real reason to purchase again. (767 characters)

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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
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