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Bourgogne Des Flandres - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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79
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259 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 259
Reviews: 95
rAvg: 3.48
pDev: 17.53%
Wants: 3
Gots: 16 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: rastaman on 10-12-2002)
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1/5  rDev -71.3%

desint, May 30, 2013
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1/5  rDev -71.3%

kmk1503, Jun 14, 2014
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1.5/5  rDev -56.9%

fionn13, Aug 25, 2012
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1.5/5  rDev -56.9%

brewbaker, Jan 04, 2012
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1.75/5  rDev -49.7%

Robloc303, Sunday at 02:24 AM
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1.75/5  rDev -49.7%

zachgroves, Sep 29, 2013
Photo of BeerImmediately
1.88/5  rDev -46%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Picked up on a whim, and regretting I did so.

Poured into Duvel tulip at about 45 degrees. 2F of bubbly cream-colored head which quickly lowers to a film over a crimson-to-brown colored body. TONS of visible carbonation.

There's almost no aroma here - none of the classic Flanders Red. Got cardboard, earth, and prunes.

Flavor is quite disappointing. Rotten dark fruits, touch of vinous quality - sort of like a carbonated version of a kids grape juice box that's been rotting in the sun for a few weeks.

Mouthfeel is pretty thin, with far too much carbonation. No tart pull. And overshadowed by the bad flavor.

I'm hoping I just got a bad bottle, because if this is how the brewers release this, they should just pack it in.

BeerImmediately, Jun 18, 2011
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2/5  rDev -42.5%

jesus808, May 26, 2014
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2/5  rDev -42.5%

Dactrius, May 07, 2013
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2.1/5  rDev -39.7%
look: 5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

Deep mahogany in colour, crystal clear when held up to the light. The head poured thick & white then retreated to a light surface covering, still maintaining the lace on the glass. Sweet, syrupy malt is the dominant aroma with background hints of sour aceto, cherries and plums. Overwhelming sweetness on the palate, obliterating the fruit flavours that lurk behind. Some harsh sourness comes in the finish in a lame attempt to balance the beer out. The mouthfeel is sweet and sickly, almost undrinkable in any quantity. This beer has neither the sourness, complexity or thirst quenching drinkability of Rodenbach, the benchmark for the style. A disappointing, overly sweet attempt.

goatherder, Dec 27, 2008
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2.2/5  rDev -36.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

On-tap at Sour Fest

A: The pour is a dark amber-red color with an off-white/khaki head.

S: Not a very good nose. Everything about it seems fake and artificial. It's also very sweet. Lots of prune juice, grape juice, overripe cherries, and raisins. I don't really even get any tartness.

T: Second verse, same as the first. The flavor is just horrendously sweet, to the point of cloying. Prunes, raisins, grape juice (Manischewitz, maybe?), cherries, and a healthy dose of sugar for good measure.

M: Mediumin body with a medium carbonation. It's nearing syrup territory.

O: This was dreadful stuff. No thanks.

womencantsail, Jun 30, 2011
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2.3/5  rDev -33.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Bottle (2010)

Thanks for opening this with me, UCLABrewN84!

(Aged for 2+ years)

Clear dark crimson and burgundy with a small light khaki colored head that leaves spots of lace down the glass.

A very sweet aroma with some medicinal cherry and grape aroma. There's some candied strawberry syrup aroma as well. There's very little tart/sour character.

The flavor too is astoundingly sweet. This reminds me of strawberry and cherry syrup with just a touch of bitterness. There's very little oak flavor or complexity, either.

Medium bodied with low carbonation.

Not a very good representation of the style.

ehammond1, Jun 28, 2012
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2.35/5  rDev -32.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

On tap at Max's today, side-by-side with the Bockor Cuvee des Jacobins Rouge.

Deep ruby red with reddish brown highlights, a thin tan head with decent retention, this is OK. The nose is disappointing with some sugar, some cola, a little vanilla and no real sourness. A little musty, this is disappointing. The palate opens with a mild tartness, a mild rotting fruit-like character, some sugar and mild vanilla. Drying on the finish with a mild tannic character, this isn't very good. Light in body with a moderate level of carbonation, I really didn't enjoy (or finish) my pour

DefenCorps, Feb 13, 2010
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2.43/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Bottle I brought to share at DarthKostrizer's tasting.

Bottled on 1/7/10.

Pours a clear brown with a khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, sugar, and some very slight sour aromas. Taste is of malt and sugar with no tartness whatsoever. This beer has a pretty good level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty poor beer and a horrible example of the style.

UCLABrewN84, Jun 03, 2012
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2.5/5  rDev -28.2%

JustinQ, Feb 04, 2012
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2.5/5  rDev -28.2%

andy1701, Dec 10, 2013
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2.5/5  rDev -28.2%

atrocity, Apr 25, 2014
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2.6/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bourgogne des Flandres, a Flanders Oud Bruin blended with Lambic and aged for 6 months in oak barrels. It isn't bad, exactly, but it is fairly one-dimensional for the style. It's better once it warms up, but still pretty boring. Very sweet, with a vaguely cherry cola-like flavor and just a semblance of sourness. Reminds me of a really shitty attempt at copying Duchesse De Bourgogne (one of my favorites). It doesn't suck, but I can think of no reason to buy this one when there are significantly better examples of the style.

WhyBeNormal, Feb 20, 2011
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2.75/5  rDev -21%

Atomicskis5, Aug 25, 2013
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2.75/5  rDev -21%

safaricook, Jul 07, 2012
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2.75/5  rDev -21%

banger7, May 05, 2013
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2.75/5  rDev -21%

thegerm87, Jul 16, 2013
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2.78/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottled 06/10/10

A: Very dark reddish-brown with a tan and bubbly head. Great look to the beer.

S: Not a very strong nose. Faintly sweet soda-pop like smell of overripe fruit.

T: More sweet than sour, with a metallic after taste. While tartness is detected, expected something much more sour given the style.

M: Light with mild carbonation. Enjoyable.

O: Drinkable, but overly sweet. Could only drink one, had better Flanders style before. Might be an affordable segue into sours for those who have never tried them.

Seattleman, Jul 04, 2011
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2.78/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: Poured with an intense fizzyness that dissipated almost instantly, reminded me of a soda pour more than a beer.

S: smells funky and kinda sweet with some dark fruit character.

T: The fruit comes out first, maybe dark cherries or figs but very sweet, this is followed by a kind of funky oak brett flavor. I like the initial taste but it quickly fades into a kind of sickly sweet, slimy aftertaste.

M: seems about right but maybe a little too slick on the after taste.

O: Clearly I'm not a huge fan, it isn't bad overall but I wouldn't buy it again. The after taste is where it really lost me, almost reminds me of a root beer.

DimensionX, Nov 21, 2012
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2.8/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Chestnut brown pour with a cocoa mix grayish brown head. Fair retention in the shape of a footprint. Fancy silkscreen bottle art.

Smells like black forest cake batter and tastes like Weight Watchers black cherry diet soda. More of a sweet burst in back rather than any tart or sour Flanders character.

I've got 2 bottles left, who wants'em?

donkeyrunner, Jan 27, 2012
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Bourgogne Des Flandres from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
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