Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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89 Ratings
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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.32
pDev: 17.47%
Wants: 2
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: JoeyBeerBelly on 10-14-2010)
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Photo of metter98
3.63/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear dark reddish brown in color and poured with a finger high dense off white head that quickly died down but never completely faded away. A very light amount of carbonation is visible from the rising bubbles.
S: There are light to moderate aromas of sour dark fruits and sweetness in the nose along with some hints of oak from the barrel aging.
T: There is an interesting balance between sweet and sour flavors; the initial taste has a mild amount of sweetness, which transitions to a mild amount of sourness in the finish. Flavors of brown sugar, cherries and vinegar stand out in particular. The sweetness is slightly stronger than the sourness.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and quite thin and watery on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
D: The beer is rather easy to drink and goes down smoothly. I would consider it to be sessionable if it had a little more sourness to balance out the sweet flavors.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.2/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

330ml bottle - $3.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a very dark amber-brown body with a thin, collapsing, light beige head.

Smell: Gives an impression of store-brand cherry cola, though, as it warms, some more sensible malt notes hit the snout. Still, it remains very sweet-scented.

Taste: The flavor races by tastes of cherry juice, light toast, lighter roast, plum jelly, cola to hit a relatively modest, vinegary tartness that's instantly covered by a full-on toothsome sweetness that lasts until the rather fruit, but also very sweet finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium-plus carbonation.

Overall: Sweet enough to make one shudder in revulsion (I know I did). Like cherry cola dosed with stray Pixy Stix. Oooh, you see? I shuddered again. I'll likely shudder again when I see how much I wasted on this thing.

Photo of emerge077
2.15/5  rDev -35.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Produced on: 28/06/10

Attractive silkscreened bottle with classic lettering, fooled me into thinking this might be a somewhat traditional Flanders Ale. Nice glint of ruby in the light, and a tan head that has plenty of staying power, leaving some spotty lacing. There was no sediment in the bottle, I wonder if this is filtered.

Cherry cola and stale malt aroma, nothing remotely wild though it smells a little weird. Cardboard soaked in cherry coke? Vaguely woody with cherry pits, but that's really a stretch. More like a watered down blend of brown ale and cherry cola.

Hollow and stale cherry soda flavor. Nothing in the aftertaste but sugar. Yuck. Some low level malt flavor, residual sugar, and astringency, not tart or approaching sour whatsoever. This is a very weak attempt at a Duchesse knock-off... why bother? Fizzy and then flat with no residual flavor at all, just sugary sweetness.

This is garbage, and I don't say that easily. It's an insult to traditional Flanders Ale, and represents the sugary, watered down "wine cooler-ification" of traditionally sour Belgian styles. Out of 40 Oud Bruin reviews, this was the worst.

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.73/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours clear mahogany to transparent brown, fizzling white head, soda-like bubbles. smells like grainy belgian malt, medium roast, with dried cherries, raisins, and toffee. flavor is less fruity than the nose, more malty than anything, with a definite alcohol flavor, which is odd in a beer with such a low abv. its earthy and a little sweet. muthfeel has a sort of winey vibe to it, not acidic at all, but the same sort of groove and texture, add carbonation. overall not my favorite beer, certainly not my favorite belgian, but a servicable belgian brown. was expecting a bit more sour to it, but really there is very little of that happening here.

Photo of Mora2000
3/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours a dark brown color with a cream-colored head. The aroma consists of some toffee malt but nothing else. The flavor is toffee malt with some light cherry notes and some brown sugar. I get no sourness or not tartness. Disappointing. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nothing really interesting with this beer and not really worth seeking out unless you just need the tick.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.35/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a deep brown hue, slightly hazed and relatively opaque, with flashed of ruby at the deep parts when held to the light. Head is fine but insubstantial, forming a slick film across the top of the glass, and leaving some patchy, slightly scummy lacing. Body is fine but slick, and the carbonation is tiny and intricate. Looks good.

Nose is slightly tart and dark, with some pleasantly sweet roasted characters bouncing of the acidity—it gives it the sumptuous feel of chocolate dipped cherries. Hints of oak come through as well, although these are veiled by the light tartness. Slight peppery characters come through as well. Overall, it's a really nice and clear Oud Bruin.

Taste is certainly flatter, and to be honest, a little disappointing after the tantalising hints on the nose. Acidity is really pared back, leaving just a twinkle of funk through the centre of the palate, and a subtle twist to the sweeter, fruitier notes. Feel is very light, and there's almost no residual on the back, meaning that the sweetness tends to be the last thing you remember. It's not a great finish.

Feel is quite thin—it would really be aided by a touch of acidity on the finish to crispen and revitalise the palate.

Overall, I'm a little disappointed. I was ready for a really good Oud Bruin after the nose, and it pretty much fell flat on its face.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.88/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bourgogne Des Flandres

Pours a rich brown color, nice sized head and some lace sticking. Aroma of sour cherries and vinegar. In the taste, malty, slightly sweet, with a veritable underground of sourness. Brown sugar like sweetness, mildly tart, and somewhat malty. Mouthfeel is smooth and velvety. Overall, a nice flanders brown ale and a solid session change of pace brew.

Photo of chinchill
4/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

clear brown ale with a generous and lasting white head.

Aroma - yeasty and bit like a lambic; not strong.

Excellent and unique flavor but the most remarkable thing about this beer is the mouthfeel. While the body is not thin, the brew quickly takes on a light airy quality I have only experienced in one other brew (wish I could remember which one). Unlike many reviewers, I actually like that this oud bruin is not sour.

O - ignore the ratings and comments, leave your expectations behind, and give this special beer a try.

P.S. reading up, I see that this is a unique beer produced by mixing a lambic with a "high fermentation brown ale" ("infusion of Lambic") which is then aged for 6 months in oak barrels

Photo of TurdFurgison
3.45/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On tap at the Gingerman in Houston, 1/2 pint goblet. It was dark brown and looked translucent until held to a light, when light peaks through with clarity if low final transmission rate. Wet looking tan foam that laces all over the glass.

Not a bad nose, some sour cherries and whatnot, maybe a little too much vinegar but I get that in a lot of Oud Bruins. On tasting this is really sweet, not sour as promised from aroma. Some sweet malts are noticeable too, long malty notes and fruity esters in the aftertaste. A little reminiscent of Koeninghoeven quad from the malt and yeast (obviously this adds sour cherries to that beer).

I liked it, not bad at all, but I'm going back to my cask Elissa after this.

Photo of jrallen34
2.53/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2

11.2 oz bottle, drank from my Darkness glass...Pours like a darkened coca cola with a decent light tan head...A rather muted aroma of oak, with a little apples and just the hint of sour vinegar...The taste is really boring, its like an infant oud bruin that either hasn't aged enough or is just a gateway beer for those first trying. Mostly I get light oak, burnt wood, and a hint of cherries.

A boring oud bruin that should not be drank if your expecting a typical sour.

Photo of bluejacket74
2.85/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

11.2 ounce bottle, bottled on 05/10/10. Served in a snifter, the beer pours dark brown with some hints of ruby red, and has about a half inch off-white head. Head retention is good, and there's a decent amount of lacing left on the glass. Aroma is cherries (both sweet and tart), oak, and some vinegar. The taste is kinda like the aroma, but the taste is more sweet than tart (and not a good sweet taste), and there's also a weird off-flavor that I can't tell exactly what it is. It's not awful, but it's not exactly good, either. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's watery and has decent carbonation. Drinkability is average. Didn't really care for this brew, it's just not for me I guess.

Photo of Durge
3.25/5  rDev -2.1%

A bit weak, no complexity to enjoy but a decent sour fruit wine flavor to enjoy.

Photo of dcmchew
4/5  rDev +20.5%

Photo of ArrogantB
3.1/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle that I believe was $3.79. Dark brown color, a little head. This smelled a little sweet and tasted slightly sweet as well. One dimensional and honestly the most boring oud bruin that I have had the misfortune of purchasing. I will not be buying any of the timmerman's lambics as I assume I will be equally disappointed.

Photo of BeerForMuscle
3.75/5  rDev +13%

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.63/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours brown with ruby tints and a small, quickly fading head.
Nose shows sweet forest fruits, faint funk and a soft, acidic character.
Some of the fruit transfers through as a flavour, hinting at blackberries. Also some sweet malt and a faintly spicy finish.
Body seems a bit watery.

Photo of JoeyBeerBelly
3.3/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I got this beer from kiltedtxn and aggieboudreux, Thanks Guys!

330ml bottle served in a De Koninck Belgian beer glass.

L - dark brown with a thin beige head that left a thin layer of foam floating around leaving bits of lacing behind.

S - dark fruit and vinegar

T - their website says it best.
"Similar to the Flemish brown beers, but without the acidity, with an aftertaste that draws attention to its distinguished character."...
distinguished, yeah that's the ticket.

F - light/medium bodied with a fizzy feel.

D - it was ok as a novelty but I wouldn't drink this regularly.

Photo of Suds
2.4/5  rDev -27.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

The appearance of this beer is a deep brown color with a very slight white head. The smell is of a candied sour cherry...it's not exactly a beer smell. The taste is similar...the sourness is there, but a little muted, and the sweetness seems to take a lot more from sugar than from malt. Thin and a little watery in body, with a decent bitterness and sour pucker at the finish. All in all, this is a real dismantlement for the style.

Photo of StJamesGate
3.53/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark oxblood with a creamy tan head that rims and sheets. Winey nose with wood chips and cocoa nibs.
Dark malt loaf, light vinegary notes, some red berry and a light apple end.
Light, fizzy, crisp, slight cling.

OK, I get where this is pretty insubstantial: no oak, little sour, not much depth. At the same time, it is pleasant with a light tang and some warm malts. At 5%, it's never going to be Goudenband.

A session brune, if that's what you're after.

Photo of RedneckBeerz
4/5  rDev +20.5%

Photo of OtherShoe2
3.41/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Pours deep reddish brown with an off-white head. No lace.

Tart cherry and caramel and some toasted malt in the nose. Oddly mild.

Mild tart cherry mingled with some caramel and toasted malt. Finishes mildly tart, mildly bitter with a butter note as the palate clears.

Decent medium body with good carbonation.

Out of balance and not enough bitter, tart, or transitional complexity. Just ok.

Photo of elNopalero
4.53/5  rDev +36.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured this for a special occasion. Well, pouring this made it a special occasion.

Enjoyed it August, 2012 but the cork was stamped with 2.010—I’m guessing this has at least 2 years on it, maybe longer?

This pours a ruddy brown-amber color, similar to muddy water, thin coffee, or a burnt copper. Billowy foam topping surprised me with its retention—even after 30 minutes there was still some crema left.

I’m not sure how best to describe the aroma. It’s woody, with elements akin to orange marmalade coming across, but that doesn’t do it justice. Add in some hints of butterscotch candy, toffee, and put it on the sweeter side of life.

The flavor is …wonderful. I was expecting something tart, sour, but this is smooth and sweet with a velvety mouthfeel. There’s a light bitter-tartness that washes out while lingering. I taste orange marmalade, toffee, caramel, and a hint of butterscotch.

I’m glad to have shared this one.

Photo of crossovert
1.73/5  rDev -47.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

11.2 oz bottle, bottled on 28/06/10.

It pours a dark brown with a thick, foamy, and big white head that sticks for a while, forming rocky white peaks. It gives some decent lacing as it slowly goes down.

It doesn't smell like a sour really, just a regular fruit estery Belgian amber.

The flavor is sweet, no sign of funk, rather pedestrian. This is a beginners bruin, as a seasoned drinker, I don't even recognize this as an Oud Bruin, more like a Belgian amber ala Biere du Boucaneer.

Photo of PorterLambic
2.78/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a beautiful garnet red color with a light-medium tan head. Big to start the head drops to a creamy 1/3" and just stays forever. Great lace left behind.
Smell is malty with that wonderful, musty sourness, cherry and a hint of cardboard.
Taste is malty, cherry sweetness almost syrupy, some very slight sourness but not nearly enough, a light spice note appears just at the end of the swallow.
Rich, full-bodied, light effervescence, Smooth with a pretty decent coating of the palate and tongue though not enough to be a detraction. Flavor fades evenly.
If this beer had more of the expected sourness I would have given much higher marks on taste and overall. I really like the style, this one just falls short.

Photo of patre_tim
4.25/5  rDev +28%

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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
77 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.