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Urbock 23° - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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387 Ratings
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Ratings: 387
Reviews: 289
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 17.83%
Wants: 8
Gots: 18 | FT: 0
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Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  9.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 12-05-2001)
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Photo of yemenmocha
4.75/5  rDev +32.3%

Pours honey golden with thin white head. Nose is beautiful & delicate with honey, maybe honeydew, and faint malt. A leap of malt comes forward on the palate, with honey, and a luxurious malt component. Viscous body is amazing, and the beer has a hard to describe "hearty" character that is so lovable in bocks.

Fine example, though I think it is more of a Helles bock than a traditional doppel.

yemenmocha, Apr 17, 2009
Photo of StrangeBrewer76
3.8/5  rDev +5.8%

Light gold pour with little light head thinning out relatively quickly in my glass.

I smell apple skins and cider. No malt, no hops. I'm skeptical.

Tastes of disappointment and pears. Caramelized pear in the body portion that is ushered in and out on fizzy dollies leaving unfermented sugar stains on the carpet of your tongue. I could see this as a weak Belgian triple but a doppelbock this is not.

In all fairness I am relatively new to the world of beer tasting so I could be way off on this but I know there are others in my general experience bracket who will benefit from my experience. I hope to revisit this one when I have more under my belt.

Mouthfeel is generally good but I'm getting a lot of soft carbonation with just a little wash of a medium body in the middle third of the sip.

Drinkability, under controlled circumstances is pretty good. I might have a few of these but with the ABV and relative body in the mouth, three would be plenty.

I'm guessing this was one of the best beers in the world in 1700 but since then only the hype has grown in quality.

I'll try this again at some point in the future in case my tastes evolve but currently, I'm not looking forward to it.

StrangeBrewer76, Mar 15, 2009
Photo of wchesak
3.68/5  rDev +2.5%

Poured into a La Fin du Monde tulip

A- golden straw color with a minimal head that leaves quickly and leaves hardly any lacing, by halfway through there is no evidence of lacing

S- smells more like liquor than beer, with very sweet notes like a brandy, slight hop background, definitely can pick up the alcohol

T- do not see this as a doppelbock, the alcohol is present throughout, finally giving way to malt towards the end

M- light to medium body with enough carbonation

D- with the ABV, not a lot, and still can not get past its supposed style

eggenberg has better offerings, like Samichlaus, which has a higher alcohol percent but so much more beer like

wchesak, Mar 15, 2009
Photo of tai4ji2x
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%

330ml (?) bottle. no date found. poured into tulip.

clear straw color with amber tones. moderate head soon fades to just wisps and a foamy ring. lacing doesn't stick. eventually, the whole thing has no head at all. nothing.

smells like brandy or cognac, with fruity tones. caramel maltiness and very faint grassy hop, going into a slightly alcoholic and phenolic end.

tastes starts with sweet maltiness and caramel, with more fruity cognac, but also with the same boozy quality of a cheap distilled spirit. faint hops and bitterness only slightly offset all the booze, phenols and fusels.

mouthfeel manages to stay smoother and even lightly syrupy. gentle to moderate carbonation livens things up slightly.

still not a fan though.

tai4ji2x, Mar 14, 2009
Photo of IBUnit63
3.38/5  rDev -5.8%

Into my Alpine mug this thing goes...

Pours like...well...apple juice. Head is limited to a few little thin wisps. There's at least some carbonation...it's thin but it's moving quickly.

Sweetness is quite pleasant and well-integrated with the stewy Germanic malt...not so much Pilsener as Marzen-esque. Silage from Saaz hops makes an appearance, as does a slight presence of alcohol underneath the viscous sweetness.

Woof...there's a fairly metallic tinge up top...then the alcoholic sweetness meshes in lightly with the Saaz hop silage and clammy, stewy malt. A little warmth cleans it up a bit but there's a sort of wet dog quotient to it. Huh.

It's warming on the palate, which is good. There's a dry alcoholic burn...with that metallic deal...and on the finish yet another blast o' burn sends you on your way.

This one is, needless to say, a bit disappointing. It may be a little old but it didn't do a lot or me and the elements were scattered. Next.

IBUnit63, Mar 12, 2009
Photo of bobsy
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%

Very light lustrous golden body with a foamy white head that kicked up a bit of lace, but soon settled to an attractive spotty film. It reminded me a lot of a barleywine, and the high ABV seems more in line with that. It looks good, but it certainly doesn't look how it should for a doppelbock. The aroma is sweet and grainy, with a slight spiciness and noticeable alcohol.

Initial taste is quite sweet, and the alcohol is apparent, although it serves to dry the sweetness out a little and provide some more balance. There's also a bit of grain mixed in with the sweetness. There's not much to it at all, but for cheap beer who's complaining? Very syrupy, almost oily mouthfeel. Its really more of a sipper due to the heaviness of the alcohol, mouthfeel and sugar, but its a solid enough. The combined sweetness and high alcohol make this an almost certain headache inducer for me.

Eggenberg's take on the doppelbock style isn't particularly to my liking - they come in as far too sweet, and not nearly bready enough. This is probably my final attempt at a beer from these guys.

bobsy, Mar 11, 2009
Photo of Chelsea1905
4/5  rDev +11.4%

Very nice looking. Golden light amber with yellow hued edges. The head was nice and light, but died away quickly and left no lacing. But the colour made up for it, and I wasn't expecting too much lacing from a bock anyway.

Nice light malty, but complex, backbone. There smells as if there is a bouquet of flowers in there, but all of them are dark flowers...if that makes sense. Not too much European hops, but the sweetness of the malt is really pleasing.

Quite alcoholic in it's taste when you breathe in over the top of it on your palate. But then the sweet malt takes over and leavs a nice full lagery taste on the tongue.

This is a really nicely balanced beer, and it gets 4's across the board from me. The mouthfeel isn't quite an Ale, but isn't a lager either. Very nice.

At almost 10% I doubt too many of these would be had, but I drank this smooth beauty quite quickly

Scott

Chelsea1905, Mar 10, 2009
Photo of biegaman
3.28/5  rDev -8.6%

A lustrous golden body with a very tight hugging crown. The beer looks classy and enticing: it is magnificently clear, outlined in bleach white and its complexion beams with light. An upright pour mustered a whirlwind of bubbles to rapidly spin up the beer like a vortex. These little prints of carbonation continue to drift skyward but now at a much more casual pace. This looks marvelous albeit nothing like it should according to style guideline.

For such a light coloured beer it has a surprisingly rich and heavy aroma. I (perhaps erroneously) figured that since the colour was so light the beer would lack all the toasty sweet malts and rich sticky caramel of a darker version. Sure enough, however, my nasal passage is becoming filled with a lightly floral bouquet of distilled fruits and brandy soaked malts. Perhaps I'll finally learn never to judge a book by its cover?

Or perhaps I won't. Urbock 23º doesn't taste nearly as good as its aroma had me believe it might. The beer is largely void of flavour and borderline distasteful when it isn't. This isn't much like a dopplebock at all. This doesn't have the flavour or characteristic of fermented grains - it has the taste and composure of distilled fruits. It's piercingly sweet and scorching hot. The amount of boldfaced ethanol really imparts a spirit like quality.

There are hints of apple cider, muscat grapes, and candied pears but scarcely any rich maltiness or caramelization. It tastes a little like damp, processed white bread or dry cereal grains but not the honey and caramel lathered toast that makes this a typically delicious style. Schloss Eggenberg doesn't need to tout on the label that this is one of the world's strongest beers, the beer flaunts that fact on its own.

The BJCP (Beer Judge Certification Program) lists Urbock 23º as a notable commercial example of the dopplebock style - I'm not entirely sure why? I know that paler versions can exist but this didn't exactly exhibit all that is great with this rich German style. Eggenberg says this is known in many countries as the "Cognac of beers". While it does taste a little similar it certainly doesn't share one bit of the complexity or elegance.

biegaman, Feb 08, 2009
Photo of cjgator3
2.4/5  rDev -33.1%

11.2oz bottle

A- Pours a dark golden yellow with orangish hues and a thin fizzy white head.

S- The aroma is very sweet and metallic with a lot of honey and very boozy as well.

T- The taste like the aroma is too sweet for my palate with a lot of sweet honey and not nearly enough bittering hops to balance out the sweetness at all.

M- The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with a low amount of carbonation.

D- Overall, this is not a horrible brew, but at the same time it is way to sweet for me to enjoy.

cjgator3, Feb 07, 2009
Photo of wl0307
4.05/5  rDev +12.8%

BB 10/2009, served chilled in a tulip-shaped wine glass. The label says this beer "matures in the cellar for 9 months, till it is fully fermented and turns amber in colour"... a very interesting fact that I've learned today.

A: just slightly translucent dark orange-golden to amber hue, with good clarity and moderate carbonation mixed of large and tiny bubbles, while the white fluffy head settles fast to a thin blanket.
S: clean on the nose, suggesting yellow prunes and honey-ish malts; a swirl gives rise to a faint sweet lemony note, melted crystal-sugar, a metallic touch, a soothing floral aroma as of noble hops, and a sharp/dense fruity touch as of preserved pineapples (very common to a strong ale/lager, though I don't know where it comes from). Very settled and integrated, neither intrusive nor boring; rather nice!
T: a lubricating-, even oily-, textured thick-syrupy (like sugar-cane juice) maltiness upfront is closely ensued by a clean floral-hop palate, and quickly overtaken by an even cleaner hop bitterness with an unconventional spicy "bite". Not particularly bitter in the aftertaste, but here the residual sour-sweet fruity hints of yellow-prunes (apparently from the long-ageing process?) and crystal-sugar manage to linger well, resulting in a thick but never cloying nor alcoholic finish.
M&D: syrupy-rich on the palate but the smooth carbonation remains the refreshing input to keep the balance right, and the alc. (9.6%abv.) really is surprisingly well-hidden! Having tried only a couple of Eisbock/Doppelbock, I must say I find this one a very well-made bock benefiting from a sound body and supreme balance. Not a "wow" kind of beer in my book, but really I can't doubt the integrity of the overall performance at all and can surely kill a few bottles when my budget allows it!

wl0307, Feb 05, 2009
Photo of allboutbierge
3.3/5  rDev -8.1%

Not bad at all, but a rather unexciting beer.

Appearance is very clear and a bit lighter than expected. Carbonation is almost nil. Aroma is very boozy, flavor is the same and very sweet. Dried cherries? Dried Pear? Sweet aftertaste. Taste of alcohol is substantial. Drinks almost like a cognac.

allboutbierge, Jan 29, 2009
Photo of Macca
3.73/5  rDev +3.9%

This poured a copper colour. A centimetre or two of head drops away to a light covering. Clear.

A sweet aroma. Alcohol is very evident.

A nice whack of alcoholic warmth on the palate. Some nice sweet fruits as well. They have found a pretty good balance here with the alcohol.

The mouthfeel is almost syrupy. It has great length.

It is certainly not a session beer, and they are kidding themselves with the "one of the strongest beers in the world" line especially when they make a 14% monster themselves but it is a good sipper. A nicely balanced end of the night brew.

Macca, Jan 07, 2009
Photo of droomyster
3.43/5  rDev -4.5%

Pours a clear yellow that borders on orange, with very little in the way of head thanks. This beer bleeds alcohol fumes so much that it almost burns the eyes and nose; seriously, the overwhelming alcoholic action detracts from what might otherwise be an excellent beer. It has fruity, sweet aromas; its interesting that and earthy, herbaceous hops are detectable on the nose but not so much on the palate. Tastes of a carmelly, syrupy sweetness with too much alcohol. Its smooth full body is its best characteristic. An interesting beer with some jagged edges; worth trying.

droomyster, Jan 06, 2009
Photo of thekanna
3.83/5  rDev +6.7%

Had this at The Saloon on U St., Washington, D.C.

Appearance: Coppery, clear color with no head (or head that dissipated quickly).

Smell: Faint yeasts and cloves. Overall honey sweetness.

Taste: Honey is the most apparent taste; somewhat reminiscent of Barbar. Overtones of almost honey-sweetened black tea, with slight nuttiness. There seems to be an icy, refreshing complexion to the beer that makes it colder in your mouth than the temperature at which the beer was served.

Overall: A nice sipping beer; good for sampling, but too basic to justify the price for a small glass.

thekanna, Dec 30, 2008
Photo of froghop
2.65/5  rDev -26.2%

pours a clear dark yellow with a thin white head that goes away quickly, and no lacing.

smell is of grapes, fruit, some floral, alcohol, and citrus in the back.

taste is flat, sweet fruit, and malt, ends slightly bitter and warming.

overall i would not classify this as a doppelbock more of a belgium ale.

froghop, Dec 15, 2008
Photo of beerthulhu
3.6/5  rDev +0.3%

A: Poured a medium golden-orange color with a thin compact white head.

S: a sweet malt aroma with noticeable sugar and honey sweetness along with fruit and alcohol.

T: The flavor was sweet, with some honeynut bread for flavor with some fresh fruit, cantelope, mellons. Very sweet grains in the start before finishing with some sour orange peels and a good bittering hop bite.

M: hot and spicy, sweet and syrupy.

D: Okay drinkability, different per style but really sweet and sugary with a dose of alcohol may limit repeats. A decent try but wouldn't bother having seconds on this one.

beerthulhu, Dec 06, 2008
Photo of corby112
4.13/5  rDev +15%

Pours a nice golden color with a thin white head that quickly fades, leaving no lacing. Has a sweet alcohol and roasted malty aroma. Strong alcohol flavor with sweet hints of caramel, chocolate, coffee, toffee and slight nut presence. Very pleasant, very quaffable interpretation.

corby112, Dec 02, 2008
Photo of albern
4.35/5  rDev +21.2%

I had this at Legends in New Suffolk. What an exceptional bock beer. It poured a clear, amber color with a smallish off white, foamy head, no lacing or much retention. The nose on the beer was good, complex, lots of caramelized malts, spices.

As is the case with most bocks, this was not very carbonated, had a syrupy consistency, was very sweet, had loads of caramelized malts, licorice flavors, some spiciness in the finish, and very nice, warming ABV that was not strong nor throaty. The beer was liqueur like in its character, with some anise and licorice flavors. This was an exceptional sipping beer, that although strong, was well masked in alcohol content. What a great find. L'Chaim.

albern, Nov 29, 2008
Photo of Pencible
4.1/5  rDev +14.2%

This poured a bright, clear gold with a bit of off-white head. It smelled like honey wheat, molasses, and sour apple, with a bit of wild yeast and lemon grass. It tasted like honey wheat and rich barley, with a bit of lemon hops and yeast. It was watery with some carbonation, and had a bittersweet aftertaste. Overall this initially seemed very similar to the Eggengerg Dunkel, but the more I deconstructed it, the more differences I found. This was much lighter, especially for a doppelbock. But it was still quite tasty, very clean, and super easy to drink. It had decent body, and hid the alcohol very well. I probably prefer the darkness and complexity of the Dunkel, but this was still a great beer.

Pencible, Nov 22, 2008
Photo of TheMistler
3.18/5  rDev -11.4%

Orange / gold in color, clear to maybe slightly hazy. Continuous and effervescent carbonation props up a long lasting, thick film of head in the middle, with a decent ring and good lacing.

A sweet malt nose. Apples and light fruits, crystallized sugar, and some caramel to boot. Maybe some breadiness and very slight alcohol warming. Just... really sweet.

Pear and apple to the taste, which is again sweet. Every note is caramelized. There is some alcohol spice, but not much in the way of warming, probably because it is basically chilled syrup.

Tasty if sipped very slowly, the sweetness can get cloying fast. Not drinkable.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.

TheMistler, Nov 21, 2008
Photo of TerryW
2.93/5  rDev -18.4%

Pours clear gold with lots of carbonation. Good-sized head on pouring that quickly disappears becoming just a ring. No lace.

Aroma is immediately noticeable on cracking the bottle and reminds me of a cider. Fruity and boozy.

This carries through to the flavour of the beer. A little too sweet up front, but then fruit and alcohol. Heavy mouth feel. The whole thing is along the lines of a barley wine.

Built for sippin' not for quaffing. Best suited as a slow after dinner beer and consumed as a one off. Passable, but not to my taste.

TerryW, Nov 07, 2008
Photo of steelcutoats
2.73/5  rDev -24%

Urbock 23

I bought this sweet baby down at The Headkeeper in Greensburg. I saw that it was brewed by the same people that brought me my wonderful Samichlaus so I figured I'd give it a try. I poured an 11.2 oz. bottle into my tasting snifter at just below 40 or so degrees. There was a small white head that disappeared as soon as the bottle was completely emptied. The beer was crystal clear, no sediment in the glass and a ruby-orange color. The aroma was a bit musky, with a fair bit of hops and malt in the background. The taste was pleasant, a bit bitter and very little carbonation. With an alcohol content of 9.6% you can hardly taste the alcohol in it. A good beer overall, will probably recommend it to fellow drinkers in the future.

steelcutoats, Oct 19, 2008
Photo of RobH
3.38/5  rDev -5.8%

11.2oz bottle

I very much agree with other posters that this beer all in all fails to live up to prior expectations.

A: Thinking it's a Doppelbock, what you actually get when you pour it is a light colored beer with little head that dissipates quickly to nothing.

S & T: You get a very strong alcohol smell (and not much else) that carries over to dominate the taste profile.

M: The mouth feel is OK in that it's not a watery consistency at all.

Drinkability: I'm neither rushing out to get another one, nor will I be quick to recommend this one. I agree it seems to be incorrectly classified on this an other websites as a Doppelbock, and if anything it should be considered a Helles Bock, or maybe a Euro Strong Lager given the high ABV.

RobH, Oct 05, 2008
Photo of UGADawgGuy
3.55/5  rDev -1.1%

Maybe I need some more education regarding the difference between a bock and a doppelbock...

Appearance: This pours and looks like an English barleywine, as far as I'm concerned. A vigorous pour yields a very short-lived half-finger head, atop a nice-looking dark golden body. This beer is translucent, but a little on the viscous side. Lacing is non-existent.

Smell: Fermented honey. Frankly, that's all I detect.

Taste: Like a suped-up mead, with hints of toasted malt and sorghum. Pretty simple and straightforward, albeit strong.

Mouthfeel: This is where the beer shines. It's thick, heavy, and only mildly carbonated, again reminiscent of a barleywine. My only complaint is a strange absence of tongue/throat coating. I'd kind of like some of that with this beer.

Drinkability: Well, this is a fairly strong brew, so I don't think I could handle more than MAYBE two in a sitting. It's warming and thick enough to discourage a long drinking session. All in all, this urbock is a nice cold-weather beer, but you probably won't want to drink more than one at a time.

UGADawgGuy, Sep 28, 2008
Photo of blackie
4/5  rDev +11.4%

a: served in what is basically a miniature wine glass, the beer is a light honey-golden in color with a big white head, light retention after the recession

s: sweet pale malt sugars dominate and carry an aroma of baked green apple with a heavy honey sauce, instantly reminiscent of a mead in its honeyed booziness, hops pulpy and herbal/grassy with just a touch of dried lemon peel

m: not quite syrupy, but close, carbonation around medium in level

t: similar in makeup to the aroma, big on the sweet pale grain and honeyed apple flavors, white figs, hops papery and impart a moderate bitterness with some light citrus, appropriately boozy, certainly not to style but I really enjoyed the flavor

d: limited, but a nice sipper

overall: fuck the style constraints, this is much better than a "B" beer in my book, need to pick up a bottle, very nice and quite unique

glass at The Saloon in DC

blackie, Sep 28, 2008
Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
81 out of 100 based on 387 ratings.