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Bourgogne Des Flandres - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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BA SCORE
79
okay

259 Ratings
THE BROS
79
okay

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Ratings: 259
Reviews: 95
rAvg: 3.48
pDev: 17.53%
Wants: 3
Gots: 16 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: rastaman on 10-12-2002)
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Photo of ianjsullivan
3.01/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

ST: 11.2oz poured into a tulip

A: Dark brown with a think off-white head.

S: Some sour dark fruit, a bit of stone, wet malt.

T: Sweet dark fruit (raisin, prune), slight caramel, and a clean finish.

M: Medium and sweet.

O: Little aroma and little flavor, and the flavor available is mostly sweet. This beer is not worth a try.

ianjsullivan, Feb 03, 2013
Photo of mrebeka
3.75/5  rDev +7.8%

mrebeka, Feb 02, 2013
Photo of spoony
3.75/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

From a 750 ml (dated October 2, 2011) into a tulip.

A-The brew is the color of swamp water: murky and brown. It is not terribly attractive, but not far from the style. There is a two-finger head of tan foam that drops to thick cap then lingers for a bit before disappearing.

S-I smell cherry cola. Seriously. This thing is sweet, with hints of cherry and oak, and something that reminds of me carbonic acid like one might find in a cola.

T-The flavors are pretty mild. I detect some cherry and vanilla up front with a touch of dark, "brune" fruit at the end. There is a fair amount of sweetness from start to finish. Sour power is very low.

M-Feel is medium to slightly heavy (for the style). There is little carbonation and a slick, watery texture.

O-I could not get the flavor cherry cola out of my head when drinking this brew. It is sweet, somewhat simple, and the malted, dark cherry flavor pretty much dominates to the exclusion of everything else. All that being said, I have had worse.

spoony, Feb 01, 2013
Photo of KiMiRaiK
4.75/5  rDev +36.5%

KiMiRaiK, Jan 27, 2013
Photo of harrymel
3/5  rDev -13.8%

harrymel, Jan 19, 2013
Photo of Danobold
4/5  rDev +14.9%

Danobold, Jan 19, 2013
Photo of tobelerone
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

tobelerone, Jan 10, 2013
Photo of caseyjacks
4.75/5  rDev +36.5%

caseyjacks, Jan 10, 2013
Photo of Guden
3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

A- Pours a deep dark brown with just a touch of ruby highlights coming through in my Tripel Karmeliet tulip. Off white head fades quickly into an oily layer around the rim.

S- Toasty malt, cherries, fruit punch, vanilla, fennel and hints of vinegar and funk. There's also a strange sickly sweet smell laced in that I find a bit off putting.

T- Very sugary sweet, almost to soda levels, with just a little sourness and toast. Finish is still fairly sweet but has a fruit punch flavor and tanginess.

M- Way too thick for a sour beer in my opinion. Medium carbonation is alright.

O- What can I say, this is a strange somewhat artificial seeming beer. It's drinkable enough but not very complex and the sweetness is way too high for my tastes.

Guden, Jan 04, 2013
Photo of allenson21
3.25/5  rDev -6.6%

allenson21, Jan 04, 2013
Photo of Vylo
4/5  rDev +14.9%

Vylo, Dec 30, 2012
Photo of thecheapies
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bourgogne des Flandres looks a shade of garnet with a thick layer of topper that left a foam coat on the surface after falling. Excellent lace.

Apple skins and some sweet malt. Stone fruits like cherry and nectarine. Little tartness picked up. Mellow nose with tangy pomme sweetness.

Black cherry, red apple, roasted grain, bitters, vanilla, and light wine-like notes. Very mild tartness with a hint of vinegary soured Merlot. Nice fruitiness. Tastes better than the nose smells.

Medium body with some sugary tack. Soft carbonation. Drinks easy.

Second beer in the Sour Tower Takeover tasting. Too much attenuation and not enough tartness for the style leaves this one sweet and a bit juicy.

thecheapies, Dec 28, 2012
Photo of ryanpj
3.75/5  rDev +7.8%

ryanpj, Dec 14, 2012
Photo of CWhite
3.75/5  rDev +7.8%

CWhite, Dec 12, 2012
Photo of gpawned
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

gpawned, Nov 28, 2012
Photo of colts9016
2.93/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This is the first time that I have tried this style of beer, a thank you from Donkeyrunner. Poured into a tulip glass at 47 degrees.

Appearance: A one finger head that has terrible retention. The color of the head is light tan, foamy and bubbly. The head left some lacing on the glass, not much though. The color of the beer is dark mahogany color with reddish hues hues. The beer has some carbonation visible on the side of the glass.

Nose: A strong fruity aroma like cherries, kettle cooked caramel, chocolate, and some diacytles.

Taste: A very sweet, cherry, chocolate flavor, and cooked caramel flavors. and a high maltiness.

The mouth feel of the beer is chewy, no carbonation, and sweet.

Overall: The body of the beer is medium and the finish is medium light. Okay, do not know what to think of this beer, it does not seem like a flanders beer that is acidic or strong in flavor. To me, is lacks a lot to make this beer excellent. It is just an average beer, nothing special.

colts9016, Nov 26, 2012
Photo of DimensionX
2.78/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: Poured with an intense fizzyness that dissipated almost instantly, reminded me of a soda pour more than a beer.

S: smells funky and kinda sweet with some dark fruit character.

T: The fruit comes out first, maybe dark cherries or figs but very sweet, this is followed by a kind of funky oak brett flavor. I like the initial taste but it quickly fades into a kind of sickly sweet, slimy aftertaste.

M: seems about right but maybe a little too slick on the after taste.

O: Clearly I'm not a huge fan, it isn't bad overall but I wouldn't buy it again. The after taste is where it really lost me, almost reminds me of a root beer.

DimensionX, Nov 21, 2012
Photo of BoringBunny
4.25/5  rDev +22.1%

BoringBunny, Nov 05, 2012
Photo of AbbyAlex
3.5/5  rDev +0.6%

AbbyAlex, Oct 31, 2012
Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.63/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a bottle into a Duvel snifter. The pour is a deep, dark, clear mahogany with a ruby red tint. There is two fingers of khaki head that quickly dissipates. The nose is sour, a bit musty, and a little fruity. Sour cherries predominate and there are also notes of vanilla and blackberries.

Medium body and fairly firm feel. Sour cherry-like fruit notes abound on the front of the palate, but they are not overpowering. They soften and sweeten a bit and take on vanilla-like qualities, then sadly vanish. The finish is a bit weak and I don't get acidity or sweetness to linger. The only flavor that lingers is a faint, earthy, blackberry note. The beer is easy to drink and quite refreshing.

Overall, this is a good-tasting beer with some nice complexity, but there are other beers in this style with a bit more intensity and far more lasting flavor.

deadonhisfeet, Oct 11, 2012
Photo of pbass78
3.25/5  rDev -6.6%

pbass78, Sep 19, 2012
Photo of csustar001
3/5  rDev -13.8%

csustar001, Sep 10, 2012
Photo of t0rin0
3.25/5  rDev -6.6%

t0rin0, Sep 09, 2012
Photo of CloudStrife
3.55/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into a snifter. 27/01/11 imprinted on the neck.

A: Pours a dark hazy reddish brown with a half finger off white head. Too opaque to see any carbonation. Head sticks around for a few minutes before fleeting to the edges. Leaves faint lacing on the glass.

S: Has a pleasant tart/sour aroma reminiscent of cherry, raspberry and apple. Some dark roasty malts hint at raisin, plum and fig. Get a background of oak as it warms.

T: Less sour than the smell would lead you to believe. Has a bold malt characteristic that balances out most of the tartness. Still there is a strong fruit taste that reminds me of a lambic. A very sweet beer. Growing on me as I drink more.

M: Has the crisp mouthfeel you would expect and a fairly light body. A little sticky from the sugars. Might be hard to knock back a few in a row.

Overall certainly worth a shot by anyone who enjoys sours. I'm more favorable toward sours leading to a higher than average score. Nice that it is year round as well.

CloudStrife, Sep 08, 2012
Photo of sourgrass
3/5  rDev -13.8%

sourgrass, Aug 28, 2012
Bourgogne Des Flandres from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
79 out of 100 based on 259 ratings.