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Bourgogne Des Flandres - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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BA SCORE
80
good

281 Ratings
THE BROS
79
okay

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Ratings: 281
Reviews: 97
rAvg: 3.49
pDev: 17.48%
Wants: 5
Gots: 21 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: rastaman on 10-12-2002)
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Reviews by gnoff:
Photo of gnoff
2.83/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

25 cl bottle at Bishops Arms (Västra Hamngatan) Gothenburg, Sweden.
Deep red color, normal size beige head.
Mix of sour and butterscotch scent.
Some Belgian ale aroma as well.
Rather thin mouthfeel.
A bit spicy taste, with fruity aftertaste.
No bitterness.

More User Reviews:
Photo of DaPeculierDane
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Small bottle offered up at Avec Les Bon Veoux in Brussels. Brown-red body with ruby hues and a thin tan head that dissipates rapidly this whispy lace. Aroma of candied cherries and oak with a touch of funk and some coriander like spice. Taste is cherries and prunes with some candied sugar and a little woodiness. Sour but not insanely so. Light bodied and quite drinkable.

Photo of tbryan5
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of danthehopslamman
3.75/5  rDev +7.4%

Photo of Guden
3/5  rDev -14%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

A- Pours a deep dark brown with just a touch of ruby highlights coming through in my Tripel Karmeliet tulip. Off white head fades quickly into an oily layer around the rim.

S- Toasty malt, cherries, fruit punch, vanilla, fennel and hints of vinegar and funk. There's also a strange sickly sweet smell laced in that I find a bit off putting.

T- Very sugary sweet, almost to soda levels, with just a little sourness and toast. Finish is still fairly sweet but has a fruit punch flavor and tanginess.

M- Way too thick for a sour beer in my opinion. Medium carbonation is alright.

O- What can I say, this is a strange somewhat artificial seeming beer. It's drinkable enough but not very complex and the sweetness is way too high for my tastes.

Photo of iemailjack
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of RPMazzi
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of Jason
3.48/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz brown bottle with a bottling date printed on the neck of the bottle.

Dark mahogany, nearly black with a healthy looking froth on top. Ripe cherries, vanilla taffy, lemon zest and a hint of cake batter in the nose. Crisp and slick medium body. Sweet all around though the oak does pull on the palate, hints of ripe fruit; apples, cherries and lemonade. Confection / candy juiciness in the middle. Light hopping, faintly yeasty. Tartness struggles to come over the top but it does make it, still pretty mild though. Semi-sweet finish with more oaky flavors to meddle over.

A pretty good example of a Flanders Brown, one bottle is more than enough though.

Photo of Mattco
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of deebo
4.03/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Monk-Brussels

A-Pours a creamy tan that sticks to the traditional Bourgongne Des Flanders wine glass. Brownish red and clear.

S-Funky sour and yeasty with a little oak smell.

T-Fruity, yeasty and sweet. Just a hint of a bitter finish.

M-Any alcohol is hidden, crisp but not overly carbonated.

D-Easy to drink and tasty.

O-A nice flavorful easy to drink beer, not overly anything.

Photo of fionn13
1.5/5  rDev -57%

Photo of ehammond1
2.3/5  rDev -34.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Bottle (2010)

Thanks for opening this with me, UCLABrewN84!

(Aged for 2+ years)

Clear dark crimson and burgundy with a small light khaki colored head that leaves spots of lace down the glass.

A very sweet aroma with some medicinal cherry and grape aroma. There's some candied strawberry syrup aroma as well. There's very little tart/sour character.

The flavor too is astoundingly sweet. This reminds me of strawberry and cherry syrup with just a touch of bitterness. There's very little oak flavor or complexity, either.

Medium bodied with low carbonation.

Not a very good representation of the style.

Photo of Mantooth
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.43/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I just brought this back from a trip to Belgium, and I think it may have suffered during the flight. The bottle was still sealed, but missing a portion of the contents - perhaps it leaked out at altitude? Who knows, but I thought I'd better get on and crack it open. Still slightly carbonated, so hopefully not a complete disaster....

A 330ml bottle with a BB of March 2014. Picked up from a supermarket in Bruges last week. The bottle image features the famous belfry from the city centre.

Poured into a Delirium chalice. A deep reddish-brown hue with low carbonation. Virtually no head; a hint of light brown froth that vanishes fleetingly. A sweet, sour, woody aroma - notes of tart cherries, subtle sherry, brown sugar and a vinegary twang in the background.

The taste is sweet, with a fruity sourness and a short, dry finish. Notes of cherries, sherry, brown sugar, malt and hints of vinegar and wood. A dry acidity upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is smooth and dry but a tad flat (even for a supposedly aged style). Lacks body. Mild aftertaste of vinegary sourness and tart cherries.

Not bad, though I find it a little too sweet and in need of improved body. The low carbonation is also a weak point, though this may have been caused by poor handling (my fault). Otherwise, it has the classic fruity sourness of a flanders red - distinct but restrained. A decent representative of these unique Belgian beers. Worth trying.

Photo of jminch
3.25/5  rDev -6.9%

Photo of williamjbauer
4/5  rDev +14.6%

Photo of chinchill
3.9/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at the Atlanta Yard House.

A: clear dark brown-amber with an excllent beige head. Very good lacing

Aroma: complex with tart, fruity and liquer elements.

Flavor: Sweet up front turning tart-sweet by the finish. Moderately malty, Complex, lingering aftertaste.

Feel: medium body; OK carbonation. Smooth

O: Interesting and worth trying

Photo of ianjsullivan
3.01/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

ST: 11.2oz poured into a tulip

A: Dark brown with a think off-white head.

S: Some sour dark fruit, a bit of stone, wet malt.

T: Sweet dark fruit (raisin, prune), slight caramel, and a clean finish.

M: Medium and sweet.

O: Little aroma and little flavor, and the flavor available is mostly sweet. This beer is not worth a try.

Photo of rastaman
3/5  rDev -14%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Rather sweet and thin bodied, not one of the better examples of the style, but still OK, slightly tart cherry quality, but nothing exceptional. Light and slightly enjoyable, very downable.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a tulip glass)

A- This beer pours a dense walnut brown body with a little light glowing at the base of the glass. There is a sticky beige head that sticks to the glass in sheets but doesn't last.

S- The soft bright almost citrus orange tartness has some wet raw oak and rhubarb notes that grow as the beer opens.

T- The blend of cola and wet wood led to a mellow tartness and some brown sugar sweetness that starts to develop as it opens. There is a touch of cherries and citrus hints to a bright tartness in the finish. A well blended brown malt and dry toffee note has some paper oxidation notes and a faint aspirin quality to follow. There is a bitterness of grapefruit pith in the finish aswell.

M- The medium mouthfeel has a touch of fizz in the finish but it is gentle.

O- This beer is bright with some nice fruity depth to it and a soft tartness but it becomes a bit too sweet as it warms and the tartness is a bit too mellow to combat that.

Photo of TheLevi4000
3.75/5  rDev +7.4%

Photo of ste5venla
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of CloudStrife
3.55/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into a snifter. 27/01/11 imprinted on the neck.

A: Pours a dark hazy reddish brown with a half finger off white head. Too opaque to see any carbonation. Head sticks around for a few minutes before fleeting to the edges. Leaves faint lacing on the glass.

S: Has a pleasant tart/sour aroma reminiscent of cherry, raspberry and apple. Some dark roasty malts hint at raisin, plum and fig. Get a background of oak as it warms.

T: Less sour than the smell would lead you to believe. Has a bold malt characteristic that balances out most of the tartness. Still there is a strong fruit taste that reminds me of a lambic. A very sweet beer. Growing on me as I drink more.

M: Has the crisp mouthfeel you would expect and a fairly light body. A little sticky from the sugars. Might be hard to knock back a few in a row.

Overall certainly worth a shot by anyone who enjoys sours. I'm more favorable toward sours leading to a higher than average score. Nice that it is year round as well.

Photo of Mar02x
3.78/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - A nice red and clear beer with a whitish pink head.

S - Sour red fruit, mainly cherries.

T - Dry cherries, the body however isn't full, but nevertheless still tasteful and refreshing.

M - Medium carbonation that fits the taste. Somewhat sticky and light bitter.

O - A nice beer, something different, not to sweet, just try it once.

Photo of Sammy
3.48/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Attractive and promising Dark mollasses colour. mollasses aroma with a sweetness other than mollasses, candy? Then sourness and tongue numbing that lasts 6 hours later. An experience that is not necessarily satisfying. Not complex, but drinkable brew.

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Bourgogne Des Flandres from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
80 out of 100 based on 281 ratings.