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Murderous - Pipeworks Brewing Company

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Ratings: 133
Reviews: 19
rAvg: 3.72
pDev: 12.1%
Wants: 17
Gots: 18 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Pipeworks Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
English Barleywine |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 04-19-2013

A variation on Santa vs Unicorn, but with English yeast, much less hops, a bit sweeter with more caramel, and just a hint of Nelson Sauvin.
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Ratings: 133 | Reviews: 19
Reviews by Etan:
Photo of Etan
3.72/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

22oz into a snifter.

A. Caramel color, small light-beige head.

S. Brown sugar, caramel, cooked apple, light citrusy hop notes. Similar to a lot of hoppy American barleywines, but a bit sweeter.

T. Piney bitterness, toffee, graham cracker, grapefruit.

M. Medium-bodied, light carbonation.

O. This is much too hoppy and bitter to really move it from an American-style to an English-style barleywine. Decent, but not my favorite effort from Pipeworks.

More User Reviews:
Photo of rhoadsrage
3.43/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Batch #107
(Served in a globe snifter)
A- This beer pours a murky deep dense caramel brown body with a thin ring of beige and some short legs show up with each swirl. There is a sluggish carbonation and some lumpy trub in the second class.

S- The clean aroma has faint hints of deep toasted malt when it warms up but not much else.

T- The watery taste leads to spicy malt notes with a slightly dry finish and some bittern notes lingering in the aftertaste. There is a slight woody oxidized malt note in the finish when it opens up. The tart hops note pushes through in the finish aswell.

M- The medium-light mouthfeel finishes thick with a velvety fizz and a nice alcohol warmth.

O- The doesn’t really have much malt flavor and the fizz and alcohol are the dominating flavors. They are nice but not enough for a barley wine.

Photo of emerge077
3.53/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a large 20 oz. mug. Murky light brown, off white foam rises and forms a compact layer of foam on the surface. A wispy halo of lace forms in the glass, and not much thereafter.

Aroma is grainy sweet specialty malt, slightly acidic with a twang from the yeast.

Bitter and sweet with overt alcohol, not much hop flavor other than the bitterness. Specialty malt gives it a somewhat one dimensional taste, booze is present, sweet honey graham cracker aftertaste. Medium bodied and sticky on the lips. Slowly sipping on this over the course of an hour, probably best shared.

Photo of bismarksays
4.31/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Poorer from a bottle. Dark burnt toffee flavor. Lacks lacing or head. Ex cells in flavor and nose. Sweet real caramel flavor unlike any beer I have ever had. A fantastic take on the English style where malts lead the way and hops are there to balance

Photo of DrinkingDuck
4.23/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A- Copper red pour with a 1/2 inch cream colored head leaving a slight lacing. Medium bubbliness at first decreasing incrementally.

S- Caramel Citrus, and Hops. Brown sugar and just a hint of grape becoming more noticable as it warms.

T- Mildly sweet taste of caramel and Brown Sugar. Light grapiness from Nelson-Sauvin hops. A slightly bittersweet finish leaning more on the sweet.

M- Medium Body, Light carbonation. Slight alcohol warmth on the back of the mouth and throat.

O- Another Nice Edition! Wonderful Barleywine style that tasted even better with some aging.

Photo of KFBR392
4.05/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #137

Appearance: Light carbonation on the pour and active in glass while drinking. No head retained. Dark red color with accents of brown. When held to light it is somewhat transparent.

Smell: Sweet molasses and caramel jumps out right away. The english yeast is very pronounced with a pleasant medium bodied bitterness which reminds me of a traditional ESB. A good barley body bring you back into thinking it is a barleywine.

Taste: The front is smooth and balanced barley. The hop bitterness peaks in the middle of this brew but transitions downward well toward the back end. The sweeter caramel and molasses tones ride out through the finish.

Mouthfeel: Superbly drinkable with a nice balance of barley and hop bitterness.

Overall: This drank really well fresh and I really enjoyed it with about half a year on it. Nicely balanced, good hop presence and the english yeast plays very well.

Photo of vic21234
4.28/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

22oz bomber poured into a snifter. Batch number 107. One for now, one for the cellar. Served at fridge temp.

A- Pours a nice and cloudy dark orange or amber color. A small amount of white head quickly fades to the side of the glass. Some lacing is noted as well.

S- Initially I get an overall sweetness in the malts, Some toffee notes are there as well. Not much else here, just a very sweet smelling beer in my opinion.

T- Murderous starts off with an overall sweet malt presence just like in the smell. Some light fruitiness is there as well with some resinous hops. The alcohol leaves a nice warming at the back of each sip.

M- Medium bodied, low to medium carbonation, drinks a bit hot, great beer to sip on.

This is a great barleywine. Pipeworks is on the ball. Murderous would be a great candidate for some barrel aging too.

Photo of cosmicevan
3.94/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

picked up this bottle when i was in chi-town for work not all that long ago. enjoyed from a pipeworks snifter.

a - brew poured a caramel purple brown with a thin bubbly head that hardly lasted a minute post pour leaving a very thin skin of bubbles on the surface.

s - smell is earthy malts...almost marzen like with some toasted crystalized malt thing going on. little grape.

t - definitely english barleywine. some grape...and again, hints of toasted caramel like a marzen. very earthy.

m - the booziness is nice and well integrated for how i like a beer. carb is even and smooth. extremely easy drinking beer.

o - overall, digging it. not the greatest barleywine, but quite drinkable and enjoyable. fairly earthy but the grapey flavors and caramel hints compliment the heat nicely. would drink again.

Photo of homebrew311
3.93/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep chestnut with a bit of dark red at the edges. White head forms and retains a nice layer. The nose features rich caramel malts, notes of molasses, dark fruit, and a bit of sugar. The taste starts out with some sweet malts, brown sugar, and caramel and is followed a somewhat herbal hop bitterness. The finish is sweet and has a touch of boozy heat. This is a nice English Barleywine that would likely make the awesome base to a BA Barleywine.

Photo of cpetrone84
2.97/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Pour is a murky dark brown with a thin bit of caramel colored head. Nose is rich, figs and dates with a hint of chocolate malt, light tobacco note with moderate malt berry sweetness in the back. Taste is thin and watery. Flavors are muted and muddled with a bit of sugary malt, chocolate notes with a touch of tobacco. Light carbonation and a soft body with a bitterness lingering in the finish.

Photo of StoneTSR
4.28/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

APPEARANCE: Very dark in color, in dim light it looks like a stout, however in bright light it is just a very deep, dark and opaque mahogany. A few floaties randomly bounce around under a thin, quarter-inch head quickly settles into wisps on the surface of the beer.

SMELL: Molasses and dark sugar hit the nose first with slightly spicy undertones and hints of banana and clove.

TASTE: Some subtle brandy notes dance around big, dark fruit flavor - dates, raisins, maybe even a little plum. Molasses and caramel are also fairly dominant and the tale end has a nice spicy note along with a touch of citrus hops for some balance.

MOUTHFEEL: Beautiful. Rich and luxurious mouthfeel, but not overwhelmingly large. This goes down smooth and easy, nearly perfect.

OVERALL: Another hit from Pipeworks, and it seems to be drinking wonderfully right now.

Photo of emyers
3.5/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle poured into a Founders snifter. Batch #107.

Appearance: Pours a murky dirty copper color with a thin beige lacing. Not much head retention.

Smell: Yeast, toffee, caramel malt, hint of dark fruit, and alcohol. The yeast and alcohol have too much of a presence for my liking, but there are some good aromas going on.

Taste: Similar to the smell. Once again, the yeast and alcohol are a bit too apparent. Underneath there is caramel, dark fruit, and bready malt. I feel like there are some good flavors here, but they are weighed down by the aformentioned yeast/alcohol flavors.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied, a bit thin for the style, with appropriately low carbonation level.

Overall: This definitely seems like it will improve quite a bit with age, but fresh the yeast and alcohol get in the way too much.

Photo of kawilliams81
3.68/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a Pipeworks snifter.

A- pours dark copper with a 1 finger tan head. Some random large bubbles of lacing on the glass.

S- wow! Malt bomb. Smells more like a doppelbock than a Barleywine. Big toasted malts, bread, dark fruits, raisins.

T- very similar to nose. Lots of toasted malts, toast, figs, raisins, very little bitterness.

M- full body and low carbonation. Huge mouthfeel, chewy, creamy, crazy smooth and drinkable. No trace of alcohol.

O- good beer but not sure how close to a English Barleywine it is? Have really only had really had JW Lees I think that hasn't been a BA English Barleywine. Love the smoothness and creaminess though. Could do well in a sweeter spirit barrel, brandy or rum even.

Photo of Treebs
3.65/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

22 oz. bottle served in a Pipeworks snifter. Batch # 107.

A: Pours a solid ruby color with an off-white head forming on the pour. it recedes slow to a thicker ring with a thin film. Splotchy, soapy looking lace is left down the glass.

S: Light grapefruit with some candied orange peel. Some dried grass, light caramel malts and a touch of green hops.

T: A little grapefruit, slightly sweet, with some light roasted malts. Minimal bitterness with some caramel sweetness on the finish. Light leathery notes as well.

M: Medium carbonation with medium body. Sweet finish.

O: This drinks almost like a double amber instead of an English Barleywine. The booze is well hidden. While this is pretty solid overall, I have to dock it point for missing the note I expect in a typical English BW.

Photo of Chaney
3.25/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Batch 274 275

A: Poured a reddish brown color (more brown than red) without much head to speak of.

S: Meh….. boring. Sugary to say the least, no hop character, and very much like a mallow-creme experiment gone wrong.

T: I had a 2011 Bigfoot, so I guess it's not really fair. Again, nothing……. and I mean really nothing worth noting. Sugar, malt, processed candy, etc. If I were to try this sight unseen, I would have pegged this as a Wee Heavy or something.

M: Not much carbonation, but that's not what barley wines are about anyway. Seriously though, this was RIDICULOUSLY low in carbonation. Pretty much flat.

O: I totally love Pipeworks, but this one is not worth your sobriety. Skip.

Photo of MasterSki
3.74/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Bottle from West Lakeview Liquors. Served in a pint glass at Edward's poker night.

A - Tan foam settles to a thick collar, specks of lace, and not much else. Slightly murky caramel brown body.

S - Caramel, some green apple, hints of fudge and slightly dank hopping, and some obvious alcohol. This might benefit from some additional aging to cut the booze and enhance the sweetness.

T - Bready malts, some nice toffee sweetness and faint caramel. A bit of fruity yeast presence, and minimal hop presence. Alcohol is a tad more restrained here as well, which is appreciated.

M - Smooth, medium-full body. Medium-low carbonation, with a pleasantly dry finish, and only mild warming.

D - Wish I got more Nelson Sauvin here, but this is marketing as an English barleywine so I understand the restraint. It's a bit boozy at this stage, but I think it will be a good candidate for barrel-aging. Unlike Santa Vs. Unicorn this would be tough for me to down in one sitting; best shared at this stage.

Photo of sleuthdog
3.73/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottle from batch #107 into Jolly Pumpkin tulip

Pour: Ruby to light reddish brown with a slight half finger off white head. This recedes to a ring with some fine bubbles mixed with some medium bubbles.

Smell: Grapefruit, caramel, light touch of grass, brown sugar, and some green apple.

Taste: Interesting as I get an initial sweetness in the form of a brown sugar and caramel and this is quickly followed up by a hop note with a tinge of grapefruit and grass. Finish is a mix of mild hop but more sweet than bitter. Alcohol is a touch warming in the back of the throat.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied and a moderate to light carbonation. Somewhat sticky, sweet and a touch hot making it enjoyable to sip on.

Overall: I will say this has not been my favorite from Pipeworks but I still enjoyed it.

Photo of BeerLover99
4/5  rDev +7.5%

A: chestnut/mahogany body, khaki finger head,
little lacing

S: toffee, roasted nuts, sour apple, ripe plum
mild leather/smoke

T: leathery, smoked wood, big firm malt,
mild boozy earthy finish

M: med body, light bubble
semi-creamy/smooth mouth

O: Fascinating brew. Love the style
and enjoyed exploring this brewery
again. Will grab again for Autumn + Winter.

WONDERFUL; PICK UP A BOTTLE!

Photo of Fcolle2
4.16/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottle # 137 from the cellar

Pours hazy dark wood brown, a little light makes it through the glass. Head is a thin light tan film around the edge of the glass.

Smell is malt forward with aromas of toffee and some slight nutty aromas. There is also some slight aromas of honey and a light alcohol aroma.

Taste is malt forward with big flavors of honey some nut flavors and a big toffee malt sweetness. Very slight earthy spice and alcohol in the finish. Really tasty.

Mouthfeel is heavy in body with a big sticky malty sweetness. Very nice sipping beer.

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Murderous from Pipeworks Brewing Company
84 out of 100 based on 133 ratings.