Urbock 23° - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
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3.93/5 rDev +9.5%
Pours a beautiful clear gold with a smallish white head. smell is not intense, not skunky but this beer has perhaps seen better days. Tastes are not intense, some malty sweetness and a little hop bitterness, some alcohol in the flavors but not too much. Not extremely assertive but very enjoyable. This beer might just as easily be called a maibock. This would session very well if it weren't for the 9.6% abv, otherwise it goes down quite easily.
06-30-2007 01:43:40 | More by kwakwhore
4.38/5 rDev +22%
Appearance - Clear crisp golden color. Not much of a head to speak of, but then again I'm used to that with Eggenberg products. Very fine carbonation feeds a thin head.
Smell - Malty aroma with a slight sweet presence. Very mild with a "lager-type" aroma after I few more wisps catch my nose. I do sense the "heritage" of this beer (i.e. I can't help but think of the Sami when I poured this). The sweetness did come back towards the end.
Taste - Sweet but not an over the top sweetness. Malty body with little to no hop presence. This is gonna catch up on me I can feel it.
Mouthfeel - Rolling it around does produce a bit more of a carbonation presence, however it does not take much away from the overall "goodness". There is a sweetness that (I'm hoping) will age well. I'll need to sample more doppels to compare, but this isn't the same presence that I recall from a celebrator, or even a Paulaner Salvator.
Drinkability - I really enjoyed this "little brother" of a Sami. This is well worth keeping a few in the closet to see how this one will age. I'm sure it will be great in a year or two.
06-07-2007 01:04:50 | More by Nesued
3.3/5 rDev -8.1%
Light gold color with no head. Doesn't look too special. Aroma is OK, has that "European" smell. Light carbonation. Upon tasting you realize that this is not your typical European lager. Starts somewhat sweet, then some heat from the alcohol kicks in. From there, I get a long lasting flavor that eventually fades to a moderate bitterness on the back of my tongue. Very smooth. Yum! Well done stong pale doppelbock. I usually prefer dunkel bocks, but this beer is quite good.
05-28-2007 23:16:18 | More by ohmybock
4.33/5 rDev +20.6%
This is by far the most disproportionate rating I've done. Simply put, I thought this beer was the shiznits. Incredibly warming, luscious, smooth, vanilla and cinnamon characteristics. Super alcoholic kick on the nose. Not a very "heavy" beer for being a bock, but pretty chewy all together.
Maybe this was a golden unicorn batch from Eggenber, but my goodness was it good. I only wish I had one more.
05-21-2007 00:24:21 | More by FLAbeergutinMASS
3.28/5 rDev -8.6%
Urbock 23 is a very transparent light orange-gold, crowned with the faintest hint of white foam that hugs the rim and center of my goblet. Some bubbles cling to the side of the glass. Agitating it produces some short-lived foam, but it dissipates quickly.
I dont get much in the nose, caramel, sweet malts, raisins, and some higher alcohols are present. Not very complex, at least, not yet...
A few sips and Im thinking this is the baby brother to the massive Samichlaus, also made by Schloss Eggenberg. Its got sufficient malt and alcohol, but lacks the syrupy sweetness and insane alcohol notes that Samichlaus is so well known for. Urbock is slightly watery, and has a pronounced medicinal alcohol finish. Some grain notes come through and the finish is dry and slightly metallic. Not a whole heck of a lot here, really
Mouthfeel is finely carbonated and slightly slick. For some reason I get the impression that there is a lot of sugar still lurking in this beer, even though its not super-sweet like its older, badder brother Sami.
Finally, if this is a dopplebock, I dont know what one is. The color is far too light, and the flavor lacks any hint of roasted grains if I had to guess Id say this was an eisbock or a weird alcoholic German lager but not a dopplebock. I'm not sorry I tried it, but this isn't something I'm crazy for.
05-15-2007 03:44:57 | More by kkipple
3.15/5 rDev -12.3%
First of all, this cannot be a doppelbock. From the appearance to the smell to the taste, it screams only Eisbock. While not a good example of either, it is certainly far more eisbock than doppel.
A- Crystal clear light gold with a tight white head that dissipates to a ring in seconds.
S- Sweet malt, caramel, a slight nutty character, alcohol, cane sugar, no hops at all.
T- Malty front with a yeasty, bready center, and an almost fruity finish. Sweet and honey-like, fills your mind with dripping corn syrup and honeycomb. The finish is not overpowering, though... the beer gets lighter as it goes down.
M- Slightly thin for an eisbock(once again, nowhere near a doppel), But with some buttery smooth tinges, and low carbonation.
D- Not as bad as the eku 28... still, I'd like to see you sit down and chug a couple without throwing up from sheer exhaustion.
05-15-2007 01:56:08 | More by khiasmus
3.98/5 rDev +10.9%
Clear copper/gold color with a fast retreating white head.
Aroma had a general highland single malt Scotch quality to it, some caramel, some peppery, spicy, and fruity notes.
Dominating the flavor profile is the somewhat unnatural (but not bad) caramel that seemed to come from too long or too hot of a boil, the alcohol is at first overpowered by the malt, but then it warms up at the finish, there is a honey/straw quality and some real fruitiness, orange zest and baked apples or something along those lines buried beneath the sweetness.
Overall: A medium bodied beer, on the verge of cloying but not quite, rather enjoyable, but there are better things cheaper out there. I generally prefer a darker Doppelbock. Not very complex, but not totally one dimensional. The sweetness is hidng a couple good flavors.
04-30-2007 21:40:16 | More by xymyl
4.22/5 rDev +17.5%
A- Deep gold with only the slightest semblance of a head; it's really more of a perpetual ring of lace than a head. Beautiful color, though.
S- Smells... well, like a strong doppelbock. Lots of bready malt and even a few fruity notes, but lacking the esters of a barleywine (as would be expected). Alcohol is quite prominent as well.
T- Quite sweet to the taste. The malts take on more of a honey character than the bready aroma would suggest. The alcohol and hops combine to give the beer a nice spicy finish, along with a slight bitterness. Delicious!
M- Not a whole lot of carbonation and a little thinner than I was expecting. It's nice and smooth, though, and even a little creamy.
D- Obviously a sipping beer, but definitely drinkable for one with an ABV of nearly 10%.
Very nice beer here! It's certainly not your traditional doppelbock; it's more like a combination of a bock and a barleywine. It's very good, though. Recommended.
04-26-2007 03:25:07 | More by vtfan77
2.85/5 rDev -20.6%
11.2 oz. bottle with just a simple black with gold letters and gold trim oval label. The label is filled with the name of the brewery, the Castle Eggenberg crest, how long they've been around (1681), name of the beer in big letters, contents, ABV %, and a few German words along the inside edge. It has a back label that is also black with gold lettering. That label has the address of the brewery, who imports the beer, refund prices, and the US Government warning. Above these gold letters is a black and white portrait of the brewery at Castle Eggenberg back in the day. The black neck label with the name of the beer in gold letters goes all the way up to the cap and covers it up a bit. No date anywhere on the bottle or label. It's just a plain and simple classy label. No thrills needed. Served in a plain and simple Pilsner glass.
Appearance: Do you know what a Doppelbock looks like? Good, Urbock 23°looks nothing like the other Doppelbocks out there. Instead of pouring a dark brown almost black color, it actually poured a pale gold yellow color. You have to see the head of foam on this one. It easily had a 2 to 2 and a half inch head of white pillowy foam that made me stop pouring the beer because if I hadn't, it would have overflowed the glass. It had excellent retention that left behind a 1 finger head of foam, white rings along the edge of the beer, and plenty of white sticky lace in its tracks. All of this will appear in your glass if the head of foam actually recedes.
Smell: When I was first starting to pop the cap off, a slight aroma of skunk emerged from the bottle. I didn't care for that and I don't know why it was even there because the beer is in a brown bottle. I would check the date, but there isn't one. I'm glad the skunky aroma didn't bother to stick around, but after it drifted away, it then turned into a mild fruity aroma with a hint of toasted malt, and some floral and peppery hops in the background. I wish I could put a finger on the different kinds of fruits that were in this, but the aroma was too light to pick them out. Even without the skunk aroma, it still wasn't that good.
Taste: At least I couldn't taste any skunk in this part of the beer. That would have been a disaster I actually tasted that crap. Urbock 23° taste started off with pepper, a small drop of sweet honey, a few toasted malts, a slice of a juicy fruit (too little to tell what kind of fruit), peppery hops, and floral hops. After those flavors have passed, out comes a voluminous taste of alcohol. This alcohol taste went straight up to my nostrils where I could it feel it burning my nose. The alcohol later calmed down a bit, but still that initial hit of alcohol was too much. I also think that it relied too much on the alcohol to compensate with what little flavors it had.
Mouthfeel: It was strongly full bodied with nothing but an alcohol aftertaste at first, but it later calmed down to be medium bodied with a slight short lived aftertaste of sweet honey and alcohol soaked juicy fruits. I could feel the alcohol go to work on me, but after it mellowed down a bit, I could barely feel it.
Drinkability: Eggenberg quoted on saying that "on occasion this beer has been called the 'Cognac of beers'." Is it that good? I don't think so. It had the taste of alcohol that a Cognac might have, but not the flavor density that a good Cognac might have. For the price of $3 for a 11.2 oz. bottle, one is more than enough for me. If you like your Doppelbocks to be heavy in alcohol flavor and not much of anything else, then pick this one up. You might enjoy more than I did.
04-23-2007 19:48:45 | More by AltBock
3.8/5 rDev +5.8%
Pours an orangey-peach color with a minimal white head. Head quickly dissipates to nothing; no lacing. There is a lot of fine bubbles, however.
A pleasant, refined, strong aroma of pale malty sweetness, paired with fruits (apple, pear, banana) and a slight alcholic note.
Initially a sweet taste, once again with fruit flavors, followed by an alcohol spice and hop bitterness in the finish. Well balanced, but not what's expected for a doppelbock - I was thinking this was more of a maibock. I found the taste to be quite pleasant.
Medium bodied, with a zest provided by the bubbly carbonation which belies the weak head. Definitely warming, and not all too drinkable due to the presence of the alcohol.
A surprising beer, and surprisingly good.
04-18-2007 14:50:48 | More by jmc44
4.35/5 rDev +21.2%
Pours a champagne-peach color. Bright and bubbly. Very little head which thins out rather fast. Even in dim light, this beer really shines. I've gotten so used to dopplebocks appearing darker in color, this is a real treat. Nice malty aroma, with notes of clove, banana, and pear. I get a faint leathery scent here too. A very rich but smooth bouquet all around. The taste is also rich and smooth. There is some muted apple and pear flavor up front with a wood-flavored maltiness in the middle. Finishes almost with hopped-up licorice flavor. What a beer! Mouthfeel is silky smooth and fantastic. Were it not for the fact that this badboy really packs a punch, I could easily drain 3 or 4 of these in a sitting. Maybe more. The high alcohol is well-masked by the complex malts and spices herein. A treat for any fan of the dopplebock.
04-12-2007 01:09:00 | More by Atlas1
3.2/5 rDev -10.9%
This bottle has been in my beer cellar for some time; at least a year. No bottling date on the label that I could find.
Pretty bright gold color with fluffy white head. Aroma mostly of alcohol and malt.
Taste was kind of harsh. I expected a bit of alcohol bite but this was way to sharp plus had a bitter hop edge that was not to style. I'm thinking this beer was stale but not really skunky.
Good body as it should be for a big beer. Not very drinkable considering the defects in the taste.
I prefer big beers but this one was flawed. However, I may try another bottle in hopes of finding something fresher.
04-01-2007 12:53:48 | More by joedon
3.65/5 rDev +1.7%
Pours a clear golden-copper color; much paler than expected for a dopplebock. Produces a paper-thin off white head which fades immediately to just a few small smears of foam. Aroma is dominated here a bit too strongly by the alcohol with fainter notes of ripe pear, apple, apricot, banana, spice and light malts struggling to make their presence known. Overall the aroma is clean and sweet. Mouthfeel reveals a smooth, slightly oily and sticky texture with a pleasant,fine carbonation. Flavor profile starts out quite sweet and fruity with notes of honey, pear, green apple, caramel candy and a Grape-Nut cereal maltiness. This initial sweetness is quickly interupted by a moderately hot alcohol blast followed immediately by a somewhat surprising hefty hop bitterness. Would have preferred a slightly sweeter finish on this one. The hoppy bitter finish seemed a bit harsh and heavy-handed; kind of unusual for the style. In summary a decent Dopplebock, but not very interesting or complex. Wouldnt go out of my way for another one.
02-04-2007 05:25:14 | More by macster
2.08/5 rDev -42.1%
A - There is only the slightest haze in this rich deep golden brew. A small half finger head that dissipates to nothingness in minutes. No lacing and lots of visible carbonation.
S - Smells like a concentrated pilsner malt with a slightly stronger clean yeast and grassy aroma. A very faint caramel as well.
T - A light bodied maltiness that extremely potent and sweet. There is a bit of a grassy hops typical of a pilsner. The aftertaste is slightly bitter. Cloying and leaves something desired.
M - Harsh from carbonation, thin, yet coats the mouth a bit. There is a bit of refreshment about it, but it is too sweet for any real accomplishment there.
D - Not awful. The flavor is a bit too sweet to be drinkable, but the potent hops help to subside that problem. Would go well with foods. I don't know about the classifcation of this brew as a doppelbock. Seems more like a Maibock to me.
01-01-2007 21:32:26 | More by mrasskicktastic
3.03/5 rDev -15.6%
A surprisingly pale golden color for a doppelbock. Small whitish head that did not linger.
Aromas were minimal, particularly in comparison to the typical doppelbock. A hint of apple schnaps (an appley/alcohol smell), but highly subdued.
Clean malty sweetness up front, but balanced by a distinct hop bitterness. Maybe some diacetyl. A balanced beer, but lacking the complex malt flavors associated with the style (at least by me).
Medium body and surprisingly tangy carbonation given the wimpy head. Creamy and smooth midmouth, but then transitioning to a gentle alcohol warming followed some slickness and tingling late.
Overall a clean lager, but not very exciting beyond the shocking ABV for such a pale, relatively subdued beer. Fairly drinkable, but not a session beer for me due to the ABV, high cost, and lack of complex flavors.
12-30-2006 02:51:09 | More by mpyle
2.6/5 rDev -27.6%
Crisp, clear, and golden with a very small amount of lacing. It has a very nice lacing as well. The smell is light and more of a straight lager smell than a doppelbock. Tastes like a regular lager too, but with a big kick of alcohol. It feels pretty bad on the palate. I don't think I would ever have this beer again, mostly because it didn't taste like a doppelbock and it was high in alcohol enough to damage the taste.
12-28-2006 14:09:40 | More by Erdinger2003
3.35/5 rDev -6.7%
There wasnt much to the beer in terms of aroma. There were hints of fruit and mild spice. The alcohol was also present, but not enough to be concerned over. I remember thinking that it smelled like an average pilsner.
Despite the black label and dark nature of the bottles design, the beer poured a clear, golden amber. The head was a full quarter inch and cream in color. The fullness didnt last long as it faded to a thin film.
The first swallow was decidedly hot. I was taken aback a little bit at the fullness of the alcohol on my palette. I have had stronger beers that didnt taste quite this strong before. It could be due to the sweetness of the beer. The honey flavor was a bit of a surprise as well and gives the beer a bit of an oily or syrupy feel in the mouth. Its not thick by any means, though.
The Urbock 23° is a tasty brew and its low carbonation level gives it a smooth texture as it warms. I can say that the alcohol crept up on me rather quickly. I was not expecting it to hit quite as hard as it did.
12-20-2006 14:10:07 | More by reh3
2.9/5 rDev -19.2%
A clean golden yellow beer. Has a large bubbly white head. A distinct sweet corn aroma rises from the glass with an equally distinct alcohol character in the background. Hints of malty cereal grain in the taste are overpowered the the strong alcohol presence. Just a light hint of bitterness on the finish.
12-12-2006 00:44:38 | More by ybnorml
2.35/5 rDev -34.5%
Poured into chalice at 50 degrees. beer was a strange yellow brown with yeast I guess floating around. Beer was strong tasting of fruit like a wine and strong alc. taste. good head at first. I would inagine if you liked Abbey type ales tremendously you would like this, and I like some Abbey's but this beer will not be purchased by me again and it went down the drain.
12-09-2006 16:39:22 | More by Minkybut
4.03/5 rDev +12.3%
Nicely poured to a crisp golden amber, little to no head, most likely do to the alcohol.
Aroma of caramel, green apple tinge, with a malt sweetness
Flavor rolls up with smooth malt sweetness, caramel, peppery aftertone, and spicy. With a green apple, apparent as warming.
Mouth feel is low carbonation, smooth, crisp, moderate body.
Overall a nice delicious, flavorful brew.
12-04-2006 06:38:42 | More by amatuerbeerguy
4.65/5 rDev +29.5%
Poured in a goblet glass. I didn't have any head to speak of and the color is
a dark yellowish, and there are white fragments floating inside. I'm not good at describing a certain ingredient when I smell but I can tell you that it smells comparable to a belgian tripel style beer. I can smell the alcohol in this beer and the taste of it as well. It has a very nice taste though. It will be too strong for those you like a lighter beer.
11-14-2006 04:10:37 | More by basscram
3.95/5 rDev +10%
Pours a brilliant reddish gold aged amber color with very few bubbles. One-finger head of small white bubbles fades quickly to a thin sheet and no lacing. Nose of mild, sweet malt, and a banana yeast scent. Nose is fairly subtle and simple. Taste is initially sweetish malt but well balanced to yield a mellow flavor; nice warm alcohol burn toward the middle, and a mildly nutty, softly bitter finish. Mouth is moderately viscous on the thin side of syrupy. Very smooth, almost silky mouth. Drinkability is very good, but watch the high ABV.
Overall: An excellent dopplebock. I cant help but compare this to Samiclaus, and I feel that Samiclaus is a better tasting and more complex, yet quite similar brew. Definitely recommended.
10-23-2006 23:32:18 | More by jettjon
3.75/5 rDev +4.5%
Pours a clear golden straw color with a small white head that fades. Speckled lacing on the glass. An odd color for a dopplebock.
Smells sweet and caramel malty with a rather pronounced booziness to it.
Tastes sweet and caramel malty upfront leading into just the faintest hint of hops before finishing with more malty sweetness and a warming booziness at the very end.
Big body, light carbonation.
It tastes much more like a dopplebock than it looks, although it's a bit more of a brute than othes of this style. Even so, it's still quite drinkable although the ABV is a bit prohibitive.
10-18-2006 02:40:17 | More by MaltyGoodness
2.3/5 rDev -35.9%
Pours a beautiful golden color with a pure white head that died immediately.
Some alcohol and light fruits in the aroma.
The taste is just pure alcohol and sugar. I honestly can't find anything special about the flavor. Hopefully it's just this bottle and the next will be better.
Unless the second bottle is better I won't be buying this beer again.
10-04-2006 04:29:15 | More by SuperSpy
4.13/5 rDev +15%
Appearance: Pours a very clear thick looking orange golden color with a short lived head of whitish foam. The head was gone within no time and ended up as a small ring around the top of the beer where it meets the glass.
Aroma: The aroma is pretty fruity with apricots and peaches in particular. I also get a white grape influence that gives it a bit of a winey edge. There is noticeable alcohol in the nose adding a peppery note. As I swirl the beer in the glass, the alcohol becomes even more noticeable, but at the same time I get a dry edge like it may be from oxidation. There really isn't any hops noticeable.
Taste: The flavor is really malt driven and gives you a sweet impression right away. There is a syrupiness to this beer that is somewhat disguised by the alcohol's spicy presence. I think that the spice in this beer is from the alcohol more than the hops. There is a honey-like impression that makes this beer come across the palate as being pretty darn heavy. The alcohol is a big player in this beer, and leads the profile of the finish along with the residual sweetness. The malt and hop and alcohol give a bit more of an orange or tangerine impression as the beer warms a bit. The finish is sweet with plenty of malt to linger for quite some time and does a fair job of masking the inevitable alcoholic burn.
Opinion: This is a pretty darn good beer, but oh man it is huge for the style. There is something about a Lager that is this big that makes it so much more intimidating than an equal strength Ale. You can really taste the alcohol in this one. I wouldn't recommend this beer be your first impression of a DoppelBock, but I would recommend that you try it once you think you know what a DoppelBock is. This is no Salvator by any means. I would highly recommend this beer. It is an adventure for the palate.
10-03-2006 02:57:58 | More by SkeeterHawk
Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
81 out of 100 based on 385 ratings.