Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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89 Ratings
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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.32
pDev: 17.47%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: JoeyBeerBelly on 10-14-2010)
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Photo of claytong
3.4/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

appearance - beautiful. looks almost black without light. put up to the sun you can see the darkest of ruby reds. one inch head with solid lacing that looks like spain right now.

smell - metal, musty malts, cherry coke

taste - cherry coke (enjoyable since i dont have soft drinks ever), sugar, slight malt and slight metal to finish it off

mouthfeel - crisp, carbonated well, good body for style and abv

overall - is this the bmc of flanders oud bruin? not sure, but enjoying the cherry coke. would pick this up again if it was a buck a piece. great intro for people not into beers, especially if they like sodas.

Photo of RuudJH
3.6/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Tasting some brews from this brewery, this is a far better beer than their blonde, as a beer in general. It's got more taste and the mouthfeel is pretty ok.
Dark brown colour, decent head, good lacing.
Smells of dark fruits, roasted seeds. Actually very pleasant.
Taste similar. Some tartness from berries and cherries, and roasted malts sweetness.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.88/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bourgogne Des Flandres

Pours a rich brown color, nice sized head and some lace sticking. Aroma of sour cherries and vinegar. In the taste, malty, slightly sweet, with a veritable underground of sourness. Brown sugar like sweetness, mildly tart, and somewhat malty. Mouthfeel is smooth and velvety. Overall, a nice flanders brown ale and a solid session change of pace brew.

Photo of meatyard
3.53/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, deep ruby with a frothy, 2-finger, light tan head that falls quickly to a cover.

The smell is mild vinegar, musty and very light cherry aromas.

The taste is a mild tartness, cherry and more of the mustiness. The vinegar is gone but it is still a bit bland.

Mouthfeel is medium to light with moderate to low carbonation.

Overall: This is not a bad beer but not what I would hope for in this style. There are enough other, better and available beers in this style that are more satisfying. I wouldn't buy it again.

Photo of janubio
3.78/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle, no cork, just an usual cap. Dark brwon colour, with beatiful reddish hints to the light. Good beige creamy head with lace. Aroma is very acidic, with fruits (cherry specially), wood, caramel and brettanomyces. It feels good on the tongue, although a bit light. Taste is acidic, fruity, sherry wine and brattanomyces are there.

Photo of PorterLambic
2.78/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a beautiful garnet red color with a light-medium tan head. Big to start the head drops to a creamy 1/3" and just stays forever. Great lace left behind.
Smell is malty with that wonderful, musty sourness, cherry and a hint of cardboard.
Taste is malty, cherry sweetness almost syrupy, some very slight sourness but not nearly enough, a light spice note appears just at the end of the swallow.
Rich, full-bodied, light effervescence, Smooth with a pretty decent coating of the palate and tongue though not enough to be a detraction. Flavor fades evenly.
If this beer had more of the expected sourness I would have given much higher marks on taste and overall. I really like the style, this one just falls short.

Photo of KickInTheChalice
2.85/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 mL caged and cork bottle into a snifter.

Appearance: This pours a murky cherry brown color with a white head. Eventually fading to a ring, the cap leaves a bit of lace.

Smell: This actually smells like pizza, which is odd. Behind that, there is brown malt sweetness and some tart cherries.

Taste: The flavor is sweet. Brown malt with some brown sugar starts the flavor. Some tart cherries next. Vaguely woody, and it almost turns into cherry coke by the end. Fairly weak, strangely sweet, and not very sour or good.

Mouthfeel: This is light and a little bit tart with soft carbonation and a light to medium body.

Overall: This is kind of a weird beer.

Photo of Squelch
3.03/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark brown colored. Moderate lacing.

Smell: smells of a lambic. Funk with some malty sweetness

Taste: My wife described this as a cross between a stout and a lambic. I wouldn't go so far. It's definitely a flanders, but lacks the uumph of other's Ive recently tried. It tastes watered down.

Mouthfeel: Watered down. Slight sourness

Overall: Not really one I'd seek out again.

Photo of musicforairports
2.88/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Ruby-brown, head sticks around a bit and leaves lacing, especially for the style.

Light aroma, some cherries, and some brown-ale-type malt.

Taste is pretty much cherry cola. Finishes with a hint of tartness, but I don't pick up any buggy, wild qualities here besides a faint, off band-aid quality I kind of caught in the nose. Pretty sweet. The flavor is refreshing and fine on its own, but for the style it's probably the worst I've had.

Light mouthfeel, not as carbonated as some.

A poor example of a Flanders, but if you're looking for a good cherry beer, this is fine. Not a problem to drink, but I'd like some complexity and at least some sort of tart/sour bite.

Photo of JMad
3.58/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I drank this from a tulip...

The beer was cola colored with a bubbly tan head. It smells like sour cherry cola with just a hint of sweet malt and oak. The taste is a little more complex with sweet cola, black cherry, molasses and a tart finish. The beer is lighter than it looks with lots of carbonation and a dry finish. I thought this was a good and interesting beer, proof that you can't trust all overall ratings on here.

Photo of TheNapkin
3.38/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Not bad for the style, but certainly not anything to write home about. While the malts are nicely balanced with the tartness (lots of prune and grape right up front with sour cherry and sweet malty backbone) the flavor overall is a little thin. That's really the only major complaint--the sweetness and maltiness seem so balanced because there's really no dominant flavor in the beer. Similar to a slightly watery Petrus Oud Bruin, but with dissipated complexity. Nevertheless, it's always nice to be drinking a barrel-aged Belgian.

Photo of DoctorDog
3.2/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Presentation: 11.2 oz bottle into a snifter. "05/10/10" stamped on neck of the bottle.

A- Pours a translucent deep reddish-brown. 1 finger of fizzy light brown head, which quickly fades to a thin, incomplete cap and ring of bubbles.

S- Tart cherry-pear like aroma, malty-fruity sweetness, and some oak notes.

T- Slightly tart cherry, with a big hit of malty caramel sweetness. A touch of oaky bitterness on the finish. Inoffensive / pleasant, if not terribly interesting, tart, or complex...actually, fairly "soda-esque."

M- Slightly crisp with moderate carbonation. Medium feel.

O- OK. Easy drinking enough, though just not terribly interesting on any level.

Future outlook: This wasn't a "bad" beer by any means, but there's no real reason to purchase again.

Photo of jwinship83
2.53/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

750ml corked and caged bottle picked up at the wheaton whole foods for $10. 2010 is written on the cork. drank from my duvel tulip.

A- this one pours out a translucent very dark brown colored body with ruby red highlights. there is a khaki colored head on top that while small, lasts for a very long time. complete rings of lacing are left behind. were off to a great start.

S- compared to the appearance, the nose is a let down. vague cherries. little to no wildness. a little bit of oak...thats about it.

T- the taste is just as boring. odd cherry coke like sweetness coupled with artificial cherry flavor. very little sourness. very little funk.

M- light bodied. highly carbonated.

O- i regret spending $10 on this. never again. the real bruin brewers in belgium would roll their eyes at this. typical brown ale (thats that the back says)? my ass.

Photo of Spider889
2.98/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottled on 8/10/10, reviewed on 4/13/11 at Winking Lizard.

Odd...

Tall head, dark cola brown color, decent clarity with nice smears of lace.

Smelled of dry Belgian yeast at first, then grew extremely sweet. Not bad for a Flanders I suppose.

Tastes "red." I can't describe it much better than that. Just, "red." It was an odd assortment of off-brand cola, grape soda, and cherry syrup. Maybe a hint of tobacco, not much oak at all. As I got further I was getting lots of grapes and wine, like a sweet muscat or something.

Overall this beer was unpleasantly sweet. I repeat: odd...

Photo of liveandletdie
3.05/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I bought this because it was a "brown ale" and english and/or american brown ales I typically like. However this is hardly a brown ale in either of the sense of those two types. It says "belgian" brown ale on the bottle, and it's clasified aas flanders oud bruin....not sure on all these other names- I am from the united states. Just didn't taste good to me, tasted sour and there was little other flavor to it. Very one note on this one, which was a bad note unless you like sour though I think this might be because of the style...however I still believe they should have labeled this something else which is why I am writing a review...if you like browns...you probably wont like this.

Photo of chinchill
4/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

clear brown ale with a generous and lasting white head.

Aroma - yeasty and bit like a lambic; not strong.

Excellent and unique flavor but the most remarkable thing about this beer is the mouthfeel. While the body is not thin, the brew quickly takes on a light airy quality I have only experienced in one other brew (wish I could remember which one). Unlike many reviewers, I actually like that this oud bruin is not sour.

O - ignore the ratings and comments, leave your expectations behind, and give this special beer a try.

P.S. reading up, I see that this is a unique beer produced by mixing a lambic with a "high fermentation brown ale" ("infusion of Lambic") which is then aged for 6 months in oak barrels

Photo of Domingo
3.45/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This is kind of like the little brother of the Duchesse de Bourgogne.
Pours a cherrywood color with a lot of foam. Lots of lacing from it, as well.
Unlike the Duchesse (and other Flanders browns), the nose and flavor profile match. Sweet dark malts that blend into a semi-sour balsamic note in the finish. While initially seeming somewhat complex, it's actually pretty simple. It actually even has some cola and faro/sugar characteristics that remind me more of the Dutch versions of an old brown. I'd say that it might even be a hybrid of the two styles.
A little simplified, but easily approachable and drinkable. Not too strong so it's easily sessionable if you want.
Nothing spectacular, but certainly something I'd get again when I have a sweet tooth or need something mild. Plus, because of the fairly low octane, it's a nice item at Belgian restaurants when you're driving, too.

Photo of Mora2000
3/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours a dark brown color with a cream-colored head. The aroma consists of some toffee malt but nothing else. The flavor is toffee malt with some light cherry notes and some brown sugar. I get no sourness or not tartness. Disappointing. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nothing really interesting with this beer and not really worth seeking out unless you just need the tick.

Photo of Suds
2.4/5  rDev -27.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

The appearance of this beer is a deep brown color with a very slight white head. The smell is of a candied sour cherry...it's not exactly a beer smell. The taste is similar...the sourness is there, but a little muted, and the sweetness seems to take a lot more from sugar than from malt. Thin and a little watery in body, with a decent bitterness and sour pucker at the finish. All in all, this is a real dismantlement for the style.

Photo of alleykatking
2.58/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Poured from 11.2oz bottle.

A- Pours a reddish brown color. The red really stands out in this when held to the light. One finger tan head that shows good retention. The head rests just over the beer most of the drink. Streaky lacing on the sides of the glass.

S- A little muted I thought for the style. The front end has a soured cherry presence which I was looking for. The vinegar did come through as well but not as big as other Oud Bruin's I have had. Ending of the nose is some wood notes mixed in with the soured cherries once again. Nothing over the top and to be honest even the vinegar smell was on the lower end....interesting.

T- Light soured cherries on the front of this beer follows suit with the muted aroma. There is a sweet malt like flavor that come in right after this with a hint of vinegar that washes away the tartness to this beer. Light oak flavor to the middle of the beer. The ending has more of a sugary sweet overly done cherry flavor to it. Some people have mentioned Cherry Coke and I can see where they get this from. Everything in this beer seems to be muted except for the sweetness which should have been the most muted of any flavor.

M- Light mouthfeel. Carbonation is a little on the high (fizzy) side. Cherries and sugary sweetness was left on the palate. Aftertaste is mostly sugary malts, light cherry flavor, and a hint of metallic flavoring. This beer is more on the sweet side and off balanced with that in mind. Some light metallic off flavors toward the middle that resurface toward the ending. Very light alcohol drying on the palate.

D- This is a interesting take on the style. A little more carbonated than what I am use to. There is a over the top sweetness that destroys any of the sourness that could be in this beer. Overall a lackluster beer in the style. Average at best...well maybe a little under average.

Photo of TurdFurgison
3.45/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On tap at the Gingerman in Houston, 1/2 pint goblet. It was dark brown and looked translucent until held to a light, when light peaks through with clarity if low final transmission rate. Wet looking tan foam that laces all over the glass.

Not a bad nose, some sour cherries and whatnot, maybe a little too much vinegar but I get that in a lot of Oud Bruins. On tasting this is really sweet, not sour as promised from aroma. Some sweet malts are noticeable too, long malty notes and fruity esters in the aftertaste. A little reminiscent of Koeninghoeven quad from the malt and yeast (obviously this adds sour cherries to that beer).

I liked it, not bad at all, but I'm going back to my cask Elissa after this.

Photo of cooch69
3.35/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer pours a beutiful glowing ruby brown with only a tiny loose head.

It's nose features a cedary wood character, some vinegar and sweet ripe cherries.

Taste is subdued on the sour side, but makes up for it in fruitiness and also a nice bit of earthy and woodiness. There is a slight bit of vinegariness and a sweet finish. Pretty unique from similar ones I've had.

Good velvety mouthfeel and medium bodied.

Photo of SilentSabre
3.35/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours up a lovely reddish bronze colour with about an inch thick off-white head that fades quickly to just a frosty haze. However, it still laces the edges of my goblet quite nicely, and the slightest agitation revitalises the head.
Smell is vinous and sour with those damp basement and horse blanket nuances which are so associated with these types of brews.
Taste, too, is a bit vinous, but only very mildly sour. The flavour here is much sweeter than I was anticipating. While this is certainly 'good', regarding taste, I feel it lacks depth and complexity which can be readily found in other examples of this style.
Mouthfeel is pleasant, however, I believe this could have a bit more discernible carbonation. Not a bad example of the style, but there certainly *are* better choices out there.

Photo of OakedCanuck
2.98/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

12oz poured into cervoise

This beer pours a nice deep reddish to cedar colour. Off white head with decent lacing. The smell is of cherries and some bready malt, noticeable Belgian yeast. The taste starts off sour cherries to me and finishes with a sweet candied sugar malt. I pick up a metallic like taste about mid palate, not sure what that's about. Mouthfeel is fairly thin and semi dry. This would be a good introductory sour.

Photo of bluejacket74
2.85/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

11.2 ounce bottle, bottled on 05/10/10. Served in a snifter, the beer pours dark brown with some hints of ruby red, and has about a half inch off-white head. Head retention is good, and there's a decent amount of lacing left on the glass. Aroma is cherries (both sweet and tart), oak, and some vinegar. The taste is kinda like the aroma, but the taste is more sweet than tart (and not a good sweet taste), and there's also a weird off-flavor that I can't tell exactly what it is. It's not awful, but it's not exactly good, either. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's watery and has decent carbonation. Drinkability is average. Didn't really care for this brew, it's just not for me I guess.

Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
77 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.