Bourgogne Des Flandres - Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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281 Ratings
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Ratings: 281
Reviews: 97
rAvg: 3.49
pDev: 17.48%
Wants: 5
Gots: 21 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: rastaman on 10-12-2002)
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Photo of silentjay
3.48/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

dark cherry brown color with a light khaki head that rises to 2 fingers, settles at 1 and laces decently.

pretty tame aroma of black cherries, some sweet malts, a touch tart but more sweet.

flavor starts sweet and malty with a yeasty backdrop and some black cherry flavors after that, a bit candy-like, with just a slight tartness and a quick clean finish.

thin bodied with subtle carbonation and nothing left on the palate.

I'd drink it again, but for the price I can find much better examples of the style. just a bit too muted on every aspect.

Photo of JustinQ
2.5/5  rDev -28.4%

Photo of siddhartha
3.25/5  rDev -6.9%

Photo of Texasfan549
3/5  rDev -14%

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.63/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a dark red amber with a one finger medium pinkish white head with good retention and lacing. Aroma is sweet malt and sour fruit, cherries. Mellow flavor of cherries, sour and sweet, finishes with a well blended flavor of dark fruit, malt and cherries somewhat tangy. Moderate bodied. Somewhat subdued in flavor, but pleasant and satisfying to drink. This is a one year old bottle with unknown storage details (may be a bottle from distributor storage).

Photo of donkeyrunner
2.8/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Chestnut brown pour with a cocoa mix grayish brown head. Fair retention in the shape of a footprint. Fancy silkscreen bottle art.

Smells like black forest cake batter and tastes like Weight Watchers black cherry diet soda. More of a sweet burst in back rather than any tart or sour Flanders character.

I've got 2 bottles left, who wants'em?

Photo of rhoadsrage
4/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a tulip glass)

A- This beer pours a dense walnut brown body with a little light glowing at the base of the glass. There is a sticky beige head that sticks to the glass in sheets but doesn't last.

S- The soft bright almost citrus orange tartness has some wet raw oak and rhubarb notes that grow as the beer opens.

T- The blend of cola and wet wood led to a mellow tartness and some brown sugar sweetness that starts to develop as it opens. There is a touch of cherries and citrus hints to a bright tartness in the finish. A well blended brown malt and dry toffee note has some paper oxidation notes and a faint aspirin quality to follow. There is a bitterness of grapefruit pith in the finish aswell.

M- The medium mouthfeel has a touch of fizz in the finish but it is gentle.

O- This beer is bright with some nice fruity depth to it and a soft tartness but it becomes a bit too sweet as it warms and the tartness is a bit too mellow to combat that.

Photo of danedelman
3.35/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A-deep mahogany copper with a nice tight bubbly head about 1 finger high.

S-cherries mixed with some pineapple and a bit of a goat cheese/funk to it. Sour is a big smell too in this one.

T-subtle flavor. I mainly get the malt, and wheat with a hint of cherries. Not real sour at all. Drinks like a Rodenbach or duchesse de borgogne but without the full flavor of those. I have to be honest, I am very suprised how subtle this one is as the smell is pretty good and complex.

M-medium body, maybe a bit syrupy and plenty of bubbles.

Photo of SiRCRX
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of schoolboy
4.1/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Let me find my passport. This beer transports to somewhere in Belgium where ber is bier. It reminds me of the flemish sour I sometimes drink, but a little easier to drink (but only a bit).

It is dark and clear in the glass, with no head. This particular bottle apparently was bottled in October 26, 2010. That should make it (barely) ready to drink. It isn't mellow tasting - the sour taste is in your face. It overpowers everything else, but you can tell there are other tastes underneath there somewhere.

This was a nice, unique taste treat, but I don't need to drink this again.

Photo of RPMazzi
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of brewbaker
1.5/5  rDev -57%

Photo of cps98
4/5  rDev +14.6%

Photo of feloniousmonk
3.55/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Let's get into a "sour", shall we? Something brewed and bottled for Anthony Martin by Timmermans Brewery, Bourgogne de Flandres, Belgian Brown Ale, 1765, van Houtryve Brugge. Bruges' typical brown ale, matured 6 months in oak casks. ALC 5.2 %.

Dark, dusky, purplish coloration, small darkish head.

Vinous aromatics, very grape-y, berries and cherries with a hit of sour. Some sweet fruit, with a good dose of the other stuff.

Taste: berry-licious. sour-tastic. nice and medium, for the sour-heads among us. Is this the Duchesse Junior, the light sour? Sweetness, then some sour, …very tasty, but never over the top.

Photo of doughanson78
3.25/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Deep wine red. Very clear. Big two plus finger, light tan, head. Has decent retention with a very mild lacing.

S: Toasted toffee and caramel malts. Light sour funkiness. A slight root beer aroma. Pretty light overall smell.

T: Malty, with a candi sugar sweetness up front. Very light caramel and toffee in the middle. Finishes slightly sour and funky with a light cherry flavor.

M: Light body, slightly on the watery side. Very high carbonation. Very crisp.

O: It's an alright beer. Little light in everything from nose, to taste, to body. Nothing wrong with it but it won't blow you away.

Photo of deebo
4.03/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Monk-Brussels

A-Pours a creamy tan that sticks to the traditional Bourgongne Des Flanders wine glass. Brownish red and clear.

S-Funky sour and yeasty with a little oak smell.

T-Fruity, yeasty and sweet. Just a hint of a bitter finish.

M-Any alcohol is hidden, crisp but not overly carbonated.

D-Easy to drink and tasty.

O-A nice flavorful easy to drink beer, not overly anything.

Photo of duff247
4/5  rDev +14.6%

Photo of iemailjack
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of JoeAmerican77
3.55/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Very dark rootbeer brown, nice two finger tope head... Smells of caramel malts sour barnyard fun and some mild sweetness. Flavor consists of cherry flesh, sweet red strawberry lollipops, a bit cloying. and a dose or two of sour bugs. A medium body and soda like carbonation make up the mouthfeel.

Overall a bit too sweet for me, and I also wish it were more sour.

Photo of bob727
5/5  rDev +43.3%

Photo of Mar02x
3.78/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - A nice red and clear beer with a whitish pink head.

S - Sour red fruit, mainly cherries.

T - Dry cherries, the body however isn't full, but nevertheless still tasteful and refreshing.

M - Medium carbonation that fits the taste. Somewhat sticky and light bitter.

O - A nice beer, something different, not to sweet, just try it once.

Photo of beveritt
3.83/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: Had at a recent spur of the moment trip to World of Beer. Poured into a logo glass.

Appearance: Pours with very little head, this disappears quickly, Beer itself is medium brown with a slight reddish tinge and perfeclty clear. No sediment in the bottle.

Smell: Sweet caramel malt with strong notes of cherries.

Taste: Slightly tart cherry upfront with a malty smoothness.

Mouthfeel: Lower than average carbonation. Good body.

Drinkability: Not as tart as some Red Ales I have had, but enjoyable. Not sure why this says retired, just had one last night.

Photo of illidurit
2.95/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On tap at burger. in Santa Cruz. Pours a dark clear ruby black with a sudsy tan head. Aroma is faint with light notes of overripe red fruit and dark bread. Flavor is full of sugary cherries, like cherry yogurt, with a sweet malty finish. Lacks the tartness of a good flanders ale. Pretty much just alcoholic soda.

Photo of BeerForMuscle
3.98/5  rDev +14%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Crystal clear burgundy body with a thin head and many arising carbonation strands.

S - Sweet rubbing alcohol and ammonia. Plenty of sweet fruity notes and syruppy sugar and malt.

T - Flavors of sweet honey and delicious ripe fruit salad. Faint warm and sweet alcohol. Tangy fruit skin and dried fruit sugars. A bit of malt sweetness with a mild acidity and oaky dryness in the back end.

M - Fizzy and tingly on the tongue. So clean and crisply refreshing. A slightly dry finish.

O - A great flanders ale, on the sweet side but thirst quenching and highly drinkable.

Photo of zeff80
3.43/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Poured out a dark, dark burgundy color with a one-finger, tan head of foam. It left some sudsy lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of sour cherry and not much else.

T - It tasted of sour cherry with some sweet caramel and a good dose of malt.

M - It was crisp and smooth. Slightly soft on the mouthfeel. A light to medium bodied ale.

O - Not sour enough and too malty. I guess I see why it was retired.

Bourgogne Des Flandres from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
80 out of 100 based on 281 ratings.