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Philosophizer - Adelbert's Brewery

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63 Ratings
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Ratings: 63
Reviews: 8
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 10.67%
Wants: 5
Gots: 12 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Adelbert's Brewery visit their website
Texas, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  7.80% ABV

Availability: Summer

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Mora2000 on 06-20-2012)
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California

3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

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Mora2000

Texas

3.2/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer pours a hazy golden-orange color with a white head. The aroma has a good bit of sweet citrus notes, with some Belgian yeast, some wheat and a little bit of floral quality. The flavor is similar, with the orange citrus notes and Belgian yeast coming through the strongest. There is a little bit of spice mixed in, as well as some wheat. Everything starts off fine, but the finish is a little bit muddy, which detracts from the overall flavor. Thin mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Serving type: bottle

06-20-2012 03:30:26 | More by Mora2000
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kojevergas

Texas

2.55/5  rDev -32%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

1 pint 9.4 fl oz brown glass bottle with fun label art and hood-and-wire cap (aka cage) over a branded cork acquired at me local HEB grocery and served into an Independence Brewing pilsner glass in me gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are above average given the brewery, but the style is tough to pull off. Reviewed as a saison because it identifies as such on the label.

Batch No. 4. Bottled: 03/28/13. 7.80% ABV confirmed.

Served cold, straight from me fridge. Per the label: "Serve at 45-55 [degrees F]. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

The cage wire comes apart as I twist; shoddy manufacturing...

Cork yields a satisfying pop upon removal. No beer surges out. Carbonation seems good.

A: No bubble show forms as I pour.

Pours a six finger wide head of dull white colour. A bit thin, actually. No real creaminess. Kind of fluffy and a bit soapy. No lacing clings to the sides of the glass as the head recedes. Head retention is pretty good for the ABV - about 4 minutes.

Body colour is a clear yellow-copper of average vibrance. Translucent. Some minute yeast particles are visible.

I have to admit I'm surprised this self-branded saison isn't hazy; it appears filtered (in spite of the yeast particle presence). Otherwise, it's largely to style. I'm looking forward to trying it.

Sm: Has a bready doughy yeast character to it. Some crackery and bready malts. Pilsner malt. Biscuit malts. Lemongrass with a timid edge of citric esters. Clean barley. Straw. Somewhat grainy. Lacks the brettanomyces-induced funkiness you'd expect of a saison. I'm not getting any of the white pepper or milky notes common to the best beers in the style. No alcohol is detectable. Hopwise, I do get some vague citrusy and floral notes - but little else, and the hop presence is minimal (to style). Lacks any significant spicing. Has a kiss of Belgian style candied fruit; that's a nice touch, that - and present largely on the finish, lending it a certain sweetness on the backend that doesn't ever seem cloying.

A pleasant aroma of mild strength. I'm looking forward to trying it, though it isn't as lively as most good beers in the style.

As it warms, I pick up some well-integrated apple notes and more straw.

T: I get the candied fruit from the third act, definitely. And the apple too. Lightly doughy and bready on the open - a highlight of the flavour profile, and it's too bad there's not more where that came from. The foundation is comprised of clean barley, straw, pilsner malts, and Belgian biscuit malts. The sweetness is detracting from the balance the more I drink it, and it's quite distracting. It also ruins any chance for any subtle spicy notes or grainy biscuity yeast notes to come through - but that's okay, because there aren't any anyway. As a result, this really misses the mark when it comes to the subtlety and complexity you'd expect from a (good) saison. Too sweet for the style, especially in the latter half. Almost a bit syrupy, even - definitely off the mark.

Incredibly shallow depth of flavour for a saison. Flavour duration is below average. Flavour intensity is above average, but intensity is not the point of a saison; masterful subtlety and refined balance are key.

Imbalanced on account of the sweet candi character. Has a subpar build for a saison. Where's the farmhouse yeast?

Mf: Smooth and wet. Just a biteen syrupy. Overcarbonated. Presence is too heavy on the palate. Unrefreshing. Not apt for the style, and it doesn't complement the flavour profile well. Full-bodied without justification.

Not oily, harsh, gushed, boozy, or hot.

Dr: Downable but mediocre. I definitely wouldn't get this again - especially at its unreasonable price point. This brewery is quickly dropping in my mental rankings of Austin area breweries. As unsubtle and un-nuanced a saison as I've had in the last year. Not recommended. I'll be able to finish the bottle, but boy does it miss the mark for the style.

Low C-

Serving type: bottle

09-12-2013 03:36:11 | More by kojevergas
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Texas

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Pennsylvania

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Texas

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Texas

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Texas

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California

3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

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Texas

3.75/5  rDev 0%

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Texas

4/5  rDev +6.7%

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Texas

3.75/5  rDev 0%

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Texas

3.75/5  rDev 0%

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Texas

4/5  rDev +6.7%

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Tennessee

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Massachusetts

3.25/5  rDev -13.3%

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BucannonXC5

California

3.85/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Type: 750ml (25.3 oz.) bottle
Glass: Fuller’s London pint glass
From: Armada Wine & Beer Merchant in Santa Barbara, Calif.
Price: $11.99
Purchased: July 4, 2014
Consumed: July 5, 2014
Misc.: Batch No. 009; Bottled on Feb. 3, 2014

Poured an orange, hazy color with 5-to-6 fingers of rocky white head. Average amount of foamy lacing along the sides of the glass. Excellent amount of foamy retention on the top all the way down.

Smelled green grapes, peppery spices, banana, caramel, citrus notes, kiwi, honey, wheat, green apple and grassy notes.

Taste was more flavorful than the nose. Got green apple, caramel apple, green grapes, kiwi, honey wheat, citrus notes, peppery spices, banana and slight woody notes.

Medium body. Creamy texture. Average carbonation. Slightly fruity, abrupt finish.

Pretty decent for the style, but not worth the $11.99 price tag.

Serving type: bottle

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California

3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

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Texas

3/5  rDev -20%

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Philosophizer from Adelbert's Brewery
84 out of 100 based on 63 ratings.