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Urbock 23° - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Ratings: 405
Reviews: 292
rAvg: 3.58
pDev: 17.88%
Wants: 10
Gots: 22 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  9.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Bierman9 on 12-05-2001

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Photo of biegaman
3.33/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A lustrous golden body with a very tight hugging crown. The beer looks classy and enticing: it is magnificently clear, outlined in bleach white and its complexion beams with light. An upright pour mustered a whirlwind of bubbles to rapidly spin up the beer like a vortex. These little prints of carbonation continue to drift skyward but now at a much more casual pace. This looks marvelous albeit nothing like it should according to style guideline.

For such a light coloured beer it has a surprisingly rich and heavy aroma. I (perhaps erroneously) figured that since the colour was so light the beer would lack all the toasty sweet malts and rich sticky caramel of a darker version. Sure enough, however, my nasal passage is becoming filled with a lightly floral bouquet of distilled fruits and brandy soaked malts. Perhaps I'll finally learn never to judge a book by its cover?

Or perhaps I won't. Urbock 23º doesn't taste nearly as good as its aroma had me believe it might. The beer is largely void of flavour and borderline distasteful when it isn't. This isn't much like a dopplebock at all. This doesn't have the flavour or characteristic of fermented grains - it has the taste and composure of distilled fruits. It's piercingly sweet and scorching hot. The amount of boldfaced ethanol really imparts a spirit like quality.

There are hints of apple cider, muscat grapes, and candied pears but scarcely any rich maltiness or caramelization. It tastes a little like damp, processed white bread or dry cereal grains but not the honey and caramel lathered toast that makes this a typically delicious style. Schloss Eggenberg doesn't need to tout on the label that this is one of the world's strongest beers, the beer flaunts that fact on its own.

The BJCP (Beer Judge Certification Program) lists Urbock 23º as a notable commercial example of the dopplebock style - I'm not entirely sure why? I know that paler versions can exist but this didn't exactly exhibit all that is great with this rich German style. Eggenberg says this is known in many countries as the "Cognac of beers". While it does taste a little similar it certainly doesn't share one bit of the complexity or elegance.

Photo of cjgator3
2.4/5  rDev -33%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

11.2oz bottle

A- Pours a dark golden yellow with orangish hues and a thin fizzy white head.

S- The aroma is very sweet and metallic with a lot of honey and very boozy as well.

T- The taste like the aroma is too sweet for my palate with a lot of sweet honey and not nearly enough bittering hops to balance out the sweetness at all.

M- The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with a low amount of carbonation.

D- Overall, this is not a horrible brew, but at the same time it is way to sweet for me to enjoy.

Photo of wl0307
4.03/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

BB 10/2009, served chilled in a tulip-shaped wine glass. The label says this beer "matures in the cellar for 9 months, till it is fully fermented and turns amber in colour"... a very interesting fact that I've learned today.

A: just slightly translucent dark orange-golden to amber hue, with good clarity and moderate carbonation mixed of large and tiny bubbles, while the white fluffy head settles fast to a thin blanket.
S: clean on the nose, suggesting yellow prunes and honey-ish malts; a swirl gives rise to a faint sweet lemony note, melted crystal-sugar, a metallic touch, a soothing floral aroma as of noble hops, and a sharp/dense fruity touch as of preserved pineapples (very common to a strong ale/lager, though I don't know where it comes from). Very settled and integrated, neither intrusive nor boring; rather nice!
T: a lubricating-, even oily-, textured thick-syrupy (like sugar-cane juice) maltiness upfront is closely ensued by a clean floral-hop palate, and quickly overtaken by an even cleaner hop bitterness with an unconventional spicy "bite". Not particularly bitter in the aftertaste, but here the residual sour-sweet fruity hints of yellow-prunes (apparently from the long-ageing process?) and crystal-sugar manage to linger well, resulting in a thick but never cloying nor alcoholic finish.
M&D: syrupy-rich on the palate but the smooth carbonation remains the refreshing input to keep the balance right, and the alc. (9.6%abv.) really is surprisingly well-hidden! Having tried only a couple of Eisbock/Doppelbock, I must say I find this one a very well-made bock benefiting from a sound body and supreme balance. Not a "wow" kind of beer in my book, but really I can't doubt the integrity of the overall performance at all and can surely kill a few bottles when my budget allows it!

Photo of allboutbierge
3.28/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Not bad at all, but a rather unexciting beer.

Appearance is very clear and a bit lighter than expected. Carbonation is almost nil. Aroma is very boozy, flavor is the same and very sweet. Dried cherries? Dried Pear? Sweet aftertaste. Taste of alcohol is substantial. Drinks almost like a cognac.

Photo of Macca
3.74/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This poured a copper colour. A centimetre or two of head drops away to a light covering. Clear.

A sweet aroma. Alcohol is very evident.

A nice whack of alcoholic warmth on the palate. Some nice sweet fruits as well. They have found a pretty good balance here with the alcohol.

The mouthfeel is almost syrupy. It has great length.

It is certainly not a session beer, and they are kidding themselves with the "one of the strongest beers in the world" line especially when they make a 14% monster themselves but it is a good sipper. A nicely balanced end of the night brew.

Photo of droomyster
3.42/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours a clear yellow that borders on orange, with very little in the way of head thanks. This beer bleeds alcohol fumes so much that it almost burns the eyes and nose; seriously, the overwhelming alcoholic action detracts from what might otherwise be an excellent beer. It has fruity, sweet aromas; its interesting that and earthy, herbaceous hops are detectable on the nose but not so much on the palate. Tastes of a carmelly, syrupy sweetness with too much alcohol. Its smooth full body is its best characteristic. An interesting beer with some jagged edges; worth trying.

Photo of thekanna
3.82/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Had this at The Saloon on U St., Washington, D.C.

Appearance: Coppery, clear color with no head (or head that dissipated quickly).

Smell: Faint yeasts and cloves. Overall honey sweetness.

Taste: Honey is the most apparent taste; somewhat reminiscent of Barbar. Overtones of almost honey-sweetened black tea, with slight nuttiness. There seems to be an icy, refreshing complexion to the beer that makes it colder in your mouth than the temperature at which the beer was served.

Overall: A nice sipping beer; good for sampling, but too basic to justify the price for a small glass.

Photo of froghop
2.67/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

pours a clear dark yellow with a thin white head that goes away quickly, and no lacing.

smell is of grapes, fruit, some floral, alcohol, and citrus in the back.

taste is flat, sweet fruit, and malt, ends slightly bitter and warming.

overall i would not classify this as a doppelbock more of a belgium ale.

Photo of beerthulhu
3.62/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a medium golden-orange color with a thin compact white head.

S: a sweet malt aroma with noticeable sugar and honey sweetness along with fruit and alcohol.

T: The flavor was sweet, with some honeynut bread for flavor with some fresh fruit, cantelope, mellons. Very sweet grains in the start before finishing with some sour orange peels and a good bittering hop bite.

M: hot and spicy, sweet and syrupy.

D: Okay drinkability, different per style but really sweet and sugary with a dose of alcohol may limit repeats. A decent try but wouldn't bother having seconds on this one.

Photo of corby112
4.08/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice golden color with a thin white head that quickly fades, leaving no lacing. Has a sweet alcohol and roasted malty aroma. Strong alcohol flavor with sweet hints of caramel, chocolate, coffee, toffee and slight nut presence. Very pleasant, very quaffable interpretation.

Photo of albern
4.32/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Legends in New Suffolk. What an exceptional bock beer. It poured a clear, amber color with a smallish off white, foamy head, no lacing or much retention. The nose on the beer was good, complex, lots of caramelized malts, spices.

As is the case with most bocks, this was not very carbonated, had a syrupy consistency, was very sweet, had loads of caramelized malts, licorice flavors, some spiciness in the finish, and very nice, warming ABV that was not strong nor throaty. The beer was liqueur like in its character, with some anise and licorice flavors. This was an exceptional sipping beer, that although strong, was well masked in alcohol content. What a great find. L'Chaim.

Photo of Pencible
4.12/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This poured a bright, clear gold with a bit of off-white head. It smelled like honey wheat, molasses, and sour apple, with a bit of wild yeast and lemon grass. It tasted like honey wheat and rich barley, with a bit of lemon hops and yeast. It was watery with some carbonation, and had a bittersweet aftertaste. Overall this initially seemed very similar to the Eggengerg Dunkel, but the more I deconstructed it, the more differences I found. This was much lighter, especially for a doppelbock. But it was still quite tasty, very clean, and super easy to drink. It had decent body, and hid the alcohol very well. I probably prefer the darkness and complexity of the Dunkel, but this was still a great beer.

Photo of TheMistler
3.16/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Orange / gold in color, clear to maybe slightly hazy. Continuous and effervescent carbonation props up a long lasting, thick film of head in the middle, with a decent ring and good lacing.

A sweet malt nose. Apples and light fruits, crystallized sugar, and some caramel to boot. Maybe some breadiness and very slight alcohol warming. Just... really sweet.

Pear and apple to the taste, which is again sweet. Every note is caramelized. There is some alcohol spice, but not much in the way of warming, probably because it is basically chilled syrup.

Tasty if sipped very slowly, the sweetness can get cloying fast. Not drinkable.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.

Photo of TerryW
2.94/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours clear gold with lots of carbonation. Good-sized head on pouring that quickly disappears becoming just a ring. No lace.

Aroma is immediately noticeable on cracking the bottle and reminds me of a cider. Fruity and boozy.

This carries through to the flavour of the beer. A little too sweet up front, but then fruit and alcohol. Heavy mouth feel. The whole thing is along the lines of a barley wine.

Built for sippin' not for quaffing. Best suited as a slow after dinner beer and consumed as a one off. Passable, but not to my taste.

Photo of steelcutoats
2.74/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Urbock 23

I bought this sweet baby down at The Headkeeper in Greensburg. I saw that it was brewed by the same people that brought me my wonderful Samichlaus so I figured I'd give it a try. I poured an 11.2 oz. bottle into my tasting snifter at just below 40 or so degrees. There was a small white head that disappeared as soon as the bottle was completely emptied. The beer was crystal clear, no sediment in the glass and a ruby-orange color. The aroma was a bit musky, with a fair bit of hops and malt in the background. The taste was pleasant, a bit bitter and very little carbonation. With an alcohol content of 9.6% you can hardly taste the alcohol in it. A good beer overall, will probably recommend it to fellow drinkers in the future.

Photo of RobH
3.35/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle

I very much agree with other posters that this beer all in all fails to live up to prior expectations.

A: Thinking it's a Doppelbock, what you actually get when you pour it is a light colored beer with little head that dissipates quickly to nothing.

S & T: You get a very strong alcohol smell (and not much else) that carries over to dominate the taste profile.

M: The mouth feel is OK in that it's not a watery consistency at all.

Drinkability: I'm neither rushing out to get another one, nor will I be quick to recommend this one. I agree it seems to be incorrectly classified on this an other websites as a Doppelbock, and if anything it should be considered a Helles Bock, or maybe a Euro Strong Lager given the high ABV.

Photo of UGADawgGuy
3.55/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Maybe I need some more education regarding the difference between a bock and a doppelbock...

Appearance: This pours and looks like an English barleywine, as far as I'm concerned. A vigorous pour yields a very short-lived half-finger head, atop a nice-looking dark golden body. This beer is translucent, but a little on the viscous side. Lacing is non-existent.

Smell: Fermented honey. Frankly, that's all I detect.

Taste: Like a suped-up mead, with hints of toasted malt and sorghum. Pretty simple and straightforward, albeit strong.

Mouthfeel: This is where the beer shines. It's thick, heavy, and only mildly carbonated, again reminiscent of a barleywine. My only complaint is a strange absence of tongue/throat coating. I'd kind of like some of that with this beer.

Drinkability: Well, this is a fairly strong brew, so I don't think I could handle more than MAYBE two in a sitting. It's warming and thick enough to discourage a long drinking session. All in all, this urbock is a nice cold-weather beer, but you probably won't want to drink more than one at a time.

Photo of blackie
4/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a: served in what is basically a miniature wine glass, the beer is a light honey-golden in color with a big white head, light retention after the recession

s: sweet pale malt sugars dominate and carry an aroma of baked green apple with a heavy honey sauce, instantly reminiscent of a mead in its honeyed booziness, hops pulpy and herbal/grassy with just a touch of dried lemon peel

m: not quite syrupy, but close, carbonation around medium in level

t: similar in makeup to the aroma, big on the sweet pale grain and honeyed apple flavors, white figs, hops papery and impart a moderate bitterness with some light citrus, appropriately boozy, certainly not to style but I really enjoyed the flavor

d: limited, but a nice sipper

overall: fuck the style constraints, this is much better than a "B" beer in my book, need to pick up a bottle, very nice and quite unique

glass at The Saloon in DC

Photo of joshwlt
3.28/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

This is certainly an interesting and unique beer. I had this beer a week ago so this is a very limited review, however, I remember it being very vinious, lots of fusel alcohol in the smell and taste, wine-like, and especially mead-like... Sweet honey, apple, maybe some balancing spices, a moderately slick mouthfeel, very boozy, and some spices that actually if i remember correclty reminded me of Samichlaus (some sprucey and fig notes)... Not up my alley, something I would like to present to my dad however, who loves meade and avoids beer. The eggenberg doppelbock dunkel was amazing though.

Photo of stulowitz
3.46/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Poured in a clean pilsner glass. No head retention whatsoever! Estery and yeasty aroma, caramel as well. Taste is intense, sort of stingy. It is sweet, very sweet, but thats how it's supposed to be. Too syrupy for my taste. Warm and enjoyable on the way down.

Mouthfeel, like the taste is a bit syrupy. This is a fun sipping beer, although one has to be in a special mood. I can see this pairing well with a desert, like fresh peaches or some other fresh fruit. It is so sweet it is hard to finish one bottle!

This beer, for me, fun as it may be, is not as fulfilling as a trappist tripel og a nice DIPA.

Photo of atis
3.7/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Colour is approximately golden yellow, almost no head and limited lacing. Lots of small carbonation bubbles visible.

Smell is sweet malty, fermented apple juice and some hops. Taste is interesting with strong presence of alcohol, some tangy yeast, hints of nuts. Moves to spicy bittery towards the finish with warming aftertaste. It is smooth, medium mouthfeel and quite high carbonation.

Interesting beer, but I am not sure I would like to drink this one too often.

Photo of CHADMC3
3.45/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a pale orange to golden yellow with a well carbonated, fluffy, white head subsiding to a faint but noticeable lacing.

Abundant honey and alcohol aroma with hints of citrus and just a touch of spice. I sense some years in here as well.

Very sweet fruit, honey, and citrus to follow. The honey presence almost reminds me of a mead, pair it with the slight spiciness and abundant alcohol, and we're getting close.

Sweetness and alcohol presence are the highlights of this beer on the palate, it is very smooth, but with a slight burn.

Looks sure can be deceiving. Eggenberg sure enjoys their high ABV beers. Contrary to other reviews, I thought this was a decent beer, but far from your average doppelbock. A sampling of this one once in a while will do it for me.

Photo of bloberglawp
3.93/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

In a wide straight glass, around 45-50F.

Pours a medium dark yellow, not quite amber. Nice head of foam, and stuck around, beautifull lacing.

Aroma of german malts and a hint of continental hops and alcohol. Flavor of a clean fermented strong ale. Lots of malt, bread and alcohol in the taste.

Quite a dlicious lager, but seems more like a maibock than a dobblebock.

Photo of coldmeat23
3.52/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

GLASS: Pokal Pilsener Glass
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 45 degrees

Golden amber honey color. 2 finger head which fades quickly to a thin layer of foam. Nice retention. Minimal lacing.

(Overripe) apples, pears and peaches. Sweet honeyed biscuits. Light maltiness.

Honey and overripe (white-meat) fruits. Sweet malts. Very slight spicey bite. Slight taste of alcohol, though not as much as expected.

Feels nice, but thin. Too watery. Needs more body. Possibly a bit more carbonation would help also.

Very sweet and somewhat thin, combined with 9.6% ABV, make this one for certain occasions only.

Photo of Lexluthor33
3.34/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours Golden Amber with tiny head and almost no lace.
The aroma is of apples and malts.
The taste is sweet, malts,apples,honey and spicy alcohol hints.
The feel is light for the style,but medium overall. Some oily feel. The alcohol was appearing towards the finish and while the carbonation was low the burn was not.

Notes: The alcohol burn is not the problem here. The lack of carbonation and head is also not the problem. The only thing I guess is off is the taste based on style. That is major.
To me it just did not feel like a Dopplebock,having said that I still made the best of it and enjoyed the fact that it really did not feel like the 9.6 ABV stated on bottle.
Not a bad beer,just off on style.

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Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
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